Re: Installing Bootcamp On MBA: Any Tips For Success

[Eileens Misrahi]

Hey there,

Thanks for piping in. You answered a question I had about when I insert the Win 
CD and Win 8 disk. Still out and about, so I might not be able to catch you on 
Zello until tomorrow. Thanks again. Oh yeah, I know I will need to give up a 
little bit of my precious disk space, but I think I will need all of the RAM 
and processor speed. That's why I decided to take this route for now. 

Cheers,
Eileen

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On Feb 16, 2014, at 2:59 PM, Kayaker  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Yes. Find me on zello.
> 
> But you need to assign a part of your precious internal SSD to be dedicated 
> to Windows. There is no getting around this to my knowledge. You can 
> certainly use your thumb drive as extra storage, but windows needs it's own 
> partition on your internal drive. 
> 
> As for the CD ROM, it shouldn't matter. Do connect the drive prior to the 
> process, but no need to pre install the windows cd into it. And yes, you will 
> need sighted assistance to install windows via bootcamp. Don't trust the 
> podcast and counting key presses. You don't want to mess around with this.
> 
> --K
> 
> 
> On Feb 15, 2014, at 7:00 PM, Eileen Misrahi  wrote:
> 
>> Hello Everyone, 
>> 
>> I have made the decision to use Bootcamp and need some expert advise. I have 
>> listened to the podcast by Michael Hanson, Applevis editor. I do have some 
>> questions that those who have done this procedure in the past can answer. 
>> 
>> 1. For the download for the Apple support software, can  this install on my 
>> external Window partition side or does it need to go on a thumb drive? 
>> 2. Of course I will do a Timemachine backup before starting the Bootcamp 
>> installation. However, should I use a disk cloner software to backup the 
>> entire OS to my external drive too? 
>> 3. I have a single disk copy of windows 8. Do I connect the optical  drive 
>> before starting the Bootcamp Assist program with the Windows 8 disk 
>> inserted? 
>> 
>> I have been reading some different websites on the Internet but it's 
>> confusing me more on how to go about getting Windows 8 on the MBA. I would 
>> appreciate any specific advise and tips to utilize Bootcamp and get this up 
>> and running. I'm not worried about installing Windows 8 because I have 
>> sighted assistance if need be. There is also a tutorial on how to install 
>> Windows without sight on applevis. 
>> 
>> thanks for reading this somewhat long email and pointing me in the right 
>> direction on how to be successful with this task.
>> 
>> Best, 
>> Eileen 
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Re: Installing Bootcamp On MBA: Any Tips For Success

[Kayaker]

Hi,

Yes. Find me on zello.

But you need to assign a part of your precious internal SSD to be dedicated to 
Windows. There is no getting around this to my knowledge. You can certainly use 
your thumb drive as extra storage, but windows needs it's own partition on your 
internal drive. 

As for the CD ROM, it shouldn't matter. Do connect the drive prior to the 
process, but no need to pre install the windows cd into it. And yes, you will 
need sighted assistance to install windows via bootcamp. Don't trust the 
podcast and counting key presses. You don't want to mess around with this.

--K


On Feb 15, 2014, at 7:00 PM, Eileen Misrahi  wrote:

> Hello Everyone, 
> 
> I have made the decision to use Bootcamp and need some expert advise. I have 
> listened to the podcast by Michael Hanson, Applevis editor. I do have some 
> questions that those who have done this procedure in the past can answer. 
> 
> 1. For the download for the Apple support software, can  this install on my 
> external Window partition side or does it need to go on a thumb drive? 
> 2. Of course I will do a Timemachine backup before starting the Bootcamp 
> installation. However, should I use a disk cloner software to backup the 
> entire OS to my external drive too? 
> 3. I have a single disk copy of windows 8. Do I connect the optical  drive 
> before starting the Bootcamp Assist program with the Windows 8 disk inserted? 
> 
> I have been reading some different websites on the Internet but it's 
> confusing me more on how to go about getting Windows 8 on the MBA. I would 
> appreciate any specific advise and tips to utilize Bootcamp and get this up 
> and running. I'm not worried about installing Windows 8 because I have 
> sighted assistance if need be. There is also a tutorial on how to install 
> Windows without sight on applevis. 
> 
> thanks for reading this somewhat long email and pointing me in the right 
> direction on how to be successful with this task.
> 
> Best, 
> Eileen 
> 
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Re: installing Bootcamp

[Chris Blouch]

I was doing this for somebody else to run their QuickBooks on so I 
wanted to make sure everything was legit. I didn't know about the 
upgrade installer trick but it turned out to be slightly cheaper getting 
a full version off Amazon than an upgrade directly from Microsoft. 
Anyway, it's all working now.


CB

On 12/30/13 9:12 AM, Bill Holton wrote:

You can use the upgrade version.  The way to do it, when you first install, 
skip the activation step.  You will then have an unregistered version of 
Windows on your computer.  Then, insert your upgrade disk again and run the 
setup .exe.  This is where you will do the  Windows upgrade.   You already have 
a version of Windows on your machine, and this time you can enter your license 
number and all will be fine.  MS did this so you could actually install a clean 
copy of Windows.


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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Chris Blouch
Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2013 11:01 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: installing Bootcamp

When I was poking around the Windows store all I could find were
upgrades. Either Windows 8.1 from Windows 7 or Windows 8 from any other
version. I think I found in one of the FAQs that if you wanted to run it
in a virtual machine (or on a machine that never had Windows before) you
had to buy the system builder version. I found the 8.1 System Builder
for $97 on Amazon.

CB

On 12/28/13 10:33 PM, Geoff Stephens wrote:

All you need is a full version of Windows that is not an upgrade version. The 
system builder version is not necessary and costs a lot more.

On Dec 28, 2013, at 9:25 PM, Chris Blouch  wrote:

What's wrong with the system builder flavor of Windows. I thought that's what 
you needed if you're not upgrading from another version of Windows.

