Re: Reducing the backup size on icloud.

[KliphnShari Miller]

Sure did.  Ended up calling apple support.  I guess this is a known problem, 
they fixed it and all is good!  Thanks for the help


> On May 16, 2019, at 9:25 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Have you emptied your Trash lately?
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On May 15, 2019, at 17:53, KliphnShari Miller  > wrote:
> 
> Done,, all devices report the same numbers.  41GB used, but 21gb for iCloud 
> photo library, backups 3gb, documents 2.gb, and the rest is so small, I know 
> it doesn’t account for the rest.
> 
> 
>> On May 15, 2019, at 2:21 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Not that most documents should make that big of a difference, but take a 
>> look at the iCloud usage on your other devices signed into the same Apple 
>> ID.  Things like iPhones, iPads, various Macs etc.  When you look at the 
>> usage on one device, it doesn't always report all the app data usage of 
>> other devices.  For example, if you had Pages syncing to iCloud on your Mac 
>> in the past, but not on your iPad, when you go to iCloud Storage on your 
>> iPad, Pages will not be listed.  The Mac or iCloud.com  
>> has the most accurate information.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On May 15, 2019, at 11:17, KliphnShari Miller > > wrote:
>> 
>> I do use family sharing, but not with the storage plan
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 15, 2019, at 9:54 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Do you use Family sharing at all?  If so, others in your family will use up 
>>> space that is not noted there.  If not, I will dig deeper.
>>> 
>>> Later...
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Apple Teacher
>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
>>> On May 15, 2019, at 07:59, KliphnShari Miller >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Well, in iCloud settings, it tells me 41GB is being used, but my iCloud 
>>> photo library only taking up 21GB, and documents taking up 5gb, and I have 
>>> deleted all backups.  So where is the rest, messages and mail don’t even 
>>> equal a GB.
>>> 
 On May 15, 2019, at 8:47 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
 mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
 wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 Where are you getting the two different measures from?
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Apple Teacher
 (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On May 15, 2019, at 06:06, KliphnShari Miller >>> > wrote:
 
 My question is a little different.  The stuff in my iCloud Drive, doesn’t 
 equal the amount of storage being used.  So I have about 27GB that is 
 being calculated, but it still says I am using 42gb, how can I fix this?
 
 
> On May 12, 2019, at 9:43 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>  > wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Your iPhone does not backup specifically by app.  The iPhone doesn't even 
> backup the Apple apps that are stock to the iPhone.  During the backup 
> process, the layout of the iPhone screens is saved, markers for each app 
> are recorded, settings are saved, and some local data and media that is 
> not already kept in iCloud is saved.  Subsequent backups only record 
> changes which all keeps the backup quite small in comparison to what's 
> actually on your iPhone.  When you delete specific apps, their data is 
> removed from the iPhone, but not necessarily from the iCloud storage 
> location.  To save space, you can delete any old iOS device backups 
> totally, you could tell iCloud not to save data for certain apps in 
> iCloud itself, and/or even delete the backup for your current device and 
> start from scratch.  The 5 GB free storage amount is usually fine for 
> straight backups but when you start including photos, multiple device 
> backups, multiple app syncing etc, you're going to run out quite quickly 
> and no real tweaking will fix that unless you get rid of much of the 
> iCloud media like photos or documents.  Most sync data and settings are 
> not sizeable enough to make that much of a difference.  The next plan 
> that's about $1 a month usually fixes all storage problems by giving you 
> 50 GB storage instead of the free five.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On May 12, 2019, at 03:25, Ramy Moustafa  > wrote:
> 
> Very 

Re: Reducing the backup size on icloud.

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

Have you emptied your Trash lately?

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On May 15, 2019, at 17:53, KliphnShari Miller  wrote:

Done,, all devices report the same numbers.  41GB used, but 21gb for iCloud 
photo library, backups 3gb, documents 2.gb, and the rest is so small, I know it 
doesn’t account for the rest.


