Re: Wi-fi Query

[Simon Fogarty]

Interesting thought.

Guess for me it’s not costing anything more  to have it running but I may have 
uploads to my ftp server come in during the night 

As for saety, everything in my network is behind the firewall and you need to 
vpn if you want to conect to the ntwork from outside,
Even the ftp is now using ssl for security  and currently only 2 people have 
the details to connect to it.


Sent from my iPhone

> On 10/06/2018, at 12:20 PM, E.T.  wrote:
> 
>   Forgot to tell why I turn the router off at night. Just to be safe. Its not 
> used anyway.
> 
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>> On 6/9/2018 5:17 PM, Simon Fogarty wrote:
>> Hi ET,
>> No issues,
>> Kind of helps when we hve the same devices
>> Cheers.
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> On 10/06/2018, at 9:49 AM, E.T.  wrote:
>>> 
>>>   Simon thanks, I had not thought of doing this in the router itself. 
>>> Cheers.
>>> 
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 On 6/9/2018 2:08 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote:
 Hi ET,
  Yes your router can tell you what is connected.
 Go to your routers home screen, so the screen after you have logged in,
  Then you should have tab options for
 Internet,
 Wireless,
 Then attached devices,
 Open the attached devices tab and then I had to refresh the page but it 
 listed all my devices with name and connection type eg wifi etc.
 Can't remember if it had the ip address for each device but should be easy 
 enough to find out.
  As for same IP being used by two devices . yeah it happens.
 If your routers only just powered on, it may provide the same ip address 
 to two machines but this should correct itself after a few minutes
 Although on your windows machine you can get it to grab a new address by 
 opening a command prompt and using the ipconfig / release
 Then ipconfig / renew commands
 I have all my devices using DHCP so that's 4 windows servers, a notebook,
 Apple tv, blueray, tv and a number of sonos devices,
  I get no issues from them.
  I do have my iPhone and iPad using reserved IP addresses through mac 
 address filtering,
  But none of my devices give me any errors with ip already in use.
 Also I wonderd why you turn yor router off over night?
 I never turn my router off unless the power to the house goes off.
 I just wondered why you do this??
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
 Behalf Of E.T.
 Sent: Friday, 8 June 2018 5:21 AM
 To: MacVisionaries 
 Subject: Wi-fi Query
 I turn my router off at night so its fresh in the morning; Today after 
 restarting the router and booting the Mac, then starting VMware Fusion but 
 not yet running the VM, the Mac popped up a dialog informing me that 
 another device was using the same IP address. I repeated the whole process 
 after turning off the iPhone so there would not br anything else 
 connecting. Same dialog different IP address. Started over with iPhone 
 turned on. No dialog this time.
 Should this happen again, how can I see what might be connected to my 
 Wi-Fi?
 Side note; when I went to menu extras and opened the Wi-Fi item, my 
 phone was listed under Personal Hotspot even though this is not enabled on 
 my iPhone. Is this normal?
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Re: Wi-fi Query

[E.T.]

   Forgot to tell why I turn the router off at night. Just to be safe. 
Its not used anyway.


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On 6/9/2018 5:17 PM, Simon Fogarty wrote:

Hi ET,

No issues,

Kind of helps when we hve the same devices

Cheers.

Sent from my iPhone


On 10/06/2018, at 9:49 AM, E.T.  wrote:

   Simon thanks, I had not thought of doing this in the router itself. Cheers.

