Re: numlock

[Jonathan Cohn]

OK, sorry late night and I need to go to sleep soon so I am being brief…
1. Open VO Utility and switch to the commanders panel.
2. Click the numpad tab in there.

In some cases, I think there might be a customize button that needs to be 
pressed in other cases the customization table is just on that page directly.
Interact with the table and go to the third row which should say 
3 no action 
or something close to that.
Move over to the No action button and click on that to bring up a menu.
Type Nav to get to the Navigation sub-menu and then go down that menu until you 
find
goto linked item
If you are a fast typist you should be able to type 
"goto l” and it should get selected for you and then just hit return and close 
voice over utility.

You might want to save your VO preferences in the file menu of voiceover 
utility before chanign a lot of things there, then you have a way back to how 
things were.
Good Night!!
Jonathan 

> On Sep 8, 2020, at 6:13 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
> 
> how do you bind 3 to the vo-j command? I think that's a good idea.
> 
>> On Sep 8, 2020, at 4:23 PM, Jonathan Cohn > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> Numpad commander basic keys:
>> 1. 0 modifier
>> 1 bring up item chooser 
>> 2 Move VoiceOver cursor down. 
>> 3 (not bound to any function I bind it to the VO-J command )
>> 4 Move VO cursor left
>> 5 Activate current item 
>> 6 Move VO cursor right 
>> 7 Stop interacting with item 
>> 8 Move VO cursor up 
>> 9 Interact with item 
>> clear Application chooser 
>> [key next to clear ] same as vo-M
>> Plus contextual menu 
>> 
>> 0 with 1 previous link
>> 0 with 2 next link
>> 0 with 4 previous heading 
>> 0 with 5 next heading 
>> 0 with 7 next form field
>> 0 with 8 next form field 
>> 
>> I believe all of these keys can be reassigned with VO utility
>> There are also the ability to add shift, control, or option  with numbedpad 
>> keys. 
>> For example, I have numbed enter set to route focus to VO cursor shift enter 
>> set to route VO cursor to focus and control enter set to toggle cursor 
>> tracking.
>> 
>> There should be a move VO cursor one character command, though I think this 
>> does not break through different components (sorry, I can't think of a 
>> better way to explain).
>> 
>> Hope you find this worthwhile !
>>  
>>  Best wishes,
>> 
>> Jonathan Cohn
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sep 8, 2020, at 15:34, Lorie McCloud >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> I don't know how the numpad commander works. what I'm trying to do is find 
>>> a work-around for my dead right-arrow key till I can get a new keyboard. do 
>>> you know how I would do that? I get numbers when I press those keys over 
>>> there.
>>> 
>>> thanks.
>>> Lorie
>>> 
 On Sep 8, 2020, at 10:13 AM, Pete De Vasto >>> > wrote:
 
 Dan is right. On the Apple keyboards, if you have a sighted person 
 looking, the key is marked Clear. One other thing, though, Do you have 
 Numpad commander enabled? If so, that overrides the numlock. I disable 
 Numpad commander, and got numbers when I pressed the numbed keys. I was 
 playing with it this morning, but now I can’t get numlock to come back on! 
 It doesn’t matter to me because I’m using Numpad commander, and once I 
 turned mine back on all went back to what I am used to. I hope this is 
 making sense.
 
 Pete De Vasto
 
> On Sep 8, 2020, at 7:37 AM, dan d.  > wrote:
> 
> The key above 7 on the numpad.
> 
> On Tue, 8 Sep 2020, Lorie McCloud wrote:
> 
>> can somebody tell me where the numlock is on a standard Apple keyboard 
>> or where to find that info?
>> 
>> thanks.
>> Lorie
>> 
>> 
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Re: numlock

[Lorie McCloud]

how do you bind 3 to the vo-j command? I think that's a good idea.

