Re: voiceover won't cooperate
Well, I think I did all that. I just started a new ward and don't have any home teachers yet. I've decided to move to Chicago ASAP, so hopefully, I'll get there before June. Jenny On May 1, 2012, at 3:59 PM, Steve Holmes wrote: You can do it either way. Look around the User options under System preferences. I forget what the option is called exactly but there is something to specify to Automatically login. But in case this keeps acting up on you, you may want to check the VoiceOver at login option also. I mentioned this in my last message but you may not have seen that one yet. Oh, if I had that much transportation trouble, I'd give my home teachers a call (LDS right?) If they have the time and are any good at all, they should be able to help you out or refer someone to help you out. that's one beauty of our church. On 5/1/12, Jenny Keller jlperd...@gmail.com wrote: What if you don't want to log in, you just want it to go to the desk top? Jenny On May 1, 2012, at 3:31 PM, Jonathan C. Cohn wrote: You don't by any chance have file vault turned on do you? Go to system preferences: Find the Security and Privacy panel. In this panel is a tab called File Vault It should list your disk and tell you that file vault is turned off/ or on. You are aware that for non-file vault systems, you can configure the login screen to use voice over and that you can even toggle voice over on/off with command-F5 in the standard login screen? Best wishes, JOnathan Jonathan C. Cohn jonc...@cox.net On May 1, 2012, at 4:22 PM, Jenny Keller wrote: I know it would be a good thing to have an apple store look at it, but the store is an hour away so I don't see that as an option. I have had someone look at it and it's just the log in screen. I log in and it still won't talk. I'll see what I can do, but if I can't get someone to take me to have surgery in another town, I doubt very seriously I can get someone to take me to fix my computer. Thanks for the info though. Jenny On May 1, 2012, at 3:19 PM, Jonathan C. Cohn wrote: If you think it is a problem that could be fixed at the Apple Store, then I suggest you beg one of your friends to take you there. You have a one year warranty on the computer and if you didn't drop it or spill water on it, then 99/100 times it will be fixed for free at the Apple store in the first year of service. So you might be saving several hundred dollars if you get there before June. On the other hand, just getting somebody around who can see what is going on with your system at start-up might be all you need. Though in some cases, hitting control-tab after a couple minutes gets things in a normal state. Best regards, Jonathan Jonathan C. Cohn jonc...@cox.net On May 1, 2012, at 12:33 PM, Jenny Keller wrote: Oh boy, that's not in my budget. I guess I'll just have to deal with it. I have a monitor and mouse connected to it so that isn't the problem. I just got it last June, so I don't know what the deal is. I'll just have to deal with it as I've said cause I can't afford to go to the town where the apple store is, and sure can't afford to pay for them to look at it, uch less fix it. Crap. Jenny On May 1, 2012, at 10:57 AM, Steve Holmes wrote: You will probably not like my answer; I never get that problem on my Mac Mini. Even back when I first got my Mini and did not have a monitor connected, VO wouldn't start automatically after I logged in but I got the same behavior every time I started my machine. One thing different with my setup from yours is I intentionally have my machine set to require a login each time. I also have VO enabled for the login screen. After I hooked up a cheap monitor,VO starts up properly every time and since I have Terminal set as one of the apps to be started at login time, I have consistent focus to the desktop. All that is fine here. If your machine keeps doing this on a repeated basis, you ot to take it into the Apple store (if possible) and have a genius take a look at it; wonder if there is a hardware issue or something. I remember you asking this question some time ago but I didn't recall anyone answering it either. On 5/1/12, Jenny Keller jlperd...@gmail.com wrote: Every other time I turn on my computer I get the log in screen, and the only reason I know that is because I have just barely enough vision to see it. Voice over is set to start during that screen but it doesn't. I log into the system, which it's not supposed to ask me to do anyway because it's set to go directly to the desk top, and when I goes to the desk top, there is a box that since voice over won't come on either automatically or with command F5 I don't know what is going on. It will allow me to use VO M to access the apple menu to shut down properly, and then when I restart the computer the desktop pops up and all is well.
