Re: scanning and the mac
Would you be prepared to consider an off the shelf scanning system for your Mac? Meaning something like Abey Fine Reader? No, its not self voicing but you can get around it with Voiceover so some knowledge of how Voiceover works will be a must before you use it but that will come anyway if you plan to use Voiceover with your Mac . Running a dual boot system or a virtual machine just to run Kurzweil seems to be going to one hell of a lot of trouble to me , I know where you're coming from with Kurzweil though as I've used it here on my Windows PC and no one can deny its a great package - even though its massively overpriced in my humble opinion - but as I said before, you a little knowledge of Voicoever will go a long way and save you a lot of time. On 17/02/2011 3:11 AM, Caitlyn and Nickels wrote: Hi, We have been kicking around the idea of getting a couple of new macs for a couple of weeks now since bothour pc's are not working that great anymore. The main thing that is holding us back is our heavy reliance on Kurzweil. I am a grad student and we also use k1000 for scanning our mail daily. I know we could either do a duel boot system or run a virtual machine and then can use k1000 this way on the mac, but I wanted to ask knowledgable folks first about this before we jumped in. We heard about another kurzweil product that is for the mac, but it's not self voicing, and I don't know if vo works with it. Does anybody have any mac specific solutions that work well for scanning text books? For scanning the types we all get in the post? I use the bookmark features in k1000 quite a lot, plus the dictionary a lot and have preferred it a lot for the proof reading I do for book share over ms word. Oh, that's actually another question, we were told that pages actually isn't that great or useable... Lots of this info is coming from people who don't use vo regularly. For us, though, this scanner stuff is the only thing standing in the way. We do have a old power book, but it's the old non intel mac, so we're stuck running leopard on it, can't do a virtual machine or anything on it, it doesn't support the magic track pad, and we can't upgrade to snow leopard or anything beyond what we already have on it(we already called apple about it). Any help or anything would be appreciated! Thanks, Caitlyn -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: scanning and the mac
I agree with Dane. I recently started using Abby FineReader, and have found it to be an excellent solution on the Mac. It's not tailored to the visually impaired specifically, but it does work quite well. The US retail price of Abby FineReader is $99, and there is a trial available from their web site. HTH. On Feb 16, 2011, at 11:17 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: > Would you be prepared to consider an off the shelf scanning system for your > Mac? Meaning something like Abey Fine Reader? > > No, its not self voicing but you can get around it with Voiceover so some > knowledge of how Voiceover works will be a must before you use it but that > will come anyway if you plan to use Voiceover with your Mac . > > Running a dual boot system or a virtual machine just to run Kurzweil seems to > be going to one hell of a lot of trouble to me , I know where you're > coming from with Kurzweil though as I've used it here on my Windows PC and no > one can deny its a great package - even though its massively overpriced in my > humble opinion - but as I said before, you a little knowledge of Voicoever > will go a long way and save you a lot of time. > > > > On 17/02/2011 3:11 AM, Caitlyn and Nickels wrote: >> Hi, >> >> We have been kicking around the idea of getting a couple of new macs for a >> couple of weeks now since bothour pc's are not working that great anymore. >> The main thing that is holding us back is our heavy reliance on Kurzweil. I >> am a grad student and we also use k1000 for scanning our mail daily. I know >> we could either do a duel boot system or run a virtual machine and then can >> use k1000 this way on the mac, but I wanted to ask knowledgable folks first >> about this before we jumped in. >> >> We heard about another kurzweil product that is for the mac, but it's not >> self voicing, and I don't know if vo works with it. Does anybody have any >> mac specific solutions that work well for scanning text books? For scanning >> the types we all get in the post? I use the bookmark features in k1000 >> quite a lot, plus the dictionary a lot and have preferred it a lot for the >> proof reading I do for book share over ms word. >> >> Oh, that's actually another question, we were told that pages actually isn't >> that great or useable... >> >> Lots of this info is coming from people who don't use vo regularly. >> >> For us, though, this scanner stuff is the only thing standing in the way. >> We do have a old power book, but it's the old non intel mac, so we're stuck >> running leopard on it, can't do a virtual machine or anything on it, it >> doesn't support the magic track pad, and we can't upgrade to snow leopard or >> anything beyond what we already have on it(we already called apple about >> it). >> >> Any help or anything would be appreciated! >> >> Thanks, >> Caitlyn >> >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: scanning and the mac
Hello, My company is a Apple value add reseller and not only do we sell Apple computers, but we custom configure them for no additional charge. This means if you want a VMWare fusion set-up we will install the version of Windows that you want and custom configure using some tricks that we've learned in house that help with smoothly switching back and forth between the Apple and Microsoft environments. Everybody who purchase a Mac from us also gets a free copy of the Mac Academy Workbook and Study Guide along with 17 audio learning modules in MP3 format. There are a couple ways to go about setting-up a scan and read system using off the shelf mainstream technology, but given what you said about your reliance on K1000 as a student, perhaps it would be prudent to install K1000 on the Windows side, and then perhaps purchasing the Eye-Pal camera which can be used either on the Mac or the Windows Side. Although Eye-Pal was eventually ported into an X11 Application using something called WINE and is not coded in the native Apple environment but recognition is good and fast. Feel free to contact me directly off list if you have any questions whatsoever. Best, Earle Harrison Handy Tech North America 651-636-5184 On Feb 16, 2011, at 10:11 AM, Caitlyn and Nickels wrote: > Hi, > > We have been kicking around the idea of getting a couple of new macs for a > couple of weeks now since bothour pc's are not working that great anymore. > The main thing that is holding us back is our heavy reliance on Kurzweil. I > am a grad student and we also use k1000 for scanning our mail daily. I know > we could either do a duel boot system or run a virtual machine and then can > use k1000 this way on the mac, but I wanted to ask knowledgable folks first > about this before we jumped in. > > We heard about another kurzweil product that is for the mac, but it's not > self voicing, and I don't know if vo works with it. Does anybody have any > mac specific solutions that work well for scanning text books? For scanning > the types we all get in the post? I use the bookmark features in k1000 > quite a lot, plus the dictionary a lot and have preferred it a lot for the > proof reading I do for book share over ms word. > > Oh, that's actually another question, we were told that pages actually isn't > that great or useable... > > Lots of this info is coming from people who don't use vo regularly. > > For us, though, this scanner stuff is the only thing standing in the way. > We do have a old power book, but it's the old non intel mac, so we're stuck > running leopard on it, can't do a virtual machine or anything on it, it > doesn't support the magic track pad, and we can't upgrade to snow leopard or > anything beyond what we already have on it(we already called apple about > it). > > Any help or anything would be appreciated! > > Thanks, > Caitlyn > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: scanning and the mac
Hi Dane, As long as Ihad something which I could scan a book into the computer accurately, get it recognized, and do what needed done, yes, I wouldn't see any problems with using an off the shelf product, as long as it worked with vo. I just use the book mark features, for example that are in k1000 whilest studying, for example, for marking important bits of text so I can find them later on and obviously want something similar or close and I just don't know what's out there. It seems like the I work package comes close to what I have with office, if not better, as long as it works with vo(apple says it does), so the only thing that is holding me off from taking the apple plunge all the way is this k1000 thing. The kurzweil people said we could upgrade to the 3000 version which is made for the mac, but they forgot to tell my husband and me that it doesn't talk! We don't know if it works with vo, but the upgrade would not cost us that much, if we did it that way, since we already own k1000 v. 12.something. Cait From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 11:17 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: scanning and the mac Would you be prepared to consider an off the shelf scanning system for your Mac? Meaning something like Abey Fine Reader? No, its not self voicing but you can get around it with Voiceover so some knowledge of how Voiceover works will be a must before you use it but that will come anyway if you plan to use Voiceover with your Mac . Running a dual boot system or a virtual machine just to run Kurzweil seems to be going to one hell of a lot of trouble to me , I know where you're coming from with Kurzweil though as I've used it here on my Windows PC and no one can deny its a great package - even though its massively overpriced in my humble opinion - but as I said before, you a little knowledge of Voicoever will go a long way and save you a lot of time. On 17/02/2011 3:11 AM, Caitlyn and Nickels wrote: > Hi, > > We have been kicking around the idea of getting a couple of new macs for a > couple of weeks now since bothour pc's are not working that great anymore. > The main thing that is holding us back is our heavy reliance on Kurzweil. I > am a grad student and we also use k1000 for scanning our mail daily. I know > we could either do a duel boot system or run a virtual machine and then can > use k1000 this way on the mac, but I wanted to ask knowledgable folks first > about this before we jumped in. > > We heard about another kurzweil product that is for the mac, but it's not > self voicing, and I don't know if vo works with it. Does anybody have any > mac specific solutions that work well for scanning text books? For scanning > the types we all get in the post? I use the bookmark features in k1000 > quite a lot, plus the dictionary a lot and have preferred it a lot for the > proof reading I do for book share over ms word. > > Oh, that's actually another question, we were told that pages actually isn't > that great or useable... > > Lots of this info is coming from people who don't use vo regularly. > > For us, though, this scanner stuff is the only thing standing in the way. > We do have a old power book, but it's the old non intel mac, so we're stuck > running leopard on it, can't do a virtual machine or anything on it, it > doesn't support the magic track pad, and we can't upgrade to snow leopard or > anything beyond what we already have on it(we already called apple about > it). > > Any help or anything would be appreciated! > > Thanks, > Caitlyn > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. _ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1435/3447 - Release Date: 02/16/11 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: scanning and the mac
Hi, the only real viable solution I've seen is the Eyepal. While I'm not overwhelmed with the product it's fast and accurate, supports braille at least for now, batch scans, saves to mp3, and otherwise does more or less what the literature says it does. Many people have gotten off the shelf programs to work for them which is great, but so far no one has proven it to me. Best, Erik Burggraaf User support consultant, Now posting occasionally on twitter at eburggraaf, 1-888-255-5194 http://www.erik-burggraaf.com On 2011-02-16, at 11:11 AM, Caitlyn and Nickels wrote: > Hi, > > We have been kicking around the idea of getting a couple of new macs for a > couple of weeks now since bothour pc's are not working that great anymore. > The main thing that is holding us back is our heavy reliance on Kurzweil. I > am a grad student and we also use k1000 for scanning our mail daily. I know > we could either do a duel boot system or run a virtual machine and then can > use k1000 this way on the mac, but I wanted to ask knowledgable folks first > about this before we jumped in. > > We heard about another kurzweil product that is for the mac, but it's not > self voicing, and I don't know if vo works with it. Does anybody have any > mac specific solutions that work well for scanning text books? For scanning > the types we all get in the post? I use the bookmark features in k1000 > quite a lot, plus the dictionary a lot and have preferred it a lot for the > proof reading I do for book share over ms word. > > Oh, that's actually another question, we were told that pages actually isn't > that great or useable... > > Lots of this info is coming from people who don't use vo regularly. > > For us, though, this scanner stuff is the only thing standing in the way. > We do have a old power book, but it's the old non intel mac, so we're stuck > running leopard on it, can't do a virtual machine or anything on it, it > doesn't support the magic track pad, and we can't upgrade to snow leopard or > anything beyond what we already have on it(we already called apple about > it). > > Any help or anything would be appreciated! > > Thanks, > Caitlyn > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: scanning and the mac
