Re: The best way of saving and editing documents with the new pages on the mac
Hi Daniel, Just another opinion. Far less mac connected, but very much document sharing connected. Because ms office tends to hold a grudge with some of its other editions, not so much as sitting at the same table with them, I often suggest two things. First, if you can, ask the source what they desire. i cannot tell you the countless times I had an associate still using a technically older, but much nicer edition of word in their office. but s they did not want to seem behind the times. second, experiment with sending .rtf instead. tends to work not just for office users but for those using open office, or wordperfect, or any of the various programs on the buffet. that format exists specifically for this reason largely to let you share no matter the preferences desires or frustrations of those getting your work. Just some thoughts, Kare On Tue, 1 Jul 2014, Tim Kilburn wrote: Hi Daniel, For your first question, I have two responses. If you are two people using Pages in the first place, why bother putting the document into Word prior to the final product. I suggest you leave it in Pages. Now, my second answer to the first question is not exactly. Since Pages easily opens Word documents, you can either set your Mac so that Word documents automatically open in Pages, use the Open With option in the Contextual menu or open it directly from within Pages. After opened, you can edit and export to Word. For your second question, I would 99 times out of 100 save it to the .docx format as it is the current standard. When using the .doc extension, it's being saved in an earlier format and you're causing things to be unnecessarily converted an extra time. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Jul 1, 2014, at 7:25 AM, Daniel McGee wrote: Hello David and Anne, thank you both for explaining to me how Pages works when dealing with word documents. I pretty much thought this would be the case when Tim told me too. However, I'm glad I posted again to get more than one opinion. I'd just like to ask another question which I'm sure I already know the answer to but I'll ask anyway just to clarify. When one receives a word document, say as an email attachment and the recipient wants to make changes to it, does he or she saves the doc as pages format and once there done, export the changed document back into word from saving in pages native format and sends it back to them. A bit long winded at explaining it but I hope it makes sense. One last question if I may and this one is certainly easier than the last. Basically, when exporting Pages into word documents which file format would you recommend now between .doc or .docx I know that .doc is a lot older now, I've been saving as that for as long as I can remember purely for compatibility sakes between systems that may still have the older office version around. I really appreciate all your help and advice with this. It has made it a lot easier to accept and just I guess accept, how Pages works. I will get use to it. I just needed that more than one opinion. Daniel On 1 Jul 2014, at 07:48, Anne Robertson wrote: Hello Daniel, What you need to understand is that Pages is an Apple proprietory format and it is just a concession to the fact that many people need to share files with MS Office users that we can save in Word format. So, no, you can never set Pages to save automatically in Word format and it will never happen. Perhaps one day Office for Mac will become accessible, but until then, you'll just have to do what everyone else does and export to Word when you've finished working on a document you wish to share with non-Mac users. I hope this is clear, but I'm sure Tim Kilburn already explained this to you. Cheers, Anne On 30 Jun 2014, at 22:52, Daniel McGee wrote: Hello isaac, yeah I do all that, what you have detailed but when I next come to open the newly saved document, make some edits and then hit CMD S to save. It will pop up a dialog box forcing me to save it in a dot pages format. I just don't get why Pages won't continue saving the file into word once I've created the exported word doc file. So does it continue saving into word, once you've exported it into that file format because it simply doesn't for me. It stubbenly wants me to save in its own format which to me kinds of defeats the purpose of word documents. Either its me or I'm not getting it. :( Daniel , On 30 Jun 2014, at 21:10, isaac wrote: If you want to save it as a word document you will have to go to the file menu. Next go to export submenu. Next choose word. After that you should be able to press command s to save it. isaac isaac.heb...@gmail.com Skype gold_wildcat On Jun 30, 2014, at 1:54 PM, Daniel McGee wrote: Hi all, I only got one answer to this question below from this list. Unless its just simply no one uses the app or I made an error in trying to get across what I want to achieve, I h
