Re: flash player question

2009-07-02 Thread Chris Blouch
The code I gave earlier works fine in IE and Firefox on WinXP SP3 with 
QuickTime installed. It also works just fine on Safari and FF on OSX. 
With the links on the page I can use VO to navigate to the video links 
and stop/start playback. If I were to do it again I might make it a 
toggle so I don't have to navigate to another link just to stop the 
video. I'd also implement some keyboard shortcuts. Someday when I have 
more time :)

CB

Maxwell Ivey Jr. wrote:
> Hello Chris;  I was trying to do the same thing using quicktime to  
> embed a .mov file.  I chose for it to start automatically once someone  
> clicks on the link.  It seams to work ok in safari, but alex just told  
> me it isn't working on his windows or lynex systems.  When I go to my  
> own websie, I can't find the buttons, so I guess that is what you were  
> showing me with the extra code.  I hope i get this figured out soon,  
> am a one man band and i'm getting behind on other work for my site  
> trying to get this right.  Thanks again, Max
> On Jul 2, 2009, at 10:00 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:
>
>   
>> Flash works fine but is not accessible in Mac browsers. It has some
>> accessibility on Windows with Jaws (dunno about WindowEyes) but even
>> then it has to have been coded with labeled buttons and such. HTML5
>> supports a new video tag which should be accessible but I haven't  
>> tried
>> that out. What I have done is used quicktime to embed video in the  
>> page
>> and then made HTML links to start and stop it. Here is a snippet of  
>> code
>> which does this:
>>
>> > codebase="http://www.apple.com/qtactivex/qtplugin.cab"; width="335"
>> height="312" id="movie2">
>>
>>> value="/videos/accessibility/JawsFormGoodMarkupQT.smil">
>>
>>> qtsrc="/videos/accessibility/JawsFormGoodMarkupQT.smil"  
>> autoplay="false"
>> width="335" height="312"
>> pluginspage="http://www.apple.com/quicktime/download/";
>> enablejavascript="true" name="movie2">
>> 
>> 
>> Play good  
>> form
>> markup video
>> Stop good  
>> form
>> markup video
>> 
>>
>> You probably could do something similar for flash but the video player
>> you use would need to enable control by javascript.
>>
>> Hope this helps.
>>
>> CB
>>
>> Maxwell Ivey Jr. wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello List;  I need to know if there is a definitive answer about
>>> whether or not flash players and their files will play on a mac.  The
>>> reason for this has to do with my website.  I'm wanting to add a
>>> video, and everything I read seams to be about using some sort of a
>>> flash player.  I've run across a lot of websites that talk about  
>>> using
>>> a flv player.  As macs seam to be gaining popularity I don't want to
>>> put something on my website that exclused people just because they
>>> aren't using internet explorer.  I'll appreciate any help I can get.
>>> thank you, Max
>>>
>>>   
>
>
> >
>   

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Re: flash player question

2009-07-02 Thread Chris Blouch
Right. And Flash assumes Flash is installed. This is why the new video 
tag is so important. All these plugins have been trying to address a 
gaping hole in the browser backplane. The inability to handle audio and 
video was not such a big deal when most folks were on dialup, but that's 
not the case anymore and I shouldn't have to rely on users having 
installed certain proprietary plugins just to do basic stuff. That said, 
I'm still unclear on the video tags codec support. It seems that on 
Safari it will playback any video that QT supports. That means with the 
XiphQT component installed you can play Ogg Theora. It's still a bit of 
a mess since different browsers on different platforms will have native 
support for different codecs. Ian Hickson wrote about this issue on Monday:

http://lists.whatwg.org/htdig.cgi/whatwg-whatwg.org/2009-June/020620.html

The interesting summary is this:



The current situation is as follows:

   Apple refuses to implement Ogg Theora in Quicktime by default (as used
   by Safari), citing lack of hardware support and an uncertain patent
   landscape.

   Google has implemented H.264 and Ogg Theora in Chrome, but cannot
   provide the H.264 codec license to third-party distributors of
   Chromium, and have indicated a belief that Ogg Theora's quality-per-bit
   is not yet suitable for the volume handled by YouTube.

   Opera refuses to implement H.264, citing the obscene cost of the
   relevant patent licenses.

   Mozilla refuses to implement H.264, as they would not be able to obtain
   a license that covers their downstream distributors.

   Microsoft has not commented on their intent to support  at all."