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On 6/9/2018 2:08 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote:
Hi ET,
  Yes your router can tell you what is connected.
Go to your routers home screen, so the screen after you have logged in,
  Then you should have tab options for
Internet,
Wireless,
Then attached devices,
Open the attached devices tab and then I had to refresh the page but it listed 
all my devices with name and connection type eg wifi etc.
Can't remember if it had the ip address for each device but should be easy 
enough to find out.
  As for same IP being used by two devices . yeah it happens.
If your routers only just powered on, it may provide the same ip address to two 
machines but this should correct itself after a few minutes
Although on your windows machine you can get it to grab a new address by 
opening a command prompt and using the ipconfig / release
Then ipconfig / renew commands
I have all my devices using DHCP so that's 4 windows servers, a notebook,
Apple tv, blueray, tv and a number of sonos devices,
  I get no issues from them.
  I do have my iPhone and iPad using reserved IP addresses through mac address 
filtering,
  But none of my devices give me any errors with ip already in use.
Also I wonderd why you turn yor router off over night?
I never turn my router off unless the power to the house goes off.
I just wondered why you do this??
-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of E.T.
Sent: Friday, 8 June 2018 5:21 AM
To: MacVisionaries 
Subject: Wi-fi Query
 I turn my router off at night so its fresh in the morning; Today after 
restarting the router and booting the Mac, then starting VMware Fusion but not 
yet running the VM, the Mac popped up a dialog informing me that another device 
was using the same IP address. I repeated the whole process after turning off 
the iPhone so there would not br anything else connecting. Same dialog 
different IP address. Started over with iPhone turned on. No dialog this time.
 Should this happen again, how can I see what might be connected to my 
Wi-Fi?
 Side note; when I went to menu extras and opened the Wi-Fi item, my phone 
was listed under Personal Hotspot even though this is not enabled on my iPhone. 
Is this normal?
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Re: Wi-fi Query

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi ET,

No issues, 

Kind of helps when we hve the same devices 

Cheers.

Sent from my iPhone

> On 10/06/2018, at 9:49 AM, E.T.  wrote:
> 
>   Simon thanks, I had not thought of doing this in the router itself. Cheers.
> 
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>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
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>> On 6/9/2018 2:08 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote:
>> Hi ET,
>>  Yes your router can tell you what is connected.
>> Go to your routers home screen, so the screen after you have logged in,
>>  Then you should have tab options for
>> Internet,
>> Wireless,
>> Then attached devices,
>> Open the attached devices tab and then I had to refresh the page but it 
>> listed all my devices with name and connection type eg wifi etc.
>> Can't remember if it had the ip address for each device but should be easy 
>> enough to find out.
>>  As for same IP being used by two devices . yeah it happens.
>> If your routers only just powered on, it may provide the same ip address to 
>> two machines but this should correct itself after a few minutes
>> Although on your windows machine you can get it to grab a new address by 
>> opening a command prompt and using the ipconfig / release
>> Then ipconfig / renew commands
>> I have all my devices using DHCP so that's 4 windows servers, a notebook,
>> Apple tv, blueray, tv and a number of sonos devices,
>>  I get no issues from them.
>>  I do have my iPhone and iPad using reserved IP addresses through mac 
>> address filtering,
>>  But none of my devices give me any errors with ip already in use.
>> Also I wonderd why you turn yor router off over night?
>> I never turn my router off unless the power to the house goes off.
>> I just wondered why you do this??
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
>> Behalf Of E.T.
>> Sent: Friday, 8 June 2018 5:21 AM
>> To: MacVisionaries 
>> Subject: Wi-fi Query
>> I turn my router off at night so its fresh in the morning; Today after 
>> restarting the router and booting the Mac, then starting VMware Fusion but 
>> not yet running the VM, the Mac popped up a dialog informing me that another 
>> device was using the same IP address. I repeated the whole process after 
>> turning off the iPhone so there would not br anything else connecting. Same 
>> dialog different IP address. Started over with iPhone turned on. No dialog 
>> this time.
>> Should this happen again, how can I see what might be connected to my 
>> Wi-Fi?
>> Side note; when I went to menu extras and opened the Wi-Fi item, my 
>> phone was listed under Personal Hotspot even though this is not enabled on 
>> my iPhone. Is this normal?
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Re: Wi-fi Query

[E.T.]

   Simon thanks, I had not thought of doing this in the router itself. 
Cheers.


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On 6/9/2018 2:08 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote:

Hi ET,

  Yes your router can tell you what is connected.

Go to your routers home screen, so the screen after you have logged in,
  Then you should have tab options for
Internet,
Wireless,
Then attached devices,

Open the attached devices tab and then I had to refresh the page but it listed 
all my devices with name and connection type eg wifi etc.

Can't remember if it had the ip address for each device but should be easy 
enough to find out.

  As for same IP being used by two devices . yeah it happens.

If your routers only just powered on, it may provide the same ip address to two 
machines but this should correct itself after a few minutes
Although on your windows machine you can get it to grab a new address by 
opening a command prompt and using the ipconfig / release
Then ipconfig / renew commands

I have all my devices using DHCP so that's 4 windows servers, a notebook,
Apple tv, blueray, tv and a number of sonos devices,
  I get no issues from them.