Re: The best way of saving and editing documents with the new pages on the mac
Hi Daniel, For your first question, I have two responses. If you are two people using Pages in the first place, why bother putting the document into Word prior to the final product. I suggest you leave it in Pages. Now, my second answer to the first question is not exactly. Since Pages easily opens Word documents, you can either set your Mac so that Word documents automatically open in Pages, use the Open With option in the Contextual menu or open it directly from within Pages. After opened, you can edit and export to Word. For your second question, I would 99 times out of 100 save it to the .docx format as it is the current standard. When using the .doc extension, it's being saved in an earlier format and you're causing things to be unnecessarily converted an extra time. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Jul 1, 2014, at 7:25 AM, Daniel McGee wrote: > Hello David and Anne, thank you both for explaining to me how Pages works > when dealing with word documents. I pretty much thought this would be the > case when Tim told me too. However, I'm glad I posted again to get more than > one opinion. > > I'd just like to ask another question which I'm sure I already know the > answer to but I'll ask anyway just to clarify. > > When one receives a word document, say as an email attachment and the > recipient wants to make changes to it, does he or she saves the doc as pages > format and once there done, export the changed document back into word from > saving in pages native format and sends it back to them. > > A bit long winded at explaining it but I hope it makes sense. > > One last question if I may and this one is certainly easier than the last. > > Basically, when exporting Pages into word documents which file format would > you recommend now between .doc or .docx > > I know that .doc is a lot older now, I've been saving as that for as long as > I can remember purely for compatibility sakes between systems that may still > have the older office version around. > > I really appreciate all your help and advice with this. It has made it a lot > easier to accept and just I guess accept, how Pages works. I will get use to > it. I just needed that more than one opinion. > > Daniel > On 1 Jul 2014, at 07:48, Anne Robertson wrote: > >> Hello Daniel, >> >> What you need to understand is that Pages is an Apple proprietory format and >> it is just a concession to the fact that many people need to share files >> with MS Office users that we can save in Word format. So, no, you can never >> set Pages to save automatically in Word format and it will never happen. >> Perhaps one day Office for Mac will become accessible, but until then, >> you'll just have to do what everyone else does and export to Word when >> you've finished working on a document you wish to share with non-Mac users. >> >> I hope this is clear, but I'm sure Tim Kilburn already explained this to you. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Anne >> >> >> On 30 Jun 2014, at 22:52, Daniel McGee wrote: >> >>> Hello isaac, yeah I do all that, what you have detailed but when I next >>> come to open the newly saved document, make some edits and then hit CMD S >>> to save. It will pop up a dialog box forcing me to save it in a dot pages >>> format. I just don't get why Pages won't continue saving the file into word >>> once I've created the exported word doc file. >>> >>> So does it continue saving into word, once you've exported it into that >>> file format because it simply doesn't for me. It stubbenly wants me to >>> save in its own format which to me kinds of defeats the purpose of word >>> documents. Either its me or I'm not getting it. :( >>> >>> Daniel , >>> On 30 Jun 2014, at 21:10, isaac wrote: >>> If you want to save it as a word document you will have to go to the file menu. Next go to export submenu. Next choose word. After that you should be able to press command s to save it. isaac isaac.heb...@gmail.com Skype gold_wildcat On Jun 30, 2014, at 1:54 PM, Daniel McGee wrote: > Hi all, I only got one answer to this question below from this list. > Unless its just simply no one uses the app or I made an error in trying > to get across what I want to achieve, I have made an attempt at > rephrasing my question in the hope its more clear and will generate more > responses. If not, then I'm not offended or anything like that. So here' > it goes. > > Hello all, I want to start trying the newly released Pages that Apple > released last year for the Mac. > Currently, my version of the app stands at 5.2 just so you know what I'm > working with. > > What I would particularly like your advice with, is how do you, as the > user, go about saving and editing your documents. > > I am trying to save my documents in word format. However, when I come to > op
