Re: creating a smart play list

2013-12-04 Thread Kevin Shaw
Hi Cait,

I'm the one who manages the Christmas music playlist n my family, so I have a 
sure fire way for you to create your smart playlist.

Instead of using the Genre field to create the playlist, I use the Grouping 
field to indicate that the files are christmas songs.

YOu can do this easily by pressing command-I on the particular song, navigating 
to the grouping field and typing Christmas. YOu can do multiple songs at a 
time this way. I do this for particular songs on an album, especially if I 
don't want the entire album in my christmas playlist. 

Once you have Christmas in the Grouping field, you can specify that Grouping 
contains Christmas in the smart playlist rules. YOu'll have a smart playlist 
containing all of the songs you want. 

To prevent the songs from coming up on shuffle when you've got the rest of your 
library playing, you can select all in the Christmas playlist and uncheck them. 
(I do this after the Christmas season.) If you check Skip when Shuffling in 
the options dialog, they will skip when you use shuffle, but not if you're 
playing the songs one after the other in your playlist. 

I personally check and uncheck the songs in the playlist, as I prefer the 
occasional surprise Christmas song when I am shuffling through the rest of my 
music or when programming music for a party.

Contact me off list if you need a hand with anything here.
Kevin

On 2013-12-03, at 6:53 PM, Caitlyn and Maggie caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,
 I am trying to create a smart play list of all my christmas music in i tunes.
 
 I have ahuge huge library, so don’t want to do this by hand!
 
 I started to create the list by selecting genre, then told it that it was 
 christmas music, picked live update, then saved it.
 
 What am I missing?
 
 Oh, and I also don’t want the play list to be played when I shuffle other 
 songs..
 
 Thanks for any help!  I thought I had a handle on this, but obviously I’m 
 lost!
 Bread crumbs welcomed!
 Cait
 
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Re: creating a smart play list

2013-12-04 Thread Caitlyn and Maggie
Kevin,
this makes perfect sense, so thanks!

doing it this way, though, I’d have to go through my 7,000 plus library by hand 
and tag each song with the christmas grouping, right?  I was trying to avoid 
that, if possible..
Cait, probably being lazy

On Dec 4, 2013, at 5:38 AM, Kevin Shaw tvsound...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Cait,
 
 I'm the one who manages the Christmas music playlist n my family, so I have a 
 sure fire way for you to create your smart playlist.
 
 Instead of using the Genre field to create the playlist, I use the Grouping 
 field to indicate that the files are christmas songs.
 
 YOu can do this easily by pressing command-I on the particular song, 
 navigating to the grouping field and typing Christmas. YOu can do multiple 
 songs at a time this way. I do this for particular songs on an album, 
 especially if I don't want the entire album in my christmas playlist. 
 
 Once you have Christmas in the Grouping field, you can specify that 
 Grouping contains Christmas in the smart playlist rules. YOu'll have a 
 smart playlist containing all of the songs you want. 
 
 To prevent the songs from coming up on shuffle when you've got the rest of 
 your library playing, you can select all in the Christmas playlist and 
 uncheck them. (I do this after the Christmas season.) If you check Skip when 
 Shuffling in the options dialog, they will skip when you use shuffle, but 
 not if you're playing the songs one after the other in your playlist. 
 
 I personally check and uncheck the songs in the playlist, as I prefer the 
 occasional surprise Christmas song when I am shuffling through the rest of my 
 music or when programming music for a party.
 
 Contact me off list if you need a hand with anything here.
 Kevin
 
 On 2013-12-03, at 6:53 PM, Caitlyn and Maggie caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi,
 I am trying to create a smart play list of all my christmas music in i tunes.
 
 I have ahuge huge library, so don’t want to do this by hand!
 
 I started to create the list by selecting genre, then told it that it was 
 christmas music, picked live update, then saved it.
 
 What am I missing?
 
 Oh, and I also don’t want the play list to be played when I shuffle other 
 songs..
 
 Thanks for any help!  I thought I had a handle on this, but obviously I’m 
 lost!
 Bread crumbs welcomed!
 Cait
 
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Re: creating a smart play list

2013-12-04 Thread Caitlyn and Maggie
thanks, Tim.
Between you and Kevin, I’ll get this figured out!
Cait

On Dec 3, 2013, at 8:55 PM, Tim Kilburn kilbur...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,
 Check the exact words for your Genre.  Often purchased Christmas Music has 
 the genre “Holiday” instead of Christmas Music.  If you use “is” then the 
 genre needs to  be spelled exactly the same in your matching criteria as it 
 is in the Genre tag for the specific songs.  If you use “Contains”, then it 
 will look for that word within the Genre tag.  Regarding whether or not it 
 will play while shuffling other songs all depends on whether the Christmas 
 music resides in the playlist you are listening to.  If you’re listening to 
 the main library of songs, then they will occasionally be played just because 
 they’re there.  You could uncheck them after Christmas time and tell iTunes 
 only to play checked items but when they’re checked and within the library or 
 playlist that you’re focused on, the possibility is there that they’ll be 
 played in the shuffle somewhere.
 