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did that, it still comes up randomly. Jenny On May 1, 2012, at 4:01 PM, M. Taylor wrote: Hello Jenny, Admittedly, I have not been paying close attention to this thread so forgive me for suggesting something that has already been posted but, have you considered turning off the login screen? All things being equal and security concerns aside, if you are the only user, there really is no reason to have it activated at startup. Mark -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jenny Keller Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 1:23 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: voiceover won't cooperate I know it would be a good thing to have an apple store look at it, but the store is an hour away so I don't see that as an option. I have had someone look at it and it's just the log in screen. I log in and it still won't talk. I'll see what I can do, but if I can't get someone to take me to have surgery in another town, I doubt very seriously I can get someone to take me to fix my computer. Thanks for the info though. Jenny On May 1, 2012, at 3:19 PM, Jonathan C. Cohn wrote: If you think it is a problem that could be fixed at the Apple Store, then I suggest you beg one of your friends to take you there. You have a one year warranty on the computer and if you didn't drop it or spill water on it, then 99/100 times it will be fixed for free at the Apple store in the first year of service. So you might be saving several hundred dollars if you get there before June. On the other hand, just getting somebody around who can see what is going on with your system at start-up might be all you need. Though in some cases, hitting control-tab after a couple minutes gets things in a normal state. Best regards, Jonathan Jonathan C. Cohn jonc...@cox.net On May 1, 2012, at 12:33 PM, Jenny Keller wrote: Oh boy, that's not in my budget. I guess I'll just have to deal with it. I have a monitor and mouse connected to it so that isn't the problem. I just got it last June, so I don't know what the deal is. I'll just have to deal with it as I've said cause I can't afford to go to the town where the apple store is, and sure can't afford to pay for them to look at it, uch less fix it. Crap. Jenny On May 1, 2012, at 10:57 AM, Steve Holmes wrote: You will probably not like my answer; I never get that problem on my Mac Mini. Even back when I first got my Mini and did not have a monitor connected, VO wouldn't start automatically after I logged in but I got the same behavior every time I started my machine. One thing different with my setup from yours is I intentionally have my machine set to require a login each time. I also have VO enabled for the login screen. After I hooked up a cheap monitor,VO starts up properly every time and since I have Terminal set as one of the apps to be started at login time, I have consistent focus to the desktop. All that is fine here. If your machine keeps doing this on a repeated basis, you ot to take it into the Apple store (if possible) and have a genius take a look at it; wonder if there is a hardware issue or something. I remember you asking this question some time ago but I didn't recall anyone answering it either. On 5/1/12, Jenny Keller jlperd...@gmail.com wrote: Every other time I turn on my computer I get the log in screen, and the only reason I know that is because I have just barely enough vision to see it. Voice over is set to start during that screen but it doesn't. I log into the system, which it's not supposed to ask me to do anyway because it's set to go directly to the desk top, and when I goes to the desk top, there is a box that since voice over won't come on either automatically or with command F5 I don't know what is going on. It will allow me to use VO M to access the apple menu to shut down properly, and then when I restart the computer the desktop pops up and all is well. What on earth is going on? Jenny -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post
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What version of OSX are you using, first of all? Chris. - Original Message - From: Jenny Keller jlperd...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 10:26 AM Subject: voiceover won't cooperate Every other time I turn on my computer I get the log in screen, and the only reason I know that is because I have just barely enough vision to see it. Voice over is set to start during that screen but it doesn't. I log into the system, which it's not supposed to ask me to do anyway because it's set to go directly to the desk top, and when I goes to the desk top, there is a box that since voice over won't come on either automatically or with command F5 I don't know what is going on. It will allow me to use VO M to access the apple menu to shut down properly, and then when I restart the computer the desktop pops up and all is well. What on earth is going on? Jenny -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
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Lion, the latest version. Jenny On May 1, 2012, at 10:42 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: What version of OSX are you using, first of all? Chris. - Original Message - From: Jenny Keller jlperd...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 10:26 AM Subject: voiceover won't cooperate Every other time I turn on my computer I get the log in screen, and the only reason I know that is because I have just barely enough vision to see it. Voice over is set to start during that screen but it doesn't. I log into the system, which it's not supposed to ask me to do anyway because it's set to go directly to the desk top, and when I goes to the desk top, there is a box that since voice over won't come on either automatically or with command F5 I don't know what is going on. It will allow me to use VO M to access the apple menu to shut down properly, and then when I restart the computer the desktop pops up and all is well. What on earth is going on? Jenny -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
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You will probably not like my answer; I never get that problem on my Mac Mini. Even back when I first got my Mini and did not have a monitor connected, VO woldn't start automatically after I logged in but I got the same behavior every time I started my machine. One thing different with my settup from yours is I intentionally have my machine set to require a login each time. I also have VO enabled for the login screen. After I hooked up a cheap monitor,VO starts up properly every time and since I have Terminal set as one of the apps to be started at login time, I have consistent focus to the desktop. All that is fine here. If your machine keeps doing this on a repeated basis, you ot to take it into the Apple store (if possible) and have a genius take a look at it; wonder if there is a hardware issue or something. I remember you asking this question some time ago but I didn't recall anyone answering it either. On 5/1/12, Jenny Keller jlperd...@gmail.com wrote: Every other time I turn on my computer I get the log in screen, and the only reason I know that is because I have just barely enough vision to see it. Voice over is set to start during that screen but it doesn't. I log into the system, which it's not supposed to ask me to do anyway because it's set to go directly to the desk top, and when I goes to the desk top, there is a box that since voice over won't come on either automatically or with command F5 I don't know what is going on. It will allow me to use VO M to access the apple menu to shut down properly, and then when I restart the computer the desktop pops up and all is well. What on earth is going on? Jenny -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
