Re: Question about sites using Ajax
Have you tried mathjax.org On Apr 22, 2012, at 10:53 AM, Keith Watson wrote: Sorry, all the sites I frequent use Comet. On Apr 21, 2012, at 8:22 PM, Scott Howell wrote: All, Has anyone encountered problems accessing sites using ajax? I cannot think of a site immediately that heavily uses ajax. If you know of one I can try VO out with, please let me know. This is a slightly urgent request. Thanks, -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Question about sites using Ajax
The main issue with Ajax is that updates to the page are not noticed by the screen reader unless the developer moves focus to the changed content or sets a live region attribute on the container. This isn't something mere users can fix other than setting a hotspot on the area so changes can be noticed. Another snag is when a part of the page is 'rotating content' where they tick through some stuff like top news stories or the like. This can be quite disorienting if you're in the middle of reading and focus suddenly gets yanked to the next story because things ticked. Usually there is a pause button which stops the ticking, but not always. CB On 4/21/12 8:22 PM, Scott Howell wrote: All, Has anyone encountered problems accessing sites using ajax? I cannot think of a site immediately that heavily uses ajax. If you know of one I can try VO out with, please let me know. This is a slightly urgent request. Thanks, -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Question about sites using Ajax
Comet has the same issues as Ajax, just that the connection is kept open for real-time data such as live chat widgets and the like. The w3c is working on a standard for doing this called Real Time Communications: http://www.w3.org/2011/04/webrtc/wiki/Main_Page so the Comet hackery won't be needed anymore, but not sure when that will be available in actual browsers. CB On 4/22/12 10:53 AM, Keith Watson wrote: Sorry, all the sites I frequent use Comet. On Apr 21, 2012, at 8:22 PM, Scott Howell wrote: All, Has anyone encountered problems accessing sites using ajax? I cannot think of a site immediately that heavily uses ajax. If you know of one I can try VO out with, please let me know. This is a slightly urgent request. Thanks, -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Question about sites using Ajax
Larry, THank you for sharing this site. I was able to try some of the areas out with great success. Got any that use Java that would be fun to try? Java apps are not so great running on the Mac, but I can't recall how Java apps that are web-based behave. On Apr 23, 2012, at 10:34 AM, Larry Skutchan wrote: Have you tried mathjax.org On Apr 22, 2012, at 10:53 AM, Keith Watson wrote: Sorry, all the sites I frequent use Comet. On Apr 21, 2012, at 8:22 PM, Scott Howell wrote: All, Has anyone encountered problems accessing sites using ajax? I cannot think of a site immediately that heavily uses ajax. If you know of one I can try VO out with, please let me know. This is a slightly urgent request. Thanks, -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Question about sites using Ajax
THanks this is the info I was looking for. So, generally it is not as bad as being completely inaccessible, but perhaps annoying. :) Although most of the web is annoying anymore, so can't be all that bad. :) Thanks for the feedback. On Apr 23, 2012, at 12:14 PM, Chris Blouch wrote: The main issue with Ajax is that updates to the page are not noticed by the screen reader unless the developer moves focus to the changed content or sets a live region attribute on the container. This isn't something mere users can fix other than setting a hotspot on the area so changes can be noticed. Another snag is when a part of the page is 'rotating content' where they tick through some stuff like top news stories or the like. This can be quite disorienting if you're in the middle of reading and focus suddenly gets yanked to the next story because things ticked. Usually there is a pause button which stops the ticking, but not always. CB On 4/21/12 8:22 PM, Scott Howell wrote: All, Has anyone encountered problems accessing sites using ajax? I cannot think of a site immediately that heavily uses ajax. If you know of one I can try VO out with, please let me know. This is a slightly urgent request. Thanks, -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Question about sites using Ajax
Sorry, all the sites I frequent use Comet. On Apr 21, 2012, at 8:22 PM, Scott Howell wrote: All, Has anyone encountered problems accessing sites using ajax? I cannot think of a site immediately that heavily uses ajax. If you know of one I can try VO out with, please let me know. This is a slightly urgent request. Thanks, -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Question about sites using Ajax
Well a response to that would be inappropriate for the list, so we'll be talking about your filthy sites at a later date. :) On Apr 22, 2012, at 10:53 AM, Keith Watson wrote: Sorry, all the sites I frequent use Comet. On Apr 21, 2012, at 8:22 PM, Scott Howell wrote: All, Has anyone encountered problems accessing sites using ajax? I cannot think of a site immediately that heavily uses ajax. If you know of one I can try VO out with, please let me know. This is a slightly urgent request. Thanks, -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