Hi. I understand it so far that braille support will stop in both zoom-ex and eyepal, is that correct. To me it is not an option to have a scanning solution that can not be used with braille. If eyepal/zoom-ex will run in a way so it could work together with voiceOver it would be great, easy to use, good quality of scanning, but still not as good as finereader 10. I have worked with both readiris and finereader for the mac, to me it is not good enough. It is one of the last things I still use my windows for. But I hope that there will be a solution in the future, so I also can scan with my mac. Best regards Annie. On 16/02/2011, at 23.32, erik burggraaf wrote: > Hi, the only real viable solution I've seen is the Eyepal. While I'm not > overwhelmed with the product it's fast and accurate, supports braille at > least for now, batch scans, saves to mp3, and otherwise does more or less > what the literature says it does. > > Many people have gotten off the shelf programs to work for them which is > great, but so far no one has proven it to me. > > Best, > > Erik Burggraaf > User support consultant, > Now posting occasionally on twitter at eburggraaf, > 1-888-255-5194 > http://www.erik-burggraaf.com > > On 2011-02-16, at 11:11 AM, Caitlyn and Nickels wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> We have been kicking around the idea of getting a couple of new macs for a >> couple of weeks now since bothour pc's are not working that great anymore. >> The main thing that is holding us back is our heavy reliance on Kurzweil. I >> am a grad student and we also use k1000 for scanning our mail daily. I know >> we could either do a duel boot system or run a virtual machine and then can >> use k1000 this way on the mac, but I wanted to ask knowledgable folks first >> about this before we jumped in. >> >> We heard about another kurzweil product that is for the mac, but it's not >> self voicing, and I don't know if vo works with it. Does anybody have any >> mac specific solutions that work well for scanning text books? For scanning >> the types we all get in the post? I use the bookmark features in k1000 >> quite a lot, plus the dictionary a lot and have preferred it a lot for the >> proof reading I do for book share over ms word. >> >> Oh, that's actually another question, we were told that pages actually isn't >> that great or useable... >> >> Lots of this info is coming from people who don't use vo regularly. >> >> For us, though, this scanner stuff is the only thing standing in the way. >> We do have a old power book, but it's the old non intel mac, so we're stuck >> running leopard on it, can't do a virtual machine or anything on it, it >> doesn't support the magic track pad, and we can't upgrade to snow leopard or >> anything beyond what we already have on it(we already called apple about >> it). >> >> Any help or anything would be appreciated! >> >> Thanks, >> Caitlyn >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: scanning and the mac
Yes this is true I've strongly discouraged this since I work for a fair few deaf-blind, but I suspect it's a done deal. On the other hand, I've been told that a true voiceover compatible mac solution is in the works. In that case, braille support will be leaps and bounds ahead of where eyepal was on it's own anyway. Best, Erik Burggraaf User support consultant, Now posting occasionally on twitter at eburggraaf, 1-888-255-5194 http://www.erik-burggraaf.com On 2011-02-16, at 5:44 PM, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote: > Hi. > > I understand it so far that braille support will stop in both zoom-ex and > eyepal, is that correct. To me it is not an option to have a scanning > solution that can not be used with braille. If eyepal/zoom-ex will run in a > way so it could work together with voiceOver it would be great, easy to use, > good quality of scanning, but still not as good as finereader 10. > > I have worked with both readiris and finereader for the mac, to me it is not > good enough. > > It is one of the last things I still use my windows for. But I hope that > there will be a solution in the future, so I also can scan with my mac. > Best regards Annie. > On 16/02/2011, at 23.32, erik burggraaf wrote: > >> Hi, the only real viable solution I've seen is the Eyepal. While I'm not >> overwhelmed with the product it's fast and accurate, supports braille at >> least for now, batch scans, saves to mp3, and otherwise does more or less >> what the literature says it does. >> >> Many people have gotten off the shelf programs to work for them which is >> great, but so far no one has proven it to me. >> >> Best, >> >> Erik Burggraaf >> User support consultant, >> Now posting occasionally on twitter at eburggraaf, >> 1-888-255-5194 >> http://www.erik-burggraaf.com >> >> On 2011-02-16, at 11:11 AM, Caitlyn and Nickels wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> We have been kicking around the idea of getting a couple of new macs for a >>> couple of weeks now since bothour pc's are not working that great anymore. >>> The main thing that is holding us back is our heavy reliance on Kurzweil. I >>> am a grad student and we also use k1000 for scanning our mail daily. I know >>> we could either do a duel boot system or run a virtual machine and then can >>> use k1000 this way on the mac, but I wanted to ask knowledgable folks first >>> about this before we jumped in. >>> >>> We heard about another kurzweil product that is for the mac, but it's not >>> self voicing, and I don't know if vo works with it. Does anybody have any >>> mac specific solutions that work well for scanning text books? For scanning >>> the types we all get in the post? I use the bookmark features in k1000 >>> quite a lot, plus the dictionary a lot and have preferred it a lot for the >>> proof reading I do for book share over ms word. >>> >>> Oh, that's actually another question, we were told that pages actually isn't >>> that great or useable... >>> >>> Lots of this info is coming from people who don't use vo regularly. >>> >>> For us, though, this scanner stuff is the only thing standing in the way. >>> We do have a old power book, but it's the old non intel mac, so we're stuck >>> running leopard on it, can't do a virtual machine or anything on it, it >>> doesn't support the magic track pad, and we can't upgrade to snow leopard or >>> anything beyond what we already have on it(we already called apple about >>> it). >>> >>> Any help or anything would be appreciated! >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Caitlyn >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group
Re: scanning and the mac
There is no solution for the Mac equal to K1000 if you use things like the bookmark and other features of that application. The k3000 for Mac is old and not vo-compatible and not appropriate for blind folks. Stick with k1000 and never mind native Mac solutions if you're a power user, which it sounds like you are. You won't be happy with other solutions that don't offer features you're use to and don't offer anything like the convenience of the K1000 application. I have K1000 running on a Windows machine with a bookedge scanner by Plustek. Bootcamp or a vm may work for you. Good luck. Mary Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: scanning and the mac
The iPal now works on a Mac. It is self-voicing. I never considered one, but just heard from a doctoral student friend of mine who swears by it, and its speed. Antonio Guimaraes On Feb 16, 2011, at 11:11 AM, Caitlyn and Nickels wrote: > Hi, > > We have been kicking around the idea of getting a couple of new macs for a > couple of weeks now since bothour pc's are not working that great anymore. > The main thing that is holding us back is our heavy reliance on Kurzweil. I > am a grad student and we also use k1000 for scanning our mail daily. I know > we could either do a duel boot system or run a virtual machine and then can > use k1000 this way on the mac, but I wanted to ask knowledgable folks first > about this before we jumped in. > > We heard about another kurzweil product that is for the mac, but it's not > self voicing, and I don't know if vo works with it. Does anybody have any > mac specific solutions that work well for scanning text books? For scanning > the types we all get in the post? I use the bookmark features in k1000 > quite a lot, plus the dictionary a lot and have preferred it a lot for the > proof reading I do for book share over ms word. > > Oh, that's actually another question, we were told that pages actually isn't > that great or useable... > > Lots of this info is coming from people who don't use vo regularly. > > For us, though, this scanner stuff is the only thing standing in the way. > We do have a old power book, but it's the old non intel mac, so we're stuck > running leopard on it, can't do a virtual machine or anything on it, it > doesn't support the magic track pad, and we can't upgrade to snow leopard or > anything beyond what we already have on it(we already called apple about > it). > > Any help or anything would be appreciated! > > Thanks, > Caitlyn > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: scanning and the mac
iPal is now working in conjunction with K-1000. If you are okay with buying yet another expensive software solution, check directly with the ipal people as I believe they are soon anouncing a pricing deal for K-1000 users. Antonio Guimaraes On Feb 16, 2011, at 10:54 PM, Mary Otten wrote: > There is no solution for the Mac equal to K1000 if you use things like the > bookmark and other features of that application. The k3000 for Mac is old and > not vo-compatible and not appropriate for blind folks. Stick with k1000 and > never mind native Mac solutions if you're a power user, which it sounds like > you are. You won't be happy with other solutions that don't offer features > you're use to and don't offer anything like the convenience of the K1000 > application. I have K1000 running on a Windows machine with a bookedge > scanner by Plustek. Bootcamp or a vm may work for you. Good luck. > > Mary > Mary Otten > motte...@gmail.com > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: scanning and the mac
What is iPal? Is it an apple off-the-shelf scanning software program? Or is it a Kurzweil product? Brian M -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Antonio M. Guimaraes Jr. Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 12:01 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: scanning and the mac The iPal now works on a Mac. It is self-voicing. I never considered one, but just heard from a doctoral student friend of mine who swears by it, and its speed. Antonio Guimaraes On Feb 16, 2011, at 11:11 AM, Caitlyn and Nickels wrote: > Hi, > > We have been kicking around the idea of getting a couple of new macs > for a couple of weeks now since bothour pc's are not working that great anymore. > The main thing that is holding us back is our heavy reliance on > Kurzweil. I am a grad student and we also use k1000 for scanning our > mail daily. I know we could either do a duel boot system or run a > virtual machine and then can use k1000 this way on the mac, but I > wanted to ask knowledgable folks first about this before we jumped in. > > We heard about another kurzweil product that is for the mac, but it's not > self voicing, and I don't know if vo works with it. Does anybody have any > mac specific solutions that work well for scanning text books? For > scanning the types we all get in the post? I use the bookmark > features in k1000 quite a lot, plus the dictionary a lot and have > preferred it a lot for the proof reading I do for book share over ms word. > > Oh, that's actually another question, we were told that pages actually > isn't that great or useable... > > Lots of this info is coming from people who don't use vo regularly. > > For us, though, this scanner stuff is the only thing standing in the way. > We do have a old power book, but it's the old non intel mac, so we're > stuck running leopard on it, can't do a virtual machine or anything on > it, it doesn't support the magic track pad, and we can't upgrade to > snow leopard or anything beyond what we already have on it(we already > called apple about it). > > Any help or anything would be appreciated! > > Thanks, > Caitlyn > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: scanning and the mac