 Later…
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Dec 3, 2013, at 4:53 PM, Caitlyn and Maggie caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi,
 I am trying to create a smart play list of all my christmas music in i tunes.
 
 I have ahuge huge library, so don’t want to do this by hand!
 
 I started to create the list by selecting genre, then told it that it was 
 christmas music, picked live update, then saved it.
 
 What am I missing?
 
 Oh, and I also don’t want the play list to be played when I shuffle other 
 songs..
 
 Thanks for any help!  I thought I had a handle on this, but obviously I’m 
 lost!
 Bread crumbs welcomed!
 Cait
 
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Re: creating a smart play list

2013-12-04 Thread Kevin Shaw
One way around this is to use the search function to grab a batch of 
Christmas-related songs. the song may have Christmas in the title, the 
genre, the album name and so on. This is a good way of grabbing most of the 
content to tag it. 

You can then do a search for terms like Holiday Seasonal and so on. Don't 
forget to do a search for Xmas spelled with an X. This should help you avoid 
doing a search by hand. 

I've done grouping on things like:
christmas: The catch all playlist that holds all Christmas music.
Family Christmas: Family-friendly Christmas music I put on with family so they 
aren't tortured by west coast cool jazz versions of Santa Claus is Coming to 
Town. (I don't see a problem with that, but they don't have good taste in music 
anyway.) ;)
Instrumental Christmas: Christmas music without words.
Modern Christmas: New Christmas music that lives or dies depending on whether I 
or family likes it. This is a very small playlist.

These can reside in a playlist folder. 

HTH,
Kevin

On 2013-12-04, at 2:25 PM, Caitlyn and Maggie caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com wrote:

 Kevin,
 this makes perfect sense, so thanks!
 
 doing it this way, though, I’d have to go through my 7,000 plus library by 
 hand and tag each song with the christmas grouping, right?  I was trying to 
 avoid that, if possible..
 Cait, probably being lazy
 
 On Dec 4, 2013, at 5:38 AM, Kevin Shaw tvsound...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Cait,
 
 I'm the one who manages the Christmas music playlist n my family, so I have 
 a sure fire way for you to create your smart playlist.
 
 Instead of using the Genre field to create the playlist, I use the Grouping 
 field to indicate that the files are christmas songs.
 
 YOu can do this easily by pressing command-I on the particular song, 
 navigating to the grouping field and typing Christmas. YOu can do multiple 
 songs at a time this way. I do this for particular songs on an album, 
 especially if I don't want the entire album in my christmas playlist. 
 
 Once you have Christmas in the Grouping field, you can specify that 
 Grouping contains Christmas in the smart playlist rules. YOu'll have a 
 smart playlist containing all of the songs you want. 
 
 To prevent the songs from coming up on shuffle when you've got the rest of 
 your library playing, you can select all in the Christmas playlist and 
 uncheck them. (I do this after the Christmas season.) If you check Skip 
 when Shuffling in the options dialog, they will skip when you use shuffle, 
 but not if you're playing the songs one after the other in your playlist. 
 
 I personally check and uncheck the songs in the playlist, as I prefer the 
 occasional surprise Christmas song when I am shuffling through the rest of 
 my music or when programming music for a party.
 
 Contact me off list if you need a hand with anything here.
 Kevin
 
 On 2013-12-03, at 6:53 PM, Caitlyn and Maggie caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi,
 I am trying to create a smart play list of all my christmas music in i 
 tunes.
 
 I have ahuge huge library, so don’t want to do this by hand!
 
 I started to create the list by selecting genre, then told it that it was 
 christmas music, picked live update, then saved it.
 
 What am I missing?
 
 Oh, and I also don’t want the play list to be played when I shuffle other 
 songs..
 
 Thanks for any help!  I thought I had a handle on this, but obviously I’m 
 lost!
 Bread crumbs welcomed!
 Cait
 
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Re: creating a smart play list

2013-12-04 Thread Caitlyn and Maggie
Ok, good idea, that should work.  and, I didn’t think of that.
having a brain dead day, I guess!
thanks a bunch!
Cait, off to play with i tunes

On Dec 4, 2013, at 2:37 PM, Kevin Shaw tvsound...@gmail.com wrote:

 One way around this is to use the search function to grab a batch of 
 Christmas-related songs. the song may have Christmas in the title, the 
 genre, the album name and so on. This is a good way of grabbing most of the 
 content to tag it. 
 
