RE: Two factor authentication

[Simon A Fogarty]

Hi Petrus,

ANZ and kiwibank both use this
So a number of other nz company ys also use this type of thing so it is used a 
lot here.

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Petrus Tuerlings
Sent: Friday, 1 November 2019 9:16 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Two factor authentication

Ah, thanks. I’ve not come across this yet, but then I haven’t got a Facebook 
account or  Twitter or anything like that. I do have WhatsApp on my phone and 
even. Find that annoying. Suppose you could call me an anti social media person.


On 1/11/2019, at 07:55, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

Hi,

Two-Step Verification (2SV) is used by many sites like Google, FaceBook, Adobe 
and others whereby a six digit SMS message is sent to you that you need to 
enter.  It is very similar, but has some distinct differences.  Specifically, 
you need to have a mobile number where the 2SV code can be sent.  Google does 
have ways around this with Google Prompt, but most others do not.  There are a 
number of people, especially in Europe and parts of Asia who primarily use 
services where they do not have a specific phone number that is a part of the 
regular exchange system, so 2SV is sometimes a hurdle.  It is more secure than 
going without using any of these methods, but I find 2FA easier and less of an 
annoyance.

Later...


Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Jamf Certified Associate
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Oct 31, 2019, at 12:43, Petrus Tuerlings 
mailto:petrus.t...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I agree, 2 fa is easy and you don’t really need to deal with it that often, the 
worst thing about it is spelling it. So what is two step verification?


On 1/11/2019, at 02:32, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

Hi,

I find that 2FA is very easy to deal with.  You set it up once, and unless 
you're adding new devices, or accessing your Apple ID on numerous devices other 
than your own, it never asks for codes again.  2FA is different than Two-Step 
Verification which is more annoying.

Later...


Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Jamf Certified Associate
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Oct 30, 2019, at 23:04, Simon A Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Yeah I just set up a new iPad mini and when asked for that I said no as it 
annoys me rather than helps me.



From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On 
Behalf Of Petrus Tuerlings
Sent: Thursday, 31 October 2019 2:51 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Two factor authentication

I think it is still up to you whether you want to use it or not. i set mine up 
before I upgraded.
Sent from Petrus's iPhone



On 31/10/2019, at 14:31, Simon A Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

So is 2 factor auth now required with Catalina
Or is it still up to the user if they wish to use it?

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On 
Behalf Of Petrus Tuerlings
Sent: Thursday, 31 October 2019 2:17 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Two factor authentication

Well I did get a similar message to that, I got a notification to finish 
setting up two factor authentication on my Mac and I had to enter the Apple ID 
pass word again and then enter the security code that appeared on my iPhone.




On 27/10/2019, at 14:22, M. Taylor mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>> 
wrote:

Hello Petrus,

You ask a very good question the answer to which is, no.

Two-factor authentication is an account modification so once done, on any 
device, it is done for all devices.

>From now on, when you login to your account, you will be required to enter a 
>security code.

Sometimes after setting up 2-factor, you will receive a message on your Mac 
that you need to login to your account in order to take advantage of all 
features.

Should this happen, just login and if you are already logged-in, then log-out 
and then log back in.

Mark

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Petrus Tuerlings
Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2019 5:55 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Two factor authentication

Hi all,
I have a silly question. I just set up two factor authentication on my iPhone, 
I no I was a bit naughty leaving it this late. But do I need to do it on my Mac 
as well?
Thanks in advance,
Petrus
Sent from Petrus' MacBook

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Re: Two factor authentication

[Petrus Tuerlings]

Ah, thanks. I’ve not come across this yet, but then I haven’t got a Facebook 
account or  Twitter or anything like that. I do have WhatsApp on my phone and 
even. Find that annoying. Suppose you could call me an anti social media 
person.  