But you have to have both packages. Andy "I'm pretty good at drinkin beer." -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Antonio M. Guimaraes Jr. Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 9:06 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: scanning and the mac iPal is now working in conjunction with K-1000. If you are okay with buying yet another expensive software solution, check directly with the ipal people as I believe they are soon anouncing a pricing deal for K-1000 users. Antonio Guimaraes On Feb 16, 2011, at 10:54 PM, Mary Otten wrote: > There is no solution for the Mac equal to K1000 if you use things like the bookmark and other features of that application. The k3000 for Mac is old and not vo-compatible and not appropriate for blind folks. Stick with k1000 and never mind native Mac solutions if you're a power user, which it sounds like you are. You won't be happy with other solutions that don't offer features you're use to and don't offer anything like the convenience of the K1000 application. I have K1000 running on a Windows machine with a bookedge scanner by Plustek. Bootcamp or a vm may work for you. Good luck. > > Mary > Mary Otten > motte...@gmail.com > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: scanning and the mac
Brian, Eye-pal is a scanning solution offered for sale by abisee, a company in Massachusetts. It was written for Windows and ported to the Mac, but it is not vo-compatible at all; it is self voicing. It uses a camera rather than a flat-bed scanner for image acquisition, and it is now possible to use the camera portion of the package together with the k1000 software. I haven't any idea what the camera sells for separately. Mary Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: scanning and the mac
Hi Eric' That sounds interesting. Is that a solution from abisee or is it another solution. Best regards Sendt fra min iPhone Den 17/02/2011 kl. 00.04 skrev erik burggraaf : > Yes this is true I've strongly discouraged this since I work for a fair few > deaf-blind, but I suspect it's a done deal. On the other hand, I've been > told that a true voiceover compatible mac solution is in the works. In that > case, braille support will be leaps and bounds ahead of where eyepal was on > it's own anyway. > > Best, > > Erik Burggraaf > User support consultant, > Now posting occasionally on twitter at eburggraaf, > 1-888-255-5194 > http://www.erik-burggraaf.com > > On 2011-02-16, at 5:44 PM, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote: > >> Hi. >> >> I understand it so far that braille support will stop in both zoom-ex and >> eyepal, is that correct. To me it is not an option to have a scanning >> solution that can not be used with braille. If eyepal/zoom-ex will run in a >> way so it could work together with voiceOver it would be great, easy to use, >> good quality of scanning, but still not as good as finereader 10. >> >> I have worked with both readiris and finereader for the mac, to me it is not >> good enough. >> >> It is one of the last things I still use my windows for. But I hope that >> there will be a solution in the future, so I also can scan with my mac. >> Best regards Annie. >> On 16/02/2011, at 23.32, erik burggraaf wrote: >> >>> Hi, the only real viable solution I've seen is the Eyepal. While I'm not >>> overwhelmed with the product it's fast and accurate, supports braille at >>> least for now, batch scans, saves to mp3, and otherwise does more or less >>> what the literature says it does. >>> >>> Many people have gotten off the shelf programs to work for them which is >>> great, but so far no one has proven it to me. >>> >>> Best, >>> >>> Erik Burggraaf >>> User support consultant, >>> Now posting occasionally on twitter at eburggraaf, >>> 1-888-255-5194 >>> http://www.erik-burggraaf.com >>> >>> On 2011-02-16, at 11:11 AM, Caitlyn and Nickels wrote: >>> Hi, We have been kicking around the idea of getting a couple of new macs for a couple of weeks now since bothour pc's are not working that great anymore. The main thing that is holding us back is our heavy reliance on Kurzweil. I am a grad student and we also use k1000 for scanning our mail daily. I know we could either do a duel boot system or run a virtual machine and then can use k1000 this way on the mac, but I wanted to ask knowledgable folks first about this before we jumped in. We heard about another kurzweil product that is for the mac, but it's not self voicing, and I don't know if vo works with it. Does anybody have any mac specific solutions that work well for scanning text books? For scanning the types we all get in the post? I use the bookmark features in k1000 quite a lot, plus the dictionary a lot and have preferred it a lot for the proof reading I do for book share over ms word. Oh, that's actually another question, we were told that pages actually isn't that great or useable... Lots of this info is coming from people who don't use vo regularly. For us, though, this scanner stuff is the only thing standing in the way. We do have a old power book, but it's the old non intel mac, so we're stuck running leopard on it, can't do a virtual machine or anything on it, it doesn't support the magic track pad, and we can't upgrade to snow leopard or anything beyond what we already have on it(we already called apple about it). Any help or anything would be appreciated! Thanks, Caitlyn -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.g
Re: scanning and the mac
Sorry about that I was in a rush and didn't make myself clear. The ABISee people have told me that a fully integrated mac software for the Eyepal is in development but they didn't give me a timeframe. Best, Erik Burggraaf User support consultant, Now posting occasionally on twitter at eburggraaf, 1-888-255-5194 http://www.erik-burggraaf.com On 2011-02-17, at 5:52 PM, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote: > Hi Eric' > > That sounds interesting. Is that a solution from abisee or is it another > solution. > > Best regards > > > > Sendt fra min iPhone > > Den 17/02/2011 kl. 00.04 skrev erik burggraaf : > >> Yes this is true I've strongly discouraged this since I work for a fair few >> deaf-blind, but I suspect it's a done deal. On the other hand, I've been >> told that a true voiceover compatible mac solution is in the works. In that >> case, braille support will be leaps and bounds ahead of where eyepal was on >> it's own anyway. >> >> Best, >> >> Erik Burggraaf >> User support consultant, >> Now posting occasionally on twitter at eburggraaf, >> 1-888-255-5194 >> http://www.erik-burggraaf.com >> >> On 2011-02-16, at 5:44 PM, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote: >> >>> Hi. >>> >>> I understand it so far that braille support will stop in both zoom-ex and >>> eyepal, is that correct. To me it is not an option to have a scanning >>> solution that can not be used with braille. If eyepal/zoom-ex will run in a >>> way so it could work together with voiceOver it would be great, easy to >>> use, good quality of scanning, but still not as good as finereader 10. >>> >>> I have worked with both readiris and finereader for the mac, to me it is >>> not good enough. >>> >>> It is one of the last things I still use my windows for. But I hope that >>> there will be a solution in the future, so I also can scan with my mac. >>> Best regards Annie. >>> On 16/02/2011, at 23.32, erik burggraaf wrote: >>> Hi, the only real viable solution I've seen is the Eyepal. While I'm not overwhelmed with the product it's fast and accurate, supports braille at least for now, batch scans, saves to mp3, and otherwise does more or less what the literature says it does. Many people have gotten off the shelf programs to work for them which is great, but so far no one has proven it to me. Best, Erik Burggraaf User support consultant, Now posting occasionally on twitter at eburggraaf, 1-888-255-5194 http://www.erik-burggraaf.com On 2011-02-16, at 11:11 AM, Caitlyn and Nickels wrote: > Hi, > > We have been kicking around the idea of getting a couple of new macs for a > couple of weeks now since bothour pc's are not working that great anymore. > The main thing that is holding us back is our heavy reliance on Kurzweil. > I > am a grad student and we also use k1000 for scanning our mail daily. I > know > we could either do a duel boot system or run a virtual machine and then > can > use k1000 this way on the mac, but I wanted to ask knowledgable folks > first > about this before we jumped in. > > We heard about another kurzweil product that is for the mac, but it's not > self voicing, and I don't know if vo works with it. Does anybody have > any > mac specific solutions that work well for scanning text books? For > scanning > the types we all get in the post? I use the bookmark features in k1000 > quite a lot, plus the dictionary a lot and have preferred it a lot for the > proof reading I do for book share over ms word. > > Oh, that's actually another question, we were told that pages actually > isn't > that great or useable... > > Lots of this info is coming from people who don't use vo regularly. > > For us, though, this scanner stuff is the only thing standing in the way. > We do have a old power book, but it's the old non intel mac, so we're > stuck > running leopard on it, can't do a virtual machine or anything on it, it > doesn't support the magic track pad, and we can't upgrade to snow leopard > or > anything beyond what we already have on it(we already called apple about > it). > > Any help or anything would be appreciated! > > Thanks, > Caitlyn > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegro
Re: scanning and the mac
You are right on, the only accessible OCR for Mac right now is Eye-Pal which has no where close to the features of Kurzweil1000. The best solution at this time is K11000 in Windows and with the latest Fusion you should be able to setup a hotkey so that you can actually launch K1000 while you are still in Snow Leopard and Fusion will handle getting you over to Windows, launching K1000; which isn't half bad. Just a word of warning here. After more than one experience; stay away from the Mac Book Pro 13 inch laptop. There appears to be a problem with not always getting sound on the Windows side of things which apparently can only be solved by installing a USB soundcard to use for sound on the Windows side of things. Again, this only seems to happen with the 13 inch model of Mac Book Pro. - Original Message - From: "Mary Otten" To: Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 9:54 PM Subject: Re: scanning and the mac There is no solution for the Mac equal to K1000 if you use things like the bookmark and other features of that application. The k3000 for Mac is old and not vo-compatible and not appropriate for blind folks. Stick with k1000 and never mind native Mac solutions if you're a power user, which it sounds like you are. You won't be happy with other solutions that don't offer features you're use to and don't offer anything like the convenience of the K1000 application. I have K1000 running on a Windows machine with a bookedge scanner by Plustek. Bootcamp or a vm may work for you. Good luck. Mary Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: scanning and the mac
It certainly works, features are somewhat limited, it does not use VoiceOver, and is not setup like a standard Apple application. Instead it has been ported over to Apple using its' own speech and essentually the same keys as the Windows version. But, it is better than nothing. - Original Message - From: "Antonio M. Guimaraes Jr." To: Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 11:00 PM Subject: Re: scanning and the mac The iPal now works on a Mac. It is self-voicing. I never considered one, but just heard from a doctoral student friend of mine who swears by it, and its speed. Antonio Guimaraes On Feb 16, 2011, at 11:11 AM, Caitlyn and Nickels wrote: Hi, We have been kicking around the idea of getting a couple of new macs for a couple of weeks now since bothour pc's are not working that great anymore. The main thing that is holding us back is our heavy reliance on Kurzweil. I am a grad student and we also use k1000 for scanning our mail daily. I know we could either do a duel boot system or run a virtual machine and then can use k1000 this way on the mac, but I wanted to ask knowledgable folks first about this before we jumped in. We heard about another kurzweil product that is for the mac, but it's not self voicing, and I don't know if vo works with it. Does anybody have any mac specific solutions that work well for scanning text books? For scanning the types we all get in the post? I use the bookmark features in k1000 quite a lot, plus the dictionary a lot and have preferred it a lot for the proof reading I do for book share over ms word. Oh, that's actually another question, we were told that pages actually isn't that great or useable... Lots of this info is coming from people who don't use vo regularly. For us, though, this scanner stuff is the only thing standing in the way. We do have a old power book, but it's the old non intel mac, so we're stuck running leopard on it, can't do a virtual machine or anything on it, it doesn't support the magic track pad, and we can't upgrade to snow leopard or anything beyond what we already have on it(we already called apple about it). Any help or anything would be appreciated! Thanks, Caitlyn -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: scanning and the mac
