Re: superduper

[Daniel Chavez]

Hi there,
I use to do podcasts on Mac stuff. Since my server crashed back in June or so, 
most of my podcasts are gone. However, I will take the time to do a new podcast 
on SuperDooper.
As far as the hd goes, SuperDooper should backup the hole HD. From my 
experience, SuperDooper does pretty well, and makes your destination drive 
bootable, so you could boot off the destination drive.
My podcasts can be found at www.danielcproductions.net

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RE: superduper

[Ramy Moustafa]

Ok, but if I have bootcamp, will it backup all my hd including the
mavericks, windows etc?


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Hi there,
I use to do podcasts on Mac stuff. Since my server crashed back in June or
so, most of my podcasts are gone. However, I will take the time to do a new
podcast on SuperDooper.
As far as the hd goes, SuperDooper should backup the hole HD. From my
experience, SuperDooper does pretty well, and makes your destination drive
bootable, so you could boot off the destination drive.
My podcasts can be found at www.danielcproductions.net

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Re: superduper

[Daniel C]

Hi,
SuperDooper will backup everything, excluding certain system files.
My assumption is that SuperDooper will backup your BootCamp because it's part 
of your HD.
I'll do some research to double-check this though.

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Re: superduper

[ramy moustafa]

thanks and am waiting your podcast plz.

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> On Dec 28, 2013, at 7:10 PM, Daniel C  wrote:
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> Hi,
> SuperDooper will backup everything, excluding certain system files.
> My assumption is that SuperDooper will backup your BootCamp because it's part 
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> I'll do some research to double-check this though.
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Re: superduper

[Daniel C]

I have not forgotten about the podcast. I've been quite busy and have not had 
time to do it yet.

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Re: superduper

[Daniel C]

Hi there,
I'm just writing to let you know that I have not forgotten abot the Podcast. I 
have lots going on that is preventing me from doing the podcast at the moment, 
but you can be assured that when I am settled, I will work on that Podcast.
I am so sorry.

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Re: superduper

[Daniel C]

Hi there,
I realize that I mentioned I'd do a podcast on Super Duper, are you still 
needing one done? I'll have time to do one within a day or 2.

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Re: SuperDuper.

[Luis antónio Marques Caetano]

Hi.
According to this website, it has got ARM support:
https://doesitarm.com/app/superduper/

Google is our friend! :)

2022-03-04 16:01 GMT, Anders Holmberg :
> Hi!
> I bought superDuper a month ago or so.
> So far I really like the program.
> Though it renamed my backup disk to the same name my startup disk has.
> Maybe this can be changed, I haven’t really figured things out yet.
> However since I am thinking of buying the new m1  Mac I  don’t know if it
> will work or nt?
> So i am a bit unsure on  if I should or can use it.
> Thanks.
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Re: SuperDuper.

[Chuck Reichel]

Hi Anders,

I was told by SuperDuper. tech support several month ago that big sur and 
forward would not work with SuperDuper. any more.
So I gave up and just use time machine now! :(
My mac is not a M1 though is there new support for big sur with SuperDuper.?
Thanks
Chuck


> On Mar 4, 2022, at 11:01 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
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> Hi!
> I bought superDuper a month ago or so.
> So far I really like the program.
> Though it renamed my backup disk to the same name my startup disk has.
> Maybe this can be changed, I haven’t really figured things out yet.
> However since I am thinking of buying the new m1  Mac I  don’t know if it 
> will work or nt?
> So i am a bit unsure on  if I should or can use it.
> Thanks.
> /A
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Re: SuperDuper.

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Ok.
Thanks for that.
Seems I can go on with it then.
/A

> 4 mars 2022 kl. 18:23 skrev Luis antónio Marques Caetano 
> :
> 
> Hi.
> According to this website, it has got ARM support:
> https://doesitarm.com/app/superduper/
> 
> Google is our friend! :)
> 
> 2022-03-04 16:01 GMT, Anders Holmberg :
>> Hi!
>> I bought superDuper a month ago or so.
>> So far I really like the program.
>> Though it renamed my backup disk to the same name my startup disk has.
>> Maybe this can be changed, I haven’t really figured things out yet.
>> However since I am thinking of buying the new m1  Mac I  don’t know if it
>> will work or nt?
>> So i am a bit unsure on  if I should or can use it.
>> Thanks.
>> /A
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Re: SuperDuper.

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   Good grief no, Anders. First time backup using Super Duper? You 
should be able to cancel it then check the settings.


   I stopped using that app long ago, using Carbon Copy Cloner now. 
Between that and Time Machine, my weekly backups are done in less than 
an hour.


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On 7/24/2022 7:21 AM, Anders Holmberg wrote:

Hi!
Just a quick one.
Should Superduper take that long to backup.
I started yesterday but its not done yet.
I am on the 18th hour of backing up.
I don’t  want to crash things so I guess I have to just let it run.
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Re: SuperDuper.

[Chuck Reichel]

Hi Anders,
After the initial back up super duper only takes me 4 or  5 minutes to up date 
the original back up using the Smart Update option.
18 hours is way too long though.
Heres a blurb from my SuperDuper below;
Pressing "Copy Now" will use "Backup - all files" to copy Macintosh HD to WD My 
Passport MBA using Smart Update. All files on Macintosh HD will be copied to WD 
My Passport MBA, except the temporary and system-specific files that Apple 
recommends excluding.

