Re: Snow Leopard pre-order

2009-08-03 Thread Mike Arrigo

Yes, unlike windows, you will be able to install without sighted help.  
I plan on doing a complete install as a pod cast when I get mine, but  
in a nutshell, you start up the mac and hold the c key to boot from  
the optical drive. Once the dvd is booted, press command f5 to start  
voice over in the usual way. From there, everything is spoken.
On Aug 3, 2009, at 10:39 AM, rayna424 wrote:


 Hi all,

 I just received an email from amazon telling me I can pre-order Snow
 Leopard for $29. I didn't know we were so close to getting it! I am
 going to pre-order, and I have a question.

 I haven't upgraded an OS yet. Is this  something I will be able to do
 on my own? How does it work? When I go to install, will VO work to
 tell me what is happening? Any pointers from those who have done an
 upgrade will be greatly appreciated!
 Thanks,
 Rayna
 


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Re: Snow Leopard pre-order

2009-08-03 Thread Dan

Hello,
Just a little thing to remember. After booting from the Install DVD,  
make sure you wait till the drive stops before you press Command Shift  
F5 or Command FN F5 to start VoiceOver.
At least, this is the way you currently do it under Leopard and it was  
the way it worked under Tiger.

On Aug 3, 2009, at 4:17 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote:


 Yes, unlike windows, you will be able to install without sighted help.
 I plan on doing a complete install as a pod cast when I get mine, but
 in a nutshell, you start up the mac and hold the c key to boot from
 the optical drive. Once the dvd is booted, press command f5 to start
 voice over in the usual way. From there, everything is spoken.
 On Aug 3, 2009, at 10:39 AM, rayna424 wrote:


 Hi all,

 I just received an email from amazon telling me I can pre-order Snow
 Leopard for $29. I didn't know we were so close to getting it! I am
 going to pre-order, and I have a question.

 I haven't upgraded an OS yet. Is this  something I will be able to do
 on my own? How does it work? When I go to install, will VO work to
 tell me what is happening? Any pointers from those who have done an
 upgrade will be greatly appreciated!
 Thanks,
 Rayna



 


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Re: Snow Leopard pre-order

2009-08-03 Thread Kieren


On Aug 4, 7:38 am, rayna424 rayna...@gmail.com wrote:
 So I don't just insert the cd with the macbook on?

Yes you can do exactly that.  once the dvd is inserted and mounted it
will open a window
which has an icon install OS X open this and you will be asked for
your
administrators password.  Enter it and hit ok and your mac will
restart and boot from
the dvd without user intervention.

Just a quick note on the install side of things too.
You can reduce the size of the install by not installing printer
drivers you dont have and
also languages you dont need as well.

this is an options button (i forget where in the process ) I think
just before or during the choice of install location.

HTH

Kieren
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Re: Snow Leopard pre-order

2009-08-03 Thread rayna424

Ok yes, that helps. I think I understand about holding down C, but
didn't know why it couldn't be done just like any other program. In
doing this, does VO work the whole time then? I think I did actually
upgrade a Windows machine once, and when I did that I just inserted
the cd. I had forgotten about that. I know I know, forget everything I
knew about Windows though ;)


Thanks all! Are you all planning to upgrade immediately, or do you
wait to see how it works out?

Kieren wrote:
 On Aug 4, 7:38 am, rayna424 rayna...@gmail.com wrote:
  So I don't just insert the cd with the macbook on?

 Yes you can do exactly that.  once the dvd is inserted and mounted it
 will open a window
 which has an icon install OS X open this and you will be asked for
 your
 administrators password.  Enter it and hit ok and your mac will
 restart and boot from
 the dvd without user intervention.

 Just a quick note on the install side of things too.
 You can reduce the size of the install by not installing printer
 drivers you dont have and
 also languages you dont need as well.

 this is an options button (i forget where in the process ) I think
 just before or during the choice of install location.