Stephen at Kurzweil told me that you can't buy the camera separately, and you can't use it separately. The Eye-Pal software must be installed, as k1000 needs to access components of the Eye-Pal software, so if you are going to use K1000 with the Eye-Pal camera, you will need to purchase both packages. Andy "I'm pretty good at drinkin beer." -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 6:10 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: scanning and the mac Brian, Eye-pal is a scanning solution offered for sale by abisee, a company in Massachusetts. It was written for Windows and ported to the Mac, but it is not vo-compatible at all; it is self voicing. It uses a camera rather than a flat-bed scanner for image acquisition, and it is now possible to use the camera portion of the package together with the k1000 software. I haven't any idea what the camera sells for separately. Mary Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: scanning and the mac
It is a Windows OCR product for blind that has been ported to the Mac. It is made by ABISEE Company http://www.abisee.com. And the process for getting the Apple version of the software is as follows at this time. 1. Purchase the Windows version of Eye-Pal from Abisee or a dealor of Abisee products such as Handy Tech North America 651-636-5184. Then you go to the Abisee website and download Pro. the Apple version of the software onto your Apple and install it. All that is left to do then is plug the camera into a USB on your Mac and you are ready to go. Meantime, if you already had Kurzweil1000 on the Windows side of your Mac in Bootcamp you could now have your choice of using a scanner with K1000 or using the Eye-Pal digital camera with K1000; which wil colaps into a very easy to cary bundle you can carry in a laptop case with your Macbook - Original Message - From: "Brian Miller" To: Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 6:01 AM Subject: RE: scanning and the mac What is iPal? Is it an apple off-the-shelf scanning software program? Or is it a Kurzweil product? Brian M -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Antonio M. Guimaraes Jr. Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 12:01 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: scanning and the mac The iPal now works on a Mac. It is self-voicing. I never considered one, but just heard from a doctoral student friend of mine who swears by it, and its speed. Antonio Guimaraes On Feb 16, 2011, at 11:11 AM, Caitlyn and Nickels wrote: Hi, We have been kicking around the idea of getting a couple of new macs for a couple of weeks now since bothour pc's are not working that great anymore. The main thing that is holding us back is our heavy reliance on Kurzweil. I am a grad student and we also use k1000 for scanning our mail daily. I know we could either do a duel boot system or run a virtual machine and then can use k1000 this way on the mac, but I wanted to ask knowledgable folks first about this before we jumped in. We heard about another kurzweil product that is for the mac, but it's not self voicing, and I don't know if vo works with it. Does anybody have any mac specific solutions that work well for scanning text books? For scanning the types we all get in the post? I use the bookmark features in k1000 quite a lot, plus the dictionary a lot and have preferred it a lot for the proof reading I do for book share over ms word. Oh, that's actually another question, we were told that pages actually isn't that great or useable... Lots of this info is coming from people who don't use vo regularly. For us, though, this scanner stuff is the only thing standing in the way. We do have a old power book, but it's the old non intel mac, so we're stuck running leopard on it, can't do a virtual machine or anything on it, it doesn't support the magic track pad, and we can't upgrade to snow leopard or anything beyond what we already have on it(we already called apple about it). Any help or anything would be appreciated! Thanks, Caitlyn -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: scanning and the mac
At this point you can't buy the camera separately. - Original Message - From: "Mary Otten" To: Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 8:09 AM Subject: Re: scanning and the mac Brian, Eye-pal is a scanning solution offered for sale by abisee, a company in Massachusetts. It was written for Windows and ported to the Mac, but it is not vo-compatible at all; it is self voicing. It uses a camera rather than a flat-bed scanner for image acquisition, and it is now possible to use the camera portion of the package together with the k1000 software. I haven't any idea what the camera sells for separately. Mary Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: scanning and the mac
Abisee is offering a price break to k1000 users according to their website. It still means you pay close to a grand for the eyepal, and if you already own the K1000 and a scanner, putting out that kind of money for the convenience of using a camera rather than a scanner seems a bit much. But maybe it would be worth it for some. Mary Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: scanning and the mac
That seems quite odd, as I have a iMac and a 13 inch Macbook Pro, and VM Fusion is fine on the Macbook. I also have the iPal Solo (stand alone version of the iPal). I opted for this as I did not realise at the time they were working on Mac software. On 18 Feb 2011, at 01:40, David Tanner wrote: > You are right on, the only accessible OCR for Mac right now is Eye-Pal which > has no where close to the features of Kurzweil1000. The best solution at > this time is K11000 in Windows and with the latest Fusion you should be able > to setup a hotkey so that you can actually launch K1000 while you are still > in Snow Leopard and Fusion will handle getting you over to Windows, launching > K1000; which isn't half bad. > > Just a word of warning here. After more than one experience; stay away from > the Mac Book Pro 13 inch laptop. There appears to be a problem with not > always getting sound on the Windows side of things which apparently can only > be solved by installing a USB soundcard to use for sound on the Windows side > of things. Again, this only seems to happen with the 13 inch model of Mac > Book Pro. > > > > - Original Message - From: "Mary Otten" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 9:54 PM > Subject: Re: scanning and the mac > > > There is no solution for the Mac equal to K1000 if you use things like the > bookmark and other features of that application. The k3000 for Mac is old and > not vo-compatible and not appropriate for blind folks. Stick with k1000 and > never mind native Mac solutions if you're a power user, which it sounds like > you are. You won't be happy with other solutions that don't offer features > you're use to and don't offer anything like the convenience of the K1000 > application. I have K1000 running on a Windows machine with a bookedge > scanner by Plustek. Bootcamp or a vm may work for you. Good luck. > > Mary > Mary Otten > motte...@gmail.com > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: scanning and the mac
WIth regard to the sound not functioning on the 13-inch MBP while in the Windows VM, I have not had any problems at all. The 13-inch MBP I is maybe a year old and provided by my employer. So, even with all their tweaks and such, I have yet to encounter any failure in sound while in the VM. I am wondering if this is more an issue with older 13-inch MBPs. Scott On Feb 17, 2011, at 8:52 PM, David Tanner wrote: > It certainly works, features are somewhat limited, it does not use VoiceOver, > and is not setup like a standard Apple application. Instead it has been > ported over to Apple using its' own speech and essentually the same keys as > the Windows version. But, it is better than nothing. > > > > - Original Message - From: "Antonio M. Guimaraes Jr." > > To: > Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 11:00 PM > Subject: Re: scanning and the mac > > >> The iPal now works on a Mac. >> >> It is self-voicing. >> >> I never considered one, but just heard from a doctoral student friend of >> mine who swears by it, and its speed. >> >> Antonio Guimaraes >> >> On Feb 16, 2011, at 11:11 AM, Caitlyn and Nickels wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> We have been kicking around the idea of getting a couple of new macs for a >>> couple of weeks now since bothour pc's are not working that great anymore. >>> The main thing that is holding us back is our heavy reliance on Kurzweil. I >>> am a grad student and we also use k1000 for scanning our mail daily. I know >>> we could either do a duel boot system or run a virtual machine and then can >>> use k1000 this way on the mac, but I wanted to ask knowledgable folks first >>> about this before we jumped in. >>> >>> We heard about another kurzweil product that is for the mac, but it's not >>> self voicing, and I don't know if vo works with it. Does anybody have any >>> mac specific solutions that work well for scanning text books? For scanning >>> the types we all get in the post? I use the bookmark features in k1000 >>> quite a lot, plus the dictionary a lot and have preferred it a lot for the >>> proof reading I do for book share over ms word. >>> >>> Oh, that's actually another question, we were told that pages actually isn't >>> that great or useable... >>> >>> Lots of this info is coming from people who don't use vo regularly. >>> >>> For us, though, this scanner stuff is the only thing standing in the way. >>> We do have a old power book, but it's the old non intel mac, so we're stuck >>> running leopard on it, can't do a virtual machine or anything on it, it >>> doesn't support the magic track pad, and we can't upgrade to snow leopard or >>> anything beyond what we already have on it(we already called apple about >>> it). >>> >>> Any help or anything would be appreciated! >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Caitlyn >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: scanning and the mac
Hi all, I believe that the problem is not loosing sound in the VM, but on the Windows side in a Boot Camp partition. I have set-up several 13 inch Macbook Pro and invariably experienced the problem of loosing sound on the Windows side. Last time, we were thrilled because we got sound to work, installed all the software and then imported the Boot Camp image into a VM and this process when flawlessly; however, the next time we booted to the Windows side of the dual boot, sound was gone. Sighted assist found that nothing was muted and volume was at 100 percent. Reinstalling drivers from the Apple OS CD did not resolve the problem. On calling the support departments of both OS's, Microsoft blamed Apple, Apple blamed Microsoft and the customer decided that working in a VM was best anyway. Interestingly as David observed, plugging in a cheep USB sound card works great on the Windows side of a dual boot system, but what a drag to have to resort to this. Cheers, Earle On Feb 18, 2011, at 4:29 AM, Scott Howell wrote: > WIth regard to the sound not functioning on the 13-inch MBP while in the > Windows VM, I have not had any problems at all. The 13-inch MBP I is maybe a > year old and provided by my employer. So, even with all their tweaks and > such, I have yet to encounter any failure in sound while in the VM. I am > wondering if this is more an issue with older 13-inch MBPs. > Scott > > > > > > On Feb 17, 2011, at 8:52 PM, David Tanner wrote: > >> It certainly works, features are somewhat limited, it does not use >> VoiceOver, and is not setup like a standard Apple application. Instead it >> has been ported over to Apple using its' own speech and essentually the same >> keys as the Windows version. But, it is better than nothing. >> >> >> >> - Original Message - From: "Antonio M. Guimaraes Jr." >> >> To: >> Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 11:00 PM >> Subject: Re: scanning and the mac >> >> >>> The iPal now works on a Mac. >>> >>> It is self-voicing. >>> >>> I never considered one, but just heard from a doctoral student friend of >>> mine who swears by it, and its speed. >>> >>> Antonio Guimaraes >>> >>> On Feb 16, 2011, at 11:11 AM, Caitlyn and Nickels wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> We have been kicking around the idea of getting a couple of new macs for a >>>> couple of weeks now since bothour pc's are not working that great anymore. >>>> The main thing that is holding us back is our heavy reliance on Kurzweil. I >>>> am a grad student and we also use k1000 for scanning our mail daily. I >>>> know >>>> we could either do a duel boot system or run a virtual machine and then can >>>> use k1000 this way on the mac, but I wanted to ask knowledgable folks first >>>> about this before we jumped in. >>>> >>>> We heard about another kurzweil product that is for the mac, but it's not >>>> self voicing, and I don't know if vo works with it. Does anybody have any >>>> mac specific solutions that work well for scanning text books? For >>>> scanning >>>> the types we all get in the post? I use the bookmark features in k1000 >>>> quite a lot, plus the dictionary a lot and have preferred it a lot for the >>>> proof reading I do for book share over ms word. >>>> >>>> Oh, that's actually another question, we were told that pages actually >>>> isn't >>>> that great or useable... >>>> >>>> Lots of this info is coming from people who don't use vo regularly. >>>> >>>> For us, though, this scanner stuff is the only thing standing in the way. >>>> We do have a old power book, but it's the old non intel mac, so we're stuck >>>> running leopard on it, can't do a virtual machine or anything on it, it >>>> doesn't support the magic track pad, and we can't upgrade to snow leopard >>>> or >>>> anything beyond what we already have on it(we already called apple about >>>> it). >>>> >>>> Any help or anything would be appreciated! >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Caitlyn >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.co