CB

On 12/28/13 7:45 PM, Geoff Stephens wrote:

You can always just call the store if you can’t find out how to get the ISO 
online.  But don’t let them sell you a system builder version of Windows.  They 
might try to do that.  You can purchase the Windows 8 ISO and they will e-mail 
you a key and a download link.

I don’t have the phone number handy right now.
On Dec 28, 2013, at 7:00 PM, Byron J. Lee  wrote:

Does Microsoft offer the ability to download the ISO along with a code rather 
than a CD, and if so, what's the link to purchase and download said ISO?

On 12/28/2013 4:51 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote:

Yu can download an ISO image, and the boot camp set up utility will create a 
bootable flash drive that is used for the install.
On Dec 27, 2013, at 6:36 PM, Byron J. Lee  wrote:


I actually have a question regarding installing Windows 7 on a Macbook Air. How 
do you install Win7 if you don't have a CD player? Can you download a file from 
Microsoft? Is there a step-by-step guide on doing it without a CD?

On 12/27/2013 1:14 PM, Bill Holton wrote:

Hi.
I know you cannot bootcamp a Mac to install Windows 7 without sighted help.  
But what about Windows 8?  Canyou get Narrator to start up at installation?  
Also, has anyone tried using the talking Windows 7 installer to Bootcamp their 
Mac?  Thanks much.
Bill
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Re: installing Bootcamp

[Chris Blouch]

Right. The $97 one I got from Amazon was an original sealed in a package 
so it seems to have been legit. At least it installed in VMWare with no 
issues.


CB

On 12/29/13 12:34 AM, Geoff Stephens wrote:

I don’t want to go digging around to find documentation for why you don’t have 
to have a system builder version.  It’s everywhere in the Apple Bootcamp 
documentation.
It is absolutely not necessary.

Also, the reason I recommended calling is exactly for the reasons you mention.  
It is hard to find.  I encountered all the same with regard to only finding 
upgrades on the online store.

If you want to go with a system builder version fromAmazon, go for it!  I had 
to purchase two Windows versions recently for two different Macbook Airs and 
one of those I went with was a full version of Windows via eBay for $39 I 
think.  But I did have to resort to Microsoft for the other one.  And you run 
the risk from purchasing from an individual on eBay that the key will be sold 
to multiple individuals and become problematic after it is activated too many 
times.

You can call the Microsoft Store if you want a full version of Windows 8 for a 
somewhat reasonable price, $119 in my case, that you can be assured is a viable 
copy of Windows without paying the Microsoft price of $199 for the system 
builder version last time I checked.







On Dec 28, 2013, at 11:01 PM, Chris Blouch  wrote:

When I was poking around the Windows store all I could find were upgrades. 
Either Windows 8.1 from Windows 7 or Windows 8 from any other version. I think 
I found in one of the FAQs that if you wanted to run it in a virtual machine 
(or on a machine that never had Windows before) you had to buy the system 
builder version. I found the 8.1 System Builder for $97 on Amazon.

CB

On 12/28/13 10:33 PM, Geoff Stephens wrote:

All you need is a full version of Windows that is not an upgrade version. The 
system builder version is not necessary and costs a lot more.

On Dec 28, 2013, at 9:25 PM, Chris Blouch  wrote:

What's wrong with the system builder flavor of Windows. I thought that's what 
you needed if you're not upgrading from another version of Windows.

CB

On 12/28/13 7:45 PM, Geoff Stephens wrote:

You can always just call the store if you can’t find out how to get the ISO 
online.  But don’t let them sell you a system builder version of Windows.  They 
might try to do that.  You can purchase the Windows 8 ISO and they will e-mail 
you a key and a download link.

I don’t have the phone number handy right now.
On Dec 28, 2013, at 7:00 PM, Byron J. Lee  wrote:

Does Microsoft offer the ability to download the ISO along with a code rather 
than a CD, and if so, what's the link to purchase and download said ISO?

On 12/28/2013 4:51 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote:

Yu can download an ISO image, and the boot camp set up utility will create a 
bootable flash drive that is used for the install.
On Dec 27, 2013, at 6:36 PM, Byron J. Lee  wrote:


I actually have a question regarding installing Windows 7 on a Macbook Air. How 
do you install Win7 if you don't have a CD player? Can you download a file from 
Microsoft? Is there a step-by-step guide on doing it without a CD?

On 12/27/2013 1:14 PM, Bill Holton wrote:

Hi.
I know you cannot bootcamp a Mac to install Windows 7 without sighted help.  
But what about Windows 8?  Canyou get Narrator to start up at installation?  
Also, has anyone tried using the talking Windows 7 installer to Bootcamp their 
Mac?  Thanks much.
Bill
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Re: installing Bootcamp

[Geoff Stephens]

I suspected something like this might be possible but didn’t want to try it at 
the time I was installing Bootcamp because I had a limited amount of assistance 
and needed to get it done quickly.  Now I have abandoned Bootcamp and only use 
a VM.


On Dec 30, 2013, at 9:12 AM, Bill Holton  wrote:

You can use the upgrade version.  The way to do it, when you first install, 
skip the activation step.  You will then have an unregistered version of 
Windows on your computer.  Then, insert your upgrade disk again and run the 
setup .exe.  This is where you will do the  Windows upgrade.   You already have 
a version of Windows on your machine, and this time you can enter your license 
number and all will be fine.  MS did this so you could actually install a clean 
copy of Windows.


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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Chris Blouch
Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2013 11:01 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: installing Bootcamp

When I was poking around the Windows store all I could find were 
upgrades. Either Windows 8.1 from Windows 7 or Windows 8 from any other 
version. I think I found in one of the FAQs that if you wanted to run it 
in a virtual machine (or on a machine that never had Windows before) you 
had to buy the system builder version. I found the 8.1 System Builder 
for $97 on Amazon.