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hello; how much space do you have free on your hard drive? when my last macbook's drive was mostly full it would cause weird behavior from voiceover. just a thought, max On May 1, 2012, at 10:44 AM, Jenny Keller wrote: Lion, the latest version. Jenny On May 1, 2012, at 10:42 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: What version of OSX are you using, first of all? Chris. - Original Message - From: Jenny Keller jlperd...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 10:26 AM Subject: voiceover won't cooperate Every other time I turn on my computer I get the log in screen, and the only reason I know that is because I have just barely enough vision to see it. Voice over is set to start during that screen but it doesn't. I log into the system, which it's not supposed to ask me to do anyway because it's set to go directly to the desk top, and when I goes to the desk top, there is a box that since voice over won't come on either automatically or with command F5 I don't know what is going on. It will allow me to use VO M to access the apple menu to shut down properly, and then when I restart the computer the desktop pops up and all is well. What on earth is going on? Jenny -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
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Oh boy, that's not in my budget. I guess I'll just have to deal with it. I have a monitor and mouse connected to it so that isn't the problem. I just got it last June, so I don't know what the deal is. I'll just have to deal with it as I've said cause I can't afford to go to the town where the apple store is, and sure can't afford to pay for them to look at it, uch less fix it. Crap. Jenny On May 1, 2012, at 10:57 AM, Steve Holmes wrote: You will probably not like my answer; I never get that problem on my Mac Mini. Even back when I first got my Mini and did not have a monitor connected, VO wouldn't start automatically after I logged in but I got the same behavior every time I started my machine. One thing different with my setup from yours is I intentionally have my machine set to require a login each time. I also have VO enabled for the login screen. After I hooked up a cheap monitor,VO starts up properly every time and since I have Terminal set as one of the apps to be started at login time, I have consistent focus to the desktop. All that is fine here. If your machine keeps doing this on a repeated basis, you ot to take it into the Apple store (if possible) and have a genius take a look at it; wonder if there is a hardware issue or something. I remember you asking this question some time ago but I didn't recall anyone answering it either. On 5/1/12, Jenny Keller jlperd...@gmail.com wrote: Every other time I turn on my computer I get the log in screen, and the only reason I know that is because I have just barely enough vision to see it. Voice over is set to start during that screen but it doesn't. I log into the system, which it's not supposed to ask me to do anyway because it's set to go directly to the desk top, and when I goes to the desk top, there is a box that since voice over won't come on either automatically or with command F5 I don't know what is going on. It will allow me to use VO M to access the apple menu to shut down properly, and then when I restart the computer the desktop pops up and all is well. What on earth is going on? Jenny -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
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How do I check it? I don't put anything on my computer like music or anything, just documents. Please tell me how to look this up. Jenny On May 1, 2012, at 10:57 AM, Maxwell Ivey wrote: hello; how much space do you have free on your hard drive? when my last macbook's drive was mostly full it would cause weird behavior from voiceover. just a thought, max On May 1, 2012, at 10:44 AM, Jenny Keller wrote: Lion, the latest version. Jenny On May 1, 2012, at 10:42 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: What version of OSX are you using, first of all? Chris. - Original Message - From: Jenny Keller jlperd...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 10:26 AM Subject: voiceover won't cooperate Every other time I turn on my computer I get the log in screen, and the only reason I know that is because I have just barely enough vision to see it. Voice over is set to start during that screen but it doesn't. I log into the system, which it's not supposed to ask me to do anyway because it's set to go directly to the desk top, and when I goes to the desk top, there is a box that since voice over won't come on either automatically or with command F5 I don't know what is going on. It will allow me to use VO M to access the apple menu to shut down properly, and then when I restart the computer the desktop pops up and all is well. What on earth is going on? Jenny -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
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hi there; i understand about not being able to make the trip, but most of the times we took my last computer in they didn't even charge me. there is a new 800 number for voiceover issues. i don't have it on hand, but someone on the list can give it to you. perhaps they could help you trouble shoot this. take care, max On May 1, 2012, at 11:33 AM, Jenny Keller wrote: Oh boy, that's not in my budget. I guess I'll just have to deal with it. I have a monitor and mouse connected to it so that isn't the problem. I just got it last June, so I don't know what the deal is. I'll just have to deal with it as I've said cause I can't afford to go to the town where the apple store is, and sure can't afford to pay for them to look at it, uch less fix it. Crap. Jenny On May 1, 2012, at 10:57 AM, Steve Holmes wrote: You will probably not like my answer; I never get that problem on my Mac Mini. Even back when I first got my Mini and did not have a monitor connected, VO wouldn't start automatically after I logged in but I got the same behavior every time I started my machine. One thing different with my setup from yours is I intentionally have my machine set to require a login each time. I also have VO enabled for the login screen. After I hooked up a cheap monitor,VO starts up properly every time and since I have Terminal set as one of the apps to be started at login time, I have consistent focus to the desktop. All that is fine here. If your machine keeps doing this on a repeated basis, you ot to take it into the Apple store (if possible) and have a genius take a look at it; wonder if there is a hardware issue or something. I remember you asking this question some time ago but I didn't recall anyone answering it either. On 5/1/12, Jenny Keller jlperd...@gmail.com wrote: Every other time I turn on my computer I get the log in screen, and the only reason I know that is because I have just barely enough vision to see it. Voice over is set to start during that screen but it doesn't. I log into the system, which it's not supposed to ask me to do anyway because it's set to go directly to the desk top, and when I goes to the desk top, there is a box that since voice over won't come on either automatically or with command F5 I don't know what is going on. It will allow me to use VO M to access the apple menu to shut down properly, and then when I restart the computer the desktop pops up and all is well. What on earth is going on? Jenny -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