> On 1/11/2019, at 07:55, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Two-Step Verification (2SV) is used by many sites like Google, FaceBook, 
> Adobe and others whereby a six digit SMS message is sent to you that you need 
> to enter.  It is very similar, but has some distinct differences.  
> Specifically, you need to have a mobile number where the 2SV code can be 
> sent.  Google does have ways around this with Google Prompt, but most others 
> do not.  There are a number of people, especially in Europe and parts of Asia 
> who primarily use services where they do not have a specific phone number 
> that is a part of the regular exchange system, so 2SV is sometimes a hurdle.  
> It is more secure than going without using any of these methods, but I find 
> 2FA easier and less of an annoyance.
> 
> Later...
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Jamf Certified Associate
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Oct 31, 2019, at 12:43, Petrus Tuerlings  <mailto:petrus.t...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> I agree, 2 fa is easy and you don’t really need to deal with it that often, 
> the worst thing about it is spelling it. So what is two step verification? 
> 
>> On 1/11/2019, at 02:32, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I find that 2FA is very easy to deal with.  You set it up once, and unless 
>> you're adding new devices, or accessing your Apple ID on numerous devices 
>> other than your own, it never asks for codes again.  2FA is different than 
>> Two-Step Verification which is more annoying.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Jamf Certified Associate
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Oct 30, 2019, at 23:04, Simon A Fogarty > <mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Yeah I just set up a new iPad mini and when asked for that I said no as it 
>> annoys me rather than helps me.
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Petrus Tuerlings
>> Sent: Thursday, 31 October 2019 2:51 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: Re: Two factor authentication
>>  
>> I think it is still up to you whether you want to use it or not. i set mine 
>> up before I upgraded.
>> 
>> Sent from Petrus's iPhone
>> 
>> 
>> On 31/10/2019, at 14:31, Simon A Fogarty > <mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:
>> 
>>  
>> So is 2 factor auth now required with Catalina
>> Or is it still up to the user if they wish to use it?
>>  
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Petrus Tuerlings
>> Sent: Thursday, 31 October 2019 2:17 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: Re: Two factor authentication
>>  
>> Well I did get a similar message to that, I got a notification to finish 
>> setting up two factor authentication on my Mac and I had to enter the Apple 
>> ID pass word again and then enter the security code that appeared on my 
>> iPhone. 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 27/10/2019, at 14:22, M. Taylor mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>> 
>> wrote:
>>  
>> Hello Petrus,
>> 
>> You ask a very good question the answer to which is, no.  
>> 
>> Two-factor authentication is an account modification so once done, on any 
>> device, it is done for all devices.
>> 
>> From now on, when you login to your account, you will be required to enter a 
>> security code.
>> 
>> Sometimes after setting up 2-factor, you will receive a message on your Mac 
>> that you need to login to your account in order to take advantage of all 
>> features.
>> 
>> Should this happen, just login and if you are already logged-in, then 
>> log-out and then log back in.
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
>> [mailto:macv

Re: Two factor authentication

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

Two-Step Verification (2SV) is used by many sites like Google, FaceBook, Adobe 
and others whereby a six digit SMS message is sent to you that you need to 
enter.  It is very similar, but has some distinct differences.  Specifically, 
you need to have a mobile number where the 2SV code can be sent.  Google does 
have ways around this with Google Prompt, but most others do not.  There are a 
number of people, especially in Europe and parts of Asia who primarily use 
services where they do not have a specific phone number that is a part of the 
regular exchange system, so 2SV is sometimes a hurdle.  It is more secure than 
going without using any of these methods, but I find 2FA easier and less of an 
annoyance.

Later...


Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Jamf Certified Associate
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Oct 31, 2019, at 12:43, Petrus Tuerlings  wrote:

I agree, 2 fa is easy and you don’t really need to deal with it that often, the 
worst thing about it is spelling it. So what is two step verification? 

> On 1/11/2019, at 02:32, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I find that 2FA is very easy to deal with.  You set it up once, and unless 
> you're adding new devices, or accessing your Apple ID on numerous devices 
> other than your own, it never asks for codes again.  2FA is different than 
> Two-Step Verification which is more annoying.
> 
> Later...
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Jamf Certified Associate
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Oct 30, 2019, at 23:04, Simon A Fogarty  <mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:
> 
> Yeah I just set up a new iPad mini and when asked for that I said no as it 
> annoys me rather than helps me.
>  
>  
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>  <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Petrus Tuerlings
> Sent: Thursday, 31 October 2019 2:51 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: Two factor authentication
>  
> I think it is still up to you whether you want to use it or not. i set mine 
> up before I upgraded.
> 
> Sent from Petrus's iPhone
> 
> 
> On 31/10/2019, at 14:31, Simon A Fogarty  <mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:
> 
>  
> So is 2 factor auth now required with Catalina
> Or is it still up to the user if they wish to use it?
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>  <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Petrus Tuerlings
> Sent: Thursday, 31 October 2019 2:17 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: Two factor authentication
>  
> Well I did get a similar message to that, I got a notification to finish 
> setting up two factor authentication on my Mac and I had to enter the Apple 
> ID pass word again and then enter the security code that appeared on my 
> iPhone. 
> 
> 
> 
> On 27/10/2019, at 14:22, M. Taylor mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>> 
> wrote:
>  
> Hello Petrus,
> 
> You ask a very good question the answer to which is, no.  
> 
> Two-factor authentication is an account modification so once done, on any 
> device, it is done for all devices.
> 
> From now on, when you login to your account, you will be required to enter a 
> security code.
> 
> Sometimes after setting up 2-factor, you will receive a message on your Mac 
> that you need to login to your account in order to take advantage of all 
> features.
> 
> Should this happen, just login and if you are already logged-in, then log-out 
> and then log back in.
> 
> Mark
> 
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf Of Petrus Tuerlings
> Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2019 5:55 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Two factor authentication
> 
> Hi all,
> I have a silly question. I just set up two factor authentication on my 
> iPhone, I no I was a bit naughty leaving it this late. But do I need to do it 
> on my Mac as well?
> Thanks in advance,
> Petrus 
> Sent from Petrus' MacBook 
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Re: Two factor authentication

[Petrus Tuerlings]

I agree, 2 fa is easy and you don’t really need to deal with it that often, the 
worst thing about it is spelling it. So what is two step verification? 