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Earle, That just solves the problem, only go the way of the VM. See the VM is supreme since you can close Windows when it acts poorly. :) Actually I have been very pleased with the entire concept of the VM and now I can actually enjoy only using the things in windows I absolutely must. However, I would like to just stay in the Mac environment if I had my choice. Scott On Feb 18, 2011, at 7:17 AM, Earle M. Harrison wrote: > Hi all, > > I believe that the problem is not loosing sound in the VM, but on the Windows > side in a Boot Camp partition. I have set-up several 13 inch Macbook Pro and > invariably experienced the problem of loosing sound on the Windows side. > Last time, we were thrilled because we got sound to work, installed all the > software and then imported the Boot Camp image into a VM and this process > when flawlessly; however, the next time we booted to the Windows side of the > dual boot, sound was gone. Sighted assist found that nothing was muted and > volume was at 100 percent. Reinstalling drivers from the Apple OS CD did not > resolve the problem. On calling the support departments of both OS's, > Microsoft blamed Apple, Apple blamed Microsoft and the customer decided that > working in a VM was best anyway. Interestingly as David observed, plugging > in a cheep USB sound card works great on the Windows side of a dual boot > system, but what a drag to have to resort to this. > > Cheers, > > Earle > > On Feb 18, 2011, at 4:29 AM, Scott Howell wrote: > >> WIth regard to the sound not functioning on the 13-inch MBP while in the >> Windows VM, I have not had any problems at all. The 13-inch MBP I is maybe a >> year old and provided by my employer. So, even with all their tweaks and >> such, I have yet to encounter any failure in sound while in the VM. I am >> wondering if this is more an issue with older 13-inch MBPs. >> Scott >> >> >> >> >> >> On Feb 17, 2011, at 8:52 PM, David Tanner wrote: >> >>> It certainly works, features are somewhat limited, it does not use >>> VoiceOver, and is not setup like a standard Apple application. Instead it >>> has been ported over to Apple using its' own speech and essentually the >>> same keys as the Windows version. But, it is better than nothing. >>> >>> >>> >>> - Original Message - From: "Antonio M. Guimaraes Jr." >>> >>> To: >>> Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 11:00 PM >>> Subject: Re: scanning and the mac >>> >>> >>>> The iPal now works on a Mac. >>>> >>>> It is self-voicing. >>>> >>>> I never considered one, but just heard from a doctoral student friend of >>>> mine who swears by it, and its speed. >>>> >>>> Antonio Guimaraes >>>> >>>> On Feb 16, 2011, at 11:11 AM, Caitlyn and Nickels wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> We have been kicking around the idea of getting a couple of new macs for a >>>>> couple of weeks now since bothour pc's are not working that great anymore. >>>>> The main thing that is holding us back is our heavy reliance on Kurzweil. >>>>> I >>>>> am a grad student and we also use k1000 for scanning our mail daily. I >>>>> know >>>>> we could either do a duel boot system or run a virtual machine and then >>>>> can >>>>> use k1000 this way on the mac, but I wanted to ask knowledgable folks >>>>> first >>>>> about this before we jumped in. >>>>> >>>>> We heard about another kurzweil product that is for the mac, but it's not >>>>> self voicing, and I don't know if vo works with it. Does anybody have >>>>> any >>>>> mac specific solutions that work well for scanning text books? For >>>>> scanning >>>>> the types we all get in the post? I use the bookmark features in k1000 >>>>> quite a lot, plus the dictionary a lot and have preferred it a lot for the >>>>> proof reading I do for book share over ms word. >>>>> >>>>> Oh, that's actually another question, we were told that pages actually >>>>> isn't >>>>> that great or useable... >>>>> >>>>> Lots of this info is coming from people who don't use vo regularly. >>>>> >>>>> For us, though, this scanne
Re: scanning and the mac
I also have a 13 inch MBP running windows under VMWare Fusion with no sound issues whatsoever. I'm running Jaws 12 over there as well. My MBP is 15 months old. On Feb 18, 2011, at 5:29 AM, Scott Howell wrote: > WIth regard to the sound not functioning on the 13-inch MBP while in the > Windows VM, I have not had any problems at all. The 13-inch MBP I is maybe a > year old and provided by my employer. So, even with all their tweaks and > such, I have yet to encounter any failure in sound while in the VM. I am > wondering if this is more an issue with older 13-inch MBPs. > Scott > > > > > > On Feb 17, 2011, at 8:52 PM, David Tanner wrote: > >> It certainly works, features are somewhat limited, it does not use >> VoiceOver, and is not setup like a standard Apple application. Instead it >> has been ported over to Apple using its' own speech and essentually the same >> keys as the Windows version. But, it is better than nothing. >> >> >> >> - Original Message - From: "Antonio M. Guimaraes Jr." >> >> To: >> Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 11:00 PM >> Subject: Re: scanning and the mac >> >> >>> The iPal now works on a Mac. >>> >>> It is self-voicing. >>> >>> I never considered one, but just heard from a doctoral student friend of >>> mine who swears by it, and its speed. >>> >>> Antonio Guimaraes >>> >>> On Feb 16, 2011, at 11:11 AM, Caitlyn and Nickels wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> We have been kicking around the idea of getting a couple of new macs for a >>>> couple of weeks now since bothour pc's are not working that great anymore. >>>> The main thing that is holding us back is our heavy reliance on Kurzweil. I >>>> am a grad student and we also use k1000 for scanning our mail daily. I >>>> know >>>> we could either do a duel boot system or run a virtual machine and then can >>>> use k1000 this way on the mac, but I wanted to ask knowledgable folks first >>>> about this before we jumped in. >>>> >>>> We heard about another kurzweil product that is for the mac, but it's not >>>> self voicing, and I don't know if vo works with it. Does anybody have any >>>> mac specific solutions that work well for scanning text books? For >>>> scanning >>>> the types we all get in the post? I use the bookmark features in k1000 >>>> quite a lot, plus the dictionary a lot and have preferred it a lot for the >>>> proof reading I do for book share over ms word. >>>> >>>> Oh, that's actually another question, we were told that pages actually >>>> isn't >>>> that great or useable... >>>> >>>> Lots of this info is coming from people who don't use vo regularly. >>>> >>>> For us, though, this scanner stuff is the only thing standing in the way. >>>> We do have a old power book, but it's the old non intel mac, so we're stuck >>>> running leopard on it, can't do a virtual machine or anything on it, it >>>> doesn't support the magic track pad, and we can't upgrade to snow leopard >>>> or >>>> anything beyond what we already have on it(we already called apple about >>>> it). >>>> >>>> Any help or anything would be appreciated! >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Caitlyn >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because yo
Re: scanning and the mac
It isn't Fusion that is the problem. The issue is if you try to run Windows without running it as a virtual machine. The sound usually works if you are running Windows through Fusion as a virtual machine. But, if you choose to boot to Windows instead of booting into Snow Leopard and boot directly into Windows there is a good chance that you will not have any sound in Windows due to some kind of sound driver problem that Apple and Microsoft neither seem to have a good answer to. But, luckily it only happens on the MacBook Pro 13. I have the MacBook Pro 15 and have never had the problem with mine or any of the about 15 machines that I have setup with both Windows 7 and Snow Leopard. - Original Message - From: "Chris Moore" To: Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 2:09 AM Subject: Re: scanning and the mac That seems quite odd, as I have a iMac and a 13 inch Macbook Pro, and VM Fusion is fine on the Macbook. I also have the iPal Solo (stand alone version of the iPal). I opted for this as I did not realise at the time they were working on Mac software. On 18 Feb 2011, at 01:40, David Tanner wrote: You are right on, the only accessible OCR for Mac right now is Eye-Pal which has no where close to the features of Kurzweil1000. The best solution at this time is K11000 in Windows and with the latest Fusion you should be able to setup a hotkey so that you can actually launch K1000 while you are still in Snow Leopard and Fusion will handle getting you over to Windows, launching K1000; which isn't half bad. Just a word of warning here. After more than one experience; stay away from the Mac Book Pro 13 inch laptop. There appears to be a problem with not always getting sound on the Windows side of things which apparently can only be solved by installing a USB soundcard to use for sound on the Windows side of things. Again, this only seems to happen with the 13 inch model of Mac Book Pro. - Original Message - From: "Mary Otten" To: Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 9:54 PM Subject: Re: scanning and the mac There is no solution for the Mac equal to K1000 if you use things like the bookmark and other features of that application. The k3000 for Mac is old and not vo-compatible and not appropriate for blind folks. Stick with k1000 and never mind native Mac solutions if you're a power user, which it sounds like you are. You won't be happy with other solutions that don't offer features you're use to and don't offer anything like the convenience of the K1000 application. I have K1000 running on a Windows machine with a bookedge scanner by Plustek. Bootcamp or a vm may work for you. Good luck. Mary Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