Re: The best way of saving and editing documents with the new pages on the mac
Hello David and Anne, thank you both for explaining to me how Pages works when dealing with word documents. I pretty much thought this would be the case when Tim told me too. However, I'm glad I posted again to get more than one opinion. I'd just like to ask another question which I'm sure I already know the answer to but I'll ask anyway just to clarify. When one receives a word document, say as an email attachment and the recipient wants to make changes to it, does he or she saves the doc as pages format and once there done, export the changed document back into word from saving in pages native format and sends it back to them. A bit long winded at explaining it but I hope it makes sense. One last question if I may and this one is certainly easier than the last. Basically, when exporting Pages into word documents which file format would you recommend now between .doc or .docx I know that .doc is a lot older now, I've been saving as that for as long as I can remember purely for compatibility sakes between systems that may still have the older office version around. I really appreciate all your help and advice with this. It has made it a lot easier to accept and just I guess accept, how Pages works. I will get use to it. I just needed that more than one opinion. Daniel On 1 Jul 2014, at 07:48, Anne Robertson wrote: > Hello Daniel, > > What you need to understand is that Pages is an Apple proprietory format and > it is just a concession to the fact that many people need to share files with > MS Office users that we can save in Word format. So, no, you can never set > Pages to save automatically in Word format and it will never happen. Perhaps > one day Office for Mac will become accessible, but until then, you'll just > have to do what everyone else does and export to Word when you've finished > working on a document you wish to share with non-Mac users. > > I hope this is clear, but I'm sure Tim Kilburn already explained this to you. > > Cheers, > > Anne > > > On 30 Jun 2014, at 22:52, Daniel McGee wrote: > >> Hello isaac, yeah I do all that, what you have detailed but when I next come >> to open the newly saved document, make some edits and then hit CMD S to >> save. It will pop up a dialog box forcing me to save it in a dot pages >> format. I just don't get why Pages won't continue saving the file into word >> once I've created the exported word doc file. >> >> So does it continue saving into word, once you've exported it into that file >> format because it simply doesn't for me. It stubbenly wants me to save in >> its own format which to me kinds of defeats the purpose of word documents. >> Either its me or I'm not getting it. :( >> >> Daniel , >> On 30 Jun 2014, at 21:10, isaac wrote: >> >>> If you want to save it as a word document you will have to go to the file >>> menu. >>> Next go to export submenu. >>> Next choose word. >>> After that you should be able to press command s to save it. >>> isaac >>> isaac.heb...@gmail.com >>> Skype gold_wildcat >>> >>> On Jun 30, 2014, at 1:54 PM, Daniel McGee >>> wrote: >>> Hi all, I only got one answer to this question below from this list. Unless its just simply no one uses the app or I made an error in trying to get across what I want to achieve, I have made an attempt at rephrasing my question in the hope its more clear and will generate more responses. If not, then I'm not offended or anything like that. So here' it goes. Hello all, I want to start trying the newly released Pages that Apple released last year for the Mac. Currently, my version of the app stands at 5.2 just so you know what I'm working with. What I would particularly like your advice with, is how do you, as the user, go about saving and editing your documents. I am trying to save my documents in word format. However, when I come to open it again and do some more editing with the document and Command S to save it again, it doesn't apply the save. I get a dialog box asking me to save it again. As if I were performing the function, of save as the 2nd time. which isn't what I want it to do. I just want to save the changes as I would continue working with the document. Idealy, I'd like to Save in a format which goes between Mac and Windows hence as saving as Word to preserve compatibility between the two systems. So, any tips or advice from those who use the new pages on the Mac, in regards to saving as word documents would be vastly appreciated! Thank you. Daniel -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to ma
Re: The best way of saving and editing documents with the new pages on the mac