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go to the desktop where it says mac hd and use the command i for inspector. then right arrow until it gives you the available space. but if you don't download movies or music, then that probably wasn't the problem. take care, max On May 1, 2012, at 11:34 AM, Jenny Keller wrote: How do I check it? I don't put anything on my computer like music or anything, just documents. Please tell me how to look this up. Jenny On May 1, 2012, at 10:57 AM, Maxwell Ivey wrote: hello; how much space do you have free on your hard drive? when my last macbook's drive was mostly full it would cause weird behavior from voiceover. just a thought, max On May 1, 2012, at 10:44 AM, Jenny Keller wrote: Lion, the latest version. Jenny On May 1, 2012, at 10:42 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: What version of OSX are you using, first of all? Chris. - Original Message - From: Jenny Keller jlperd...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 10:26 AM Subject: voiceover won't cooperate Every other time I turn on my computer I get the log in screen, and the only reason I know that is because I have just barely enough vision to see it. Voice over is set to start during that screen but it doesn't. I log into the system, which it's not supposed to ask me to do anyway because it's set to go directly to the desk top, and when I goes to the desk top, there is a box that since voice over won't come on either automatically or with command F5 I don't know what is going on. It will allow me to use VO M to access the apple menu to shut down properly, and then when I restart the computer the desktop pops up and all is well. What on earth is going on? Jenny -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
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thanks, I tried to get help from them, but they can't help me if it's not doing it and I can't make it do it on command. It is a random thing every two or three times I turn the computer on. thanks though. I've just learned to deal with it. Jenny On May 1, 2012, at 1:07 PM, Maxwell Ivey wrote: hi there; i understand about not being able to make the trip, but most of the times we took my last computer in they didn't even charge me. there is a new 800 number for voiceover issues. i don't have it on hand, but someone on the list can give it to you. perhaps they could help you trouble shoot this. take care, max On May 1, 2012, at 11:33 AM, Jenny Keller wrote: Oh boy, that's not in my budget. I guess I'll just have to deal with it. I have a monitor and mouse connected to it so that isn't the problem. I just got it last June, so I don't know what the deal is. I'll just have to deal with it as I've said cause I can't afford to go to the town where the apple store is, and sure can't afford to pay for them to look at it, uch less fix it. Crap. Jenny On May 1, 2012, at 10:57 AM, Steve Holmes wrote: You will probably not like my answer; I never get that problem on my Mac Mini. Even back when I first got my Mini and did not have a monitor connected, VO wouldn't start automatically after I logged in but I got the same behavior every time I started my machine. One thing different with my setup from yours is I intentionally have my machine set to require a login each time. I also have VO enabled for the login screen. After I hooked up a cheap monitor,VO starts up properly every time and since I have Terminal set as one of the apps to be started at login time, I have consistent focus to the desktop. All that is fine here. If your machine keeps doing this on a repeated basis, you ot to take it into the Apple store (if possible) and have a genius take a look at it; wonder if there is a hardware issue or something. I remember you asking this question some time ago but I didn't recall anyone answering it either. On 5/1/12, Jenny Keller jlperd...@gmail.com wrote: Every other time I turn on my computer I get the log in screen, and the only reason I know that is because I have just barely enough vision to see it. Voice over is set to start during that screen but it doesn't. I log into the system, which it's not supposed to ask me to do anyway because it's set to go directly to the desk top, and when I goes to the desk top, there is a box that since voice over won't come on either automatically or with command F5 I don't know what is going on. It will allow me to use VO M to access the apple menu to shut down properly, and then when I restart the computer the desktop pops up and all is well. What on earth is going on? Jenny -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
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thanks. Jenny On May 1, 2012, at 1:08 PM, Maxwell Ivey wrote: go to the desktop where it says mac hd and use the command i for inspector. then right arrow until it gives you the available space. but if you don't download movies or music, then that probably wasn't the problem. take care, max On May 1, 2012, at 11:34 AM, Jenny Keller wrote: How do I check it? I don't put anything on my computer like music or anything, just documents. Please tell me how to look this up. Jenny On May 1, 2012, at 10:57 AM, Maxwell Ivey wrote: hello; how much space do you have free on your hard drive? when my last macbook's drive was mostly full it would cause weird behavior from voiceover. just a thought, max On May 1, 2012, at 10:44 AM, Jenny Keller wrote: Lion, the latest version. Jenny On May 1, 2012, at 10:42 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: What version of OSX are you using, first of all? Chris. - Original Message - From: Jenny Keller jlperd...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 10:26 AM Subject: voiceover won't cooperate Every other time I turn on my computer I get the log in screen, and the only reason I know that is because I have just barely enough vision to see it. Voice over is set to start during that screen but it doesn't. I log into the system, which it's not supposed to ask me to do anyway because it's set to go directly to the desk top, and when I goes to the desk top, there is a box that since voice over won't come on either automatically or with command F5 I don't know what is going on. It will allow me to use VO M to access the apple menu to shut down properly, and then when I restart the computer the desktop pops up and all is well. What on earth is going on? Jenny -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