 HTH

 Kieren
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Re: Snow Leopard pre-order

2009-08-03 Thread Scott Howell

And in addition you can go to System Preferences and choose Startup  
Disk and select the DVD as the boot disc.  So you have three options  
for getting the system started.  Also, the overall install is smaller  
and you can further customize by not installing the different  
languages you don't need, but they don't take up much space either.  I  
believe I read that not all printer drivers are installed either, so  
you  can choose what you need.
On Aug 3, 2009, at 8:13 PM, Kieren wrote:



 On Aug 4, 7:38 am, rayna424 rayna...@gmail.com wrote:
 So I don't just insert the cd with the macbook on?

 Yes you can do exactly that.  once the dvd is inserted and mounted it
 will open a window
 which has an icon install OS X open this and you will be asked for
 your
 administrators password.  Enter it and hit ok and your mac will
 restart and boot from
 the dvd without user intervention.

 Just a quick note on the install side of things too.
 You can reduce the size of the install by not installing printer
 drivers you dont have and
 also languages you dont need as well.

 this is an options button (i forget where in the process ) I think
 just before or during the choice of install location.

 HTH

 Kieren
 


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Re: Snow Leopard pre-order

2009-08-03 Thread Dan

Hello,
No matter which way you run the DVD, you still have to manually start  
VO after the OS boots.
On Aug 3, 2009, at 5:33 PM, rayna424 wrote:


 Ok yes, that helps. I think I understand about holding down C, but
 didn't know why it couldn't be done just like any other program. In
 doing this, does VO work the whole time then? I think I did actually
 upgrade a Windows machine once, and when I did that I just inserted
 the cd. I had forgotten about that. I know I know, forget everything I
 knew about Windows though ;)


 Thanks all! Are you all planning to upgrade immediately, or do you
 wait to see how it works out?

 Kieren wrote:
 On Aug 4, 7:38 am, rayna424 rayna...@gmail.com wrote:
 So I don't just insert the cd with the macbook on?

 Yes you can do exactly that.  once the dvd is inserted and mounted it
 will open a window
 which has an icon install OS X open this and you will be asked for
 your
 administrators password.  Enter it and hit ok and your mac will
 restart and boot from
 the dvd without user intervention.

 Just a quick note on the install side of things too.
 You can reduce the size of the install by not installing printer
 drivers you dont have and
 also languages you dont need as well.

 this is an options button (i forget where in the process ) I think
 just before or during the choice of install location.

 HTH

 Kieren
 


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Re: Snow Leopard pre-order

2009-08-03 Thread rayna424

Gotcha, so whichever option I pick, I wait until the dvd stops
spinning, and turn on VO. Then I can go through the setup with VO.
Sweet, I think I got it!

Thanks everyone!

Dan wrote:
 Hello,
 No matter which way you run the DVD, you still have to manually start
 VO after the OS boots.
 On Aug 3, 2009, at 5:33 PM, rayna424 wrote:

 
  Ok yes, that helps. I think I understand about holding down C, but
  didn't know why it couldn't be done just like any other program. In
  doing this, does VO work the whole time then? I think I did actually
  upgrade a Windows machine once, and when I did that I just inserted
  the cd. I had forgotten about that. I know I know, forget everything I
  knew about Windows though ;)
 
 
  Thanks all! Are you all planning to upgrade immediately, or do you
  wait to see how it works out?
 
  Kieren wrote:
  On Aug 4, 7:38 am, rayna424 rayna...@gmail.com wrote:
  So I don't just insert the cd with the macbook on?
 
  Yes you can do exactly that.  once the dvd is inserted and mounted it
  will open a window
  which has an icon install OS X open this and you will be asked for
  your
  administrators password.  Enter it and hit ok and your mac will
  restart and boot from
  the dvd without user intervention.
 
  Just a quick note on the install side of things too.
  You can reduce the size of the install by not installing printer
  drivers you dont have and
  also languages you dont need as well.
 
  this is an options button (i forget where in the process ) I think
  just before or during the choice of install location.
 
  HTH
 
  Kieren
  
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