Smart Update will copy and erase what's needed to make WD My Passport MBA 
identical to your selections from Macintosh HD. The result will mimic "Erase WD 
My Passport MBA, then copy files from Macintosh HD," but will typically take a 
fraction of the time.

Finally, WD My Passport MBA will be ejected when SuperDuper! Quits.
HTH
Chuck

> On Jul 24, 2022, at 10:21 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
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> Just a quick one.
> Should Superduper take that long to backup.
> I started yesterday but its not done yet.
> I am on the 18th hour of backing up.
> I don’t  want to crash things so I guess I have to just let it run.
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Re: SuperDuper

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> On Jul 13, 2017, at 9:42 AM, E.T.  wrote:
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>   I've been working with this app w bit. For the most part its accessible. 
> The only area I seem to have trouble wiht is in the scheduling function. How 
> does one deal with the calendar settings with Voiceover?
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Re: SuperDuper

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   Phil, you sent a blank reply.

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On 7/13/2017 7:28 AM, Phil Halton wrote:



Sent from my IPhone



On Jul 13, 2017, at 9:42 AM, E.T.  wrote:

  I've been working with this app w bit. For the most part its accessible. The 
only area I seem to have trouble wiht is in the scheduling function. How does 
one deal with the calendar settings with Voiceover?

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use VO commands you use the tab key and the . Otherwise every field you arrow 
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commands you use the tab key and the . Otherwise every field you arrow to with 
the Okies will get selected automatically. I guess you could use cursor 
tracking off in the same way as just using the  . It's been a while since 
I've used it but that's my recollection. Give it a try




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Re: SuperDuper

[Jonathan Cohn]

Did you purchase, or are you just using the free option? I believe scheduling 
is one of those things you have to pay for. 


Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



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Re: SuperDuper

[E.T.]

   Yes, got curious enough to give it a work out.

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On 7/13/2017 2:26 PM, Jonathan Cohn wrote:

Did you purchase, or are you just using the free option? I believe
scheduling is one of those things you have to pay for.


Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn




On Jul 13, 2017, at 9:42 AM, E.T. mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>> wrote:

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accessible. The only area I seem to have trouble wiht is in the
scheduling function. How does one deal with the calendar settings with
Voiceover?

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Re: SuperDuper

[Phil Halton]

In the scheduler, you don't use the vo commands. You just move around with tab 
if you use the VO commands it will select every day that it passes over. Again 
just use the tab key and the to select the days you want to schedule a back up.
Also, to achieve the same end, I guess you could turn curse of trapping off and 
use the video commands that way. Still I remember this along time ago somebody 
telling me just use Also, to achieve the same end, I guess you could turn curse 
of trapping off and use the video commands that way. Still I remember this 
along time ago somebody telling me just usetaband spacebarand save yourself a 
lot of headaches.
Sent from my IPhone


> On Jul 13, 2017, at 5:26 PM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
> 
> Did you purchase, or are you just using the free option? I believe scheduling 
> is one of those things you have to pay for. 
> 
> 
>   Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan Cohn
> 
> 
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>> On Jul 13, 2017, at 9:42 AM, E.T.  wrote:
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>>   I've been working with this app w bit. For the most part its accessible. 
>> The only area I seem to have trouble wiht is in the scheduling function. How 
>> does one deal with the calendar settings with Voiceover?
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
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>>  mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
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Re: SuperDuper

[E.T.]

   Thanks Phil. Nice work around, it just was not intuitive to leave VO 
out of it completely.


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E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 7/13/2017 3:53 PM, Phil Halton wrote:

In the scheduler, you don't use the vo commands. You just move around
with tab if you use the VO commands it will select every day that it
passes over. Again just use the tab key and the to select the days you
want to schedule a back up.
Also, to achieve the same end, I guess you could turn curse of trapping
off and use the video commands that way. Still I remember this along
time ago somebody telling me just use Also, to achieve the same end, I
guess you could turn curse of trapping off and use the video commands
that way. Still I remember this along time ago somebody telling me just
usetaband spacebarand save yourself a lot of headaches.
Sent from my IPhone


On Jul 13, 2017, at 5:26 PM, Jonathan Cohn mailto:jon.c.c...@gmail.com>> wrote:


Did you purchase, or are you just using the free option? I believe
scheduling is one of those things you have to pay for.


Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn




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  I've been working with this app w bit. For the most part its
accessible. The only area I seem to have trouble wiht is in the
scheduling function. How does one deal with the calendar settings
with Voiceover?

From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
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 mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
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 and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
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Re: SuperDuper Folder Exclusion

['Chris Blouch ' via MacVisionaries]

If you don't mind playing around in terminal you should look into the 
rsync command. Generally, to backup anything that changed since the last 
backup you would do


rsync -a ~/Documents /some/place/you/want/backups/stored

It also sometimes happens that you might have deleted a file in your 
Documents folder but it still lives on in your backups. If you want 
rsync to remove deleted files you have to add the --delete parameter.


rsync -a --delete ~/Documents /some/place/you/want/backups/stored

There is a much newer version of rsync that you can install with 
macports or the like which is faster but the baked-in one will work as well.