CB

Alex Jurgensen wrote:
> Hi,
> Chris,
>
> This assumes that Windows has QT installed.
>
> Regards,
> Alex,
>
>
> On 2-Jul-09, at 9:12 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:
>
>> With the current QuickTime it works fine in Windows. I was using QT 
>> mainly because I needed to put captions in the video and html 
>> controls on the page. I also wanted to use mp4 for it's smaller 
>> size/higher quality. My sample code links in a SMIL file for 
>> captions. QT has most of the basic controls accessible via Javascript 
>> so I could make links to toggle audio, captions and playback. This 
>> calls were
>>
>> document.movie1.Play()
>> document.movie1.Stop()
>> document.movie1.SetMute(muted)
>> document.movie1.SetTrackEnabled(2,caption) - caption is either true 
>> or false
>>
>> where the embed tag for the quicktime sets the ID to be 'movie1'
>>
>> CB
>>
>> Alex Jurgensen wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Windows can't play this. Neither can Linux.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Alex,
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2-Jul-09, at 8:29 AM, Maxwell Ivey Jr. wrote:
>>>
 Hello;  Thanks for that.  I wish i had known, but the stuff i was 
 reading on the web was talking about mp4 as if it wouldn't play in 
 quicktime.  Got any suggestions for how i create a download link to 
 go with the streaming one?  Thanks again, Max 
 On Jul 2, 2009, at 10:14 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:

> Quicktime can play mp4 files just fine. The example I gave below 
> is from a working site with mp4 video embedded on it.
>
> CB
>
> Maxwell Ivey Jr. wrote:
>> Hello;  This is pretty much what I had come around to.  I don't like  
>> the idea of running something on my site that I can't use myself.  I  
>> finally decided to search for a program that would convert my mp4  
>> files to mov for quicktime. Turns out vlc which is free did the trick  
>> very nicely.  Now, I have the file and the player embedded on my site,  
>> but I'm not sure how well its working.  would appreciate it if someone  
>> would check the site and click on the watch video and tell me what  
>> they think.  Still needs some tweeking i believe.  Thanks, Max
>> On Jul 2, 2009, at 10:00 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:
>>
>>   
>>> Flash works fine but is not accessible in Mac browsers. It has some
>>> accessibility on Windows with Jaws (dunno about WindowEyes) but even
>>> then it has to have been coded with labeled buttons and such. HTML5
>>> supports a new video tag which should be accessible but I haven't  
>>> tried
>>> that out. What I have done is used quicktime to embed video in the  
>>> page
>>> and then made HTML links to start and stop it. Here is a snippet of  
>>> code
>>> which does this:
>>>
>>> >> codebase="http://www.apple.com/qtactivex/qtplugin.cab"; width="335"
>>> height="312" id="movie2">
>>>
>>>>> value="/videos/accessibility/JawsFormGoodMarkupQT.smil">
>>>
>>>>> qtsrc="/videos/accessibility/JawsFormGoodMarkupQT.smil"  
>>> autoplay="false"
>>> width="335" height="312"
>>> pluginspage="http://www.apple.com/quicktime/download/";
>>> enablejavascript="true" name="movie2">
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Play good  
>>> form
>>> markup video
>>> Stop good  
>>> for

Re: flash player question

2009-07-02 Thread Maxwell Ivey Jr.

Hello Chris;  I was trying to do the same thing using quicktime to  
embed a .mov file.  I chose for it to start automatically once someone  
clicks on the link.  It seams to work ok in safari, but alex just told  
me it isn't working on his windows or lynex systems.  When I go to my  
own websie, I can't find the buttons, so I guess that is what you were  
showing me with the extra code.  I hope i get this figured out soon,  
am a one man band and i'm getting behind on other work for my site  
trying to get this right.  Thanks again, Max
On Jul 2, 2009, at 10:00 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:

>
> Flash works fine but is not accessible in Mac browsers. It has some
> accessibility on Windows with Jaws (dunno about WindowEyes) but even
> then it has to have been coded with labeled buttons and such. HTML5
> supports a new video tag which should be accessible but I haven't  
> tried
> that out. What I have done is used quicktime to embed video in the  
> page
> and then made HTML links to start and stop it. Here is a snippet of  
> code
> which does this:
>
>  codebase="http://www.apple.com/qtactivex/qtplugin.cab"; width="335"
> height="312" id="movie2">
>
> value="/videos/accessibility/JawsFormGoodMarkupQT.smil">
>
> qtsrc="/videos/accessibility/JawsFormGoodMarkupQT.smil"  
> autoplay="false"
> width="335" height="312"
> pluginspage="http://www.apple.com/quicktime/download/";
> enablejavascript="true" name="movie2">
> 
> 
> Play good  
> form
> markup video
> Stop good  
> form
> markup video
> 
>
> You probably could do something similar for flash but the video player
> you use would need to enable control by javascript.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> CB
>
> Maxwell Ivey Jr. wrote:
>> Hello List;  I need to know if there is a definitive answer about
>> whether or not flash players and their files will play on a mac.  The
>> reason for this has to do with my website.  I'm wanting to add a
>> video, and everything I read seams to be about using some sort of a
>> flash player.  I've run across a lot of websites that talk about  
>> using
>> a flv player.  As macs seam to be gaining popularity I don't want to
>> put something on my website that exclused people just because they
>> aren't using internet explorer.  I'll appreciate any help I can get.
>> thank you, Max
>>
>>>
>>
>
> >