Hello Daniel, What you need to understand is that Pages is an Apple proprietory format and it is just a concession to the fact that many people need to share files with MS Office users that we can save in Word format. So, no, you can never set Pages to save automatically in Word format and it will never happen. Perhaps one day Office for Mac will become accessible, but until then, you'll just have to do what everyone else does and export to Word when you've finished working on a document you wish to share with non-Mac users. I hope this is clear, but I'm sure Tim Kilburn already explained this to you. Cheers, Anne On 30 Jun 2014, at 22:52, Daniel McGee wrote: > Hello isaac, yeah I do all that, what you have detailed but when I next come > to open the newly saved document, make some edits and then hit CMD S to save. > It will pop up a dialog box forcing me to save it in a dot pages format. I > just don't get why Pages won't continue saving the file into word once I've > created the exported word doc file. > > So does it continue saving into word, once you've exported it into that file > format because it simply doesn't for me. It stubbenly wants me to save in > its own format which to me kinds of defeats the purpose of word documents. > Either its me or I'm not getting it. :( > > Daniel , > On 30 Jun 2014, at 21:10, isaac wrote: > >> If you want to save it as a word document you will have to go to the file >> menu. >> Next go to export submenu. >> Next choose word. >> After that you should be able to press command s to save it. >> isaac >> isaac.heb...@gmail.com >> Skype gold_wildcat >> >> On Jun 30, 2014, at 1:54 PM, Daniel McGee >> wrote: >> >>> Hi all, I only got one answer to this question below from this list. Unless >>> its just simply no one uses the app or I made an error in trying to get >>> across what I want to achieve, I have made an attempt at rephrasing my >>> question in the hope its more clear and will generate more responses. If >>> not, then I'm not offended or anything like that. So here' it goes. >>> >>> Hello all, I want to start trying the newly released Pages that Apple >>> released last year for the Mac. >>> Currently, my version of the app stands at 5.2 just so you know what I'm >>> working with. >>> >>> What I would particularly like your advice with, is how do you, as the >>> user, go about saving and editing your documents. >>> >>> I am trying to save my documents in word format. However, when I come to >>> open it again and do some more editing with the document and Command S to >>> save it again, it doesn't apply the save. I get a dialog box asking me to >>> save it again. As if I were performing the function, of save as the 2nd >>> time. which isn't what I want it to do. I just want to save the changes as >>> I would continue working with the document. >>> >>> Idealy, I'd like to Save in a format which goes between Mac and Windows >>> hence as saving as Word to preserve compatibility between the two systems. >>> >>> So, any tips or advice from those who use the new pages on the Mac, in >>> regards to saving as word documents would be vastly appreciated! >>> >>> Thank you. >>> >>> Daniel >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visi
Re: The best way of saving and editing documents with the new pages on the mac
Currently, you cannot do what you are attempting. Pages is designed to work in pages format. When one is completely finished with the document, one then exports it to word format should one desire to do so. This is all part of the competition between Apple and Microsoft for the office spaces of the world. I do not expect it to change any time soon considering Apple's new data continuity initiative where data will transfer seamlessly between Apple products. I remember how people had very similar complaints when Word's .doc format started encroaching on the then dominant Word Perfect. Given Apple's unparalleled commitment to universal access, I hope they are successful and unseat MS Word. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone > On 1 Jul 2014, at 6:54, Daniel McGee wrote: > > Hi all, I only got one answer to this question below from this list. Unless > its just simply no one uses the app or I made an error in trying to get > across what I want to achieve, I have made an attempt at rephrasing my > question in the hope its more clear and will generate more responses. If not, > then I'm not offended or anything like that. So here' it goes. > > Hello all, I want to start trying the newly released Pages that Apple > released last year for the Mac. > Currently, my version of the app stands at 5.2 just so you know what I'm > working with. > > What I would particularly like your advice with, is how do you, as the user, > go about saving and editing your documents. > > I am trying to save my documents in word format. However, when I come to open > it again and do some more editing with the document and Command S to save it > again, it doesn't apply the save. I get a dialog box asking me to save it > again. As if I were performing the function, of save as the 2nd time. which > isn't what I want it to do. I just want to save the changes as I would > continue working with the document. > > Idealy, I'd like to Save in a format which goes between Mac and Windows hence > as saving as Word to preserve compatibility between the two systems. > > So, any tips or advice from those who use the new pages on the Mac, in > regards to saving as word documents would be vastly appreciated! > > Thank you. > > Daniel > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: The best way of saving and editing documents with the new pages on the mac