> On May 15, 2019, at 2:21 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Not that most documents should make that big of a difference, but take a look 
> at the iCloud usage on your other devices signed into the same Apple ID.  
> Things like iPhones, iPads, various Macs etc.  When you look at the usage on 
> one device, it doesn't always report all the app data usage of other devices. 
>  For example, if you had Pages syncing to iCloud on your Mac in the past, but 
> not on your iPad, when you go to iCloud Storage on your iPad, Pages will not 
> be listed.  The Mac or iCloud.com  has the most accurate 
> information.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On May 15, 2019, at 11:17, KliphnShari Miller  > wrote:
> 
> I do use family sharing, but not with the storage plan
> 
> 
>> On May 15, 2019, at 9:54 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Do you use Family sharing at all?  If so, others in your family will use up 
>> space that is not noted there.  If not, I will dig deeper.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On May 15, 2019, at 07:59, KliphnShari Miller > > wrote:
>> 
>> Well, in iCloud settings, it tells me 41GB is being used, but my iCloud 
>> photo library only taking up 21GB, and documents taking up 5gb, and I have 
>> deleted all backups.  So where is the rest, messages and mail don’t even 
>> equal a GB.
>> 
>>> On May 15, 2019, at 8:47 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Where are you getting the two different measures from?
>>> 
>>> Later...
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Apple Teacher
>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
>>> On May 15, 2019, at 06:06, KliphnShari Miller >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> My question is a little different.  The stuff in my iCloud Drive, doesn’t 
>>> equal the amount of storage being used.  So I have about 27GB that is being 
>>> calculated, but it still says I am using 42gb, how can I fix this?
>>> 
>>> 
 On May 12, 2019, at 9:43 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
 mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
 wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 Your iPhone does not backup specifically by app.  The iPhone doesn't even 
 backup the Apple apps that are stock to the iPhone.  During the backup 
 process, the layout of the iPhone screens is saved, markers for each app 
 are recorded, settings are saved, and some local data and media that is 
 not already kept in iCloud is saved.  Subsequent backups only record 
 changes which all keeps the backup quite small in comparison to what's 
 actually on your iPhone.  When you delete specific apps, their data is 
 removed from the iPhone, but not necessarily from the iCloud storage 
 location.  To save space, you can delete any old iOS device backups 
 totally, you could tell iCloud not to save data for certain apps in iCloud 
 itself, and/or even delete the backup for your current device and start 
 from scratch.  The 5 GB free storage amount is usually fine for straight 
 backups but when you start including photos, multiple device backups, 
 multiple app syncing etc, you're going to run out quite quickly and no 
 real tweaking will fix that unless you get rid of much of the iCloud media 
 like photos or documents.  Most sync data and settings are not sizeable 
 enough to make that much of a difference.  The next plan that's about $1 a 
 month usually fixes all storage problems by giving you 50 GB storage 
 instead of the free five.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Apple Teacher
 (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On May 12, 2019, at 03:25, Ramy Moustafa >>> > wrote:
 
 Very urgent plz
 
 Ramy moustafa saber
 licturer at:
 faculty of musical education
 music arranger and sound engineer
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On May 10, 2019, at 4:23 PM, Ramy Moustafa  > wrote:
> 
> Hi all:
> I need to reduce my iphone backup, because my free storage is almost full.
> I went to the manage 

Re: Reducing the backup size on icloud.

[KliphnShari Miller]

Done,, all devices report the same numbers.  41GB used, but 21gb for iCloud 
photo library, backups 3gb, documents 2.gb, and the rest is so small, I know it 
doesn’t account for the rest.