  I do have my iPhone and iPad using reserved IP addresses through mac address 
filtering,
  But none of my devices give me any errors with ip already in use.

Also I wonderd why you turn yor router off over night?

I never turn my router off unless the power to the house goes off.

I just wondered why you do this??
-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of E.T.
Sent: Friday, 8 June 2018 5:21 AM
To: MacVisionaries 
Subject: Wi-fi Query

 I turn my router off at night so its fresh in the morning; Today after 
restarting the router and booting the Mac, then starting VMware Fusion but not 
yet running the VM, the Mac popped up a dialog informing me that another device 
was using the same IP address. I repeated the whole process after turning off 
the iPhone so there would not br anything else connecting. Same dialog 
different IP address. Started over with iPhone turned on. No dialog this time.

 Should this happen again, how can I see what might be connected to my 
Wi-Fi?

 Side note; when I went to menu extras and opened the Wi-Fi item, my phone 
was listed under Personal Hotspot even though this is not enabled on my iPhone. 
Is this normal?

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RE: Wi-fi Query

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi ET,

 Yes your router can tell you what is connected.

Go to your routers home screen, so the screen after you have logged in,
 Then you should have tab options for 
Internet,
Wireless,
Then attached devices,

Open the attached devices tab and then I had to refresh the page but it listed 
all my devices with name and connection type eg wifi etc.

Can't remember if it had the ip address for each device but should be easy 
enough to find out.

 As for same IP being used by two devices . yeah it happens.

If your routers only just powered on, it may provide the same ip address to two 
machines but this should correct itself after a few minutes 
Although on your windows machine you can get it to grab a new address by 
opening a command prompt and using the ipconfig / release 
Then ipconfig / renew commands 

I have all my devices using DHCP so that's 4 windows servers, a notebook,
Apple tv, blueray, tv and a number of sonos devices,
 I get no issues from them.

 I do have my iPhone and iPad using reserved IP addresses through mac address 
filtering,
 But none of my devices give me any errors with ip already in use.

Also I wonderd why you turn yor router off over night?

I never turn my router off unless the power to the house goes off.

I just wondered why you do this??
-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of E.T.
Sent: Friday, 8 June 2018 5:21 AM
To: MacVisionaries 
Subject: Wi-fi Query

I turn my router off at night so its fresh in the morning; Today after 
restarting the router and booting the Mac, then starting VMware Fusion but not 
yet running the VM, the Mac popped up a dialog informing me that another device 
was using the same IP address. I repeated the whole process after turning off 
the iPhone so there would not br anything else connecting. Same dialog 
different IP address. Started over with iPhone turned on. No dialog this time.

Should this happen again, how can I see what might be connected to my Wi-Fi?

Side note; when I went to menu extras and opened the Wi-Fi item, my phone 
was listed under Personal Hotspot even though this is not enabled on my iPhone. 
Is this normal?

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Re: Wi-fi Query

[E.T.]

Jonathan,
   Tim was spot on. Just give the router more time to boot up before 
starting the Mac. I was powering both on at about the same time.


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On 6/7/2018 12:00 PM, Jonathan Cohn wrote:
Another possibility is that both your router and your ISP are responding 
to DHCP requests. If you expect your router to be handling DHCP then 
make sure of the following:


1. Only one device is configured for DHCP on your LAN.
2. That broadcast ethernet packets on your lan do not get sent out 
beyond it.



On Jun 7, 2018, at 1:47 PM, Tim Kilburn > wrote:


Hi,

Sounds like either your Mac was already on when the router started up, 
or the Mac started up faster than the router.  Two ways to stop that 
message are to just restart the Mac so that it will get a new DHCP 
lease from the router, or you can go into System Prefs, Network, then 
to the Advanced button.  Select the DHCP tab from here and press the 
"Renew DHCP Lease" button.  This should clear up any confusion.


Later...


Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jun 7, 2018, at 11:20, E.T. > wrote:


  I turn my router off at night so its fresh in the morning; Today 
after restarting the router and booting the Mac, then starting VMware 
Fusion but not yet running the VM, the Mac popped up a dialog 
informing me that another device was using the same IP address. I 
repeated the whole process after turning off the iPhone so there would 
not br anything else connecting. Same dialog different IP address. 
Started over with iPhone turned on. No dialog this time.