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I wish I could tell you that it is the older ones. However, we just had the problem again two weeks ago with a brand new one. Again, if I am running Windows as a virtual machine all is well, but if I boot directly into Windows 7 it is a problem. At that point Fusion is not running because I am not running Snow Leopard; I am only running Windows 7 at that point. It is not a problem with Fusion running and Windows running in a virtual Window. - Original Message - From: "Scott Howell" To: Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 4:29 AM Subject: Re: scanning and the mac WIth regard to the sound not functioning on the 13-inch MBP while in the Windows VM, I have not had any problems at all. The 13-inch MBP I is maybe a year old and provided by my employer. So, even with all their tweaks and such, I have yet to encounter any failure in sound while in the VM. I am wondering if this is more an issue with older 13-inch MBPs. Scott On Feb 17, 2011, at 8:52 PM, David Tanner wrote: It certainly works, features are somewhat limited, it does not use VoiceOver, and is not setup like a standard Apple application. Instead it has been ported over to Apple using its' own speech and essentually the same keys as the Windows version. But, it is better than nothing. - Original Message - From: "Antonio M. Guimaraes Jr." To: Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 11:00 PM Subject: Re: scanning and the mac The iPal now works on a Mac. It is self-voicing. I never considered one, but just heard from a doctoral student friend of mine who swears by it, and its speed. Antonio Guimaraes On Feb 16, 2011, at 11:11 AM, Caitlyn and Nickels wrote: Hi, We have been kicking around the idea of getting a couple of new macs for a couple of weeks now since bothour pc's are not working that great anymore. The main thing that is holding us back is our heavy reliance on Kurzweil. I am a grad student and we also use k1000 for scanning our mail daily. I know we could either do a duel boot system or run a virtual machine and then can use k1000 this way on the mac, but I wanted to ask knowledgable folks first about this before we jumped in. We heard about another kurzweil product that is for the mac, but it's not self voicing, and I don't know if vo works with it. Does anybody have any mac specific solutions that work well for scanning text books? For scanning the types we all get in the post? I use the bookmark features in k1000 quite a lot, plus the dictionary a lot and have preferred it a lot for the proof reading I do for book share over ms word. Oh, that's actually another question, we were told that pages actually isn't that great or useable... Lots of this info is coming from people who don't use vo regularly. For us, though, this scanner stuff is the only thing standing in the way. We do have a old power book, but it's the old non intel mac, so we're stuck running leopard on it, can't do a virtual machine or anything on it, it doesn't support the magic track pad, and we can't upgrade to snow leopard or anything beyond what we already have on it(we already called apple about it). Any help or anything would be appreciated! Thanks, Caitlyn -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To un
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Scott, Usually using Windows through the VM is fine. However, sometimes one might want to be able to dedicate all of the machine's memory and processing power to something they need to do on the Windows machine. In those cases it is nice to be able to boot directly into Windows and not loose any memory or processing power to having Snow Leopard running in the background. It actually works very nicely on MacBook Pro 15 and MacBook Pro 17. It is particularly handy for the person that may be running a bit light on RAM; like someone only running with two gigabytes of RAM. - Original Message - From: "Scott Howell" To: Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 6:48 AM Subject: Re: scanning and the mac Earle, That just solves the problem, only go the way of the VM. See the VM is supreme since you can close Windows when it acts poorly. :) Actually I have been very pleased with the entire concept of the VM and now I can actually enjoy only using the things in windows I absolutely must. However, I would like to just stay in the Mac environment if I had my choice. Scott On Feb 18, 2011, at 7:17 AM, Earle M. Harrison wrote: Hi all, I believe that the problem is not loosing sound in the VM, but on the Windows side in a Boot Camp partition. I have set-up several 13 inch Macbook Pro and invariably experienced the problem of loosing sound on the Windows side. Last time, we were thrilled because we got sound to work, installed all the software and then imported the Boot Camp image into a VM and this process when flawlessly; however, the next time we booted to the Windows side of the dual boot, sound was gone. Sighted assist found that nothing was muted and volume was at 100 percent. Reinstalling drivers from the Apple OS CD did not resolve the problem. On calling the support departments of both OS's, Microsoft blamed Apple, Apple blamed Microsoft and the customer decided that working in a VM was best anyway. Interestingly as David observed, plugging in a cheep USB sound card works great on the Windows side of a dual boot system, but what a drag to have to resort to this. Cheers, Earle On Feb 18, 2011, at 4:29 AM, Scott Howell wrote: WIth regard to the sound not functioning on the 13-inch MBP while in the Windows VM, I have not had any problems at all. The 13-inch MBP I is maybe a year old and provided by my employer. So, even with all their tweaks and such, I have yet to encounter any failure in sound while in the VM. I am wondering if this is more an issue with older 13-inch MBPs. Scott On Feb 17, 2011, at 8:52 PM, David Tanner wrote: It certainly works, features are somewhat limited, it does not use VoiceOver, and is not setup like a standard Apple application. Instead it has been ported over to Apple using its' own speech and essentually the same keys as the Windows version. But, it is better than nothing. - Original Message - From: "Antonio M. Guimaraes Jr." To: Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 11:00 PM Subject: Re: scanning and the mac The iPal now works on a Mac. It is self-voicing. I never considered one, but just heard from a doctoral student friend of mine who swears by it, and its speed. Antonio Guimaraes On Feb 16, 2011, at 11:11 AM, Caitlyn and Nickels wrote: Hi, We have been kicking around the idea of getting a couple of new macs for a couple of weeks now since bothour pc's are not working that great anymore. The main thing that is holding us back is our heavy reliance on Kurzweil. I am a grad student and we also use k1000 for scanning our mail daily. I know we could either do a duel boot system or run a virtual machine and then can use k1000 this way on the mac, but I wanted to ask knowledgable folks first about this before we jumped in. We heard about another kurzweil product that is for the mac, but it's not self voicing, and I don't know if vo works with it. Does anybody have any mac specific solutions that work well for scanning text books? For scanning the types we all get in the post? I use the bookmark features in k1000 quite a lot, plus the dictionary a lot and have preferred it a lot for the proof reading I do for book share over ms word. Oh, that's actually another question, we were told that pages actually isn't that great or useable... Lots of this info is coming from people who don't use vo regularly. For us, though, this scanner stuff is the only thing standing in the way. We do have a old power book, but it's the old non intel mac, so we're stuck running leopard on it, can't do a virtual machine or anything on it, it doesn't support the magic track pad, and we can't upgrade to snow leopard or anything beyond what we already have on it(we already called apple about it). Any help or anything would be appreciated! Thanks, Caitlyn -- You received this message because you
Re: scanning and the mac
tha'ts odd. I use bootcamp and have no sound issues at all but good luck with yoru scanning solution what e'er it may be. S On Feb 18, 2011, at 7:14 PM, David Tanner wrote: > It isn't Fusion that is the problem. The issue is if you try to run Windows > without running it as a virtual machine. The sound usually works if you are > running Windows through Fusion as a virtual machine. But, if you choose to > boot to Windows instead of booting into Snow Leopard and boot directly into > Windows there is a good chance that you will not have any sound in Windows > due to some kind of sound driver problem that Apple and Microsoft neither > seem to have a good answer to. But, luckily it only happens on the MacBook > Pro 13. I have the MacBook Pro 15 and have never had the problem with mine > or any of the about 15 machines that I have setup with both Windows 7 and > Snow Leopard. > > > > - Original Message - From: "Chris Moore" > To: > Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 2:09 AM > Subject: Re: scanning and the mac > > > That seems quite odd, as I have a iMac and a 13 inch Macbook Pro, and VM > Fusion is fine on the Macbook. I also have the iPal Solo (stand alone > version of the iPal). I opted for this as I did not realise at the time they > were working on Mac software. > On 18 Feb 2011, at 01:40, David Tanner wrote: > >> You are right on, the only accessible OCR for Mac right now is Eye-Pal which >> has no where close to the features of Kurzweil1000. The best solution at >> this time is K11000 in Windows and with the latest Fusion you should be able >> to setup a hotkey so that you can actually launch K1000 while you are still >> in Snow Leopard and Fusion will handle getting you over to Windows, >> launching K1000; which isn't half bad. >> >> Just a word of warning here. After more than one experience; stay away from >> the Mac Book Pro 13 inch laptop. There appears to be a problem with not >> always getting sound on the Windows side of things which apparently can only >> be solved by installing a USB soundcard to use for sound on the Windows side >> of things. Again, this only seems to happen with the 13 inch model of Mac >> Book Pro. >> >> >> >> - Original Message - From: "Mary Otten" >> To: >> Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 9:54 PM >> Subject: Re: scanning and the mac >> >> >> There is no solution for the Mac equal to K1000 if you use things like the >> bookmark and other features of that application. The k3000 for Mac is old >> and not vo-compatible and not appropriate for blind folks. Stick with k1000 >> and never mind native Mac solutions if you're a power user, which it sounds >> like you are. You won't be happy with other solutions that don't offer >> features you're use to and don't offer anything like the convenience of the >> K1000 application. I have K1000 running on a Windows machine with a bookedge >> scanner by Plustek. Bootcamp or a vm may work for you. Good luck. >> >> Mary >> Mary Otten >> motte...@gmail.com >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: scanning and the mac
Clearly people are not reading the entire message before they say all is well. Never has anything been said about not having sound when running Windows under VM Ware Fusion. The issue is when running Windows by itself without Snow Leopard. So, it really doesn't make any sense to post a message saying that you aren't having a problem with sound in Windows when you are using Fusion. That isn't the problem, and that was said from the very beginning. - Original Message - From: "Kimberly thurman" To: Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 12:27 PM Subject: Re: scanning and the mac I also have a 13 inch MBP running windows under VMWare Fusion with no sound issues whatsoever. I'm running Jaws 12 over there as well. My MBP is 15 months old. On Feb 18, 2011, at 5:29 AM, Scott Howell wrote: WIth regard to the sound not functioning on the 13-inch MBP while in the Windows VM, I have not had any problems at all. The 13-inch MBP I is maybe a year old and provided by my employer. So, even with all their tweaks and such, I have yet to encounter any failure in sound while in the VM. I am wondering if this is more an issue with older 13-inch MBPs. Scott On Feb 17, 2011, at 8:52 PM, David Tanner wrote: It certainly works, features are somewhat limited, it does not use VoiceOver, and is not setup like a standard Apple application. Instead it has been ported over to Apple using its' own speech and essentually the same keys as the Windows version. But, it is better than nothing. - Original Message - From: "Antonio M. Guimaraes Jr." To: Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 11:00 PM Subject: Re: scanning and the mac The iPal now works on a Mac. It is self-voicing. I never considered one, but just heard from a doctoral student friend of mine who swears by it, and its speed. Antonio Guimaraes On Feb 16, 2011, at 11:11 AM, Caitlyn and Nickels wrote: Hi, We have been kicking around the idea of getting a couple of new macs for a couple of weeks now since bothour pc's are not working that great anymore. The main thing that is holding us back is our heavy reliance on Kurzweil. I am a grad student and we also use k1000 for scanning our mail daily. I know we could either do a duel boot system or run a virtual machine and then can use k1000 this way on the mac, but I wanted to ask knowledgable folks first about this before we jumped in. We heard about another kurzweil product that is for the mac, but it's not self voicing, and I don't know if vo works with it. Does anybody have any mac specific solutions that work well for scanning text books? For scanning the types we all get in the post? I use the bookmark features in k1000 quite a lot, plus the dictionary a lot and have preferred it a lot for the proof reading I do for book share over ms word. Oh, that's actually another question, we were told that pages actually isn't that great or useable... Lots of this info is coming from people who don't use vo regularly. For us, though, this scanner stuff is the only thing standing in the way. We do have a old power book, but it's the old non intel mac, so we're stuck running leopard on it, can't do a virtual machine or anything on it, it doesn't support the magic track pad, and we can't upgrade to snow leopard or anything beyond what we already have on it(we already called apple about it). Any help or anything would be appreciated! Thanks, Caitlyn -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this gro