> On May 15, 2019, at 2:21 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Not that most documents should make that big of a difference, but take a look 
> at the iCloud usage on your other devices signed into the same Apple ID.  
> Things like iPhones, iPads, various Macs etc.  When you look at the usage on 
> one device, it doesn't always report all the app data usage of other devices. 
>  For example, if you had Pages syncing to iCloud on your Mac in the past, but 
> not on your iPad, when you go to iCloud Storage on your iPad, Pages will not 
> be listed.  The Mac or iCloud.com  has the most accurate 
> information.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On May 15, 2019, at 11:17, KliphnShari Miller  > wrote:
> 
> I do use family sharing, but not with the storage plan
> 
> 
>> On May 15, 2019, at 9:54 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Do you use Family sharing at all?  If so, others in your family will use up 
>> space that is not noted there.  If not, I will dig deeper.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On May 15, 2019, at 07:59, KliphnShari Miller > > wrote:
>> 
>> Well, in iCloud settings, it tells me 41GB is being used, but my iCloud 
>> photo library only taking up 21GB, and documents taking up 5gb, and I have 
>> deleted all backups.  So where is the rest, messages and mail don’t even 
>> equal a GB.
>> 
>>> On May 15, 2019, at 8:47 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Where are you getting the two different measures from?
>>> 
>>> Later...
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Apple Teacher
>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
>>> On May 15, 2019, at 06:06, KliphnShari Miller >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> My question is a little different.  The stuff in my iCloud Drive, doesn’t 
>>> equal the amount of storage being used.  So I have about 27GB that is being 
>>> calculated, but it still says I am using 42gb, how can I fix this?
>>> 
>>> 
 On May 12, 2019, at 9:43 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
 mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
 wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 Your iPhone does not backup specifically by app.  The iPhone doesn't even 
 backup the Apple apps that are stock to the iPhone.  During the backup 
 process, the layout of the iPhone screens is saved, markers for each app 
 are recorded, settings are saved, and some local data and media that is 
 not already kept in iCloud is saved.  Subsequent backups only record 
 changes which all keeps the backup quite small in comparison to what's 
 actually on your iPhone.  When you delete specific apps, their data is 
 removed from the iPhone, but not necessarily from the iCloud storage 
 location.  To save space, you can delete any old iOS device backups 
 totally, you could tell iCloud not to save data for certain apps in iCloud 
 itself, and/or even delete the backup for your current device and start 
 from scratch.  The 5 GB free storage amount is usually fine for straight 
 backups but when you start including photos, multiple device backups, 
 multiple app syncing etc, you're going to run out quite quickly and no 
 real tweaking will fix that unless you get rid of much of the iCloud media 
 like photos or documents.  Most sync data and settings are not sizeable 
 enough to make that much of a difference.  The next plan that's about $1 a 
 month usually fixes all storage problems by giving you 50 GB storage 
 instead of the free five.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Apple Teacher
 (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On May 12, 2019, at 03:25, Ramy Moustafa >>> > wrote:
 
 Very urgent plz
 
 Ramy moustafa saber
 licturer at:
 faculty of musical education
 music arranger and sound engineer
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On May 10, 2019, at 4:23 PM, Ramy Moustafa  > wrote:
> 
> Hi all:
> I need to reduce my iphone backup, because my free storage is almost full.
> I went to the manage storage, backups, I choose the app thas t i don't 
> want it to be backup, i tern it off, and it asked me to remove the data, 
> i hit ok.
> the backup now for this app is off, but it still took the same space like 
> before.

Re: Reducing the backup size on icloud.

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

Not that most documents should make that big of a difference, but take a look 
at the iCloud usage on your other devices signed into the same Apple ID.  
Things like iPhones, iPads, various Macs etc.  When you look at the usage on 
one device, it doesn't always report all the app data usage of other devices.  
For example, if you had Pages syncing to iCloud on your Mac in the past, but 
not on your iPad, when you go to iCloud Storage on your iPad, Pages will not be 
listed.  The Mac or iCloud.com  has the most accurate 
information.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On May 15, 2019, at 11:17, KliphnShari Miller  wrote:

I do use family sharing, but not with the storage plan


> On May 15, 2019, at 9:54 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Do you use Family sharing at all?  If so, others in your family will use up 
> space that is not noted there.  If not, I will dig deeper.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On May 15, 2019, at 07:59, KliphnShari Miller  > wrote:
> 
> Well, in iCloud settings, it tells me 41GB is being used, but my iCloud photo 
> library only taking up 21GB, and documents taking up 5gb, and I have deleted 
> all backups.  So where is the rest, messages and mail don’t even equal a GB.
> 
>> On May 15, 2019, at 8:47 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Where are you getting the two different measures from?
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On May 15, 2019, at 06:06, KliphnShari Miller > > wrote:
>> 
>> My question is a little different.  The stuff in my iCloud Drive, doesn’t 
>> equal the amount of storage being used.  So I have about 27GB that is being 
>> calculated, but it still says I am using 42gb, how can I fix this?
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 12, 2019, at 9:43 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Your iPhone does not backup specifically by app.  The iPhone doesn't even 
>>> backup the Apple apps that are stock to the iPhone.  During the backup 
>>> process, the layout of the iPhone screens is saved, markers for each app 
>>> are recorded, settings are saved, and some local data and media that is not 
>>> already kept in iCloud is saved.  Subsequent backups only record changes 
>>> which all keeps the backup quite small in comparison to what's actually on 
>>> your iPhone.  When you delete specific apps, their data is removed from the 
>>> iPhone, but not necessarily from the iCloud storage location.  To save 
>>> space, you can delete any old iOS device backups totally, you could tell 
>>> iCloud not to save data for certain apps in iCloud itself, and/or even 
>>> delete the backup for your current device and start from scratch.  The 5 GB 
>>> free storage amount is usually fine for straight backups but when you start 
>>> including photos, multiple device backups, multiple app syncing etc, you're 
>>> going to run out quite quickly and no real tweaking will fix that unless 
>>> you get rid of much of the iCloud media like photos or documents.  Most 
>>> sync data and settings are not sizeable enough to make that much of a 
>>> difference.  The next plan that's about $1 a month usually fixes all 
>>> storage problems by giving you 50 GB storage instead of the free five.
>>> 
>>> Later...
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Apple Teacher
>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
>>> On May 12, 2019, at 03:25, Ramy Moustafa >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Very urgent plz
>>> 
>>> Ramy moustafa saber
>>> licturer at:
>>> faculty of musical education
>>> music arranger and sound engineer
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On May 10, 2019, at 4:23 PM, Ramy Moustafa >>> > wrote:
 