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If you think it is a problem that could be fixed at the Apple Store, then I suggest you beg one of your friends to take you there. You have a one year warrenty on the computer and if you didn't drop it or spill water on it, then 99/100 times it will be fixed for free at the Apple store in the first year of service. So you might be saving several hundred dollars if you get there before June. On the other hand, just getting somebody around who can see what is going on with your system at start-up might be all you need. Though in some cases, hitting control-tab after a couple minutes gets things in a normal state. Best regards, Jonathan Jonathan C. Cohn jonc...@cox.net On May 1, 2012, at 12:33 PM, Jenny Keller wrote: Oh boy, that's not in my budget. I guess I'll just have to deal with it. I have a monitor and mouse connected to it so that isn't the problem. I just got it last June, so I don't know what the deal is. I'll just have to deal with it as I've said cause I can't afford to go to the town where the apple store is, and sure can't afford to pay for them to look at it, uch less fix it. Crap. Jenny On May 1, 2012, at 10:57 AM, Steve Holmes wrote: You will probably not like my answer; I never get that problem on my Mac Mini. Even back when I first got my Mini and did not have a monitor connected, VO wouldn't start automatically after I logged in but I got the same behavior every time I started my machine. One thing different with my setup from yours is I intentionally have my machine set to require a login each time. I also have VO enabled for the login screen. After I hooked up a cheap monitor,VO starts up properly every time and since I have Terminal set as one of the apps to be started at login time, I have consistent focus to the desktop. All that is fine here. If your machine keeps doing this on a repeated basis, you ot to take it into the Apple store (if possible) and have a genius take a look at it; wonder if there is a hardware issue or something. I remember you asking this question some time ago but I didn't recall anyone answering it either. On 5/1/12, Jenny Keller jlperd...@gmail.com wrote: Every other time I turn on my computer I get the log in screen, and the only reason I know that is because I have just barely enough vision to see it. Voice over is set to start during that screen but it doesn't. I log into the system, which it's not supposed to ask me to do anyway because it's set to go directly to the desk top, and when I goes to the desk top, there is a box that since voice over won't come on either automatically or with command F5 I don't know what is going on. It will allow me to use VO M to access the apple menu to shut down properly, and then when I restart the computer the desktop pops up and all is well. What on earth is going on? Jenny -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: voiceover won't cooperate
I know it would be a good thing to have an apple store look at it, but the store is an hour away so I don't see that as an option. I have had someone look at it and it's just the log in screen. I log in and it still won't talk. I'll see what I can do, but if I can't get someone to take me to have surgery in another town, I doubt very seriously I can get someone to take me to fix my computer. Thanks for the info though. Jenny On May 1, 2012, at 3:19 PM, Jonathan C. Cohn wrote: If you think it is a problem that could be fixed at the Apple Store, then I suggest you beg one of your friends to take you there. You have a one year warranty on the computer and if you didn't drop it or spill water on it, then 99/100 times it will be fixed for free at the Apple store in the first year of service. So you might be saving several hundred dollars if you get there before June. On the other hand, just getting somebody around who can see what is going on with your system at start-up might be all you need. Though in some cases, hitting control-tab after a couple minutes gets things in a normal state. Best regards, Jonathan Jonathan C. Cohn jonc...@cox.net On May 1, 2012, at 12:33 PM, Jenny Keller wrote: Oh boy, that's not in my budget. I guess I'll just have to deal with it. I have a monitor and mouse connected to it so that isn't the problem. I just got it last June, so I don't know what the deal is. I'll just have to deal with it as I've said cause I can't afford to go to the town where the apple store is, and sure can't afford to pay for them to look at it, uch less fix it. Crap. Jenny On May 1, 2012, at 10:57 AM, Steve Holmes wrote: You will probably not like my answer; I never get that problem on my Mac Mini. Even back when I first got my Mini and did not have a monitor connected, VO wouldn't start automatically after I logged in but I got the same behavior every time I started my machine. One thing different with my setup from yours is I intentionally have my machine set to require a login each time. I also have VO enabled for the login screen. After I hooked up a cheap monitor,VO starts up properly every time and since I have Terminal set as one of the apps to be started at login time, I have consistent focus to the desktop. All that is fine here. If your machine keeps doing this on a repeated basis, you ot to take it into the Apple store (if possible) and have a genius take a look at it; wonder if there is a hardware issue or something. I remember you asking this question some time ago but I didn't recall anyone answering it either. On 5/1/12, Jenny Keller jlperd...@gmail.com wrote: Every other time I turn on my computer I get the log in screen, and the only reason I know that is because I have just barely enough vision to see it. Voice over is set to start during that screen but it doesn't. I log into the system, which it's not supposed to ask me to do anyway because it's set to go directly to the desk top, and when I goes to the desk top, there is a box that since voice over won't come on either automatically or with command F5 I don't know what is going on. It will allow me to use VO M to access the apple menu to shut down properly, and then when I restart the computer the desktop pops up and all is well. What on earth is going on? Jenny -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post
