Re: protected pdf

2012-10-01 Thread Cheryl Homiak
I just bought a protected pdf from Kobo. I can't access it yet because the 
website says it has had trouble contacting the retailer but I've already got my 
receipts fromKobo and Paypal so it's just a matter of time. This is a book I 
want to read and I will be using my Mac so I will report back.


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Re: protected pdf

2012-09-30 Thread Cheryl Homiak
Btw I put all of those drm-free take control pdfs through calibre and they 
convert to text with no problem.
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On Sep 30, 2012, at 7:28 PM, Esther  wrote:

> Hi Lisette, Steve, and Others,
> 
> I think you can use Adobe Digital Editions to read that PDF.  It works on 
> Kobo ePub books that are protected with Adobe's ADE DRM, and it also works on 
> library downloaded eBooks that you can check out on the web from libraries 
> that use OverDrive.  (You can read the books in the OverDrive Media Console 
> app on an iOS device and download to that app, but the experience of reading 
> eBooks is much better in the Kobo iOS app.)
> 
> Given a choice, I usually get ePub books from Kobo, so I'd never tried it 
> with a PDF before this question came up, so I tried it on one of my DRM-free 
> Take Control PDFs.  
> 
> I haven't tried with the updated version, but according to Bryan Jones on the 
> mac-access list, he's found no changes in the way the Mac version performs in 
> the latest version:
> http://www.adobe.com/products/digital-editions.html
> 
> The main thing is that you still don't have the ability to navigate and read 
> by paragraph, line, word, or character on the Mac side, although you can use 
> VO-Shift-C to copy the page to TextEdit where you can do this.  Bryan claims 
> that this is now possible in the latest update for Windows, although the 
> earlier Windows Adobe Digital Editions Preview versions 1.8 basically had the 
> same features as the Mac versions did.
> 
> I have to advance pages by pressing the right arrow key, but reading books 
> with Adobe's ADE DRM does work. And it does work for the DRM-free PDF I just 
> loaded, so this should work OK with your eBOOk.  I'd say this is fine for 
> leisure reading, but for text books you'd really need to have better 
> navigation options supported.
> 
> HTH.  Cheers,
> 
> Esther
> 
> On Sep 29, 2012, at 14:51, Lisette Wesseling wrote:
> 
>> I think Digital Editions on the PC is accessible. Is it accessible on the 
>> Mac?
>> 
>> On 30/09/2012, at 12:18 PM, Steve Holmes  wrote:
>> 
>>> I wonder if Docuscan Plus could deal with this.  Yes, that program costs 
>>> $299 US but might be worth the money to crack this crap.
>>> 
>>> Oh, did I tell you? I hate DRM!
>>> 
>>> On Sep 28, 2012, at 5:06 PM, Lisette Wesseling  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 Hi all
 I recently bought a book from Kobo which I thought was in epub but is 
 actually a drm protected pdf. I don't know how I can read this either on 
 my iPhone or mac. I've written to Kobo but they have not replied.
 What are people using to read protected PDF files? Bookle won't read them 
 is that right?
 I'd like to read my book now that I've purchased it. Thanks for any help.
 
 Cheers
 Lisette
 
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Re: protected pdf

2012-09-30 Thread Cheryl Homiak
Have you gone to the Kobo website and made sure that this is only available as 
a pdf? I seem to remember that some books had more than one download option and 
once you buy the book you can download it in any format. Also, have you tried 
opening your library on the device you are trying to get the book onto and 
seeing if it just needs to be downloaded?



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On Sep 30, 2012, at 8:32 PM, Lisette Wesseling  
wrote:

> Hi Esther
> My problem is knowing how to get the pdf into my kobo app on my iPhone. The 
> epub books just sync automatically, but the pdf doesn't appear to. Any ideas?
> Lisette
> 
> On 1/10/2012, at 1:28 PM, Esther  wrote:
> 
>> Hi Lisette, Steve, and Others,
>> 
>> I think you can use Adobe Digital Editions to read that PDF.  It works on 
>> Kobo ePub books that are protected with Adobe's ADE DRM, and it also works 
>> on library downloaded eBooks that you can check out on the web from 
>> libraries that use OverDrive.  (You can read the books in the OverDrive 
>> Media Console app on an iOS device and download to that app, but the 
>> experience of reading eBooks is much better in the Kobo iOS app.)
>> 
>> Given a choice, I usually get ePub books from Kobo, so I'd never tried it 
>> with a PDF before this question came up, so I tried it on one of my DRM-free 
>> Take Control PDFs.  
>> 
>> I haven't tried with the updated version, but according to Bryan Jones on 
>> the mac-access list, he's found no changes in the way the Mac version 
>> performs in the latest version:
>> http://www.adobe.com/products/digital-editions.html
>> 
>> The main thing is that you still don't have the ability to navigate and read 
>> by paragraph, line, word, or character on the Mac side, although you can use 
>> VO-Shift-C to copy the page to TextEdit where you can do this.  Bryan claims 
>> that this is now possible in the latest update for Windows, although the 
>> earlier Windows Adobe Digital Editions Preview versions 1.8 basically had 
>> the same features as the Mac versions did.
>> 
>> I have to advance pages by pressing the right arrow key, but reading books 
>> with Adobe's ADE DRM does work. And it does work for the DRM-free PDF I just 
>> loaded, so this should work OK with your eBOOk.  I'd say this is fine for 
>> leisure reading, but for text books you'd really need to have better 
>> navigation options supported.
>> 
>> HTH.  Cheers,
>> 
>> Esther
>> 
>> On Sep 29, 2012, at 14:51, Lisette Wesseling wrote:
>> 
>>> I think Digital Editions on the PC is accessible. Is it accessible on the 
>>> Mac?
>>> 
>>> On 30/09/2012, at 12:18 PM, Steve Holmes  wrote:
>>> 
 I wonder if Docuscan Plus could deal with this.  Yes, that program costs 
 $299 US but might be worth the money to crack this crap.
 