 Hi all:
 I need to reduce my iphone backup, because my free storage is almost full.
 I went to the manage storage, backups, I choose the app thas t i don't 
 want it to be backup, i tern it off, and it asked me to remove the data, i 
 hit ok.
 the backup now for this app is off, but it still took the same space like 
 before.
 is this a bug or how can i delete the backup for this app?
 Ramy moustafa saber
 licturer at:
 faculty of musical education
 music arranger and sound engineer
 Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
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>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
>>> Visionaries list.
>>> 
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Re: Reducing the backup size on icloud.

[KliphnShari Miller]

I do use family sharing, but not with the storage plan


> On May 15, 2019, at 9:54 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Do you use Family sharing at all?  If so, others in your family will use up 
> space that is not noted there.  If not, I will dig deeper.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On May 15, 2019, at 07:59, KliphnShari Miller  > wrote:
> 
> Well, in iCloud settings, it tells me 41GB is being used, but my iCloud photo 
> library only taking up 21GB, and documents taking up 5gb, and I have deleted 
> all backups.  So where is the rest, messages and mail don’t even equal a GB.
> 
>> On May 15, 2019, at 8:47 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Where are you getting the two different measures from?
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On May 15, 2019, at 06:06, KliphnShari Miller > > wrote:
>> 
>> My question is a little different.  The stuff in my iCloud Drive, doesn’t 
>> equal the amount of storage being used.  So I have about 27GB that is being 
>> calculated, but it still says I am using 42gb, how can I fix this?
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 12, 2019, at 9:43 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Your iPhone does not backup specifically by app.  The iPhone doesn't even 
>>> backup the Apple apps that are stock to the iPhone.  During the backup 
>>> process, the layout of the iPhone screens is saved, markers for each app 
>>> are recorded, settings are saved, and some local data and media that is not 
>>> already kept in iCloud is saved.  Subsequent backups only record changes 
>>> which all keeps the backup quite small in comparison to what's actually on 
>>> your iPhone.  When you delete specific apps, their data is removed from the 
>>> iPhone, but not necessarily from the iCloud storage location.  To save 
>>> space, you can delete any old iOS device backups totally, you could tell 
>>> iCloud not to save data for certain apps in iCloud itself, and/or even 
>>> delete the backup for your current device and start from scratch.  The 5 GB 
>>> free storage amount is usually fine for straight backups but when you start 
>>> including photos, multiple device backups, multiple app syncing etc, you're 
>>> going to run out quite quickly and no real tweaking will fix that unless 
>>> you get rid of much of the iCloud media like photos or documents.  Most 
>>> sync data and settings are not sizeable enough to make that much of a 
>>> difference.  The next plan that's about $1 a month usually fixes all 
>>> storage problems by giving you 50 GB storage instead of the free five.
>>> 
>>> Later...
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Apple Teacher
>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
>>> On May 12, 2019, at 03:25, Ramy Moustafa >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Very urgent plz
>>> 
>>> Ramy moustafa saber
>>> licturer at:
>>> faculty of musical education
>>> music arranger and sound engineer
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On May 10, 2019, at 4:23 PM, Ramy Moustafa >>> > wrote:
 
 Hi all:
 I need to reduce my iphone backup, because my free storage is almost full.
 I went to the manage storage, backups, I choose the app thas t i don't 
 want it to be backup, i tern it off, and it asked me to remove the data, i 
 hit ok.
 the backup now for this app is off, but it still took the same space like 
 before.
 is this a bug or how can i delete the backup for this app?
 Ramy moustafa saber
 licturer at:
 faculty of musical education
 music arranger and sound engineer
 Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
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Re: Reducing the backup size on icloud.