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You don't by any chance have file vault turned on do you? Go to system preferences: Find the Security and Privacy panel. In this panel is a tab called File Vault It should list your disk and tell you that file vault is turned off/ or on. You are aware that for non-file vault systems, you can configure the login screen to use voice over and that you can even toggle voice over on/off with command-F5 in the standard login screen? Best wishes, JOnathan Jonathan C. Cohn jonc...@cox.net On May 1, 2012, at 4:22 PM, Jenny Keller wrote: I know it would be a good thing to have an apple store look at it, but the store is an hour away so I don't see that as an option. I have had someone look at it and it's just the log in screen. I log in and it still won't talk. I'll see what I can do, but if I can't get someone to take me to have surgery in another town, I doubt very seriously I can get someone to take me to fix my computer. Thanks for the info though. Jenny On May 1, 2012, at 3:19 PM, Jonathan C. Cohn wrote: If you think it is a problem that could be fixed at the Apple Store, then I suggest you beg one of your friends to take you there. You have a one year warranty on the computer and if you didn't drop it or spill water on it, then 99/100 times it will be fixed for free at the Apple store in the first year of service. So you might be saving several hundred dollars if you get there before June. On the other hand, just getting somebody around who can see what is going on with your system at start-up might be all you need. Though in some cases, hitting control-tab after a couple minutes gets things in a normal state. Best regards, Jonathan Jonathan C. Cohn jonc...@cox.net On May 1, 2012, at 12:33 PM, Jenny Keller wrote: Oh boy, that's not in my budget. I guess I'll just have to deal with it. I have a monitor and mouse connected to it so that isn't the problem. I just got it last June, so I don't know what the deal is. I'll just have to deal with it as I've said cause I can't afford to go to the town where the apple store is, and sure can't afford to pay for them to look at it, uch less fix it. Crap. Jenny On May 1, 2012, at 10:57 AM, Steve Holmes wrote: You will probably not like my answer; I never get that problem on my Mac Mini. Even back when I first got my Mini and did not have a monitor connected, VO wouldn't start automatically after I logged in but I got the same behavior every time I started my machine. One thing different with my setup from yours is I intentionally have my machine set to require a login each time. I also have VO enabled for the login screen. After I hooked up a cheap monitor,VO starts up properly every time and since I have Terminal set as one of the apps to be started at login time, I have consistent focus to the desktop. All that is fine here. If your machine keeps doing this on a repeated basis, you ot to take it into the Apple store (if possible) and have a genius take a look at it; wonder if there is a hardware issue or something. I remember you asking this question some time ago but I didn't recall anyone answering it either. On 5/1/12, Jenny Keller jlperd...@gmail.com wrote: Every other time I turn on my computer I get the log in screen, and the only reason I know that is because I have just barely enough vision to see it. Voice over is set to start during that screen but it doesn't. I log into the system, which it's not supposed to ask me to do anyway because it's set to go directly to the desk top, and when I goes to the desk top, there is a box that since voice over won't come on either automatically or with command F5 I don't know what is going on. It will allow me to use VO M to access the apple menu to shut down properly, and then when I restart the computer the desktop pops up and all is well. What on earth is going on? Jenny -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For
Re: voiceover won't cooperate
I second Jonhathan's remarks here. Apple provides a 1 year warantee for all their computers at a minimum and if you can dig up a spare $99 before this June, you can extend your coverage for an additional two years; that's the Apple Care program. Anyway, without the Apple Care, you can still get that box down to an Apple store before June and it shouldn't cost you a dime. You should not be experiencing random behavior with your machine; at least not having to log in sometimes and other times not. Maybe one way to get something consistent could be to go into your system preferences and go bback to requiring a login and while in there, set login options to use VoiceOver. You can find all this under System Preferences - User options. I don't have my machine in front of me right now so cannot give you more exact information. At least then perhaps you could have speech the whole time and just login each time; VO should come up each time the login completes. See, VO runs during the login screen, then it turns off depending on who logs in and then if you previously had VO running in that user session, then VO will come back on. Hope this isn't too confusing. On 5/1/12, Jenny Keller jlperd...@gmail.com wrote: thanks. Jenny On May 1, 2012, at 1:08 PM, Maxwell Ivey wrote: go to the desktop where it says mac hd and use the command i for inspector. then right arrow until it gives you the available space. but if you don't download movies or music, then that probably wasn't the problem. take care, max On May 1, 2012, at 11:34 AM, Jenny Keller wrote: How do I check it? I don't put anything on my computer like music or anything, just documents. Please tell me how to look this up. Jenny On May 1, 2012, at 10:57 AM, Maxwell Ivey wrote: hello; how much space do you have free on your hard drive? when my last macbook's drive was mostly full it would cause weird behavior from voiceover. just a thought, max On May 1, 2012, at 10:44 AM, Jenny Keller wrote: Lion, the latest version. Jenny On May 1, 2012, at 10:42 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: What version of OSX are you using, first of all? Chris. - Original Message - From: Jenny Keller jlperd...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 10:26 AM Subject: voiceover won't cooperate Every other time I turn on my computer I get the log in screen, and the only reason I know that is because I have just barely enough vision to see it. Voice over is set to start during that screen but it doesn't. I log into the system, which it's not supposed to ask me to do anyway because it's set to go directly to the desk top, and when I goes to the desk top, there is a box that since voice over won't come on either automatically or with command F5 I don't know what is going on. It will allow me to use VO M to access the apple menu to shut down properly, and then when I restart the computer the desktop pops up and all is well. What on earth is going on? Jenny -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to
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What if you don't want to log in, you just want it to go to the desk top? Jenny On May 1, 2012, at 3:31 PM, Jonathan C. Cohn wrote: You don't by any chance have file vault turned on do you? Go to system preferences: Find the Security and Privacy panel. In this panel is a tab called File Vault It should list your disk and tell you that file vault is turned off/ or on. You are aware that for non-file vault systems, you can configure the login screen to use voice over and that you can even toggle voice over on/off with command-F5 in the standard login screen? Best wishes, JOnathan Jonathan C. Cohn jonc...@cox.net On May 1, 2012, at 4:22 PM, Jenny Keller wrote: I know it would be a good thing to have an apple store look at it, but the store is an hour away so I don't see that as an option. I have had someone look at it and it's just the log in screen. I log in and it still won't talk. I'll see what I can do, but if I can't get someone to take me to have surgery in another town, I doubt very seriously I can get someone to take me to fix my computer. Thanks for the info though. Jenny On May 1, 2012, at 3:19 PM, Jonathan C. Cohn wrote: If you think it is a problem that could be fixed at the Apple Store, then I suggest you beg one of your friends to take you there. You have a one year warranty on the computer and if you didn't drop it or spill water on it, then 99/100 times it will be fixed for free at the Apple store in the first year of service. So you might be saving several hundred dollars if you get there before June. On the other hand, just getting somebody around who can see what is going on with your system at start-up might be all you need. Though in some cases, hitting control-tab after a couple minutes gets things in a normal state. Best regards, Jonathan Jonathan C. Cohn jonc...