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Re: flash player question

2009-07-02 Thread Alex Jurgensen
Hi,
Chris,

This assumes that Windows has QT installed.

Regards,
Alex,


On 2-Jul-09, at 9:12 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:

> With the current QuickTime it works fine in Windows. I was using QT  
> mainly because I needed to put captions in the video and html  
> controls on the page. I also wanted to use mp4 for it's smaller size/ 
> higher quality. My sample code links in a SMIL file for captions. QT  
> has most of the basic controls accessible via Javascript so I could  
> make links to toggle audio, captions and playback. This calls were
>
> document.movie1.Play()
> document.movie1.Stop()
> document.movie1.SetMute(muted)
> document.movie1.SetTrackEnabled(2,caption) - caption is either true  
> or false
>
> where the embed tag for the quicktime sets the ID to be 'movie1'
>
> CB
>
> Alex Jurgensen wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Windows can't play this. Neither can Linux.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Alex,
>>
>>
>> On 2-Jul-09, at 8:29 AM, Maxwell Ivey Jr. wrote:
>>
>>> Hello;  Thanks for that.  I wish i had known, but the stuff i was  
>>> reading on the web was talking about mp4 as if it wouldn't play in  
>>> quicktime.  Got any suggestions for how i create a download link  
>>> to go with the streaming one?  Thanks again, Max
>>> On Jul 2, 2009, at 10:14 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:
>>>
 Quicktime can play mp4 files just fine. The example I gave below  
 is from a working site with mp4 video embedded on it.

 CB

 Maxwell Ivey Jr. wrote:
>
> Hello;  This is pretty much what I had come around to.  I don't  
> like
> the idea of running something on my site that I can't use  
> myself.  I
> finally decided to search for a program that would convert my mp4
> files to mov for quicktime. Turns out vlc which is free did the  
> trick
> very nicely.  Now, I have the file and the player embedded on my  
> site,
> but I'm not sure how well its working.  would appreciate it if  
> someone
> would check the site and click on the watch video and tell me what
> they think.  Still needs some tweeking i believe.  Thanks, Max
> On Jul 2, 2009, at 10:00 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:
>
>
>> Flash works fine but is not accessible in Mac browsers. It has  
>> some
>> accessibility on Windows with Jaws (dunno about WindowEyes) but  
>> even
>> then it has to have been coded with labeled buttons and such.  
>> HTML5
>> supports a new video tag which should be accessible but I haven't
>> tried
>> that out. What I have done is used quicktime to embed video in  
>> the
>> page
>> and then made HTML links to start and stop it. Here is a  
>> snippet of
>> code
>> which does this:
>>
>> > codebase="http://www.apple.com/qtactivex/qtplugin.cab";  
>> width="335"
>> height="312" id="movie2">
>>
>>> value="/videos/accessibility/JawsFormGoodMarkupQT.smil">
>>
>>> qtsrc="/videos/accessibility/JawsFormGoodMarkupQT.smil"
>> autoplay="false"
>> width="335" height="312"
>> pluginspage="http://www.apple.com/quicktime/download/";
>> enablejavascript="true" name="movie2">
>> 
>> 
>> Play  
>> good
>> form
>> markup video
>> Stop  
>> good
>> form
>> markup video
>> 
>>
>> You probably could do something similar for flash but the video  
>> player
>> you use would need to enable control by javascript.
>>
>> Hope this helps.
>>
>> CB
>>
>> Maxwell Ivey Jr. wrote:
>>
>>> Hello List;  I need to know if there is a definitive answer  
>>> about
>>> whether or not flash players and their files will play on a  
>>> mac.  The
>>> reason for this has to do with my website.  I'm wanting to add a
>>> video, and everything I read seams to be about using some sort  
>>> of a
>>> flash player.  I've run across a lot of websites that talk about
>>> using
>>> a flv player.  As macs seam to be gaining popularity I don't  
>>> want to
>>> put something on my website that exclused people just because  
>>> they
>>> aren't using internet explorer.  I'll appreciate any help I  
>>> can get.
>>> thank you, Max
>>>
>>>
>
>
>
>