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

Do you use Family sharing at all?  If so, others in your family will use up 
space that is not noted there.  If not, I will dig deeper.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On May 15, 2019, at 07:59, KliphnShari Miller  wrote:

Well, in iCloud settings, it tells me 41GB is being used, but my iCloud photo 
library only taking up 21GB, and documents taking up 5gb, and I have deleted 
all backups.  So where is the rest, messages and mail don’t even equal a GB.

> On May 15, 2019, at 8:47 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Where are you getting the two different measures from?
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On May 15, 2019, at 06:06, KliphnShari Miller  > wrote:
> 
> My question is a little different.  The stuff in my iCloud Drive, doesn’t 
> equal the amount of storage being used.  So I have about 27GB that is being 
> calculated, but it still says I am using 42gb, how can I fix this?
> 
> 
>> On May 12, 2019, at 9:43 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Your iPhone does not backup specifically by app.  The iPhone doesn't even 
>> backup the Apple apps that are stock to the iPhone.  During the backup 
>> process, the layout of the iPhone screens is saved, markers for each app are 
>> recorded, settings are saved, and some local data and media that is not 
>> already kept in iCloud is saved.  Subsequent backups only record changes 
>> which all keeps the backup quite small in comparison to what's actually on 
>> your iPhone.  When you delete specific apps, their data is removed from the 
>> iPhone, but not necessarily from the iCloud storage location.  To save 
>> space, you can delete any old iOS device backups totally, you could tell 
>> iCloud not to save data for certain apps in iCloud itself, and/or even 
>> delete the backup for your current device and start from scratch.  The 5 GB 
>> free storage amount is usually fine for straight backups but when you start 
>> including photos, multiple device backups, multiple app syncing etc, you're 
>> going to run out quite quickly and no real tweaking will fix that unless you 
>> get rid of much of the iCloud media like photos or documents.  Most sync 
>> data and settings are not sizeable enough to make that much of a difference. 
>>  The next plan that's about $1 a month usually fixes all storage problems by 
>> giving you 50 GB storage instead of the free five.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On May 12, 2019, at 03:25, Ramy Moustafa > > wrote:
>> 
>> Very urgent plz
>> 
>> Ramy moustafa saber
>> licturer at:
>> faculty of musical education
>> music arranger and sound engineer
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On May 10, 2019, at 4:23 PM, Ramy Moustafa >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all:
>>> I need to reduce my iphone backup, because my free storage is almost full.
>>> I went to the manage storage, backups, I choose the app thas t i don't want 
>>> it to be backup, i tern it off, and it asked me to remove the data, i hit 
>>> ok.
>>> the backup now for this app is off, but it still took the same space like 
>>> before.
>>> is this a bug or how can i delete the backup for this app?
>>> Ramy moustafa saber
>>> licturer at:
>>> faculty of musical education
>>> music arranger and sound engineer
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Reducing the backup size on icloud.

[KliphnShari Miller]

Well, in iCloud settings, it tells me 41GB is being used, but my iCloud photo 
library only taking up 21GB, and documents taking up 5gb, and I have deleted 
all backups.  So where is the rest, messages and mail don’t even equal a GB.

> On May 15, 2019, at 8:47 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Where are you getting the two different measures from?
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On May 15, 2019, at 06:06, KliphnShari Miller  > wrote:
> 
> My question is a little different.  The stuff in my iCloud Drive, doesn’t 
> equal the amount of storage being used.  So I have about 27GB that is being 
> calculated, but it still says I am using 42gb, how can I fix this?
> 
> 
>> On May 12, 2019, at 9:43 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Your iPhone does not backup specifically by app.  The iPhone doesn't even 
>> backup the Apple apps that are stock to the iPhone.  During the backup 
>> process, the layout of the iPhone screens is saved, markers for each app are 
>> recorded, settings are saved, and some local data and media that is not 
>> already kept in iCloud is saved.  Subsequent backups only record changes 
>> which all keeps the backup quite small in comparison to what's actually on 
>> your iPhone.  When you delete specific apps, their data is removed from the 
>> iPhone, but not necessarily from the iCloud storage location.  To save 
>> space, you can delete any old iOS device backups totally, you could tell 
>> iCloud not to save data for certain apps in iCloud itself, and/or even 
>> delete the backup for your current device and start from scratch.  The 5 GB 
>> free storage amount is usually fine for straight backups but when you start 
>> including photos, multiple device backups, multiple app syncing etc, you're 
>> going to run out quite quickly and no real tweaking will fix that unless you 
>> get rid of much of the iCloud media like photos or documents.  Most sync 
>> data and settings are not sizeable enough to make that much of a difference. 
>>  The next plan that's about $1 a month usually fixes all storage problems by 
>> giving you 50 GB storage instead of the free five.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On May 12, 2019, at 03:25, Ramy Moustafa > > wrote:
>> 
>> Very urgent plz
>> 
>> Ramy moustafa saber
>> licturer at:
>> faculty of musical education
>> music arranger and sound engineer
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On May 10, 2019, at 4:23 PM, Ramy Moustafa >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all:
>>> I need to reduce my iphone backup, because my free storage is almost full.
>>> I went to the manage storage, backups, I choose the app thas t i don't want 
>>> it to be backup, i tern it off, and it asked me to remove the data, i hit 
>>> ok.
>>> the backup now for this app is off, but it still took the same space like 
>>> before.
>>> is this a bug or how can i delete the backup for this app?
>>> Ramy moustafa saber
>>> licturer at:
>>> faculty of musical education
>>> music arranger and sound engineer
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
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Re: Reducing the backup size on icloud.