@cox.net On May 1, 2012, at 12:33 PM, Jenny Keller wrote: Oh boy, that's not in my budget. I guess I'll just have to deal with it. I have a monitor and mouse connected to it so that isn't the problem. I just got it last June, so I don't know what the deal is. I'll just have to deal with it as I've said cause I can't afford to go to the town where the apple store is, and sure can't afford to pay for them to look at it, uch less fix it. Crap. Jenny On May 1, 2012, at 10:57 AM, Steve Holmes wrote: You will probably not like my answer; I never get that problem on my Mac Mini. Even back when I first got my Mini and did not have a monitor connected, VO wouldn't start automatically after I logged in but I got the same behavior every time I started my machine. One thing different with my setup from yours is I intentionally have my machine set to require a login each time. I also have VO enabled for the login screen. After I hooked up a cheap monitor,VO starts up properly every time and since I have Terminal set as one of the apps to be started at login time, I have consistent focus to the desktop. All that is fine here. If your machine keeps doing this on a repeated basis, you ot to take it into the Apple store (if possible) and have a genius take a look at it; wonder if there is a hardware issue or something. I remember you asking this question some time ago but I didn't recall anyone answering it either. On 5/1/12, Jenny Keller jlperd...@gmail.com wrote: Every other time I turn on my computer I get the log in screen, and the only reason I know that is because I have just barely enough vision to see it. Voice over is set to start during that screen but it doesn't. I log into the system, which it's not supposed to ask me to do anyway because it's set to go directly to the desk top, and when I goes to the desk top, there is a box that since voice over won't come on either automatically or with command F5 I don't know what is going on. It will allow me to use VO M to access the apple menu to shut down properly, and then when I restart the computer the desktop pops up and all is well. What on earth is going on? Jenny -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to
Re: voiceover won't cooperate
You can do it either way. Look around the User options under System preferences. I forget what the option is called exactly but there is something to specify to Automatically login. But in case this keeps acting up on you, you may want to check the VoiceOver at login option also. I mentioned this in my last message but you may not have seen that one yet. Oh, if I had that much transportation trouble, I'd give my home teachers a call (LDS right?) If they have the time and are any good at all, they should be able to help you out or refer someone to help you out. that's one beauty of our church. On 5/1/12, Jenny Keller jlperd...@gmail.com wrote: What if you don't want to log in, you just want it to go to the desk top? Jenny On May 1, 2012, at 3:31 PM, Jonathan C. Cohn wrote: You don't by any chance have file vault turned on do you? Go to system preferences: Find the Security and Privacy panel. In this panel is a tab called File Vault It should list your disk and tell you that file vault is turned off/ or on. You are aware that for non-file vault systems, you can configure the login screen to use voice over and that you can even toggle voice over on/off with command-F5 in the standard login screen? Best wishes, JOnathan Jonathan C. Cohn jonc...@cox.net On May 1, 2012, at 4:22 PM, Jenny Keller wrote: I know it would be a good thing to have an apple store look at it, but the store is an hour away so I don't see that as an option. I have had someone look at it and it's just the log in screen. I log in and it still won't talk. I'll see what I can do, but if I can't get someone to take me to have surgery in another town, I doubt very seriously I can get someone to take me to fix my computer. Thanks for the info though. Jenny On May 1, 2012, at 3:19 PM, Jonathan C. Cohn wrote: If you think it is a problem that could be fixed at the Apple Store, then I suggest you beg one of your friends to take you there. You have a one year warranty on the computer and if you didn't drop it or spill water on it, then 99/100 times it will be fixed for free at the Apple store in the first year of service. So you might be saving several hundred dollars if you get there before June. On the other hand, just getting somebody around who can see what is going on with your system at start-up might be all you need. Though in some cases, hitting control-tab after a couple minutes gets things in a normal state. Best regards, Jonathan Jonathan C. Cohn jonc...@cox.net On May 1, 2012, at 12:33 PM, Jenny Keller wrote: Oh boy, that's not in my budget. I guess I'll just have to deal with it. I have a monitor and mouse connected to it so that isn't the problem. I just got it last June, so I don't know what the deal is. I'll just have to deal with it as I've said cause I can't afford to go to the town where the apple store is, and sure can't afford to pay for them to look at it, uch less fix it. Crap. Jenny On May 1, 2012, at 10:57 AM, Steve Holmes wrote: You will probably not like my answer; I never get that problem on my Mac Mini. Even back when I first got my Mini and did not have a monitor connected, VO wouldn't start automatically after I logged in but I got the same behavior every time I started my machine. One thing different with my setup from yours is I intentionally have my machine set to require a login each time. I also have VO enabled for the login screen. After I hooked up a cheap monitor,VO starts up properly every time and since I have Terminal set as one of the apps to be started at login time, I have consistent focus to the desktop. All that is fine here. If your machine keeps doing this on a repeated basis, you ot to take it into the Apple store (if possible) and have a genius take a look at it; wonder if there is a hardware issue or something. I remember you asking this question some time ago but I didn't recall anyone answering it either. On 5/1/12, Jenny Keller jlperd...@gmail.com wrote: Every other time I turn on my computer I get the log in screen, and the only reason I know that is because I have just barely enough vision to see it. Voice over is set to start during that screen but it doesn't. I log into the system, which it's not supposed to ask me to do anyway because it's set to go directly to the desk top, and when I goes to the desk top, there is a box that since voice over won't come on either automatically or with command F5 I don't know what is going on. It will allow me to use VO M to access the apple menu to shut down properly, and then when I restart the computer the desktop pops up and all is well. What on earth is going on? Jenny -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