CB

On 12/28/13 10:33 PM, Geoff Stephens wrote:
> All you need is a full version of Windows that is not an upgrade version. The 
> system builder version is not necessary and costs a lot more.
> 
> On Dec 28, 2013, at 9:25 PM, Chris Blouch  wrote:
> 
> What's wrong with the system builder flavor of Windows. I thought that's what 
> you needed if you're not upgrading from another version of Windows.
> 
> CB
> 
> On 12/28/13 7:45 PM, Geoff Stephens wrote:
>> You can always just call the store if you can’t find out how to get the ISO 
>> online.  But don’t let them sell you a system builder version of Windows.  
>> They might try to do that.  You can purchase the Windows 8 ISO and they will 
>> e-mail you a key and a download link.
>> 
>> I don’t have the phone number handy right now.
>> On Dec 28, 2013, at 7:00 PM, Byron J. Lee  wrote:
>> 
>> Does Microsoft offer the ability to download the ISO along with a code 
>> rather than a CD, and if so, what's the link to purchase and download said 
>> ISO?
>> 
>> On 12/28/2013 4:51 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote:
>>> Yu can download an ISO image, and the boot camp set up utility will create 
>>> a bootable flash drive that is used for the install.
>>> On Dec 27, 2013, at 6:36 PM, Byron J. Lee  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I actually have a question regarding installing Windows 7 on a Macbook 
>>>> Air. How do you install Win7 if you don't have a CD player? Can you 
>>>> download a file from Microsoft? Is there a step-by-step guide on doing it 
>>>> without a CD?
>>>> 
>>>> On 12/27/2013 1:14 PM, Bill Holton wrote:
>>>>> Hi.
>>>>> I know you cannot bootcamp a Mac to install Windows 7 without sighted 
>>>>> help.  But what about Windows 8?  Canyou get Narrator to start up at 
>>>>> installation?  Also, has anyone tried using the talking Windows 7 
>>>>> installer to Bootcamp their Mac?  Thanks much.
>>>>> Bill
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RE: installing Bootcamp

[Bill Holton]

You can use the upgrade version.  The way to do it, when you first install, 
skip the activation step.  You will then have an unregistered version of 
Windows on your computer.  Then, insert your upgrade disk again and run the 
setup .exe.  This is where you will do the  Windows upgrade.   You already have 
a version of Windows on your machine, and this time you can enter your license 
number and all will be fine.  MS did this so you could actually install a clean 
copy of Windows.


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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Chris Blouch
Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2013 11:01 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: installing Bootcamp

When I was poking around the Windows store all I could find were 
upgrades. Either Windows 8.1 from Windows 7 or Windows 8 from any other 
version. I think I found in one of the FAQs that if you wanted to run it 
in a virtual machine (or on a machine that never had Windows before) you 
had to buy the system builder version. I found the 8.1 System Builder 
for $97 on Amazon.

CB

On 12/28/13 10:33 PM, Geoff Stephens wrote:
> All you need is a full version of Windows that is not an upgrade version. The 
> system builder version is not necessary and costs a lot more.
>
> On Dec 28, 2013, at 9:25 PM, Chris Blouch  wrote:
>
> What's wrong with the system builder flavor of Windows. I thought that's what 
> you needed if you're not upgrading from another version of Windows.
>
> CB
>
> On 12/28/13 7:45 PM, Geoff Stephens wrote:
>> You can always just call the store if you can’t find out how to get the ISO 
>> online.  But don’t let them sell you a system builder version of Windows.  
>> They might try to do that.  You can purchase the Windows 8 ISO and they will 
>> e-mail you a key and a download link.
>>
>> I don’t have the phone number handy right now.
>> On Dec 28, 2013, at 7:00 PM, Byron J. Lee  wrote:
>>
>> Does Microsoft offer the ability to download the ISO along with a code 
>> rather than a CD, and if so, what's the link to purchase and download said 
>> ISO?
>>
>> On 12/28/2013 4:51 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote:
>>> Yu can download an ISO image, and the boot camp set up utility will create 
>>> a bootable flash drive that is used for the install.
>>> On Dec 27, 2013, at 6:36 PM, Byron J. Lee  wrote:
>>>
>>>> I actually have a question regarding installing Windows 7 on a Macbook 
>>>> Air. How do you install Win7 if you don't have a CD player? Can you 
>>>> download a file from Microsoft? Is there a step-by-step guide on doing it 
>>>> without a CD?
>>>>
>>>> On 12/27/2013 1:14 PM, Bill Holton wrote:
>>>>> Hi.
>>>>> I know you cannot bootcamp a Mac to install Windows 7 without sighted 
>>>>> help.  But what about Windows 8?  Canyou get Narrator to start up at 
>>>>> installation?  Also, has anyone tried using the talking Windows 7 
>>>>> installer to Bootcamp their Mac?  Thanks much.
>>>>> Bill
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Re: installing Bootcamp

[Geoff Stephens]

OEM Windows is not supposed to work for Bootcamp.  I can’t say whether this is 
truly the case but it’s what the documentation says.


On Dec 29, 2013, at 9:46 AM, Mike Arrigo  wrote:

It used to be that you could purchase an OEM copy of windows for a much cheaper 
price, but I’m not sure if that is still possible. The OEM version did not 
include tech support which really isn’t a big loss anyway.
On Dec 28, 2013, at 6:45 PM, Geoff Stephens  wrote:

> You can always just call the store if you can’t find out how to get the ISO 
> online.  But don’t let them sell you a system builder version of Windows.  
> They might try to do that.  You can purchase the Windows 8 ISO and they will 
> e-mail you a key and a download link.
> 
> I don’t have the phone number handy right now.
> On Dec 28, 2013, at 7:00 PM, Byron J. Lee  wrote:
> 
> Does Microsoft offer the ability to download the ISO along with a code rather 
> than a CD, and if so, what's the link to purchase and download said ISO?
> 
> On 12/28/2013 4:51 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote:
>> Yu can download an ISO image, and the boot camp set up utility will create a 
>> bootable flash drive that is used for the install.
>> On Dec 27, 2013, at 6:36 PM, Byron J. Lee  wrote:
>> 
>>> I actually have a question regarding installing Windows 7 on a Macbook Air. 
>>> How do you install Win7 if you don't have a CD player? Can you download a 
>>> file from Microsoft? Is there a step-by-step guide on doing it without a CD?
>>> 
>>> On 12/27/2013 1:14 PM, Bill Holton wrote:
 Hi.
 I know you cannot bootcamp a Mac to install Windows 7 without sighted 
 help.  But what about Windows 8?  Canyou get Narrator to start up at 
 installation?  Also, has anyone tried using the talking Windows 7 
 installer to Bootcamp their Mac?  Thanks much.
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Re: installing Bootcamp