Re: scanning and the mac
I'm really not haveing any problems running bootcamp and windows. I can do it flawlesly after I install the driver cd. S. On Feb 18, 2011, at 8:45 PM, David Tanner wrote: > Clearly people are not reading the entire message before they say all is > well. Never has anything been said about not having sound when running > Windows under VM Ware Fusion. The issue is when running Windows by itself > without Snow Leopard. So, it really doesn't make any sense to post a message > saying that you aren't having a problem with sound in Windows when you are > using Fusion. That isn't the problem, and that was said from the very > beginning. > > > > - Original Message - From: "Kimberly thurman" > > To: > Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 12:27 PM > Subject: Re: scanning and the mac > > > I also have a 13 inch MBP running windows under VMWare Fusion with no sound > issues whatsoever. I'm running Jaws 12 over there as well. My MBP is 15 > months old. > On Feb 18, 2011, at 5:29 AM, Scott Howell wrote: > >> WIth regard to the sound not functioning on the 13-inch MBP while in the >> Windows VM, I have not had any problems at all. The 13-inch MBP I is maybe a >> year old and provided by my employer. So, even with all their tweaks and >> such, I have yet to encounter any failure in sound while in the VM. I am >> wondering if this is more an issue with older 13-inch MBPs. >> Scott >> >> >> >> >> >> On Feb 17, 2011, at 8:52 PM, David Tanner wrote: >> >>> It certainly works, features are somewhat limited, it does not use >>> VoiceOver, and is not setup like a standard Apple application. Instead it >>> has been ported over to Apple using its' own speech and essentually the >>> same keys as the Windows version. But, it is better than nothing. >>> >>> >>> >>> - Original Message - From: "Antonio M. Guimaraes Jr." >>> >>> To: >>> Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 11:00 PM >>> Subject: Re: scanning and the mac >>> >>> >>>> The iPal now works on a Mac. >>>> >>>> It is self-voicing. >>>> >>>> I never considered one, but just heard from a doctoral student friend of >>>> mine who swears by it, and its speed. >>>> >>>> Antonio Guimaraes >>>> >>>> On Feb 16, 2011, at 11:11 AM, Caitlyn and Nickels wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> We have been kicking around the idea of getting a couple of new macs for a >>>>> couple of weeks now since bothour pc's are not working that great anymore. >>>>> The main thing that is holding us back is our heavy reliance on Kurzweil. >>>>> I >>>>> am a grad student and we also use k1000 for scanning our mail daily. I >>>>> know >>>>> we could either do a duel boot system or run a virtual machine and then >>>>> can >>>>> use k1000 this way on the mac, but I wanted to ask knowledgable folks >>>>> first >>>>> about this before we jumped in. >>>>> >>>>> We heard about another kurzweil product that is for the mac, but it's not >>>>> self voicing, and I don't know if vo works with it. Does anybody have >>>>> any >>>>> mac specific solutions that work well for scanning text books? For >>>>> scanning >>>>> the types we all get in the post? I use the bookmark features in k1000 >>>>> quite a lot, plus the dictionary a lot and have preferred it a lot for the >>>>> proof reading I do for book share over ms word. >>>>> >>>>> Oh, that's actually another question, we were told that pages actually >>>>> isn't >>>>> that great or useable... >>>>> >>>>> Lots of this info is coming from people who don't use vo regularly. >>>>> >>>>> For us, though, this scanner stuff is the only thing standing in the way. >>>>> We do have a old power book, but it's the old non intel mac, so we're >>>>> stuck >>>>> running leopard on it, can't do a virtual machine or anything on it, it >>>>> doesn't support the magic track pad, and we can't upgrade to snow leopard >>>>> or >>>>> anything beyond what we already have on it(we a
Re: scanning and the mac
I have boot camp installed on my 13 inch Macbook Pro, no sound issues here. However I am running XP and not Windows 7 though. So not sure if that makes a difference. On 19 Feb 2011, at 03:14, David Tanner wrote: > It isn't Fusion that is the problem. The issue is if you try to run Windows > without running it as a virtual machine. The sound usually works if you are > running Windows through Fusion as a virtual machine. But, if you choose to > boot to Windows instead of booting into Snow Leopard and boot directly into > Windows there is a good chance that you will not have any sound in Windows > due to some kind of sound driver problem that Apple and Microsoft neither > seem to have a good answer to. But, luckily it only happens on the MacBook > Pro 13. I have the MacBook Pro 15 and have never had the problem with mine > or any of the about 15 machines that I have setup with both Windows 7 and > Snow Leopard. > > > > - Original Message - From: "Chris Moore" > To: > Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 2:09 AM > Subject: Re: scanning and the mac > > > That seems quite odd, as I have a iMac and a 13 inch Macbook Pro, and VM > Fusion is fine on the Macbook. I also have the iPal Solo (stand alone > version of the iPal). I opted for this as I did not realise at the time they > were working on Mac software. > On 18 Feb 2011, at 01:40, David Tanner wrote: > >> You are right on, the only accessible OCR for Mac right now is Eye-Pal which >> has no where close to the features of Kurzweil1000. The best solution at >> this time is K11000 in Windows and with the latest Fusion you should be able >> to setup a hotkey so that you can actually launch K1000 while you are still >> in Snow Leopard and Fusion will handle getting you over to Windows, >> launching K1000; which isn't half bad. >> >> Just a word of warning here. After more than one experience; stay away from >> the Mac Book Pro 13 inch laptop. There appears to be a problem with not >> always getting sound on the Windows side of things which apparently can only >> be solved by installing a USB soundcard to use for sound on the Windows side >> of things. Again, this only seems to happen with the 13 inch model of Mac >> Book Pro. >> >> >> >> - Original Message - From: "Mary Otten" >> To: >> Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 9:54 PM >> Subject: Re: scanning and the mac >> >> >> There is no solution for the Mac equal to K1000 if you use things like the >> bookmark and other features of that application. The k3000 for Mac is old >> and not vo-compatible and not appropriate for blind folks. Stick with k1000 >> and never mind native Mac solutions if you're a power user, which it sounds >> like you are. You won't be happy with other solutions that don't offer >> features you're use to and don't offer anything like the convenience of the >> K1000 application. I have K1000 running on a Windows machine with a bookedge >> scanner by Plustek. Bootcamp or a vm may work for you. Good luck. >> >> Mary >> Mary Otten >> motte...@gmail.com >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: scanning and the mac
Hello. I am running Windows in a boot camp partition without Snow Leopard and I have sound. I had to install drivers from the mac os installation cd after installing Windows. I printed the Bootcamp Installation Guide wich contains the procedures. I needed sighted assistance to get this done. On Feb 18, 2011, at 10:45 PM, "David Tanner" wrote: > Clearly people are not reading the entire message before they say all is > well. Never has anything been said about not having sound when running > Windows under VM Ware Fusion. The issue is when running Windows by itself > without Snow Leopard. So, it really doesn't make any sense to post a message > saying that you aren't having a problem with sound in Windows when you are > using Fusion. That isn't the problem, and that was said from the very > beginning. > > > > - Original Message - From: "Kimberly thurman" > > To: > Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 12:27 PM > Subject: Re: scanning and the mac > > > I also have a 13 inch MBP running windows under VMWare Fusion with no sound > issues whatsoever. I'm running Jaws 12 over there as well. My MBP is 15 > months old. > On Feb 18, 2011, at 5:29 AM, Scott Howell wrote: > >> WIth regard to the sound not functioning on the 13-inch MBP while in the >> Windows VM, I have not had any problems at all. The 13-inch MBP I is maybe a >> year old and provided by my employer. So, even with all their tweaks and >> such, I have yet to encounter any failure in sound while in the VM. I am >> wondering if this is more an issue with older 13-inch MBPs. >> Scott >> >> >> >> >> >> On Feb 17, 2011, at 8:52 PM, David Tanner wrote: >> >>> It certainly works, features are somewhat limited, it does not use >>> VoiceOver, and is not setup like a standard Apple application. Instead it >>> has been ported over to Apple using its' own speech and essentually the >>> same keys as the Windows version. But, it is better than nothing. >>> D -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: scanning and the mac
Hopefully, more major developers will develop scanning applications for the mac, it's annoying to be treated as second class, especially with all the market share apple is gaining. On Feb 18, 2011, at 9:29 PM, David Tanner wrote: > Scott, > > Usually using Windows through the VM is fine. However, sometimes one might > want to be able to dedicate all of the machine's memory and processing power > to something they need to do on the Windows machine. In those cases it is > nice to be able to boot directly into Windows and not loose any memory or > processing power to having Snow Leopard running in the background. It > actually works very nicely on MacBook Pro 15 and MacBook Pro 17. It is > particularly handy for the person that may be running a bit light on RAM; > like someone only running with two gigabytes of RAM. > > > > - Original Message - From: "Scott Howell" > To: > Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 6:48 AM > Subject: Re: scanning and the mac > > > Earle, > > That just solves the problem, only go the way of the VM. See the VM is > supreme since you can close Windows when it acts poorly. :) Actually I have > been very pleased with the entire concept of the VM and now I can actually > enjoy only using the things in windows I absolutely must. However, I would > like to just stay in the Mac environment if I had my choice. > Scott > > > > > > On Feb 18, 2011, at 7:17 AM, Earle M. Harrison wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> I believe that the problem is not loosing sound in the VM, but on the >> Windows side in a Boot Camp partition. I have set-up several 13 inch >> Macbook Pro and invariably experienced the problem of loosing sound on the >> Windows side. Last time, we were thrilled because we got sound to work, >> installed all the software and then imported the Boot Camp image into a VM >> and this process when flawlessly; however, the next time we booted to the >> Windows side of the dual boot, sound was gone. Sighted assist found that >> nothing was muted and volume was at 100 percent. Reinstalling drivers from >> the Apple OS CD did not resolve the problem. On calling the support >> departments of both OS's, Microsoft blamed Apple, Apple blamed Microsoft >> and the customer decided that working in a VM was best anyway. Interestingly >> as David observed, plugging in a cheep USB sound card works great on the >> Windows side of a dual boot system, but what a drag to have to resort to >> this. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Earle >> >> On Feb 18, 2011, at 4:29 AM, Scott Howell wrote: >> >>> WIth regard to the sound not functioning on the 13-inch MBP while in the >>> Windows VM, I have not had any problems at all. The 13-inch MBP I is maybe >>> a year old and provided by my employer. So, even with all their tweaks and >>> such, I have yet to encounter any failure in sound while in the VM. I am >>> wondering if this is more an issue with older 13-inch MBPs. >>> Scott >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Feb 17, 2011, at 8:52 PM, David Tanner wrote: >>> >>>> It certainly works, features are somewhat limited, it does not use >>>> VoiceOver, and is not setup like a standard Apple application. Instead it >>>> has been ported over to Apple using its' own speech and essentually the >>>> same keys as the Windows version. But, it is better than nothing. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> - Original Message - From: "Antonio M. Guimaraes Jr." >>>> >>>> To: >>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 11:00 PM >>>> Subject: Re: scanning and the mac >>>> >>>> >>>>> The iPal now works on a Mac. >>>>> >>>>> It is self-voicing. >>>>> >>>>> I never considered one, but just heard from a doctoral student friend of >>>>> mine who swears by it, and its speed. >>>>> >>>>> Antonio Guimaraes >>>>> >>>>> On Feb 16, 2011, at 11:11 AM, Caitlyn and Nickels wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> >>>>>> We have been kicking around the idea of getting a couple of new macs for >>>>>> a >>>>>> couple of weeks now since bothour pc's are not working that great >>>>>> anymore. >>>>>> The main thing that is holding us back is our heavy reliance on