Hello isaac, yeah I do all that, what you have detailed but when I next come to open the newly saved document, make some edits and then hit CMD S to save. It will pop up a dialog box forcing me to save it in a dot pages format. I just don't get why Pages won't continue saving the file into word once I've created the exported word doc file. So does it continue saving into word, once you've exported it into that file format because it simply doesn't for me. It stubbenly wants me to save in its own format which to me kinds of defeats the purpose of word documents. Either its me or I'm not getting it. :( Daniel , On 30 Jun 2014, at 21:10, isaac wrote: > If you want to save it as a word document you will have to go to the file > menu. > Next go to export submenu. > Next choose word. > After that you should be able to press command s to save it. > isaac > isaac.heb...@gmail.com > Skype gold_wildcat > > On Jun 30, 2014, at 1:54 PM, Daniel McGee > wrote: > >> Hi all, I only got one answer to this question below from this list. Unless >> its just simply no one uses the app or I made an error in trying to get >> across what I want to achieve, I have made an attempt at rephrasing my >> question in the hope its more clear and will generate more responses. If >> not, then I'm not offended or anything like that. So here' it goes. >> >> Hello all, I want to start trying the newly released Pages that Apple >> released last year for the Mac. >> Currently, my version of the app stands at 5.2 just so you know what I'm >> working with. >> >> What I would particularly like your advice with, is how do you, as the user, >> go about saving and editing your documents. >> >> I am trying to save my documents in word format. However, when I come to >> open it again and do some more editing with the document and Command S to >> save it again, it doesn't apply the save. I get a dialog box asking me to >> save it again. As if I were performing the function, of save as the 2nd >> time. which isn't what I want it to do. I just want to save the changes as I >> would continue working with the document. >> >> Idealy, I'd like to Save in a format which goes between Mac and Windows >> hence as saving as Word to preserve compatibility between the two systems. >> >> So, any tips or advice from those who use the new pages on the Mac, in >> regards to saving as word documents would be vastly appreciated! >> >> Thank you. >> >> Daniel >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: The best way of saving and editing documents with the new pages on the mac
If you want to save it as a word document you will have to go to the file menu. Next go to export submenu. Next choose word. After that you should be able to press command s to save it. isaac isaac.heb...@gmail.com Skype gold_wildcat On Jun 30, 2014, at 1:54 PM, Daniel McGee wrote: > Hi all, I only got one answer to this question below from this list. Unless > its just simply no one uses the app or I made an error in trying to get > across what I want to achieve, I have made an attempt at rephrasing my > question in the hope its more clear and will generate more responses. If not, > then I'm not offended or anything like that. So here' it goes. > > Hello all, I want to start trying the newly released Pages that Apple > released last year for the Mac. > Currently, my version of the app stands at 5.2 just so you know what I'm > working with. > > What I would particularly like your advice with, is how do you, as the user, > go about saving and editing your documents. > > I am trying to save my documents in word format. However, when I come to open > it again and do some more editing with the document and Command S to save it > again, it doesn't apply the save. I get a dialog box asking me to save it > again. As if I were performing the function, of save as the 2nd time. which > isn't what I want it to do. I just want to save the changes as I would > continue working with the document. > > Idealy, I'd like to Save in a format which goes between Mac and Windows hence > as saving as Word to preserve compatibility between the two systems. > > So, any tips or advice from those who use the new pages on the Mac, in > regards to saving as word documents would be vastly appreciated! > > Thank you. > > Daniel > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.