CB

On 4/26/14, 1:27 PM, Emilio Hernandez wrote:

Hello everyone,

I am reading through the Super Duper manual, but with little success of 
understanding how to create a script.
Basically, I want to set a script, which when selected will only smart copy my 
"documents" folder.
I am aware that I need to first select my "backup" script as the primary item I want to 
manipulate (insuring this item is "ignored")
Then I need to add the "documents" folder as the item I want copied.

I am not sure if this understanding I have gleamed is correct.
If anyone has had experience with this I would greatly appreciate help in 
increasing my understanding...

Thanks for any help anyone can provide.



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Re: SuperDuper or CCC

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Both are 100% accessible, and both will absolutely get the job done.

This discussion from time to time keeps cropping up on list.  My personal 
preference is Super Duper, but there really isn't any particular reason.  A 
lot of people will tell you that CCC does more.  Whether this can be 
confirmed, let me just be very straight up with you:  I'm not sure one way 
or another.  Keep in mind, though I've used CCC, I've only done so maybe 
once or twice, so definitely speaking, I'm not the one you'd want to ask 
about that app.


I think the main reason I stick with Super Duper has nothing at all to do 
with reliability, nor with accessibility.  I think it's just more what I 
started with, therefore, it's what I'm used to.


Really, regardless at the end of the day what anyone on this list may try 
telling you, I'm gonna say the blunt brutal truth like it is.  The truth is, 
either one works, and either one will do exactly what you're needing.  To 
what extent, that's where the question lies.


If all you're wanting to do is make a backup image, and you don't really 
care about incrypting it, or anything of the sort, then Super Duper 
definitely will work.  Plus, I don't want to give the impression that I know 
this for sure, so make that very clear up front before I say this, but I 
think, if memory serves correctly, they are both either price the same, or 
are very close.


Really what it boils down to is, the preference is really up to you.  IN 
conclusion, both however definitely are great products.

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Subject: SuperDuper or CCC



I wish to make a bootable  drive of my internal Macintosh HD. Are both
SuperDuper and CCC equally accessible with VoiceOver? And, do the folks on
this list have a preference?
Thank you in advance for any help.
Martin

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Re: SuperDuper or CCC

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Martin,
   I looked at both and am now running CCC. Once its set up the way I 
want it, its on auto pilot. It also will make the backup drive bootable.


   Very good support as well from its developer.

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I wish to make a bootable  drive of my internal Macintosh HD. Are both
SuperDuper and CCC equally accessible with VoiceOver? And, do the folks on
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Thank you in advance for any help.
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Re: SuperDuper Versus Carbon Copy Cloner

[Mike Arrigo]

Both programs have this feature, but you need to purchase super duper to get 
it, carbon copy cloner is totally free, though you can make a donation, which 
is worth it, it's a great program. I use carbon copy cloner myself, but super 
duper is a great program as well.
On Jul 23, 2011, at 1:08 PM, Paul Henrichsen wrote:

> Hi, Guys. I am wondering if there is any significance between Carbon Copy 
> Cloner and SuperDuper. Obviously, one is free and one costs $26. But do both 
> have the smart backup feature?
> I'm trying to figure which to get, but I really want the smart backup feature 
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Re: SuperDuper Versus Carbon Copy Cloner

[Paul Henrichsen]

Thanks, Mike. So, It would appear the smarter move would be to use carbon copy 
cloner and save yourself $26. I just wanted to make sure they had the same 
features before I decided which to buy.
SuperDuper has that sandbox feature, but that doesn't sound like anything I'd 
use.
I'm also a bit concerned as to how often a developer would update a free 
program as opposed to one where he made some money from the program.
I guess you have to assume that people will pay the $10 to the CCC program 
developer and not just continue to use is program for free.

On Jul 24, 2011, at 10:22 AM, Mike Arrigo wrote:

> Both programs have this feature, but you need to purchase super duper to get 
> it, carbon copy cloner is totally free, though you can make a donation, which 
> is worth it, it's a great program. I use carbon copy cloner myself, but super 
> duper is a great program as well.
> On Jul 23, 2011, at 1:08 PM, Paul Henrichsen wrote:
> 
>> Hi, Guys. I am wondering if there is any significance between Carbon Copy 
>> Cloner and SuperDuper. Obviously, one is free and one costs $26. But do both 
>> have the smart backup feature?
>> I'm trying to figure which to get, but I really want the smart backup 
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Re: SuperDuper Versus Carbon Copy Cloner

[Dan]

Hello,
I currently don't use Super-Duper, so I don't know about them.
CCC was updated a few days ago. Also, I read somewhere that the developer of 
CCC works for Apple. So I don't think you'll go wrong.