>>
>>
>>
>
> >


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Re: flash player question

2009-07-02 Thread Maxwell Ivey Jr.
well heck;  it plays ok in safari.  wonder what i did wrong.  Thanks  
for letting me know, Max
On Jul 2, 2009, at 10:55 AM, Alex Jurgensen wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Windows can't play this. Neither can Linux.
>
> Regards,
> Alex,
>
>
> On 2-Jul-09, at 8:29 AM, Maxwell Ivey Jr. wrote:
>
>> Hello;  Thanks for that.  I wish i had known, but the stuff i was  
>> reading on the web was talking about mp4 as if it wouldn't play in  
>> quicktime.  Got any suggestions for how i create a download link to  
>> go with the streaming one?  Thanks again, Max
>> On Jul 2, 2009, at 10:14 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:
>>
>>> Quicktime can play mp4 files just fine. The example I gave below  
>>> is from a working site with mp4 video embedded on it.
>>>
>>> CB
>>>
>>> Maxwell Ivey Jr. wrote:

 Hello;  This is pretty much what I had come around to.  I don't  
 like
 the idea of running something on my site that I can't use  
 myself.  I
 finally decided to search for a program that would convert my mp4
 files to mov for quicktime. Turns out vlc which is free did the  
 trick
 very nicely.  Now, I have the file and the player embedded on my  
 site,
 but I'm not sure how well its working.  would appreciate it if  
 someone
 would check the site and click on the watch video and tell me what
 they think.  Still needs some tweeking i believe.  Thanks, Max
 On Jul 2, 2009, at 10:00 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:


> Flash works fine but is not accessible in Mac browsers. It has  
> some
> accessibility on Windows with Jaws (dunno about WindowEyes) but  
> even
> then it has to have been coded with labeled buttons and such.  
> HTML5
> supports a new video tag which should be accessible but I haven't
> tried
> that out. What I have done is used quicktime to embed video in the
> page
> and then made HTML links to start and stop it. Here is a snippet  
> of
> code
> which does this:
>
>  codebase="http://www.apple.com/qtactivex/qtplugin.cab"; width="335"
> height="312" id="movie2">
>
> value="/videos/accessibility/JawsFormGoodMarkupQT.smil">
>
> qtsrc="/videos/accessibility/JawsFormGoodMarkupQT.smil"
> autoplay="false"
> width="335" height="312"
> pluginspage="http://www.apple.com/quicktime/download/";
> enablejavascript="true" name="movie2">
> 
> 
> Play  
> good
> form
> markup video
> Stop  
> good
> form
> markup video
> 
>
> You probably could do something similar for flash but the video  
> player
> you use would need to enable control by javascript.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> CB
>
> Maxwell Ivey Jr. wrote:
>
>> Hello List;  I need to know if there is a definitive answer about
>> whether or not flash players and their files will play on a  
>> mac.  The
>> reason for this has to do with my website.  I'm wanting to add a
>> video, and everything I read seams to be about using some sort  
>> of a
>> flash player.  I've run across a lot of websites that talk about
>> using
>> a flv player.  As macs seam to be gaining popularity I don't  
>> want to
>> put something on my website that exclused people just because  
>> they
>> aren't using internet explorer.  I'll appreciate any help I can  
>> get.
>> thank you, Max
>>
>>




>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>
> >


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Re: flash player question

2009-07-02 Thread Chris Blouch
With the current QuickTime it works fine in Windows. I was using QT 
mainly because I needed to put captions in the video and html controls 
on the page. I also wanted to use mp4 for it's smaller size/higher 
quality. My sample code links in a SMIL file for captions. QT has most 
of the basic controls accessible via Javascript so I could make links to 
toggle audio, captions and playback. This calls were

document.movie1.Play()
document.movie1.Stop()
document.movie1.SetMute(muted)
document.movie1.SetTrackEnabled(2,caption) - caption is either true or false

where the embed tag for the quicktime sets the ID to be 'movie1'