Re: scanning and the mac
Are you using the 13 inch MacBook Pro? It works fine on the 15 inch and 17 inch only the 13 in h machine. I personally have a 15 inch MacBook Pro and you are right that it works fine once the drivers are installed. That's exactly what has us stumped, and Apple nor Microsoft have any suggestions as to a solution. - Original Message - From: "Sarah Alawami" To: Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 11:55 PM Subject: Re: scanning and the mac I'm really not haveing any problems running bootcamp and windows. I can do it flawlesly after I install the driver cd. S. On Feb 18, 2011, at 8:45 PM, David Tanner wrote: Clearly people are not reading the entire message before they say all is well. Never has anything been said about not having sound when running Windows under VM Ware Fusion. The issue is when running Windows by itself without Snow Leopard. So, it really doesn't make any sense to post a message saying that you aren't having a problem with sound in Windows when you are using Fusion. That isn't the problem, and that was said from the very beginning. - Original Message - From: "Kimberly thurman" To: Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 12:27 PM Subject: Re: scanning and the mac I also have a 13 inch MBP running windows under VMWare Fusion with no sound issues whatsoever. I'm running Jaws 12 over there as well. My MBP is 15 months old. On Feb 18, 2011, at 5:29 AM, Scott Howell wrote: WIth regard to the sound not functioning on the 13-inch MBP while in the Windows VM, I have not had any problems at all. The 13-inch MBP I is maybe a year old and provided by my employer. So, even with all their tweaks and such, I have yet to encounter any failure in sound while in the VM. I am wondering if this is more an issue with older 13-inch MBPs. Scott On Feb 17, 2011, at 8:52 PM, David Tanner wrote: It certainly works, features are somewhat limited, it does not use VoiceOver, and is not setup like a standard Apple application. Instead it has been ported over to Apple using its' own speech and essentually the same keys as the Windows version. But, it is better than nothing. - Original Message - From: "Antonio M. Guimaraes Jr." To: Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 11:00 PM Subject: Re: scanning and the mac The iPal now works on a Mac. It is self-voicing. I never considered one, but just heard from a doctoral student friend of mine who swears by it, and its speed. Antonio Guimaraes On Feb 16, 2011, at 11:11 AM, Caitlyn and Nickels wrote: Hi, We have been kicking around the idea of getting a couple of new macs for a couple of weeks now since bothour pc's are not working that great anymore. The main thing that is holding us back is our heavy reliance on Kurzweil. I am a grad student and we also use k1000 for scanning our mail daily. I know we could either do a duel boot system or run a virtual machine and then can use k1000 this way on the mac, but I wanted to ask knowledgable folks first about this before we jumped in. We heard about another kurzweil product that is for the mac, but it's not self voicing, and I don't know if vo works with it. Does anybody have any mac specific solutions that work well for scanning text books? For scanning the types we all get in the post? I use the bookmark features in k1000 quite a lot, plus the dictionary a lot and have preferred it a lot for the proof reading I do for book share over ms word. Oh, that's actually another question, we were told that pages actually isn't that great or useable... Lots of this info is coming from people who don't use vo regularly. For us, though, this scanner stuff is the only thing standing in the way. We do have a old power book, but it's the old non intel mac, so we're stuck running leopard on it, can't do a virtual machine or anything on it, it doesn't support the magic track pad, and we can't upgrade to snow leopard or anything beyond what we already have on it(we already called apple about it). Any help or anything would be appreciated! Thanks, Caitlyn -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You receive
Re: scanning and the mac
Thanks, that is good to know. - Original Message - From: "Chris Moore" To: Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2011 2:06 AM Subject: Re: scanning and the mac I have boot camp installed on my 13 inch Macbook Pro, no sound issues here. However I am running XP and not Windows 7 though. So not sure if that makes a difference. On 19 Feb 2011, at 03:14, David Tanner wrote: It isn't Fusion that is the problem. The issue is if you try to run Windows without running it as a virtual machine. The sound usually works if you are running Windows through Fusion as a virtual machine. But, if you choose to boot to Windows instead of booting into Snow Leopard and boot directly into Windows there is a good chance that you will not have any sound in Windows due to some kind of sound driver problem that Apple and Microsoft neither seem to have a good answer to. But, luckily it only happens on the MacBook Pro 13. I have the MacBook Pro 15 and have never had the problem with mine or any of the about 15 machines that I have setup with both Windows 7 and Snow Leopard. - Original Message - From: "Chris Moore" To: Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 2:09 AM Subject: Re: scanning and the mac That seems quite odd, as I have a iMac and a 13 inch Macbook Pro, and VM Fusion is fine on the Macbook. I also have the iPal Solo (stand alone version of the iPal). I opted for this as I did not realise at the time they were working on Mac software. On 18 Feb 2011, at 01:40, David Tanner wrote: You are right on, the only accessible OCR for Mac right now is Eye-Pal which has no where close to the features of Kurzweil1000. The best solution at this time is K11000 in Windows and with the latest Fusion you should be able to setup a hotkey so that you can actually launch K1000 while you are still in Snow Leopard and Fusion will handle getting you over to Windows, launching K1000; which isn't half bad. Just a word of warning here. After more than one experience; stay away from the Mac Book Pro 13 inch laptop. There appears to be a problem with not always getting sound on the Windows side of things which apparently can only be solved by installing a USB soundcard to use for sound on the Windows side of things. Again, this only seems to happen with the 13 inch model of Mac Book Pro. - Original Message - From: "Mary Otten" To: Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 9:54 PM Subject: Re: scanning and the mac There is no solution for the Mac equal to K1000 if you use things like the bookmark and other features of that application. The k3000 for Mac is old and not vo-compatible and not appropriate for blind folks. Stick with k1000 and never mind native Mac solutions if you're a power user, which it sounds like you are. You won't be happy with other solutions that don't offer features you're use to and don't offer anything like the convenience of the K1000 application. I have K1000 running on a Windows machine with a bookedge scanner by Plustek. Bootcamp or a vm may work for you. Good luck. Mary Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.go
Re: scanning and the mac
Are you using a 13 inch MacBook Pro? If yes, are you running Windows 7? AAny thing that we can find that might give us a clue what is going on would be very helpful. - Original Message - From: "Paul Hunt" To: Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2011 5:29 AM Subject: Re: scanning and the mac Hello. I am running Windows in a boot camp partition without Snow Leopard and I have sound. I had to install drivers from the mac os installation cd after installing Windows. I printed the Bootcamp Installation Guide wich contains the procedures. I needed sighted assistance to get this done. On Feb 18, 2011, at 10:45 PM, "David Tanner" wrote: Clearly people are not reading the entire message before they say all is well. Never has anything been said about not having sound when running Windows under VM Ware Fusion. The issue is when running Windows by itself without Snow Leopard. So, it really doesn't make any sense to post a message saying that you aren't having a problem with sound in Windows when you are using Fusion. That isn't the problem, and that was said from the very beginning. - Original Message - From: "Kimberly thurman" To: Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 12:27 PM Subject: Re: scanning and the mac I also have a 13 inch MBP running windows under VMWare Fusion with no sound issues whatsoever. I'm running Jaws 12 over there as well. My MBP is 15 months old. On Feb 18, 2011, at 5:29 AM, Scott Howell wrote: WIth regard to the sound not functioning on the 13-inch MBP while in the Windows VM, I have not had any problems at all. The 13-inch MBP I is maybe a year old and provided by my employer. So, even with all their tweaks and such, I have yet to encounter any failure in sound while in the VM. I am wondering if this is more an issue with older 13-inch MBPs. Scott On Feb 17, 2011, at 8:52 PM, David Tanner wrote: It certainly works, features are somewhat limited, it does not use VoiceOver, and is not setup like a standard Apple application. Instead it has been ported over to Apple using its' own speech and essentually the same keys as the Windows version. But, it is better than nothing. D -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: scanning and the mac
Just doing a little catching up here.. after a windows 7 crash(ugh!).. this is one reason I really want to switch, windows is always crashing.. anyway.. Thanks to everybody who answered my scanning question.. For now, because of school, looks like I'll have to keep the win machine around for the k1000 part at least. Once we're done with that, maybe we can just get a stand alone eye pal or something to scan our post every day and do occasional books or whatever and go all mac for everything else. Who knows what else will spring up between now and then? Thanks, Caitlyn From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Tanner Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 10:14 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: scanning and the mac It isn't Fusion that is the problem. The issue is if you try to run Windows without running it as a virtual machine. The sound usually works if you are running Windows through Fusion as a virtual machine. But, if you choose to boot to Windows instead of booting into Snow Leopard and boot directly into Windows there is a good chance that you will not have any sound in Windows due to some kind of sound driver problem that Apple and Microsoft neither seem to have a good answer to. But, luckily it only happens on the MacBook Pro 13. I have the MacBook Pro 15 and have never had the problem with mine or any of the about 15 machines that I have setup with both Windows 7 and Snow Leopard. - Original Message - From: "Chris Moore" To: Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 2:09 AM Subject: Re: scanning and the mac That seems quite odd, as I have a iMac and a 13 inch Macbook Pro, and VM Fusion is fine on the Macbook. I also have the iPal Solo (stand alone version of the iPal). I opted for this as I did not realise at the time they were working on Mac software. On 18 Feb 2011, at 01:40, David Tanner wrote: > You are right on, the only accessible OCR for Mac right now is Eye-Pal > which has no where close to the features of Kurzweil1000. The best > solution at this time is K11000 in Windows and with the latest Fusion you > should be able to setup a hotkey so that you can actually launch K1000 > while you are still in Snow Leopard and Fusion will handle getting you > over to Windows, launching K1000; which isn't half bad. > > Just a word of warning here. After more than one experience; stay away > from the Mac Book Pro 13 inch laptop. There appears to be a problem with > not always getting sound on the Windows side of things which apparently > can only be solved by installing a USB soundcard to use for sound on the > Windows side of things. Again, this only seems to happen with the 13 inch > model of Mac Book Pro. > > > > - Original Message - From: "Mary Otten" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 9:54 PM > Subject: Re: scanning and the mac > > > There is no solution for the Mac equal to K1000 if you use things like the > bookmark and other features of that application. The k3000 for Mac is old > and not vo-compatible and not appropriate for blind folks. Stick with > k1000 and never mind native Mac solutions if you're a power user, which it > sounds like you are. You won't be happy with other solutions that don't > offer features you're use to and don't offer anything like the convenience > of the K1000 application. I have K1000 running on a Windows machine with a > bookedge scanner by Plustek. Bootcamp or a vm may work for you. Good luck. > > Mary > Mary Otten > motte...@gmail.com > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Gro