Dan

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> Thanks, Mike. So, It would appear the smarter move would be to use carbon 
> copy cloner and save yourself $26. I just wanted to make sure they had the 
> same features before I decided which to buy.
> SuperDuper has that sandbox feature, but that doesn't sound like anything I'd 
> use.
> I'm also a bit concerned as to how often a developer would update a free 
> program as opposed to one where he made some money from the program.
> I guess you have to assume that people will pay the $10 to the CCC program 
> developer and not just continue to use is program for free.
> 
> On Jul 24, 2011, at 10:22 AM, Mike Arrigo wrote:
> 
>> Both programs have this feature, but you need to purchase super duper to get 
>> it, carbon copy cloner is totally free, though you can make a donation, 
>> which is worth it, it's a great program. I use carbon copy cloner myself, 
>> but super duper is a great program as well.
>> On Jul 23, 2011, at 1:08 PM, Paul Henrichsen wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi, Guys. I am wondering if there is any significance between Carbon Copy 
>>> Cloner and SuperDuper. Obviously, one is free and one costs $26. But do 
>>> both have the smart backup feature?
>>> I'm trying to figure which to get, but I really want the smart backup 
>>> feature so my backups to a USB drive won't take so long.
>>> Thanks for any help.
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Re: SuperDuper Versus Carbon Copy Cloner

[Esther]

Hi Dan, Paul, Mike, and Others,

Like Mike, I've used both SuperDuper! and Carbon Copy Cloner.  And like Mike 
and Dan, I'm mostly using CCC right now, but I think it's more a question of 
personal preference.  For the purposes of making a bootable clone of your hard 
drive, which is one of the main uses of these programs in contrast to Apple's 
built-in Time Machine backup, either program will work: this functionality is 
complete in the free trial download of SuperDuper!  

Mike Bombich (developer of CCC) did work for Apple for several years after 
writing the first few versions of CCC for his own work as an IT support guy in 
higher education, and then making it generally available. However, he's 
currently working on his own projects, so there is no direct affiliation with 
Apple now.

Lynne Smith, one of the mods/owners of the mac-access list wrote up a nice 
article on making backup clone drives with CCC, SuperDuper! or with Terminal:
http://www.mac-access.net/Extras/System_Backup.html 

As Mike says, both of these are good products.  I like the fact that CCC gives 
good, brief descriptions, and seems to be a bit faster.  However, many new 
users like the more extensive documentation of SuperDuper! So it really is a 
question of style, here.

I have one question for others who have used these products.  Does anyone who 
uses a Bootcamp partition know the preferred means of backup via these software 
packages?  I'm asking for someone else, since I don't use Windows on my Mac.  
My understanding from reading the FAQs is that CCC will copy the Bootcamp 
partition, but that you can't directly boot into the Bootcamp partition using 
the cloned drive.  You can copy the Bootcamp partition back onto your main hard 
drive after you've done a system upgrade.  It appeared to me that 
Super Duper! would not handle the Bootcamp partition at all, although both 
these products can handle backing up a Virtual Machine.

Does anyone know how Bootcamp partitions (using Windows XP) work in Lion?  The 
reason this may be tricky is that the Lion installation creates a recovery 
partition, and I don't believe the system "knows" about Bootcamp partitions 
that may be present on the disk when it writes the new recovery partition.  
Thanks for any pointers on this.

Cheers,

Esther

On Jul 24, 2011, at 19:07, Dan wrote:

> Hello,
> I currently don't use Super-Duper, so I don't know about them.
> CCC was updated a few days ago. Also, I read somewhere that the developer of 
> CCC works for Apple. So I don't think you'll go wrong.
> 
> 
> Dan
> 
> On Jul 24, 2011, at 9:59 PM, Paul Henrichsen wrote:
> 
>> Thanks, Mike. So, It would appear the smarter move would be to use carbon 
>> copy cloner and save yourself $26. I just wanted to make sure they had the 
>> same features before I decided which to buy.
>> SuperDuper has that sandbox feature, but that doesn't sound like anything 
>> I'd use.
>> I'm also a bit concerned as to how often a developer would update a free 
>> program as opposed to one where he made some money from the program.
>> I guess you have to assume that people will pay the $10 to the CCC program 
>> developer and not just continue to use is program for free.
>> 
>> On Jul 24, 2011, at 10:22 AM, Mike Arrigo wrote:
>> 
>>> Both programs have this feature, but you need to purchase super duper to 
>>> get it, carbon copy cloner is totally free, though you can make a donation, 
>>> which is worth it, it's a great program. I use carbon copy cloner myself, 
>>> but super duper is a great program as well.
>>> On Jul 23, 2011, at 1:08 PM, Paul Henrichsen wrote:
>>> 
 Hi, Guys. I am wondering if there is any significance between Carbon Copy 
 Cloner and SuperDuper. Obviously, one is free and one costs $26. But do 
 both have the smart backup feature?
 I'm trying to figure which to get, but I really want the smart backup 
 feature so my backups to a USB drive won't take so long.
 Thanks for any help.
 