> On Sep 8, 2020, at 4:23 PM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> Numpad commander basic keys:
> 1. 0 modifier
> 1 bring up item chooser 
> 2 Move VoiceOver cursor down. 
> 3 (not bound to any function I bind it to the VO-J command )
> 4 Move VO cursor left
> 5 Activate current item 
> 6 Move VO cursor right 
> 7 Stop interacting with item 
> 8 Move VO cursor up 
> 9 Interact with item 
> clear Application chooser 
> [key next to clear ] same as vo-M
> Plus contextual menu 
> 
> 0 with 1 previous link
> 0 with 2 next link
> 0 with 4 previous heading 
> 0 with 5 next heading 
> 0 with 7 next form field
> 0 with 8 next form field 
> 
> I believe all of these keys can be reassigned with VO utility
> There are also the ability to add shift, control, or option  with numbedpad 
> keys. 
> For example, I have numbed enter set to route focus to VO cursor shift enter 
> set to route VO cursor to focus and control enter set to toggle cursor 
> tracking.
> 
> There should be a move VO cursor one character command, though I think this 
> does not break through different components (sorry, I can't think of a better 
> way to explain).
> 
> Hope you find this worthwhile !
>  
>   Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan Cohn
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sep 8, 2020, at 15:34, Lorie McCloud > > wrote:
>> 
>> I don't know how the numpad commander works. what I'm trying to do is find a 
>> work-around for my dead right-arrow key till I can get a new keyboard. do 
>> you know how I would do that? I get numbers when I press those keys over 
>> there.
>> 
>> thanks.
>> Lorie
>> 
>>> On Sep 8, 2020, at 10:13 AM, Pete De Vasto >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Dan is right. On the Apple keyboards, if you have a sighted person looking, 
>>> the key is marked Clear. One other thing, though, Do you have Numpad 
>>> commander enabled? If so, that overrides the numlock. I disable Numpad 
>>> commander, and got numbers when I pressed the numbed keys. I was playing 
>>> with it this morning, but now I can’t get numlock to come back on! It 
>>> doesn’t matter to me because I’m using Numpad commander, and once I turned 
>>> mine back on all went back to what I am used to. I hope this is making 
>>> sense.
>>> 
>>> Pete De Vasto
>>> 
 On Sep 8, 2020, at 7:37 AM, dan d. >>> > wrote:
 
 The key above 7 on the numpad.
 
 On Tue, 8 Sep 2020, Lorie McCloud wrote:
 
> can somebody tell me where the numlock is on a standard Apple keyboard or 
> where to find that info?
> 
> thanks.
> Lorie
> 
> 
 
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Re: numlock

[Lorie McCloud]

thanks very much for this!

> On Sep 8, 2020, at 4:23 PM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> Numpad commander basic keys:
> 1. 0 modifier
> 1 bring up item chooser 
> 2 Move VoiceOver cursor down. 
> 3 (not bound to any function I bind it to the VO-J command )
> 4 Move VO cursor left
> 5 Activate current item 
> 6 Move VO cursor right 
> 7 Stop interacting with item 
> 8 Move VO cursor up 
> 9 Interact with item 
> clear Application chooser 
> [key next to clear ] same as vo-M
> Plus contextual menu 
> 
> 0 with 1 previous link
> 0 with 2 next link
> 0 with 4 previous heading 
> 0 with 5 next heading 
> 0 with 7 next form field
> 0 with 8 next form field 
> 
> I believe all of these keys can be reassigned with VO utility
> There are also the ability to add shift, control, or option  with numbedpad 
> keys. 
> For example, I have numbed enter set to route focus to VO cursor shift enter 
> set to route VO cursor to focus and control enter set to toggle cursor 
> tracking.
> 
> There should be a move VO cursor one character command, though I think this 
> does not break through different components (sorry, I can't think of a better 
> way to explain).
> 
> Hope you find this worthwhile !
>  
>   Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan Cohn
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sep 8, 2020, at 15:34, Lorie McCloud > > wrote:
>> 
>> I don't know how the numpad commander works. what I'm trying to do is find a 
>> work-around for my dead right-arrow key till I can get a new keyboard. do 
>> you know how I would do that? I get numbers when I press those keys over 
>> there.
>> 
>> thanks.
>> Lorie
>> 
>>> On Sep 8, 2020, at 10:13 AM, Pete De Vasto >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Dan is right. On the Apple keyboards, if you have a sighted person looking, 
>>> the key is marked Clear. One other thing, though, Do you have Numpad 
>>> commander enabled? If so, that overrides the numlock. I disable Numpad 
>>> commander, and got numbers when I pressed the numbed keys. I was playing 
>>> with it this morning, but now I can’t get numlock to come back on! It 
>>> doesn’t matter to me because I’m using Numpad commander, and once I turned 
>>> mine back on all went back to what I am used to. I hope this is making 
>>> sense.
>>> 
>>> Pete De Vasto
>>> 
 On Sep 8, 2020, at 7:37 AM, dan d. >>> > wrote:
 
 The key above 7 on the numpad.
 