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Why does Microsoft make getting an ISO and a key so dang hard? I would 
think they'd just make it one of the standard options on their website. 
Instead, I have to call a human being and give them my credit card over 
the phone so they can dig out some secret hard to find copy. That sounds 
kinda weird to me. Oh well, I will let you know what happens when I try 
to get a copy of Windows. I'll probably get Windows 7 because Win8 is 
getting a bit too visually difficult to use. For example, you can't 
increase the font in the Metro interface at all if your monitor's 
resolution isn't high enough.


On 12/29/2013 8:46 AM, Mike Arrigo wrote:

It used to be that you could purchase an OEM copy of windows for a much cheaper 
price, but I’m not sure if that is still possible. The OEM version did not 
include tech support which really isn’t a big loss anyway.
On Dec 28, 2013, at 6:45 PM, Geoff Stephens  wrote:


You can always just call the store if you can’t find out how to get the ISO 
online.  But don’t let them sell you a system builder version of Windows.  They 
might try to do that.  You can purchase the Windows 8 ISO and they will e-mail 
you a key and a download link.

I don’t have the phone number handy right now.
On Dec 28, 2013, at 7:00 PM, Byron J. Lee  wrote:

Does Microsoft offer the ability to download the ISO along with a code rather 
than a CD, and if so, what's the link to purchase and download said ISO?

On 12/28/2013 4:51 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote:

Yu can download an ISO image, and the boot camp set up utility will create a 
bootable flash drive that is used for the install.
On Dec 27, 2013, at 6:36 PM, Byron J. Lee  wrote:


I actually have a question regarding installing Windows 7 on a Macbook Air. How 
do you install Win7 if you don't have a CD player? Can you download a file from 
Microsoft? Is there a step-by-step guide on doing it without a CD?

On 12/27/2013 1:14 PM, Bill Holton wrote:

Hi.
I know you cannot bootcamp a Mac to install Windows 7 without sighted help.  
But what about Windows 8?  Canyou get Narrator to start up at installation?  
Also, has anyone tried using the talking Windows 7 installer to Bootcamp their 
Mac?  Thanks much.
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Re: installing Bootcamp

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It used to be that you could purchase an OEM copy of windows for a much cheaper 
price, but I’m not sure if that is still possible. The OEM version did not 
include tech support which really isn’t a big loss anyway.
On Dec 28, 2013, at 6:45 PM, Geoff Stephens  wrote:

> You can always just call the store if you can’t find out how to get the ISO 
> online.  But don’t let them sell you a system builder version of Windows.  
> They might try to do that.  You can purchase the Windows 8 ISO and they will 
> e-mail you a key and a download link.
> 
> I don’t have the phone number handy right now.
> On Dec 28, 2013, at 7:00 PM, Byron J. Lee  wrote:
> 
> Does Microsoft offer the ability to download the ISO along with a code rather 
> than a CD, and if so, what's the link to purchase and download said ISO?
> 
> On 12/28/2013 4:51 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote:
>> Yu can download an ISO image, and the boot camp set up utility will create a 
>> bootable flash drive that is used for the install.
>> On Dec 27, 2013, at 6:36 PM, Byron J. Lee  wrote:
>> 
>>> I actually have a question regarding installing Windows 7 on a Macbook Air. 
>>> How do you install Win7 if you don't have a CD player? Can you download a 
>>> file from Microsoft? Is there a step-by-step guide on doing it without a CD?
>>> 
>>> On 12/27/2013 1:14 PM, Bill Holton wrote:
 Hi.
 I know you cannot bootcamp a Mac to install Windows 7 without sighted 
 help.  But what about Windows 8?  Canyou get Narrator to start up at 
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Re: installing Bootcamp

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I don’t want to go digging around to find documentation for why you don’t have 
to have a system builder version.  It’s everywhere in the Apple Bootcamp 
documentation.
It is absolutely not necessary.

Also, the reason I recommended calling is exactly for the reasons you mention.  
It is hard to find.  I encountered all the same with regard to only finding 
upgrades on the online store.

If you want to go with a system builder version fromAmazon, go for it!  I had 
to purchase two Windows versions recently for two different Macbook Airs and 
one of those I went with was a full version of Windows via eBay for $39 I 
think.  But I did have to resort to Microsoft for the other one.  And you run 
the risk from purchasing from an individual on eBay that the key will be sold 
to multiple individuals and become problematic after it is activated too many 
times.

You can call the Microsoft Store if you want a full version of Windows 8 for a 
somewhat reasonable price, $119 in my case, that you can be assured is a viable 
copy of Windows without paying the Microsoft price of $199 for the system 
builder version last time I checked.







On Dec 28, 2013, at 11:01 PM, Chris Blouch  wrote:

When I was poking around the Windows store all I could find were upgrades. 
Either Windows 8.1 from Windows 7 or Windows 8 from any other version. I think 
I found in one of the FAQs that if you wanted to run it in a virtual machine 
(or on a machine that never had Windows before) you had to buy the system 
builder version. I found the 8.1 System Builder for $97 on Amazon.