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Re: SuperDuper Versus Carbon Copy Cloner

[Darcy Burnard]

Hi.  I also prefer Carbon Copy Cloner.  There was one time however where CCC 
wouldn't do what I wanted, and the free version of Super Duper would.  I wanted 
to clone the disks that came with my Mac to an SD card.  CCC couldn't manage 
this for some reason.
But that's the only time CCC didn't meet my needs, and given the new way Lion 
is distributed, I don't see myself wanting to clone boot disks again.
Darcy

On 2011-07-25, at 1:47 AM, Esther wrote:

> Hi Dan, Paul, Mike, and Others,
> 
> Like Mike, I've used both SuperDuper! and Carbon Copy Cloner.  And like Mike 
> and Dan, I'm mostly using CCC right now, but I think it's more a question of 
> personal preference.  For the purposes of making a bootable clone of your 
> hard drive, which is one of the main uses of these programs in contrast to 
> Apple's built-in Time Machine backup, either program will work: this 
> functionality is complete in the free trial download of SuperDuper!  
> 
> Mike Bombich (developer of CCC) did work for Apple for several years after 
> writing the first few versions of CCC for his own work as an IT support guy 
> in higher education, and then making it generally available. However, he's 
> currently working on his own projects, so there is no direct affiliation with 
> Apple now.
> 
> Lynne Smith, one of the mods/owners of the mac-access list wrote up a nice 
> article on making backup clone drives with CCC, SuperDuper! or with Terminal:
> http://www.mac-access.net/Extras/System_Backup.html 
> 
> As Mike says, both of these are good products.  I like the fact that CCC 
> gives good, brief descriptions, and seems to be a bit faster.  However, many 
> new users like the more extensive documentation of SuperDuper! So it really 
> is a question of style, here.
> 
> I have one question for others who have used these products.  Does anyone who 
> uses a Bootcamp partition know the preferred means of backup via these 
> software packages?  I'm asking for someone else, since I don't use Windows on 
> my Mac.  My understanding from reading the FAQs is that CCC will copy the 
> Bootcamp partition, but that you can't directly boot into the Bootcamp 
> partition using the cloned drive.  You can copy the Bootcamp partition back 
> onto your main hard drive after you've done a system upgrade.  It appeared to 
> me that 
> Super Duper! would not handle the Bootcamp partition at all, although both 
> these products can handle backing up a Virtual Machine.
> 
> Does anyone know how Bootcamp partitions (using Windows XP) work in Lion?  
> The reason this may be tricky is that the Lion installation creates a 
> recovery partition, and I don't believe the system "knows" about Bootcamp 
> partitions that may be present on the disk when it writes the new recovery 
> partition.  Thanks for any pointers on this.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Esther
> 
> On Jul 24, 2011, at 19:07, Dan wrote:
> 
>> Hello,
>> I currently don't use Super-Duper, so I don't know about them.
>> CCC was updated a few days ago. Also, I read somewhere that the developer of 
>> CCC works for Apple. So I don't think you'll go wrong.
>> 
>> 
>> Dan
>> 
>> On Jul 24, 2011, at 9:59 PM, Paul Henrichsen wrote:
>> 
>>> Thanks, Mike. So, It would appear the smarter move would be to use carbon 
>>> copy cloner and save yourself $26. I just wanted to make sure they had the 
>>> same features before I decided which to buy.
>>> SuperDuper has that sandbox feature, but that doesn't sound like anything 
>>> I'd use.
>>> I'm also a bit concerned as to how often a developer would update a free 
>>> program as opposed to one where he made some money from the program.
>>> I guess you have to assume that people will pay the $10 to the CCC program 
>>> developer and not just continue to use is program for free.
>>> 
>>> On Jul 24, 2011, at 10:22 AM, Mike Arrigo wrote:
>>> 
 Both programs have this feature, but you need to purchase super duper to 
 get it, carbon copy cloner is totally free, though you can make a 
 donation, which is worth it, it's a great program. I use carbon copy 
 cloner myself, but super duper is a great program as well.
 On Jul 23, 2011, at 1:08 PM, Paul Henrichsen wrote:
 
> Hi, Guys. I am wondering if there is any significance between Carbon Copy 
> Cloner and SuperDuper. Obviously, one is free and one costs $26. But do 
> both have the smart backup feature?
> I'm trying to figure which to get, but I really want the smart backup 
> feature so my backups to a USB drive won't take so long.
> Thanks for any help.
> 
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Re: SuperDuper vs Carbon Copy Cloner

[Mike Arrigo]

CCC 5 is fairly similar to version 4, it has more features than super 
duper and does work with APFS drives. CCC also has the ability to clone 
Apple's recovery partition which Super Duper does not do last I checked.

Original message:

I had been using CCC 4 for some time but switched to Superduper as
it was faster to set up and use.



Now I may switch back because the current version of Superduper,
2.92,  although it should support High Sierra, does not see any APFS
formatted drives.



If any of you are running CCC 5, how does it compare to the previous
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Re: SuperDuper vs Carbon Copy Cloner

[E.T.]

   Thanks Mike. I am curious, what is the advantage of cloning the 
recovery partition?


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On 10/9/2017 12:52 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote:
CCC 5 is fairly similar to version 4, it has more features than super 
duper and does work with APFS drives. CCC also has the ability to clone 
Apple's recovery partition which Super Duper does not do last I checked.

Original message:

    I had been using CCC 4 for some time but switched to Superduper as
it was faster to set up and use.



    Now I may switch back because the current version of Superduper,
2.92,  although it should support High Sierra, does not see any APFS
formatted drives.



    If any of you are running CCC 5, how does it compare to the previous
version 4?