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

Where are you getting the two different measures from?

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On May 15, 2019, at 06:06, KliphnShari Miller  wrote:

My question is a little different.  The stuff in my iCloud Drive, doesn’t equal 
the amount of storage being used.  So I have about 27GB that is being 
calculated, but it still says I am using 42gb, how can I fix this?


> On May 12, 2019, at 9:43 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Your iPhone does not backup specifically by app.  The iPhone doesn't even 
> backup the Apple apps that are stock to the iPhone.  During the backup 
> process, the layout of the iPhone screens is saved, markers for each app are 
> recorded, settings are saved, and some local data and media that is not 
> already kept in iCloud is saved.  Subsequent backups only record changes 
> which all keeps the backup quite small in comparison to what's actually on 
> your iPhone.  When you delete specific apps, their data is removed from the 
> iPhone, but not necessarily from the iCloud storage location.  To save space, 
> you can delete any old iOS device backups totally, you could tell iCloud not 
> to save data for certain apps in iCloud itself, and/or even delete the backup 
> for your current device and start from scratch.  The 5 GB free storage amount 
> is usually fine for straight backups but when you start including photos, 
> multiple device backups, multiple app syncing etc, you're going to run out 
> quite quickly and no real tweaking will fix that unless you get rid of much 
> of the iCloud media like photos or documents.  Most sync data and settings 
> are not sizeable enough to make that much of a difference.  The next plan 
> that's about $1 a month usually fixes all storage problems by giving you 50 
> GB storage instead of the free five.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On May 12, 2019, at 03:25, Ramy Moustafa  > wrote:
> 
> Very urgent plz
> 
> Ramy moustafa saber
> licturer at:
> faculty of musical education
> music arranger and sound engineer
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 10, 2019, at 4:23 PM, Ramy Moustafa > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all:
>> I need to reduce my iphone backup, because my free storage is almost full.
>> I went to the manage storage, backups, I choose the app thas t i don't want 
>> it to be backup, i tern it off, and it asked me to remove the data, i hit ok.
>> the backup now for this app is off, but it still took the same space like 
>> before.
>> is this a bug or how can i delete the backup for this app?
>> Ramy moustafa saber
>> licturer at:
>> faculty of musical education
>> music arranger and sound engineer
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Reducing the backup size on icloud.

[KliphnShari Miller]

My question is a little different.  The stuff in my iCloud Drive, doesn’t equal 
the amount of storage being used.  So I have about 27GB that is being 
calculated, but it still says I am using 42gb, how can I fix this?


> On May 12, 2019, at 9:43 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Your iPhone does not backup specifically by app.  The iPhone doesn't even 
> backup the Apple apps that are stock to the iPhone.  During the backup 
> process, the layout of the iPhone screens is saved, markers for each app are 
> recorded, settings are saved, and some local data and media that is not 
> already kept in iCloud is saved.  Subsequent backups only record changes 
> which all keeps the backup quite small in comparison to what's actually on 
> your iPhone.  When you delete specific apps, their data is removed from the 
> iPhone, but not necessarily from the iCloud storage location.  To save space, 
> you can delete any old iOS device backups totally, you could tell iCloud not 
> to save data for certain apps in iCloud itself, and/or even delete the backup 
> for your current device and start from scratch.  The 5 GB free storage amount 
> is usually fine for straight backups but when you start including photos, 
> multiple device backups, multiple app syncing etc, you're going to run out 
> quite quickly and no real tweaking will fix that unless you get rid of much 
> of the iCloud media like photos or documents.  Most sync data and settings 
> are not sizeable enough to make that much of a difference.  The next plan 
> that's about $1 a month usually fixes all storage problems by giving you 50 
> GB storage instead of the free five.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On May 12, 2019, at 03:25, Ramy Moustafa  > wrote:
> 
> Very urgent plz
> 
> Ramy moustafa saber
> licturer at:
> faculty of musical education
> music arranger and sound engineer
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 10, 2019, at 4:23 PM, Ramy Moustafa > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all:
>> I need to reduce my iphone backup, because my free storage is almost full.
>> I went to the manage storage, backups, I choose the app thas t i don't want 
>> it to be backup, i tern it off, and it asked me to remove the data, i hit ok.
>> the backup now for this app is off, but it still took the same space like 
>> before.
>> is this a bug or how can i delete the backup for this app?
>> Ramy moustafa saber
>> licturer at:
>> faculty of musical education
>> music arranger and sound engineer
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Reducing the backup size on icloud.