 On Tue, 8 Sep 2020, Lorie McCloud wrote:
 
> can somebody tell me where the numlock is on a standard Apple keyboard or 
> where to find that info?
> 
> thanks.
> Lorie
> 
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Re: numlock

[Jonathan Cohn]

You can only turn off numpad commander with control-option clear. Even when 
your VO key is the caps lock. I suspect this is a bug, and it is true in at 
least three versions of MacOS.

Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



> On Sep 8, 2020, at 11:13, Pete De Vasto  wrote:
> 
> Dan is right. On the Apple keyboards, if you have a sighted person looking, 
> the key is marked Clear. One other thing, though, Do you have Numpad 
> commander enabled? If so, that overrides the numlock. I disable Numpad 
> commander, and got numbers when I pressed the numbed keys. I was playing with 
> it this morning, but now I can’t get numlock to come back on! It doesn’t 
> matter to me because I’m using Numpad commander, and once I turned mine back 
> on all went back to what I am used to. I hope this is making sense.
> 
> Pete De Vasto
> 
>> On Sep 8, 2020, at 7:37 AM, dan d.  wrote:
>> 
>> The key above 7 on the numpad.
>> 
>> On Tue, 8 Sep 2020, Lorie McCloud wrote:
>> 
>>> can somebody tell me where the numlock is on a standard Apple keyboard or 
>>> where to find that info?
>>> 
>>> thanks.
>>> Lorie
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: numlock

[Jonathan Cohn]

Hello,

Numpad commander basic keys:
1. 0 modifier
1 bring up item chooser 
2 Move VoiceOver cursor down. 
3 (not bound to any function I bind it to the VO-J command )
4 Move VO cursor left
5 Activate current item 
6 Move VO cursor right 
7 Stop interacting with item 
8 Move VO cursor up 
9 Interact with item 
clear Application chooser 
[key next to clear ] same as vo-M
Plus contextual menu 

0 with 1 previous link
0 with 2 next link
0 with 4 previous heading 
0 with 5 next heading 
0 with 7 next form field
0 with 8 next form field 

I believe all of these keys can be reassigned with VO utility
There are also the ability to add shift, control, or option  with numbedpad 
keys. 
For example, I have numbed enter set to route focus to VO cursor shift enter 
set to route VO cursor to focus and control enter set to toggle cursor tracking.

There should be a move VO cursor one character command, though I think this 
does not break through different components (sorry, I can't think of a better 
way to explain).

Hope you find this worthwhile !
 
Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



> On Sep 8, 2020, at 15:34, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
> 
> I don't know how the numpad commander works. what I'm trying to do is find a 
> work-around for my dead right-arrow key till I can get a new keyboard. do you 
> know how I would do that? I get numbers when I press those keys over there.
> 
> thanks.
> Lorie
> 
>> On Sep 8, 2020, at 10:13 AM, Pete De Vasto  wrote:
>> 
>> Dan is right. On the Apple keyboards, if you have a sighted person looking, 
>> the key is marked Clear. One other thing, though, Do you have Numpad 
>> commander enabled? If so, that overrides the numlock. I disable Numpad 
>> commander, and got numbers when I pressed the numbed keys. I was playing 
>> with it this morning, but now I can’t get numlock to come back on! It 
>> doesn’t matter to me because I’m using Numpad commander, and once I turned 
>> mine back on all went back to what I am used to. I hope this is making sense.
>> 
>> Pete De Vasto
>> 
>>> On Sep 8, 2020, at 7:37 AM, dan d.  wrote:
>>> 
>>> The key above 7 on the numpad.
>>> 
>>> On Tue, 8 Sep 2020, Lorie McCloud wrote:
>>> 
 can somebody tell me where the numlock is on a standard Apple keyboard or 
 where to find that info?
 
 thanks.
 Lorie
 
 
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Re: numlock

[Pete De Vasto]

Hi Lorie,

This is a tough one, and I’m not sure there’s a way to have the Numpad keys 
behave exactly like the right-arrow key. I’ve done some experimenting, even 
found something on the Apple site that talks about it, but it seems like the 
only thing you can make those keys do is move the mouse pointer, not the 
regular cursor. Check this link out:

https://support.apple.com/guide/mac-help/if-the-numeric-keypad-doesnt-work-mchlp2366/mac
 


Perhaps someone else on the list may have an idea.