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Re: SuperDuper vs Carbon Copy Cloner

[Mike Arrigo]

Cloning the recovery partition makes it much easier if you want to do a 
clean install on another mac, just boot from the cloned recovery, erase 
the hard drive and you can do a clean install which I prefer to do for 
each major release of the operating system, it takes a bit more time 
but it's well worth it.

Original message:

Thanks Mike. I am curious, what is the advantage of cloning the
recovery partition?



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On 10/9/2017 12:52 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote:

CCC 5 is fairly similar to version 4, it has more features than super
duper and does work with APFS drives. CCC also has the ability to clone
Apple's recovery partition which Super Duper does not do last I checked.
Original message:

    I had been using CCC 4 for some time but switched to Superduper as
it was faster to set up and use.



    Now I may switch back because the current version of Superduper,
2.92,  although it should support High Sierra, does not see any APFS
formatted drives.



    If any of you are running CCC 5, how does it compare to the previous
version 4?



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Re: SuperDuper vs Carbon Copy Cloner

[E.T.]

   Good information, thanks. I too like to do clean installs.The more I 
do the easier it is.


   By the way, for anyone who uses Superduper. I took a closer look at 
their web site. The current version does not support APFS. Their version 
3 which is in beta will support APFS.


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On 10/10/2017 7:05 AM, Mike Arrigo wrote:
Cloning the recovery partition makes it much easier if you want to do a 
clean install on another mac, just boot from the cloned recovery, erase 
the hard drive and you can do a clean install which I prefer to do for 
each major release of the operating system, it takes a bit more time but 
it's well worth it.

Original message:

    Thanks Mike. I am curious, what is the advantage of cloning the
recovery partition?



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On 10/9/2017 12:52 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote:

CCC 5 is fairly similar to version 4, it has more features than super
duper and does work with APFS drives. CCC also has the ability to clone
Apple's recovery partition which Super Duper does not do last I checked.
Original message:

    I had been using CCC 4 for some time but switched to Superduper as
it was faster to set up and use.



    Now I may switch back because the current version of Superduper,
2.92,  although it should support High Sierra, does not see any APFS
formatted drives.


    If any of you are running CCC 5, how does it compare to the 
previous

version 4?



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Re: SuperDuper vs Carbon Copy Cloner

[Mike Arrigo]

Sounds like their development is falling behind, with high sierra, all 
SSD drives are converted automatically, CCC was ready to go the day 
high Sierra was released.

Original message:

Good information, thanks. I too like to do clean installs.The more I
do the easier it is.



By the way, for anyone who uses Superduper. I took a closer look at
their web site. The current version does not support APFS. Their version
3 which is in beta will support APFS.



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On 10/10/2017 7:05 AM, Mike Arrigo wrote:

Cloning the recovery partition makes it much easier if you want to do a
clean install on another mac, just boot from the cloned recovery, erase
the hard drive and you can do a clean install which I prefer to do for
each major release of the operating system, it takes a bit more time but
it's well worth it.
Original message:

    Thanks Mike. I am curious, what is the advantage of cloning the
recovery partition?



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   mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
   our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
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On 10/9/2017 12:52 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote:

CCC 5 is fairly similar to version 4, it has more features than super
duper and does work with APFS drives. CCC also has the ability to clone
Apple's recovery partition which Super Duper does not do last I checked.
Original message:

    I had been using CCC 4 for some time but switched to Superduper as
it was faster to set up and use.



    Now I may switch back because the current version of Superduper,
2.92,  although it should support High Sierra, does not see any APFS
formatted drives.



    If any of you are running CCC 5, how does it compare to the
previous
version 4?



 From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
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   mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
   our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
   and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
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Re: SuperDuper vs Carbon Copy Cloner

[Michael Marshall]

i have never played with CCC but have thought about it.
Do you use the program in conjunction with Time Machine?
How would you restore a Mac cloned with this program?

> On 11 Oct 2017, at 3:05 am, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
> 
> Sounds like their development is falling behind, with high sierra, all SSD 
> drives are converted automatically, CCC was ready to go the day high Sierra 
> was released.
> Original message:
>>Good information, thanks. I too like to do clean installs.The more I
>> do the easier it is.
> 
>>By the way, for anyone who uses Superduper. I took a closer look at
>> their web site. The current version does not support APFS. Their version
>> 3 which is in beta will support APFS.
> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>>   "God for you is where you sweep away all the
>>   mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
>>   our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
>>   and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
>> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
>> On 10/10/2017 7:05 AM, Mike Arrigo wrote:
>>> Cloning the recovery partition makes it much easier if you want to do a
>>> clean install on another mac, just boot from the cloned recovery, erase
>>> the hard drive and you can do a clean install which I prefer to do for
>>> each major release of the operating system, it takes a bit more time but
>>> it's well worth it.
>>> Original message:
 Thanks Mike. I am curious, what is the advantage of cloning the
 recovery partition?
> 
  From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
"God for you is where you sweep away all the
mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
 E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
 On 10/9/2017 12:52 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote:
> CCC 5 is fairly similar to version 4, it has more features than super
> duper and does work with APFS drives. CCC also has the ability to clone
> Apple's recovery partition which Super Duper does not do last I checked.
> Original message:
>> I had been using CCC 4 for some time but switched to Superduper as
>> it was faster to set up and use.
> 
>> Now I may switch back because the current version of Superduper,
>> 2.92,  although it should support High Sierra, does not see any APFS
>> formatted drives.
> 
>> If any of you are running CCC 5, how does it compare to the
>> previous
>> version 4?
> 
>>  From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>>"God for you is where you sweep away all the
>>mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
>>our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
>>and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
>> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
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Re: SuperDuper vs Carbon Copy Cloner

[E.T.]