 Oh, did I tell you? I hate DRM!
 
 On Sep 28, 2012, at 5:06 PM, Lisette Wesseling 
  wrote:
 
> Hi all
> I recently bought a book from Kobo which I thought was in epub but is 
> actually a drm protected pdf. I don't know how I can read this either on 
> my iPhone or mac. I've written to Kobo but they have not replied.
> What are people using to read protected PDF files? Bookle won't read them 
> is that right?
> I'd like to read my book now that I've purchased it. Thanks for any help.
> 
> Cheers
> Lisette
> 
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Re: protected pdf

2012-09-30 Thread Lisette Wesseling
Hi Esther
My problem is knowing how to get the pdf into my kobo app on my iPhone. The 
epub books just sync automatically, but the pdf doesn't appear to. Any ideas?
Lisette

On 1/10/2012, at 1:28 PM, Esther  wrote:

> Hi Lisette, Steve, and Others,
> 
> I think you can use Adobe Digital Editions to read that PDF.  It works on 
> Kobo ePub books that are protected with Adobe's ADE DRM, and it also works on 
> library downloaded eBooks that you can check out on the web from libraries 
> that use OverDrive.  (You can read the books in the OverDrive Media Console 
> app on an iOS device and download to that app, but the experience of reading 
> eBooks is much better in the Kobo iOS app.)
> 
> Given a choice, I usually get ePub books from Kobo, so I'd never tried it 
> with a PDF before this question came up, so I tried it on one of my DRM-free 
> Take Control PDFs.  
> 
> I haven't tried with the updated version, but according to Bryan Jones on the 
> mac-access list, he's found no changes in the way the Mac version performs in 
> the latest version:
> http://www.adobe.com/products/digital-editions.html
> 
> The main thing is that you still don't have the ability to navigate and read 
> by paragraph, line, word, or character on the Mac side, although you can use 
> VO-Shift-C to copy the page to TextEdit where you can do this.  Bryan claims 
> that this is now possible in the latest update for Windows, although the 
> earlier Windows Adobe Digital Editions Preview versions 1.8 basically had the 
> same features as the Mac versions did.
> 
> I have to advance pages by pressing the right arrow key, but reading books 
> with Adobe's ADE DRM does work. And it does work for the DRM-free PDF I just 
> loaded, so this should work OK with your eBOOk.  I'd say this is fine for 
> leisure reading, but for text books you'd really need to have better 
> navigation options supported.
> 
> HTH.  Cheers,
> 
> Esther
> 
> On Sep 29, 2012, at 14:51, Lisette Wesseling wrote:
> 
>> I think Digital Editions on the PC is accessible. Is it accessible on the 
>> Mac?
>> 
>> On 30/09/2012, at 12:18 PM, Steve Holmes  wrote:
>> 
>>> I wonder if Docuscan Plus could deal with this.  Yes, that program costs 
>>> $299 US but might be worth the money to crack this crap.
>>> 
>>> Oh, did I tell you? I hate DRM!
>>> 
>>> On Sep 28, 2012, at 5:06 PM, Lisette Wesseling  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 Hi all
 I recently bought a book from Kobo which I thought was in epub but is 
 actually a drm protected pdf. I don't know how I can read this either on 
 my iPhone or mac. I've written to Kobo but they have not replied.
 What are people using to read protected PDF files? Bookle won't read them 
 is that right?
 I'd like to read my book now that I've purchased it. Thanks for any help.
 
 Cheers
 Lisette
 
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Re: protected pdf

2012-09-30 Thread Esther
Hi Lisette, Steve, and Others,

I think you can use Adobe Digital Editions to read that PDF.  It works on Kobo 
ePub books that are protected with Adobe's ADE DRM, and it also works on 
library downloaded eBooks that you can check out on the web from libraries that 
use OverDrive.  (You can read the books in the OverDrive Media Console app on 
an iOS device and download to that app, but the experience of reading eBooks is 
much better in the Kobo iOS app.)