RE: voiceover won't cooperate
Hello Jenny, Admittedly, I have not been paying close attention to this thread so forgive me for suggesting something that has already been posted but, have you considered turning off the login screen? All things being equal and security concerns aside, if you are the only user, there really is no reason to have it activated at startup. Mark -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jenny Keller Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 1:23 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: voiceover won't cooperate I know it would be a good thing to have an apple store look at it, but the store is an hour away so I don't see that as an option. I have had someone look at it and it's just the log in screen. I log in and it still won't talk. I'll see what I can do, but if I can't get someone to take me to have surgery in another town, I doubt very seriously I can get someone to take me to fix my computer. Thanks for the info though. Jenny On May 1, 2012, at 3:19 PM, Jonathan C. Cohn wrote: If you think it is a problem that could be fixed at the Apple Store, then I suggest you beg one of your friends to take you there. You have a one year warranty on the computer and if you didn't drop it or spill water on it, then 99/100 times it will be fixed for free at the Apple store in the first year of service. So you might be saving several hundred dollars if you get there before June. On the other hand, just getting somebody around who can see what is going on with your system at start-up might be all you need. Though in some cases, hitting control-tab after a couple minutes gets things in a normal state. Best regards, Jonathan Jonathan C. Cohn jonc...@cox.net On May 1, 2012, at 12:33 PM, Jenny Keller wrote: Oh boy, that's not in my budget. I guess I'll just have to deal with it. I have a monitor and mouse connected to it so that isn't the problem. I just got it last June, so I don't know what the deal is. I'll just have to deal with it as I've said cause I can't afford to go to the town where the apple store is, and sure can't afford to pay for them to look at it, uch less fix it. Crap. Jenny On May 1, 2012, at 10:57 AM, Steve Holmes wrote: You will probably not like my answer; I never get that problem on my Mac Mini. Even back when I first got my Mini and did not have a monitor connected, VO wouldn't start automatically after I logged in but I got the same behavior every time I started my machine. One thing different with my setup from yours is I intentionally have my machine set to require a login each time. I also have VO enabled for the login screen. After I hooked up a cheap monitor,VO starts up properly every time and since I have Terminal set as one of the apps to be started at login time, I have consistent focus to the desktop. All that is fine here. If your machine keeps doing this on a repeated basis, you ot to take it into the Apple store (if possible) and have a genius take a look at it; wonder if there is a hardware issue or something. I remember you asking this question some time ago but I didn't recall anyone answering it either. On 5/1/12, Jenny Keller jlperd...@gmail.com wrote: Every other time I turn on my computer I get the log in screen, and the only reason I know that is because I have just barely enough vision to see it. Voice over is set to start during that screen but it doesn't. I log into the system, which it's not supposed to ask me to do anyway because it's set to go directly to the desk top, and when I goes to the desk top, there is a box that since voice over won't come on either automatically or with command F5 I don't know what is going on. It will allow me to use VO M to access the apple menu to shut down properly, and then when I restart the computer the desktop pops up and all is well. What on earth is going on? Jenny -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr
Re: voiceover won't cooperate
you know i could be having that problem and not even know it because i rarely shut my macbook down. i hardly ever did with my leopard machine and rarely do it in the lion. i just close the lid. when i open it it comes right out of sleep mode. sorry i couldn't help. take care, max On May 1, 2012, at 2:15 PM, Jenny Keller wrote: thanks, I tried to get help from them, but they can't help me if it's not doing it and I can't make it do it on command. It is a random thing every two or three times I turn the computer on. thanks though. I've just learned to deal with it. Jenny On May 1, 2012, at 1:07 PM, Maxwell Ivey wrote: hi there; i understand about not being able to make the trip, but most of the times we took my last computer in they didn't even charge me. there is a new 800 number for voiceover issues. i don't have it on hand, but someone on the list can give it to you. perhaps they could help you trouble shoot this. take care, max On May 1, 2012, at 11:33 AM, Jenny Keller wrote: Oh boy, that's not in my budget. I guess I'll just have to deal with it. I have a monitor and mouse connected to it so that isn't the problem. I just got it last June, so I don't know what the deal is. I'll just have to deal with it as I've said cause I can't afford to go to the town where the apple store is, and sure can't afford to pay for them to look at it, uch less fix it. Crap. Jenny On May 1, 2012, at 10:57 AM, Steve Holmes wrote: You will probably not like my answer; I never get that problem on my Mac Mini. Even back when I first got my Mini and did not have a monitor connected, VO wouldn't start automatically after I logged in but I got the same behavior every time I started my machine. One thing different with my setup from yours is I intentionally have my machine set to require a login each time. I also have VO enabled for the login screen. After I hooked up a cheap monitor,VO starts up properly every time and since I have Terminal set as one of the apps to be started at login time, I have consistent focus to the desktop. All that is fine here. If your machine keeps doing this on a repeated basis, you ot to take it into the Apple store (if possible) and have a genius take a look at it; wonder if there is a hardware issue or something. I remember you asking this question some time ago but I didn't recall anyone answering it either. On 5/1/12, Jenny Keller jlperd...@gmail.com wrote: Every other time I turn on my computer I get the log in screen, and the only reason I know that is because I have just barely enough vision to see it. Voice over is set to start during that screen but it doesn't. I log into the system, which it's not supposed to ask me to do anyway because it's set to go directly to the desk top, and when I goes to the desk top, there is a box that since voice over won't come on either automatically or with command F5 I don't know what is going on. It will allow me to use VO M to access the apple menu to shut down properly, and then when I restart the computer the desktop pops up and all is well. What on earth is going on? Jenny -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at