   I do. It may be redundant but better safe than sorry. And, I put 
backups on separate external drives. The drives are partitioned but if 
the drive itself goes belly up, that will take all the data with it.


From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
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On 10/10/2017 7:18 PM, Michael Marshall wrote:

i have never played with CCC but have thought about it.
Do you use the program in conjunction with Time Machine?
How would you restore a Mac cloned with this program?


On 11 Oct 2017, at 3:05 am, Mike Arrigo  wrote:

Sounds like their development is falling behind, with high sierra, all SSD 
drives are converted automatically, CCC was ready to go the day high Sierra was 
released.
Original message:

Good information, thanks. I too like to do clean installs.The more I
do the easier it is.



By the way, for anyone who uses Superduper. I took a closer look at
their web site. The current version does not support APFS. Their version
3 which is in beta will support APFS.



 From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
   "God for you is where you sweep away all the
   mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
   our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
   and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com



On 10/10/2017 7:05 AM, Mike Arrigo wrote:

Cloning the recovery partition makes it much easier if you want to do a
clean install on another mac, just boot from the cloned recovery, erase
the hard drive and you can do a clean install which I prefer to do for
each major release of the operating system, it takes a bit more time but
it's well worth it.
Original message:

 Thanks Mike. I am curious, what is the advantage of cloning the
recovery partition?



  From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
"God for you is where you sweep away all the
mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com



On 10/9/2017 12:52 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote:

CCC 5 is fairly similar to version 4, it has more features than super
duper and does work with APFS drives. CCC also has the ability to clone
Apple's recovery partition which Super Duper does not do last I checked.
Original message:

 I had been using CCC 4 for some time but switched to Superduper as
it was faster to set up and use.



 Now I may switch back because the current version of Superduper,
2.92,  although it should support High Sierra, does not see any APFS
formatted drives.



 If any of you are running CCC 5, how does it compare to the
previous
version 4?



  From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
"God for you is where you sweep away all the
mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com



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Re: SuperDuper vs Carbon Copy Cloner

[Mike Arrigo]

I use CCC for my backups, I don't use time machine, mainly because I 
don't make a lot of changes to a lot of files at once. As far as 
restoring from a CCC backup, you would boot your mac from your backup 
drive, you can then use CCC to clone back to your internal drive, 
fortunately I have never had to do this.

Original message:

I do. It may be redundant but better safe than sorry. And, I put
backups on separate external drives. The drives are partitioned but if
the drive itself goes belly up, that will take all the data with it.



 From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
   "God for you is where you sweep away all the
   mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
   our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
   and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com



On 10/10/2017 7:18 PM, Michael Marshall wrote:

i have never played with CCC but have thought about it.
Do you use the program in conjunction with Time Machine?
How would you restore a Mac cloned with this program?



On 11 Oct 2017, at 3:05 am, Mike Arrigo  wrote:


Sounds like their development is falling behind, with high sierra, all 
SSD drives are converted automatically, CCC was ready to go the day 
high Sierra was released.

Original message:

Good information, thanks. I too like to do clean installs.The more I
do the easier it is.



By the way, for anyone who uses Superduper. I took a closer look at
their web site. The current version does not support APFS. Their version
3 which is in beta will support APFS.



 From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
   "God for you is where you sweep away all the
   mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
   our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
   and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com



On 10/10/2017 7:05 AM, Mike Arrigo wrote:

Cloning the recovery partition makes it much easier if you want to do a
clean install on another mac, just boot from the cloned recovery, erase
the hard drive and you can do a clean install which I prefer to do for
each major release of the operating system, it takes a bit more time but
it's well worth it.
Original message:

 Thanks Mike. I am curious, what is the advantage of cloning the
recovery partition?



  From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
"God for you is where you sweep away all the
mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com



On 10/9/2017 12:52 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote:

CCC 5 is fairly similar to version 4, it has more features than super
duper and does work with APFS drives. CCC also has the ability to clone
Apple's recovery partition which Super Duper does not do last I checked.
Original message:

 I had been using CCC 4 for some time but switched to Superduper as
it was faster to set up and use.



 Now I may switch back because the current version of Superduper,
2.92,  although it should support High Sierra, does not see any APFS
formatted drives.



 If any of you are running CCC 5, how does it compare to the
previous
version 4?



  From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
"God for you is where you sweep away all the
mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
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Re: SuperDuper vs Carbon Copy Cloner

[Michael Marshall]

hey,
can CCC keep track of file changes?