Given a choice, I usually get ePub books from Kobo, so I'd never tried it with 
a PDF before this question came up, so I tried it on one of my DRM-free Take 
Control PDFs.  

I haven't tried with the updated version, but according to Bryan Jones on the 
mac-access list, he's found no changes in the way the Mac version performs in 
the latest version:
http://www.adobe.com/products/digital-editions.html

The main thing is that you still don't have the ability to navigate and read by 
paragraph, line, word, or character on the Mac side, although you can use 
VO-Shift-C to copy the page to TextEdit where you can do this.  Bryan claims 
that this is now possible in the latest update for Windows, although the 
earlier Windows Adobe Digital Editions Preview versions 1.8 basically had the 
same features as the Mac versions did.

I have to advance pages by pressing the right arrow key, but reading books with 
Adobe's ADE DRM does work. And it does work for the DRM-free PDF I just loaded, 
so this should work OK with your eBOOk.  I'd say this is fine for leisure 
reading, but for text books you'd really need to have better navigation options 
supported.

HTH.  Cheers,

Esther

On Sep 29, 2012, at 14:51, Lisette Wesseling wrote:

> I think Digital Editions on the PC is accessible. Is it accessible on the Mac?
> 
> On 30/09/2012, at 12:18 PM, Steve Holmes  wrote:
> 
>> I wonder if Docuscan Plus could deal with this.  Yes, that program costs 
>> $299 US but might be worth the money to crack this crap.
>> 
>> Oh, did I tell you? I hate DRM!
>> 
>> On Sep 28, 2012, at 5:06 PM, Lisette Wesseling  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all
>>> I recently bought a book from Kobo which I thought was in epub but is 
>>> actually a drm protected pdf. I don't know how I can read this either on my 
>>> iPhone or mac. I've written to Kobo but they have not replied.
>>> What are people using to read protected PDF files? Bookle won't read them 
>>> is that right?
>>> I'd like to read my book now that I've purchased it. Thanks for any help.
>>> 
>>> Cheers
>>> Lisette
>>> 

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Re: protected pdf

2012-09-30 Thread Karen Lewellen

Hi,
A couple  of suggestions that are far less expensive than Steve's below 
smiles.
first, do not write kobo, call them.  More often than not they use a 
customer service filtering email  which may have no idea what to do with that 
message.  time for a human.
Second, kobo may not be the issue, but the book publisher or author if 
self published.  If it is worth your investment, it is worth it to them 
that you tell them of the issue.
Honestly fixing or breaking into  the book  does not contribute to 
people who innocently 
prevent access like this from learning.
More often than not, they are more than willing to learn, perhaps 
replacing your copy with an unprotected one.
Just some ideas really depending on how much you value the money you spent 
and the information in that book.

Karen

On Sat, 29 Sep 2012, Steve Holmes wrote:


I wonder if Docuscan Plus could deal with this.  Yes, that program costs $299 
US but might be worth the money to crack this crap.

Oh, did I tell you? I hate DRM!

On Sep 28, 2012, at 5:06 PM, Lisette Wesseling  
wrote:


Hi all
I recently bought a book from Kobo which I thought was in epub but is actually 
a drm protected pdf. I don't know how I can read this either on my iPhone or 
mac. I've written to Kobo but they have not replied.
What are people using to read protected PDF files? Bookle won't read them is 
that right?
I'd like to read my book now that I've purchased it. Thanks for any help.

Cheers
Lisette

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Re: protected pdf

2012-09-29 Thread Lisette Wesseling
I think Digital Editions on the PC is accessible. Is it accessible on the Mac?

On 30/09/2012, at 12:18 PM, Steve Holmes  wrote:

> I wonder if Docuscan Plus could deal with this.  Yes, that program costs $299 
> US but might be worth the money to crack this crap.
> 
> Oh, did I tell you? I hate DRM!
> 
> On Sep 28, 2012, at 5:06 PM, Lisette Wesseling  
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi all
>> I recently bought a book from Kobo which I thought was in epub but is 
>> actually a drm protected pdf. I don't know how I can read this either on my 
>> iPhone or mac. I've written to Kobo but they have not replied.
>> What are people using to read protected PDF files? Bookle won't read them is 
>> that right?
>> I'd like to read my book now that I've purchased it. Thanks for any help.
>> 
>> Cheers
>> Lisette
>> 
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Re: protected pdf

2012-09-29 Thread Steve Holmes
I wonder if Docuscan Plus could deal with this.  Yes, that program costs $299 
US but might be worth the money to crack this crap.

Oh, did I tell you? I hate DRM!

On Sep 28, 2012, at 5:06 PM, Lisette Wesseling  
wrote:

> Hi all
> I recently bought a book from Kobo which I thought was in epub but is 
> actually a drm protected pdf. I don't know how I can read this either on my 
> iPhone or mac. I've written to Kobo but they have not replied.
> What are people using to read protected PDF files? Bookle won't read them is 
> that right?
> I'd like to read my book now that I've purchased it. Thanks for any help.
> 
> Cheers
> Lisette
> 
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