CB

Alex Jurgensen wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Windows can't play this. Neither can Linux.
>
> Regards,
> Alex,
>
>
> On 2-Jul-09, at 8:29 AM, Maxwell Ivey Jr. wrote:
>
>> Hello;  Thanks for that.  I wish i had known, but the stuff i was 
>> reading on the web was talking about mp4 as if it wouldn't play in 
>> quicktime.  Got any suggestions for how i create a download link to 
>> go with the streaming one?  Thanks again, Max 
>> On Jul 2, 2009, at 10:14 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:
>>
>>> Quicktime can play mp4 files just fine. The example I gave below is 
>>> from a working site with mp4 video embedded on it.
>>>
>>> CB
>>>
>>> Maxwell Ivey Jr. wrote:
 Hello;  This is pretty much what I had come around to.  I don't like  
 the idea of running something on my site that I can't use myself.  I  
 finally decided to search for a program that would convert my mp4  
 files to mov for quicktime. Turns out vlc which is free did the trick  
 very nicely.  Now, I have the file and the player embedded on my site,  
 but I'm not sure how well its working.  would appreciate it if someone  
 would check the site and click on the watch video and tell me what  
 they think.  Still needs some tweeking i believe.  Thanks, Max
 On Jul 2, 2009, at 10:00 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:

   
> Flash works fine but is not accessible in Mac browsers. It has some
> accessibility on Windows with Jaws (dunno about WindowEyes) but even
> then it has to have been coded with labeled buttons and such. HTML5
> supports a new video tag which should be accessible but I haven't  
> tried
> that out. What I have done is used quicktime to embed video in the  
> page
> and then made HTML links to start and stop it. Here is a snippet of  
> code
> which does this:
>
>  codebase="http://www.apple.com/qtactivex/qtplugin.cab"; width="335"
> height="312" id="movie2">
>
> value="/videos/accessibility/JawsFormGoodMarkupQT.smil">
>
> qtsrc="/videos/accessibility/JawsFormGoodMarkupQT.smil"  
> autoplay="false"
> width="335" height="312"
> pluginspage="http://www.apple.com/quicktime/download/";
> enablejavascript="true" name="movie2">
> 
> 
> Play good  
> form
> markup video
> Stop good  
> form
> markup video
> 
>
> You probably could do something similar for flash but the video player
> you use would need to enable control by javascript.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> CB
>
> Maxwell Ivey Jr. wrote:
> 
>> Hello List;  I need to know if there is a definitive answer about
>> whether or not flash players and their files will play on a mac.  The
>> reason for this has to do with my website.  I'm wanting to add a
>> video, and everything I read seams to be about using some sort of a
>> flash player.  I've run across a lot of websites that talk about  
>> using
>> a flv player.  As macs seam to be gaining popularity I don't want to
>> put something on my website that exclused people just because they
>> aren't using internet explorer.  I'll appreciate any help I can get.
>> thank you, Max
>>
>>   



   
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>
> >

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Re: flash player question

2009-07-02 Thread Chris Blouch
I think you just make the href point to the mp4, but it depends on the 
user's browser since it may notice the file ending and try to shunt the 
file to a media player.

CB

Maxwell Ivey Jr. wrote:
> Hello;  Thanks for that.  I wish i had known, but the stuff i was 
> reading on the web was talking about mp4 as if it wouldn't play in 
> quicktime.  Got any suggestions for how i create a download link to go 
> with the streaming one?  Thanks again, Max 
> On Jul 2, 2009, at 10:14 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:
>
>> Quicktime can play mp4 files just fine. The example I gave below is 
>> from a working site with mp4 video embedded on it.
>>
>> CB
>>
>> Maxwell Ivey Jr. wrote:
>>> Hello;  This is pretty much what I had come around to.  I don't like  
>>> the idea of running something on my site that I can't use myself.  I  
>>> finally decided to search for a program that would convert my mp4  
>>> files to mov for quicktime. Turns out vlc which is free did the trick  
>>> very nicely.  Now, I have the file and the player embedded on my site,  
>>> but I'm not sure how well its working.  would appreciate it if someone  
>>> would check the site and click on the watch video and tell me what  
>>> they think.  Still needs some tweeking i believe.  Thanks, Max
>>> On Jul 2, 2009, at 10:00 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:
>>>
>>>   
 Flash works fine but is not accessible in Mac browsers. It has some
 accessibility on Windows with Jaws (dunno about WindowEyes) but even
 then it has to have been coded with labeled buttons and such. HTML5
 supports a new video tag which should be accessible but I haven't  
 tried
 that out. What I have done is used quicktime to embed video in the  
 page
 and then made HTML links to start and stop it. Here is a snippet of  
 code
 which does this:

 >>> codebase="http://www.apple.com/qtactivex/qtplugin.cab"; width="335"
 height="312" id="movie2">

>>> value="/videos/accessibility/JawsFormGoodMarkupQT.smil">

>>> qtsrc="/videos/accessibility/JawsFormGoodMarkupQT.smil"  
 autoplay="false"
 width="335" height="312"
 pluginspage="http://www.apple.com/quicktime/download/";
 enablejavascript="true" name="movie2">
 
 
 Play good  
 form
 markup video
 Stop good  
 form
 markup video
 

 You probably could do something similar for flash but the video player
 you use would need to enable control by javascript.