> On 12 Oct 2017, at 8:19 am, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
> 
> I use CCC for my backups, I don't use time machine, mainly because I don't 
> make a lot of changes to a lot of files at once. As far as restoring from a 
> CCC backup, you would boot your mac from your backup drive, you can then use 
> CCC to clone back to your internal drive, fortunately I have never had to do 
> this.
> Original message:
>>I do. It may be redundant but better safe than sorry. And, I put
>> backups on separate external drives. The drives are partitioned but if
>> the drive itself goes belly up, that will take all the data with it.
> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>>   "God for you is where you sweep away all the
>>   mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
>>   our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
>>   and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
>> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
>> On 10/10/2017 7:18 PM, Michael Marshall wrote:
>>> i have never played with CCC but have thought about it.
>>> Do you use the program in conjunction with Time Machine?
>>> How would you restore a Mac cloned with this program?
> 
 On 11 Oct 2017, at 3:05 am, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
> 
 Sounds like their development is falling behind, with high sierra, all SSD 
 drives are converted automatically, CCC was ready to go the day high 
 Sierra was released.
 Original message:
>Good information, thanks. I too like to do clean installs.The more I
> do the easier it is.
> 
>By the way, for anyone who uses Superduper. I took a closer look at
> their web site. The current version does not support APFS. Their version
> 3 which is in beta will support APFS.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>   "God for you is where you sweep away all the
>   mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
>   our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
>   and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
> On 10/10/2017 7:05 AM, Mike Arrigo wrote:
>> Cloning the recovery partition makes it much easier if you want to do a
>> clean install on another mac, just boot from the cloned recovery, erase
>> the hard drive and you can do a clean install which I prefer to do for
>> each major release of the operating system, it takes a bit more time but
>> it's well worth it.
>> Original message:
>>> Thanks Mike. I am curious, what is the advantage of cloning the
>>> recovery partition?
> 
>>>  From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>>>"God for you is where you sweep away all the
>>>mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
>>>our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
>>>and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
>>> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
>>> On 10/9/2017 12:52 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote:
 CCC 5 is fairly similar to version 4, it has more features than super
 duper and does work with APFS drives. CCC also has the ability to clone
 Apple's recovery partition which Super Duper does not do last I 
 checked.
 Original message:
> I had been using CCC 4 for some time but switched to Superduper as
> it was faster to set up and use.
> 
> Now I may switch back because the current version of Superduper,
> 2.92,  although it should support High Sierra, does not see any APFS
> formatted drives.
> 
> If any of you are running CCC 5, how does it compare to the
> previous
> version 4?
> 
>  From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>"God for you is where you sweep away all the
>mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
>our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
>and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
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Re: SuperDuper vs Carbon Copy Cloner

[E.T.]

   Yes. Its called SafetyNet.

From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
  "God for you is where you sweep away all the
  mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
  our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
  and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 10/11/2017 5:47 PM, Michael Marshall wrote:

hey,
can CCC keep track of file changes?


On 12 Oct 2017, at 8:19 am, Mike Arrigo  wrote:

I use CCC for my backups, I don't use time machine, mainly because I don't make 
a lot of changes to a lot of files at once. As far as restoring from a CCC 
backup, you would boot your mac from your backup drive, you can then use CCC to 
clone back to your internal drive, fortunately I have never had to do this.
Original message:

I do. It may be redundant but better safe than sorry. And, I put
backups on separate external drives. The drives are partitioned but if
the drive itself goes belly up, that will take all the data with it.



 From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
   "God for you is where you sweep away all the
   mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
   our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
   and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com



On 10/10/2017 7:18 PM, Michael Marshall wrote:

i have never played with CCC but have thought about it.
Do you use the program in conjunction with Time Machine?
How would you restore a Mac cloned with this program?



On 11 Oct 2017, at 3:05 am, Mike Arrigo  wrote:



Sounds like their development is falling behind, with high sierra, all SSD 
drives are converted automatically, CCC was ready to go the day high Sierra was 
released.
Original message:

Good information, thanks. I too like to do clean installs.The more I
do the easier it is.



By the way, for anyone who uses Superduper. I took a closer look at
their web site. The current version does not support APFS. Their version
3 which is in beta will support APFS.



 From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
   "God for you is where you sweep away all the
   mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
   our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
   and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com



On 10/10/2017 7:05 AM, Mike Arrigo wrote:

Cloning the recovery partition makes it much easier if you want to do a
clean install on another mac, just boot from the cloned recovery, erase
the hard drive and you can do a clean install which I prefer to do for
each major release of the operating system, it takes a bit more time but
it's well worth it.
Original message:

 Thanks Mike. I am curious, what is the advantage of cloning the
recovery partition?



  From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
"God for you is where you sweep away all the
mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com



On 10/9/2017 12:52 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote:

CCC 5 is fairly similar to version 4, it has more features than super
duper and does work with APFS drives. CCC also has the ability to clone
Apple's recovery partition which Super Duper does not do last I checked.
Original message:

 I had been using CCC 4 for some time but switched to Superduper as
it was faster to set up and use.



 Now I may switch back because the current version of Superduper,
2.92,  although it should support High Sierra, does not see any APFS
formatted drives.



 If any of you are running CCC 5, how does it compare to the
previous
version 4?



  From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
"God for you is where you sweep away all the
mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
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