  Should this happen again, how can I see what might be connected to 
my Wi-Fi?


  Side note; when I went to menu extras and opened the Wi-Fi item, my 
phone was listed under Personal Hotspot even though this is not 
enabled on my iPhone. Is this normal?


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Re: Wi-fi Query

[Jonathan Cohn]

Another possibility is that both your router and your ISP are responding to 
DHCP requests. If you expect your router to be handling DHCP then make sure of 
the following:

1. Only one device is configured for DHCP on your LAN.
2. That broadcast ethernet packets on your lan do not get sent out beyond it. 


> On Jun 7, 2018, at 1:47 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Sounds like either your Mac was already on when the router started up, or the 
> Mac started up faster than the router.  Two ways to stop that message are to 
> just restart the Mac so that it will get a new DHCP lease from the router, or 
> you can go into System Prefs, Network, then to the Advanced button.  Select 
> the DHCP tab from here and press the "Renew DHCP Lease" button.  This should 
> clear up any confusion.
> 
> Later...
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
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> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Jun 7, 2018, at 11:20, E.T.  > wrote:
> 
>   I turn my router off at night so its fresh in the morning; Today after 
> restarting the router and booting the Mac, then starting VMware Fusion but 
> not yet running the VM, the Mac popped up a dialog informing me that another 
> device was using the same IP address. I repeated the whole process after 
> turning off the iPhone so there would not br anything else connecting. Same 
> dialog different IP address. Started over with iPhone turned on. No dialog 
> this time.
> 
>   Should this happen again, how can I see what might be connected to my Wi-Fi?
> 
>   Side note; when I went to menu extras and opened the Wi-Fi item, my phone 
> was listed under Personal Hotspot even though this is not enabled on my 
> iPhone. Is this normal?
> 
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Re: Wi-fi Query

[E.T.]

   That may be exactly it. I will delay the Mac startup a little more. 
I can do a jig and them turn the Mac loose. :) Thanks Tim.


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On 6/7/2018 10:47 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:

Hi,

Sounds like either your Mac was already on when the router started up, 
or the Mac started up faster than the router.  Two ways to stop that 
message are to just restart the Mac so that it will get a new DHCP lease 
from the router, or you can go into System Prefs, Network, then to the 
Advanced button.  Select the DHCP tab from here and press the "Renew 
DHCP Lease" button.  This should clear up any confusion.


Later...


Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jun 7, 2018, at 11:20, E.T. > wrote:


   I turn my router off at night so its fresh in the morning; Today 
after restarting the router and booting the Mac, then starting VMware 
Fusion but not yet running the VM, the Mac popped up a dialog informing 
me that another device was using the same IP address. I repeated the 
whole process after turning off the iPhone so there would not br 
anything else connecting. Same dialog different IP address. Started over 
with iPhone turned on. No dialog this time.


   Should this happen again, how can I see what might be connected to my 
Wi-Fi?


   Side note; when I went to menu extras and opened the Wi-Fi item, my 
phone was listed under Personal Hotspot even though this is not enabled 
on my iPhone. Is this normal?


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Re: Wi-fi Query

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

Sounds like either your Mac was already on when the router started up, or the 
Mac started up faster than the router.  Two ways to stop that message are to 
just restart the Mac so that it will get a new DHCP lease from the router, or 
you can go into System Prefs, Network, then to the Advanced button.  Select the 
DHCP tab from here and press the "Renew DHCP Lease" button.  This should clear 
up any confusion.

Later...


Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jun 7, 2018, at 11:20, E.T.  wrote:

  I turn my router off at night so its fresh in the morning; Today after 
restarting the router and booting the Mac, then starting VMware Fusion but not 
yet running the VM, the Mac popped up a dialog informing me that another device 
was using the same IP address. I repeated the whole process after turning off 
the iPhone so there would not br anything else connecting. Same dialog 
different IP address. Started over with iPhone turned on. No dialog this time.

  Should this happen again, how can I see what might be connected to my Wi-Fi?

  Side note; when I went to menu extras and opened the Wi-Fi item, my phone was 
listed under Personal Hotspot even though this is not enabled on my iPhone. Is 
this normal?

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