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

A few things to try.  Go into System Prefs on your Mac, and make sure that 
What's App is not checked.  Also, on your Mac, from the Finder, press 
cmd-shift-i to open the iCloud directory.  If there's a What's App folder 
there, throw its contents in the Trash.  You could also check What's App in the 
iPhone Settings area to see if you can turn off iCloud syncing from there.

Later...
  
Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On May 12, 2019, at 09:07, Ramy Moustafa  wrote:

Ok I deleted the old backups, and the only issue is whatsapp, am sure that the 
backup there is set to off, but it took a very big size, so how can i get read 
of it?

Ramy moustafa saber
licturer at:
faculty of musical education
music arranger and sound engineer
Sent from my iPhone

On May 12, 2019, at 4:43 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Your iPhone does not backup specifically by app.  The iPhone doesn't even 
> backup the Apple apps that are stock to the iPhone.  During the backup 
> process, the layout of the iPhone screens is saved, markers for each app are 
> recorded, settings are saved, and some local data and media that is not 
> already kept in iCloud is saved.  Subsequent backups only record changes 
> which all keeps the backup quite small in comparison to what's actually on 
> your iPhone.  When you delete specific apps, their data is removed from the 
> iPhone, but not necessarily from the iCloud storage location.  To save space, 
> you can delete any old iOS device backups totally, you could tell iCloud not 
> to save data for certain apps in iCloud itself, and/or even delete the backup 
> for your current device and start from scratch.  The 5 GB free storage amount 
> is usually fine for straight backups but when you start including photos, 
> multiple device backups, multiple app syncing etc, you're going to run out 
> quite quickly and no real tweaking will fix that unless you get rid of much 
> of the iCloud media like photos or documents.  Most sync data and settings 
> are not sizeable enough to make that much of a difference.  The next plan 
> that's about $1 a month usually fixes all storage problems by giving you 50 
> GB storage instead of the free five.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On May 12, 2019, at 03:25, Ramy Moustafa  > wrote:
> 
> Very urgent plz
> 
> Ramy moustafa saber
> licturer at:
> faculty of musical education
> music arranger and sound engineer
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 10, 2019, at 4:23 PM, Ramy Moustafa > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all:
>> I need to reduce my iphone backup, because my free storage is almost full.
>> I went to the manage storage, backups, I choose the app thas t i don't want 
>> it to be backup, i tern it off, and it asked me to remove the data, i hit ok.
>> the backup now for this app is off, but it still took the same space like 
>> before.
>> is this a bug or how can i delete the backup for this app?
>> Ramy moustafa saber
>> licturer at:
>> faculty of musical education
>> music arranger and sound engineer
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Reducing the backup size on icloud.

[Ramy Moustafa]

Ok I deleted the old backups, and the only issue is whatsapp, am sure that the 
backup there is set to off, but it took a very big size, so how can i get read 
of it?

Ramy moustafa saber
licturer at:
faculty of musical education
music arranger and sound engineer
Sent from my iPhone