Pete De Vasto

> On Sep 8, 2020, at 12:34 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
> 
> I don't know how the numpad commander works. what I'm trying to do is find a 
> work-around for my dead right-arrow key till I can get a new keyboard. do you 
> know how I would do that? I get numbers when I press those keys over there.
> 
> thanks.
> Lorie
> 
>> On Sep 8, 2020, at 10:13 AM, Pete De Vasto  wrote:
>> 
>> Dan is right. On the Apple keyboards, if you have a sighted person looking, 
>> the key is marked Clear. One other thing, though, Do you have Numpad 
>> commander enabled? If so, that overrides the numlock. I disable Numpad 
>> commander, and got numbers when I pressed the numbed keys. I was playing 
>> with it this morning, but now I can’t get numlock to come back on! It 
>> doesn’t matter to me because I’m using Numpad commander, and once I turned 
>> mine back on all went back to what I am used to. I hope this is making sense.
>> 
>> Pete De Vasto
>> 
>>> On Sep 8, 2020, at 7:37 AM, dan d.  wrote:
>>> 
>>> The key above 7 on the numpad.
>>> 
>>> On Tue, 8 Sep 2020, Lorie McCloud wrote:
>>> 
 can somebody tell me where the numlock is on a standard Apple keyboard or 
 where to find that info?
 
 thanks.
 Lorie
 
 
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Re: numlock

[Lorie McCloud]

I don't know how the numpad commander works. what I'm trying to do is find a 
work-around for my dead right-arrow key till I can get a new keyboard. do you 
know how I would do that? I get numbers when I press those keys over there.

thanks.
Lorie

> On Sep 8, 2020, at 10:13 AM, Pete De Vasto  wrote:
> 
> Dan is right. On the Apple keyboards, if you have a sighted person looking, 
> the key is marked Clear. One other thing, though, Do you have Numpad 
> commander enabled? If so, that overrides the numlock. I disable Numpad 
> commander, and got numbers when I pressed the numbed keys. I was playing with 
> it this morning, but now I can’t get numlock to come back on! It doesn’t 
> matter to me because I’m using Numpad commander, and once I turned mine back 
> on all went back to what I am used to. I hope this is making sense.
> 
> Pete De Vasto
> 
>> On Sep 8, 2020, at 7:37 AM, dan d.  wrote:
>> 
>> The key above 7 on the numpad.
>> 
>> On Tue, 8 Sep 2020, Lorie McCloud wrote:
>> 
>>> can somebody tell me where the numlock is on a standard Apple keyboard or 
>>> where to find that info?
>>> 
>>> thanks.
>>> Lorie
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: numlock

[Pete De Vasto]

Dan is right. On the Apple keyboards, if you have a sighted person looking, the 
key is marked Clear. One other thing, though, Do you have Numpad commander 
enabled? If so, that overrides the numlock. I disable Numpad commander, and got 
numbers when I pressed the numbed keys. I was playing with it this morning, but 
now I can’t get numlock to come back on! It doesn’t matter to me because I’m 
using Numpad commander, and once I turned mine back on all went back to what I 
am used to. I hope this is making sense.

Pete De Vasto

> On Sep 8, 2020, at 7:37 AM, dan d.  wrote:
> 
> The key above 7 on the numpad.
> 
> On Tue, 8 Sep 2020, Lorie McCloud wrote:
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>> can somebody tell me where the numlock is on a standard Apple keyboard or 
>> where to find that info?
>> 
>> thanks.
>> Lorie
>> 
>> 
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Re: numlock

[dan d.]

The key above 7 on the numpad.

On Tue, 8 Sep 2020, Lorie McCloud wrote:

> can somebody tell me where the numlock is on a standard Apple keyboard or 
> where to find that info?
>
> thanks.
> Lorie
>
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