CB

On 12/28/13 10:33 PM, Geoff Stephens wrote:
> All you need is a full version of Windows that is not an upgrade version. The 
> system builder version is not necessary and costs a lot more.
> 
> On Dec 28, 2013, at 9:25 PM, Chris Blouch  wrote:
> 
> What's wrong with the system builder flavor of Windows. I thought that's what 
> you needed if you're not upgrading from another version of Windows.
> 
> CB
> 
> On 12/28/13 7:45 PM, Geoff Stephens wrote:
>> You can always just call the store if you can’t find out how to get the ISO 
>> online.  But don’t let them sell you a system builder version of Windows.  
>> They might try to do that.  You can purchase the Windows 8 ISO and they will 
>> e-mail you a key and a download link.
>> 
>> I don’t have the phone number handy right now.
>> On Dec 28, 2013, at 7:00 PM, Byron J. Lee  wrote:
>> 
>> Does Microsoft offer the ability to download the ISO along with a code 
>> rather than a CD, and if so, what's the link to purchase and download said 
>> ISO?
>> 
>> On 12/28/2013 4:51 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote:
>>> Yu can download an ISO image, and the boot camp set up utility will create 
>>> a bootable flash drive that is used for the install.
>>> On Dec 27, 2013, at 6:36 PM, Byron J. Lee  wrote:
>>> 
 I actually have a question regarding installing Windows 7 on a Macbook 
 Air. How do you install Win7 if you don't have a CD player? Can you 
 download a file from Microsoft? Is there a step-by-step guide on doing it 
 without a CD?
 
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> Hi.
> I know you cannot bootcamp a Mac to install Windows 7 without sighted 
> help.  But what about Windows 8?  Canyou get Narrator to start up at 
> installation?  Also, has anyone tried using the talking Windows 7 
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Re: installing Bootcamp

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When I was poking around the Windows store all I could find were 
upgrades. Either Windows 8.1 from Windows 7 or Windows 8 from any other 
version. I think I found in one of the FAQs that if you wanted to run it 
in a virtual machine (or on a machine that never had Windows before) you 
had to buy the system builder version. I found the 8.1 System Builder 
for $97 on Amazon.


CB

On 12/28/13 10:33 PM, Geoff Stephens wrote:

All you need is a full version of Windows that is not an upgrade version. The 
system builder version is not necessary and costs a lot more.

On Dec 28, 2013, at 9:25 PM, Chris Blouch  wrote:

What's wrong with the system builder flavor of Windows. I thought that's what 
you needed if you're not upgrading from another version of Windows.

CB

On 12/28/13 7:45 PM, Geoff Stephens wrote:

You can always just call the store if you can’t find out how to get the ISO 
online.  But don’t let them sell you a system builder version of Windows.  They 
might try to do that.  You can purchase the Windows 8 ISO and they will e-mail 
you a key and a download link.

I don’t have the phone number handy right now.
On Dec 28, 2013, at 7:00 PM, Byron J. Lee  wrote:

Does Microsoft offer the ability to download the ISO along with a code rather 
than a CD, and if so, what's the link to purchase and download said ISO?

On 12/28/2013 4:51 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote:

Yu can download an ISO image, and the boot camp set up utility will create a 
bootable flash drive that is used for the install.
On Dec 27, 2013, at 6:36 PM, Byron J. Lee  wrote:


I actually have a question regarding installing Windows 7 on a Macbook Air. How 
do you install Win7 if you don't have a CD player? Can you download a file from 
Microsoft? Is there a step-by-step guide on doing it without a CD?

On 12/27/2013 1:14 PM, Bill Holton wrote:

Hi.
I know you cannot bootcamp a Mac to install Windows 7 without sighted help.  
But what about Windows 8?  Canyou get Narrator to start up at installation?  
Also, has anyone tried using the talking Windows 7 installer to Bootcamp their 
Mac?  Thanks much.
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Re: installing Bootcamp

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All you need is a full version of Windows that is not an upgrade version. The 
system builder version is not necessary and costs a lot more.

On Dec 28, 2013, at 9:25 PM, Chris Blouch  wrote:

What's wrong with the system builder flavor of Windows. I thought that's what 
you needed if you're not upgrading from another version of Windows.

CB

On 12/28/13 7:45 PM, Geoff Stephens wrote:
> You can always just call the store if you can’t find out how to get the ISO 
> online.  But don’t let them sell you a system builder version of Windows.  
> They might try to do that.  You can purchase the Windows 8 ISO and they will 
> e-mail you a key and a download link.
> 
> I don’t have the phone number handy right now.
> On Dec 28, 2013, at 7:00 PM, Byron J. Lee  wrote:
> 
> Does Microsoft offer the ability to download the ISO along with a code rather 
> than a CD, and if so, what's the link to purchase and download said ISO?
> 
> On 12/28/2013 4:51 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote:
>> Yu can download an ISO image, and the boot camp set up utility will create a 
>> bootable flash drive that is used for the install.
>> On Dec 27, 2013, at 6:36 PM, Byron J. Lee  wrote:
>> 
>>> I actually have a question regarding installing Windows 7 on a Macbook Air. 
>>> How do you install Win7 if you don't have a CD player? Can you download a 
>>> file from Microsoft? Is there a step-by-step guide on doing it without a CD?
>>> 
>>> On 12/27/2013 1:14 PM, Bill Holton wrote:
 Hi.
 I know you cannot bootcamp a Mac to install Windows 7 without sighted 
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Re: installing Bootcamp

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What's wrong with the system builder flavor of Windows. I thought that's 
what you needed if you're not upgrading from another version of Windows.


CB

On 12/28/13 7:45 PM, Geoff Stephens wrote:

You can always just call the store if you can’t find out how to get the ISO 
online.  But don’t let them sell you a system builder version of Windows.  They 
might try to do that.  You can purchase the Windows 8 ISO and they will e-mail 
you a key and a download link.

I don’t have the phone number handy right now.
On Dec 28, 2013, at 7:00 PM, Byron J. Lee  wrote:

Does Microsoft offer the ability to download the ISO along with a code rather 
than a CD, and if so, what's the link to purchase and download said ISO?

On 12/28/2013 4:51 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote:

Yu can download an ISO image, and the boot camp set up utility will create a 
bootable flash drive that is used for the install.
On Dec 27, 2013, at 6:36 PM, Byron J. Lee  wrote:


I actually have a question regarding installing Windows 7 on a Macbook Air. How 
do you install Win7 if you don't have a CD player? Can you download a file from 
Microsoft? Is there a step-by-step guide on doing it without a CD?