 You can then do a search for terms like Holiday Seasonal and so on. Don't 
 forget to do a search for Xmas spelled with an X. This should help you avoid 
 doing a search by hand. 
 
 I've done grouping on things like:
 christmas: The catch all playlist that holds all Christmas music.
 Family Christmas: Family-friendly Christmas music I put on with family so 
 they aren't tortured by west coast cool jazz versions of Santa Claus is 
 Coming to Town. (I don't see a problem with that, but they don't have good 
 taste in music anyway.) ;)
 Instrumental Christmas: Christmas music without words.
 Modern Christmas: New Christmas music that lives or dies depending on whether 
 I or family likes it. This is a very small playlist.
 
 These can reside in a playlist folder. 
 
 HTH,
 Kevin
 
 On 2013-12-04, at 2:25 PM, Caitlyn and Maggie caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Kevin,
 this makes perfect sense, so thanks!
 
 doing it this way, though, I’d have to go through my 7,000 plus library by 
 hand and tag each song with the christmas grouping, right?  I was trying to 
 avoid that, if possible..
 Cait, probably being lazy
 
 On Dec 4, 2013, at 5:38 AM, Kevin Shaw tvsound...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Cait,
 
 I'm the one who manages the Christmas music playlist n my family, so I have 
 a sure fire way for you to create your smart playlist.
 
 Instead of using the Genre field to create the playlist, I use the Grouping 
 field to indicate that the files are christmas songs.
 
 YOu can do this easily by pressing command-I on the particular song, 
 navigating to the grouping field and typing Christmas. YOu can do 
 multiple songs at a time this way. I do this for particular songs on an 
 album, especially if I don't want the entire album in my christmas 
 playlist. 
 
 Once you have Christmas in the Grouping field, you can specify that 
 Grouping contains Christmas in the smart playlist rules. YOu'll have a 
 smart playlist containing all of the songs you want. 
 
 To prevent the songs from coming up on shuffle when you've got the rest of 
 your library playing, you can select all in the Christmas playlist and 
 uncheck them. (I do this after the Christmas season.) If you check Skip 
 when Shuffling in the options dialog, they will skip when you use shuffle, 
 but not if you're playing the songs one after the other in your playlist. 
 
 I personally check and uncheck the songs in the playlist, as I prefer the 
 occasional surprise Christmas song when I am shuffling through the rest of 
 my music or when programming music for a party.
 
 Contact me off list if you need a hand with anything here.
 Kevin
 
 On 2013-12-03, at 6:53 PM, Caitlyn and Maggie caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi,
 I am trying to create a smart play list of all my christmas music in i 
 tunes.
 
 I have ahuge huge library, so don’t want to do this by hand!
 
 I started to create the list by selecting genre, then told it that it was 
 christmas music, picked live update, then saved it.
 
 What am I missing?
 
 Oh, and I also don’t want the play list to be played when I shuffle other 
 songs..
 
 Thanks for any help!  I thought I had a handle on this, but obviously I’m 
 lost!
 Bread crumbs welcomed!
 Cait
 
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Re: creating a smart play list

2013-12-03 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi,
Check the exact words for your Genre.  Often purchased Christmas Music has the 
genre “Holiday” instead of Christmas Music.  If you use “is” then the genre 
needs to  be spelled exactly the same in your matching criteria as it is in the 
Genre tag for the specific songs.  If you use “Contains”, then it will look for 
that word within the Genre tag.  Regarding whether or not it will play while 
shuffling other songs all depends on whether the Christmas music resides in the 
playlist you are listening to.  If you’re listening to the main library of 
songs, then they will occasionally be played just because they’re there.  You 
could uncheck them after Christmas time and tell iTunes only to play checked 
items but when they’re checked and within the library or playlist that you’re 
focused on, the possibility is there that they’ll be played in the shuffle 
somewhere.

Later…

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Dec 3, 2013, at 4:53 PM, Caitlyn and Maggie caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com 
wrote:

 Hi,
 I am trying to create a smart play list of all my christmas music in i tunes.
 
 I have ahuge huge library, so don’t want to do this by hand!
 
 I started to create the list by selecting genre, then told it that it was 
 christmas music, picked live update, then saved it.
 
 What am I missing?
 
 Oh, and I also don’t want the play list to be played when I shuffle other 
 songs..
 
 Thanks for any help!  I thought I had a handle on this, but obviously I’m 
 lost!
 Bread crumbs welcomed!
 Cait
 
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