> On May 12, 2019, at 4:43 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Your iPhone does not backup specifically by app.  The iPhone doesn't even 
> backup the Apple apps that are stock to the iPhone.  During the backup 
> process, the layout of the iPhone screens is saved, markers for each app are 
> recorded, settings are saved, and some local data and media that is not 
> already kept in iCloud is saved.  Subsequent backups only record changes 
> which all keeps the backup quite small in comparison to what's actually on 
> your iPhone.  When you delete specific apps, their data is removed from the 
> iPhone, but not necessarily from the iCloud storage location.  To save space, 
> you can delete any old iOS device backups totally, you could tell iCloud not 
> to save data for certain apps in iCloud itself, and/or even delete the backup 
> for your current device and start from scratch.  The 5 GB free storage amount 
> is usually fine for straight backups but when you start including photos, 
> multiple device backups, multiple app syncing etc, you're going to run out 
> quite quickly and no real tweaking will fix that unless you get rid of much 
> of the iCloud media like photos or documents.  Most sync data and settings 
> are not sizeable enough to make that much of a difference.  The next plan 
> that's about $1 a month usually fixes all storage problems by giving you 50 
> GB storage instead of the free five.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On May 12, 2019, at 03:25, Ramy Moustafa  wrote:
> 
> Very urgent plz
> 
> Ramy moustafa saber
> licturer at:
> faculty of musical education
> music arranger and sound engineer
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 10, 2019, at 4:23 PM, Ramy Moustafa  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all:
>> I need to reduce my iphone backup, because my free storage is almost full.
>> I went to the manage storage, backups, I choose the app thas t i don't want 
>> it to be backup, i tern it off, and it asked me to remove the data, i hit ok.
>> the backup now for this app is off, but it still took the same space like 
>> before.
>> is this a bug or how can i delete the backup for this app?
>> Ramy moustafa saber
>> licturer at:
>> faculty of musical education
>> music arranger and sound engineer
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Reducing the backup size on icloud.

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

Your iPhone does not backup specifically by app.  The iPhone doesn't even 
backup the Apple apps that are stock to the iPhone.  During the backup process, 
the layout of the iPhone screens is saved, markers for each app are recorded, 
settings are saved, and some local data and media that is not already kept in 
iCloud is saved.  Subsequent backups only record changes which all keeps the 
backup quite small in comparison to what's actually on your iPhone.  When you 
delete specific apps, their data is removed from the iPhone, but not 
necessarily from the iCloud storage location.  To save space, you can delete 
any old iOS device backups totally, you could tell iCloud not to save data for 
certain apps in iCloud itself, and/or even delete the backup for your current 
device and start from scratch.  The 5 GB free storage amount is usually fine 
for straight backups but when you start including photos, multiple device 
backups, multiple app syncing etc, you're going to run out quite quickly and no 
real tweaking will fix that unless you get rid of much of the iCloud media like 
photos or documents.  Most sync data and settings are not sizeable enough to 
make that much of a difference.  The next plan that's about $1 a month usually 
fixes all storage problems by giving you 50 GB storage instead of the free five.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On May 12, 2019, at 03:25, Ramy Moustafa  wrote:

Very urgent plz

Ramy moustafa saber
licturer at:
faculty of musical education
music arranger and sound engineer
Sent from my iPhone

> On May 10, 2019, at 4:23 PM, Ramy Moustafa  wrote:
> 
> Hi all:
> I need to reduce my iphone backup, because my free storage is almost full.
> I went to the manage storage, backups, I choose the app thas t i don't want 
> it to be backup, i tern it off, and it asked me to remove the data, i hit ok.
> the backup now for this app is off, but it still took the same space like 
> before.
> is this a bug or how can i delete the backup for this app?
> Ramy moustafa saber
> licturer at:
> faculty of musical education
> music arranger and sound engineer
> Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Reducing the backup size on icloud.

[Ramy Moustafa]

Very urgent plz

Ramy moustafa saber
licturer at:
faculty of musical education
music arranger and sound engineer
Sent from my iPhone

> On May 10, 2019, at 4:23 PM, Ramy Moustafa  wrote:
> 
> Hi all:
> I need to reduce my iphone backup, because my free storage is almost full.
> I went to the manage storage, backups, I choose the app thas t i don't want 
> it to be backup, i tern it off, and it asked me to remove the data, i hit ok.
> the backup now for this app is off, but it still took the same space like 
> before.
> is this a bug or how can i delete the backup for this app?
> Ramy moustafa saber
> licturer at:
> faculty of musical education
> music arranger and sound engineer
> Sent from my iPhone

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Reducing the backup size on icloud.

[Ramy Moustafa]

Hi all:
I need to reduce my iphone backup, because my free storage is almost full.
I went to the manage storage, backups, I choose the app thas t i don't want it 
to be backup, i tern it off, and it asked me to remove the data, i hit ok.
the backup now for this app is off, but it still took the same space like 
before.
is this a bug or how can i delete the backup for this app?
Ramy moustafa saber
licturer at:
faculty of musical education
music arranger and sound engineer
Sent from my iPhone

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