On 12/27/2013 1:14 PM, Bill Holton wrote:

Hi.
I know you cannot bootcamp a Mac to install Windows 7 without sighted help.  
But what about Windows 8?  Canyou get Narrator to start up at installation?  
Also, has anyone tried using the talking Windows 7 installer to Bootcamp their 
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Re: installing Bootcamp

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You can always just call the store if you can’t find out how to get the ISO 
online.  But don’t let them sell you a system builder version of Windows.  They 
might try to do that.  You can purchase the Windows 8 ISO and they will e-mail 
you a key and a download link.

I don’t have the phone number handy right now.
On Dec 28, 2013, at 7:00 PM, Byron J. Lee  wrote:

Does Microsoft offer the ability to download the ISO along with a code rather 
than a CD, and if so, what's the link to purchase and download said ISO?

On 12/28/2013 4:51 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote:
> Yu can download an ISO image, and the boot camp set up utility will create a 
> bootable flash drive that is used for the install.
> On Dec 27, 2013, at 6:36 PM, Byron J. Lee  wrote:
> 
>> I actually have a question regarding installing Windows 7 on a Macbook Air. 
>> How do you install Win7 if you don't have a CD player? Can you download a 
>> file from Microsoft? Is there a step-by-step guide on doing it without a CD?
>> 
>> On 12/27/2013 1:14 PM, Bill Holton wrote:
>>> Hi.
>>> I know you cannot bootcamp a Mac to install Windows 7 without sighted help. 
>>>  But what about Windows 8?  Canyou get Narrator to start up at 
>>> installation?  Also, has anyone tried using the talking Windows 7 installer 
>>> to Bootcamp their Mac?  Thanks much.
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Re: installing Bootcamp

[Byron J. Lee]

Does Microsoft offer the ability to download the ISO along with a code 
rather than a CD, and if so, what's the link to purchase and download 
said ISO?


On 12/28/2013 4:51 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote:

Yu can download an ISO image, and the boot camp set up utility will create a 
bootable flash drive that is used for the install.
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I actually have a question regarding installing Windows 7 on a Macbook Air. How 
do you install Win7 if you don't have a CD player? Can you download a file from 
Microsoft? Is there a step-by-step guide on doing it without a CD?

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Hi.
I know you cannot bootcamp a Mac to install Windows 7 without sighted help.  
But what about Windows 8?  Canyou get Narrator to start up at installation?  
Also, has anyone tried using the talking Windows 7 installer to Bootcamp their 
Mac?  Thanks much.
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Re: installing Bootcamp

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Yu can download an ISO image, and the boot camp set up utility will create a 
bootable flash drive that is used for the install.
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> I actually have a question regarding installing Windows 7 on a Macbook Air. 
> How do you install Win7 if you don't have a CD player? Can you download a 
> file from Microsoft? Is there a step-by-step guide on doing it without a CD?
> 
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>> Also, has anyone tried using the talking Windows 7 installer to Bootcamp 
>> their Mac?  Thanks much.
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Re: installing Bootcamp

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in bootcamp utility, there is an option to download/read  a help file, or 
"installation guide" as I think it is called,  for the bootcamp process
As to no CD player, no problem, as long as you have the ISO (disk image) file 
for windows. You just point bootcamp utility to that file instead of a disc in 
a CD player. Realize that you will not have speech during the installation 
process and will need a pair of eyes (hopefully attached to a tech savvy brain).

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> How do you install Win7 if you don't have a CD player? Can you download a 
> file from Microsoft? Is there a step-by-step guide on doing it without a CD?
> 
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>> Also, has anyone tried using the talking Windows 7 installer to Bootcamp 
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Re: installing Bootcamp

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I actually have a question regarding installing Windows 7 on a Macbook 
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Re: installing Bootcamp

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Windows 8 is not any better for installing without sight than windows 7 
was. You would need some kind of special install if you want to install 
using boot camp. Alternatively, if you use fusion, you can install in 
to a virtual machine instead, and fusion will allow you to install 
windows without sighted help. I could comment on my thoughts about 
windows 8 itself but that's not the point of this list. Suffice it to 
say though that I think things are much more cumbersome than windows 7.

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Re: installing bootcamp accesible?

[Cody]

NO, you cannot transfer partitions, you may only have 3 partitions, I say this 
because you've got a lion partition, lion recovery partition, and your bootcamp 
partition.
On Sep 23, 2011, at 9:47 PM, Ioana Gandrabur wrote:

> Thanks for your generous response.
> It al makes sense except step 5.
> You are mentioning 4 partitions? 
> I have some doubts if the windws is transferable  from my pc so, if worse 
> comes to worst, can I abbort the instal or remove that partition like nothing 
> happened? 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Ioana, 
> 
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> 
> On Sep 23, 2011, at 7:08 PM, Cody  wrote:
> 
>> The only time you will need the sl dvd is after xp is installed, once you 
>> insert the sl dv when you're at your windows desktop you'll probably get a 
>> list asking you what you want to do with the dvd, just select run setup.exe. 
>> You most likely won't have sound, so if you've got a usb headset you could 
>> plug that in and use narrator to get you started with the install. here is 
>> the very stripped down list of what you should do
>> 
>> 1. in OX, go into the utilities folder (command shift U) and go to the 
>> bootcamp assistant
>> 2. Once there, it will ask you to download the windows drivers but you don't 
>> need this step because lion is assuming you've got windows 7 even though it 
>> doesn't explicitly tell you that. So just check the box that says I've 
>> already got the drivers, and click next.
>> 3. on the partition screen, there are 2 options, split the drive into 20 
>> gigs and the rest for mac, or just split the drive in half. I would split 
>> the drive in half to avoid any future space problems you may or may not have.
>> 4. When all said and done it will ask you to insert your windows cd and it 
>> should, barring your mac will recognize the xp disk since it is Lion after 
>> all, boot into the blue xp installer.
>> 5. You will need someone sighted to select the 4th partition in the list, 
>> which will be labeled as bootcamp. You'll probably need to format it, and 
>> after you do, that drive label of bootcamp will not be there, so be sure 
>> you've got the right one highlighted in the list.
>> 6. The install should go as normal, and when it is finished and you've had 
>> help setting up your time zone, user account and windows product key 
>> screens, then you should be at your desktop. Plug in any usb audio device 
>> you have, and wait for it to install drivers.
>> 7. Press windows key plus r and type in narrator and press enter.
>> 8. If you don't have any usb audio devices available to you, skip steps 6 
>> and 7 and just insert your snow leopard disk. Start the installer on the 
>> disk and it will automatically install all the drivers for you, and it will 
>> want you to reboot.
>> 
>> Please note that if your machine automatically boots into xp by default, 
>> don't panic, your lion install is not gone. To get back to lion as soon as 
>> you hear the mac chime start up sound, hold your option key for about 15 20 
>> seconds and press right arrow twice and press enter.
>> 
>> I hope this helps
>> 
>> Cody
>> 
>> On Sep 23, 2011, at 6:50 PM, Ioana Gandrabur wrote:
>> 
>>> Thanks for your answer
>>> I do indeed have a snow leopard dvd. If you would not mind I would really 
>>> appreciate if you could outline where in the procedure I bring in the dvd 
>>> and how I find the missing drivers.
>>> I am a new user and would hait to be stuck in the middle of the process.
>>> 
>>> Thanks again,
>>> 
>>> Ioana 
>>> (Sent from my phone)
>>> 
>>> Please check out my new CD at www.ioanagandrabur.com or on itunes.
>>> 
>>> On Sep 23, 2011, at 4:26 PM, Cody  wrote:
>>> 
 As far as installing xp on lion I'm doubting it will work, but then again, 
 I will say I've installed Vista, which is officially unsupported by apple 
 now, so that means xp will be unsupported as well. However this doesn't 
 mean it will not work, because it might but you'r going to have to find 
 drivers, which apple will not support, unless you've got a leopard or snow 
 leopard disk and upgraded to lion, that might work. Voiceover will not 
 speak during the windows install, so you will need an unattended setup, or 
 sighted help.
 
 Cody
 On Sep 23, 2011, at 4:22 PM, Ioana Gandrabur wrote:
 
> Hi all,
> 
> I was wondering if the installation of bootcamp is accessible.
> 
> I am concerned that when it comes to setting up windows vo will stop 
> speaking.
> 
> Still hoping to hear some feedback for installing xp on lion.
> 
> Thanks for all your help!
> 
> Ioana
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Re: installing bootcamp accesible?

[Ioana Gandrabur]

Thanks for your generous response.
It al makes sense except step 5.
You are mentioning 4 partitions? 
I have some doubts if the windws is transferable  from my pc so, if worse comes 
to worst, can I abbort the instal or remove that partition like nothing 
happened? 

Regards,

Ioana, 

(Sent from my phone)

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On Sep 23, 2011, at 7:08 PM, Cody  wrote:

> The only time you will need the sl dvd is after xp is installed, once you 
> insert the sl dv when you're at your windows desktop you'll probably get a 
> list asking you what you want to do with the dvd, just select run setup.exe. 
> You most likely won't have sound, so if you've got a usb headset you could 
> plug that in and use narrator to get you started with the install. here is 
> the very stripped down list of what you should do
> 
> 1. in OX, go into the utilities folder (command shift U) and go to the 
> bootcamp assistant
> 2. Once there, it will ask you to download the windows drivers but you don't 
> need this step because lion is assuming you've got windows 7 even though it 
> doesn't explicitly tell you that. So just check the box that says I've 
> already got the drivers, and click next.
> 3. on the partition screen, there are 2 options, split the drive into 20 gigs 
> and the rest for mac, or just split the drive in half. I would split the 
> drive in half to avoid any future space problems you may or may not have.
> 4. When all said and done it will ask you to insert your windows cd and it 
> should, barring your mac will recognize the xp disk since it is Lion after 
> all, boot into the blue xp installer.
> 5. You will need someone sighted to select the 4th partition in the list, 
> which will be labeled as bootcamp. You'll probably need to format it, and 
> after you do, that drive label of bootcamp will not be there, so be sure 
> you've got the right one highlighted in the list.
> 6. The install should go as normal, and when it is finished and you've had 
> help setting up your time zone, user account and windows product key screens, 
> then you should be at your desktop. Plug in any usb audio device you have, 
> and wait for it to install drivers.
> 7. Press windows key plus r and type in narrator and press enter.
> 8. If you don't have any usb audio devices available to you, skip steps 6 and 
> 7 and just insert your snow leopard disk. Start the installer on the disk and 
> it will automatically install all the drivers for you, and it will want you 
> to reboot.
> 
> Please note that if your machine automatically boots into xp by default, 
> don't panic, your lion install is not gone. To get back to lion as soon as 
> you hear the mac chime start up sound, hold your option key for about 15 20 
> seconds and press right arrow twice and press enter.
> 
> I hope this helps
> 
> Cody
> 
> On Sep 23, 2011, at 6:50 PM, Ioana Gandrabur wrote:
> 
>> Thanks for your answer
>> I do indeed have a snow leopard dvd. If you would not mind I would really 
>> appreciate if you could outline where in the procedure I bring in the dvd 
>> and how I find the missing drivers.
>> I am a new user and would hait to be stuck in the middle of the process.
>> 
>> Thanks again,
>> 
>> Ioana 
>> (Sent from my phone)
>> 
>> Please check out my new CD at www.ioanagandrabur.com or on itunes.
>> 
>> On Sep 23, 2011, at 4:26 PM, Cody  wrote:
>> 
>>> As far as installing xp on lion I'm doubting it will work, but then again, 
>>> I will say I've installed Vista, which is officially unsupported by apple 
>>> now, so that means xp will be unsupported as well. However this doesn't 
>>> mean it will not work, because it might but you'r going to have to find 
>>> drivers, which apple will not support, unless you've got a leopard or snow 
>>> leopard disk and upgraded to lion, that might work. Voiceover will not 
>>> speak during the windows install, so you will need an unattended setup, or 
>>> sighted help.
>>> 
>>> Cody
>>> On Sep 23, 2011, at 4:22 PM, Ioana Gandrabur wrote:
>>> 
 Hi all,
 
 I was wondering if the installation of bootcamp is accessible.
 