 Hope this helps.

 CB

 Maxwell Ivey Jr. wrote:
 
> Hello List;  I need to know if there is a definitive answer about
> whether or not flash players and their files will play on a mac.  The
> reason for this has to do with my website.  I'm wanting to add a
> video, and everything I read seams to be about using some sort of a
> flash player.  I've run across a lot of websites that talk about  
> using
> a flv player.  As macs seam to be gaining popularity I don't want to
> put something on my website that exclused people just because they
> aren't using internet explorer.  I'll appreciate any help I can get.
> thank you, Max
>
>   
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>   
>>
>>
>> >>

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Re: flash player question

2009-07-02 Thread Alex Jurgensen
Hi,

Windows can't play this. Neither can Linux.

Regards,
Alex,


On 2-Jul-09, at 8:29 AM, Maxwell Ivey Jr. wrote:

> Hello;  Thanks for that.  I wish i had known, but the stuff i was  
> reading on the web was talking about mp4 as if it wouldn't play in  
> quicktime.  Got any suggestions for how i create a download link to  
> go with the streaming one?  Thanks again, Max
> On Jul 2, 2009, at 10:14 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:
>
>> Quicktime can play mp4 files just fine. The example I gave below is  
>> from a working site with mp4 video embedded on it.
>>
>> CB
>>
>> Maxwell Ivey Jr. wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello;  This is pretty much what I had come around to.  I don't like
>>> the idea of running something on my site that I can't use myself.  I
>>> finally decided to search for a program that would convert my mp4
>>> files to mov for quicktime. Turns out vlc which is free did the  
>>> trick
>>> very nicely.  Now, I have the file and the player embedded on my  
>>> site,
>>> but I'm not sure how well its working.  would appreciate it if  
>>> someone
>>> would check the site and click on the watch video and tell me what
>>> they think.  Still needs some tweeking i believe.  Thanks, Max
>>> On Jul 2, 2009, at 10:00 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:
>>>
>>>
 Flash works fine but is not accessible in Mac browsers. It has some
 accessibility on Windows with Jaws (dunno about WindowEyes) but  
 even
 then it has to have been coded with labeled buttons and such. HTML5
 supports a new video tag which should be accessible but I haven't
 tried
 that out. What I have done is used quicktime to embed video in the
 page
 and then made HTML links to start and stop it. Here is a snippet of
 code
 which does this:

 >>> codebase="http://www.apple.com/qtactivex/qtplugin.cab"; width="335"
 height="312" id="movie2">

>>> value="/videos/accessibility/JawsFormGoodMarkupQT.smil">

>>> qtsrc="/videos/accessibility/JawsFormGoodMarkupQT.smil"
 autoplay="false"
 width="335" height="312"
 pluginspage="http://www.apple.com/quicktime/download/";
 enablejavascript="true" name="movie2">
 
 
 Play good
 form
 markup video
 Stop good
 form
 markup video
 

 You probably could do something similar for flash but the video  
 player
 you use would need to enable control by javascript.

 Hope this helps.

 CB

 Maxwell Ivey Jr. wrote:

> Hello List;  I need to know if there is a definitive answer about
> whether or not flash players and their files will play on a  
> mac.  The
> reason for this has to do with my website.  I'm wanting to add a
> video, and everything I read seams to be about using some sort  
> of a
> flash player.  I've run across a lot of websites that talk about
> using
> a flv player.  As macs seam to be gaining popularity I don't  
> want to
> put something on my website that exclused people just because they
> aren't using internet explorer.  I'll appreciate any help I can  
> get.
> thank you, Max
>
>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> >>


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Re: flash player question

2009-07-02 Thread Maxwell Ivey Jr.
Hello;  Thanks for that.  I wish i had known, but the stuff i was  
reading on the web was talking about mp4 as if it wouldn't play in  
quicktime.  Got any suggestions for how i create a download link to go  
with the streaming one?  Thanks again, Max
On Jul 2, 2009, at 10:14 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:

> Quicktime can play mp4 files just fine. The example I gave below is  
> from a working site with mp4 video embedded on it.
>
> CB
>
> Maxwell Ivey Jr. wrote:
>>
>> Hello;  This is pretty much what I had come around to.  I don't like
>> the idea of running something on my site that I can't use myself.  I
>> finally decided to search for a program that would convert my mp4
>> files to mov for quicktime. Turns out vlc which is free did the trick
>> very nicely.  Now, I have the file and the player embedded on my  
>> site,
>> but I'm not sure how well its working.  would appreciate it if  
>> someone
>> would check the site and click on the watch video and tell me what
>> they think.  Still needs some tweeking i believe.  Thanks, Max
>> On Jul 2, 2009, at 10:00 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Flash works fine but is not accessible in Mac browsers. It has some
>>> accessibility on Windows with Jaws (dunno about WindowEyes) but even
>>> then it has to have been coded with labeled buttons and such. HTML5
>>> supports a new video tag which should be accessible but I haven't
>>> tried
>>> that out. What I have done is used quicktime to embed video in the
>>> page
>>> and then made HTML links to start and stop it. Here is a snippet of
>>> code
>>> which does this:
>>>
>>> >> codebase="http://www.apple.com/qtactivex/qtplugin.cab"; width="335"
>>> height="312" id="movie2">
>>>
>>>>> value="/videos/accessibility/JawsFormGoodMarkupQT.smil">
>>>
>>>>> qtsrc="/videos/accessibility/JawsFormGoodMarkupQT.smil"
>>> autoplay="false"
>>> width="335" height="312"
>>> pluginspage="http://www.apple.com/quicktime/download/";
>>> enablejavascript="true" name="movie2">
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Play good
>>> form
>>> markup video
>>> Stop good
>>> form
>>> markup video
>>> 
>>>
>>> You probably could do something similar for flash but the video  
>>> player
>>> you use would need to enable control by javascript.
>>>
>>> Hope this helps.
>>>
>>> CB
>>>
>>> Maxwell Ivey Jr. wrote:
>>>
 Hello List;  I need to know if there is a definitive answer about
 whether or not flash players and their files will play on a mac.   
 The
 reason for this has to do with my website.  I'm wanting to add a
 video, and everything I read seams to be about using some sort of a
 flash player.  I've run across a lot of websites that talk about
 using
 a flv player.  As macs seam to be gaining popularity I don't want  
 to
 put something on my website that exclused people just because they
 aren't using internet explorer.  I'll appreciate any help I can  
 get.
 thank you, Max


>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> >


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Re: flash player question

2009-07-02 Thread Chris Blouch
Quicktime can play mp4 files just fine. The example I gave below is from 
a working site with mp4 video embedded on it.

CB

Maxwell Ivey Jr. wrote:
> Hello;  This is pretty much what I had come around to.  I don't like  
> the idea of running something on my site that I can't use myself.  I  
> finally decided to search for a program that would convert my mp4  
> files to mov for quicktime. Turns out vlc which is free did the trick  
> very nicely.  Now, I have the file and the player embedded on my site,  
> but I'm not sure how well its working.  would appreciate it if someone  
> would check the site and click on the watch video and tell me what  
> they think.  Still needs some tweeking i believe.  Thanks, Max
> On Jul 2, 2009, at 10:00 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:
>
>   
>> Flash works fine but is not accessible in Mac browsers. It has some
>> accessibility on Windows with Jaws (dunno about WindowEyes) but even
>> then it has to have been coded with labeled buttons and such. HTML5
>> supports a new video tag which should be accessible but I haven't  
>> tried
>> that out. What I have done is used quicktime to embed video in the  
>> page
>> and then made HTML links to start and stop it. Here is a snippet of  
>> code
>> which does this:
>>
>> > codebase="http://www.apple.com/qtactivex/qtplugin.cab"; width="335"
>> height="312" id="movie2">
>>
>>> value="/videos/accessibility/JawsFormGoodMarkupQT.smil">
>>
>>> qtsrc="/videos/accessibility/JawsFormGoodMarkupQT.smil"  
>> autoplay="false"
>> width="335" height="312"
>> pluginspage="http://www.apple.com/quicktime/download/";
>> enablejavascript="true" name="movie2">
>> 
>> 
>> Play good  
>> form
>> markup video
>> Stop good  
>> form
>> markup video
>> 
>>
>> You probably could do something similar for flash but the video player
>> you use would need to enable control by javascript.
>>
>> Hope this helps.
>>
>> CB
>>
>> Maxwell Ivey Jr. wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello List;  I need to know if there is a definitive answer about
>>> whether or not flash players and their files will play on a mac.  The
>>> reason for this has to do with my website.  I'm wanting to add a
>>> video, and everything I read seams to be about using some sort of a
>>> flash player.  I've run across a lot of websites that talk about  
>>> using
>>> a flv player.  As macs seam to be gaining popularity I don't want to
>>> put something on my website that exclused people just because they
>>> aren't using internet explorer.  I'll appreciate any help I can get.
>>> thank you, Max
>>>
>>>   
>
>
> >
>   

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Re: flash player question

2009-07-02 Thread Maxwell Ivey Jr.