 I am concerned that when it comes to setting up windows vo will stop 
 speaking.
 
 Still hoping to hear some feedback for installing xp on lion.
 
 Thanks for all your help!
 
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Re: installing bootcamp accesible?

[Cody]

The only time you will need the sl dvd is after xp is installed, once you 
insert the sl dv when you're at your windows desktop you'll probably get a list 
asking you what you want to do with the dvd, just select run setup.exe. You 
most likely won't have sound, so if you've got a usb headset you could plug 
that in and use narrator to get you started with the install. here is the very 
stripped down list of what you should do

1. in OX, go into the utilities folder (command shift U) and go to the bootcamp 
assistant
2. Once there, it will ask you to download the windows drivers but you don't 
need this step because lion is assuming you've got windows 7 even though it 
doesn't explicitly tell you that. So just check the box that says I've already 
got the drivers, and click next.
3. on the partition screen, there are 2 options, split the drive into 20 gigs 
and the rest for mac, or just split the drive in half. I would split the drive 
in half to avoid any future space problems you may or may not have.
4. When all said and done it will ask you to insert your windows cd and it 
should, barring your mac will recognize the xp disk since it is Lion after all, 
boot into the blue xp installer.
5. You will need someone sighted to select the 4th partition in the list, which 
will be labeled as bootcamp. You'll probably need to format it, and after you 
do, that drive label of bootcamp will not be there, so be sure you've got the 
right one highlighted in the list.
6. The install should go as normal, and when it is finished and you've had help 
setting up your time zone, user account and windows product key screens, then 
you should be at your desktop. Plug in any usb audio device you have, and wait 
for it to install drivers.
7. Press windows key plus r and type in narrator and press enter.
8. If you don't have any usb audio devices available to you, skip steps 6 and 7 
and just insert your snow leopard disk. Start the installer on the disk and it 
will automatically install all the drivers for you, and it will want you to 
reboot.

Please note that if your machine automatically boots into xp by default, don't 
panic, your lion install is not gone. To get back to lion as soon as you hear 
the mac chime start up sound, hold your option key for about 15 20 seconds and 
press right arrow twice and press enter.

I hope this helps

Cody

On Sep 23, 2011, at 6:50 PM, Ioana Gandrabur wrote:

> Thanks for your answer
> I do indeed have a snow leopard dvd. If you would not mind I would really 
> appreciate if you could outline where in the procedure I bring in the dvd and 
> how I find the missing drivers.
> I am a new user and would hait to be stuck in the middle of the process.
> 
> Thanks again,
> 
> Ioana 
> (Sent from my phone)
> 
> Please check out my new CD at www.ioanagandrabur.com or on itunes.
> 
> On Sep 23, 2011, at 4:26 PM, Cody  wrote:
> 
>> As far as installing xp on lion I'm doubting it will work, but then again, I 
>> will say I've installed Vista, which is officially unsupported by apple now, 
>> so that means xp will be unsupported as well. However this doesn't mean it 
>> will not work, because it might but you'r going to have to find drivers, 
>> which apple will not support, unless you've got a leopard or snow leopard 
>> disk and upgraded to lion, that might work. Voiceover will not speak during 
>> the windows install, so you will need an unattended setup, or sighted help.
>> 
>> Cody
>> On Sep 23, 2011, at 4:22 PM, Ioana Gandrabur wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> I was wondering if the installation of bootcamp is accessible.
>>> 
>>> I am concerned that when it comes to setting up windows vo will stop 
>>> speaking.
>>> 
>>> Still hoping to hear some feedback for installing xp on lion.
>>> 
>>> Thanks for all your help!
>>> 
>>> Ioana
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Re: installing bootcamp accesible?

[Ioana Gandrabur]

Thanks for your answer
I do indeed have a snow leopard dvd. If you would not mind I would really 
appreciate if you could outline where in the procedure I bring in the dvd and 
how I find the missing drivers.
I am a new user and would hait to be stuck in the middle of the process.

Thanks again,

Ioana 
(Sent from my phone)

Please check out my new CD at www.ioanagandrabur.com or on itunes.

On Sep 23, 2011, at 4:26 PM, Cody  wrote:

> As far as installing xp on lion I'm doubting it will work, but then again, I 
> will say I've installed Vista, which is officially unsupported by apple now, 
> so that means xp will be unsupported as well. However this doesn't mean it 
> will not work, because it might but you'r going to have to find drivers, 
> which apple will not support, unless you've got a leopard or snow leopard 
> disk and upgraded to lion, that might work. Voiceover will not speak during 
> the windows install, so you will need an unattended setup, or sighted help.
> 
> Cody
> On Sep 23, 2011, at 4:22 PM, Ioana Gandrabur wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I was wondering if the installation of bootcamp is accessible.
>> 
>> I am concerned that when it comes to setting up windows vo will stop 
>> speaking.
>> 
>> Still hoping to hear some feedback for installing xp on lion.
>> 
>> Thanks for all your help!
>> 
>> Ioana
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Re: installing bootcamp accesible?

[Cody]

As far as installing xp on lion I'm doubting it will work, but then again, I 
will say I've installed Vista, which is officially unsupported by apple now, so 
that means xp will be unsupported as well. However this doesn't mean it will 
not work, because it might but you'r going to have to find drivers, which apple 
will not support, unless you've got a leopard or snow leopard disk and upgraded 
to lion, that might work. Voiceover will not speak during the windows install, 
so you will need an unattended setup, or sighted help.

Cody
On Sep 23, 2011, at 4:22 PM, Ioana Gandrabur wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> I was wondering if the installation of bootcamp is accessible.
> 
> I am concerned that when it comes to setting up windows vo will stop speaking.
> 
> Still hoping to hear some feedback for installing xp on lion.
> 
> Thanks for all your help!
> 
> Ioana
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