Hello;  This is pretty much what I had come around to.  I don't like  
the idea of running something on my site that I can't use myself.  I  
finally decided to search for a program that would convert my mp4  
files to mov for quicktime. Turns out vlc which is free did the trick  
very nicely.  Now, I have the file and the player embedded on my site,  
but I'm not sure how well its working.  would appreciate it if someone  
would check the site and click on the watch video and tell me what  
they think.  Still needs some tweeking i believe.  Thanks, Max
On Jul 2, 2009, at 10:00 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:

>
> Flash works fine but is not accessible in Mac browsers. It has some
> accessibility on Windows with Jaws (dunno about WindowEyes) but even
> then it has to have been coded with labeled buttons and such. HTML5
> supports a new video tag which should be accessible but I haven't  
> tried
> that out. What I have done is used quicktime to embed video in the  
> page
> and then made HTML links to start and stop it. Here is a snippet of  
> code
> which does this:
>
>  codebase="http://www.apple.com/qtactivex/qtplugin.cab"; width="335"
> height="312" id="movie2">
>
> value="/videos/accessibility/JawsFormGoodMarkupQT.smil">
>
> qtsrc="/videos/accessibility/JawsFormGoodMarkupQT.smil"  
> autoplay="false"
> width="335" height="312"
> pluginspage="http://www.apple.com/quicktime/download/";
> enablejavascript="true" name="movie2">
> 
> 
> Play good  
> form
> markup video
> Stop good  
> form
> markup video
> 
>
> You probably could do something similar for flash but the video player
> you use would need to enable control by javascript.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> CB
>
> Maxwell Ivey Jr. wrote:
>> Hello List;  I need to know if there is a definitive answer about
>> whether or not flash players and their files will play on a mac.  The
>> reason for this has to do with my website.  I'm wanting to add a
>> video, and everything I read seams to be about using some sort of a
>> flash player.  I've run across a lot of websites that talk about  
>> using
>> a flv player.  As macs seam to be gaining popularity I don't want to
>> put something on my website that exclused people just because they
>> aren't using internet explorer.  I'll appreciate any help I can get.
>> thank you, Max
>>
>>>
>>
>
> >


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Re: flash player question

2009-07-02 Thread Chris Blouch

Flash works fine but is not accessible in Mac browsers. It has some 
accessibility on Windows with Jaws (dunno about WindowEyes) but even 
then it has to have been coded with labeled buttons and such. HTML5 
supports a new video tag which should be accessible but I haven't tried 
that out. What I have done is used quicktime to embed video in the page 
and then made HTML links to start and stop it. Here is a snippet of code 
which does this:

http://www.apple.com/qtactivex/qtplugin.cab"; width="335" 
height="312" id="movie2">



http://www.apple.com/quicktime/download/"; 
enablejavascript="true" name="movie2">


Play good form 
markup video
Stop good form 
markup video


You probably could do something similar for flash but the video player 
you use would need to enable control by javascript.

Hope this helps.

CB

Maxwell Ivey Jr. wrote:
> Hello List;  I need to know if there is a definitive answer about  
> whether or not flash players and their files will play on a mac.  The  
> reason for this has to do with my website.  I'm wanting to add a  
> video, and everything I read seams to be about using some sort of a  
> flash player.  I've run across a lot of websites that talk about using  
> a flv player.  As macs seam to be gaining popularity I don't want to  
> put something on my website that exclused people just because they  
> aren't using internet explorer.  I'll appreciate any help I can get.   
> thank you, Max 
>
> >
>   

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Re: flash player question

2009-07-02 Thread Alex Jurgensen

Hi,
Max:

Yes, they will. However, use Video For Everybody and avoid the issue  
all together. Did you not receive my private E-mail on the matter?

Regards,
Alex,


On 2-Jul-09, at 12:16 AM, Maxwell Ivey Jr. wrote:

>
> Hello List;  I need to know if there is a definitive answer about
> whether or not flash players and their files will play on a mac.  The
> reason for this has to do with my website.  I'm wanting to add a
> video, and everything I read seams to be about using some sort of a
> flash player.  I've run across a lot of websites that talk about using
> a flv player.  As macs seam to be gaining popularity I don't want to
> put something on my website that exclused people just because they
> aren't using internet explorer.  I'll appreciate any help I can get.
> thank you, Max
>
> >


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