> On 1/11/2019, at 02:32, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I find that 2FA is very easy to deal with.  You set it up once, and unless 
> you're adding new devices, or accessing your Apple ID on numerous devices 
> other than your own, it never asks for codes again.  2FA is different than 
> Two-Step Verification which is more annoying.
> 
> Later...
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Jamf Certified Associate
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Oct 30, 2019, at 23:04, Simon A Fogarty  <mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:
> 
> Yeah I just set up a new iPad mini and when asked for that I said no as it 
> annoys me rather than helps me.
>  
>  
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>  <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Petrus Tuerlings
> Sent: Thursday, 31 October 2019 2:51 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: Two factor authentication
>  
> I think it is still up to you whether you want to use it or not. i set mine 
> up before I upgraded.
> 
> Sent from Petrus's iPhone
> 
> 
> On 31/10/2019, at 14:31, Simon A Fogarty  <mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:
> 
>  
> So is 2 factor auth now required with Catalina
> Or is it still up to the user if they wish to use it?
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>  <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Petrus Tuerlings
> Sent: Thursday, 31 October 2019 2:17 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: Two factor authentication
>  
> Well I did get a similar message to that, I got a notification to finish 
> setting up two factor authentication on my Mac and I had to enter the Apple 
> ID pass word again and then enter the security code that appeared on my 
> iPhone. 
> 
> 
> 
> On 27/10/2019, at 14:22, M. Taylor mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>> 
> wrote:
>  
> Hello Petrus,
> 
> You ask a very good question the answer to which is, no.  
> 
> Two-factor authentication is an account modification so once done, on any 
> device, it is done for all devices.
> 
> From now on, when you login to your account, you will be required to enter a 
> security code.
> 
> Sometimes after setting up 2-factor, you will receive a message on your Mac 
> that you need to login to your account in order to take advantage of all 
> features.
> 
> Should this happen, just login and if you are already logged-in, then log-out 
> and then log back in.
> 
> Mark
> 
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf Of Petrus Tuerlings
> Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2019 5:55 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Two factor authentication
> 
> Hi all,
> I have a silly question. I just set up two factor authentication on my 
> iPhone, I no I was a bit naughty leaving it this late. But do I need to do it 
> on my Mac as well?
> Thanks in advance,
> Petrus 
> Sent from Petrus' MacBook 
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Re: Two factor authentication

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

I find that 2FA is very easy to deal with.  You set it up once, and unless 
you're adding new devices, or accessing your Apple ID on numerous devices other 
than your own, it never asks for codes again.  2FA is different than Two-Step 
Verification which is more annoying.

Later...


Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Jamf Certified Associate
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Oct 30, 2019, at 23:04, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:

Yeah I just set up a new iPad mini and when asked for that I said no as it 
annoys me rather than helps me.
 
 
 
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On 
Behalf Of Petrus Tuerlings
Sent: Thursday, 31 October 2019 2:51 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Two factor authentication
 
I think it is still up to you whether you want to use it or not. i set mine up 
before I upgraded.

Sent from Petrus's iPhone


On 31/10/2019, at 14:31, Simon A Fogarty mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

 
So is 2 factor auth now required with Catalina
Or is it still up to the user if they wish to use it?
 
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On 
Behalf Of Petrus Tuerlings
Sent: Thursday, 31 October 2019 2:17 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Two factor authentication
 
Well I did get a similar message to that, I got a notification to finish 
setting up two factor authentication on my Mac and I had to enter the Apple ID 
pass word again and then enter the security code that appeared on my iPhone. 



On 27/10/2019, at 14:22, M. Taylor mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>> 
wrote:
 
Hello Petrus,

You ask a very good question the answer to which is, no.  

Two-factor authentication is an account modification so once done, on any 
device, it is done for all devices.

>From now on, when you login to your account, you will be required to enter a 
>security code.

Sometimes after setting up 2-factor, you will receive a message on your Mac 
that you need to login to your account in order to take advantage of all 
features.

Should this happen, just login and if you are already logged-in, then log-out 
and then log back in.

Mark

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf Of Petrus Tuerlings
Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2019 5:55 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Two factor authentication

Hi all,
I have a silly question. I just set up two factor authentication on my iPhone, 
I no I was a bit naughty leaving it this late. But do I need to do it on my Mac 
as well?
Thanks in advance,
Petrus 
Sent from Petrus' MacBook 

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RE: Two factor authentication

[Simon A Fogarty]

Yeah I just set up a new iPad mini and when asked for that I said no as it 
annoys me rather than helps me.



From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Petrus Tuerlings
Sent: Thursday, 31 October 2019 2:51 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Two factor authentication

I think it is still up to you whether you want to use it or not. i set mine up 
before I upgraded.
Sent from Petrus's iPhone


On 31/10/2019, at 14:31, Simon A Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

So is 2 factor auth now required with Catalina
Or is it still up to the user if they wish to use it?

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On 
Behalf Of Petrus Tuerlings
Sent: Thursday, 31 October 2019 2:17 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Two factor authentication

Well I did get a similar message to that, I got a notification to finish 
setting up two factor authentication on my Mac and I had to enter the Apple ID 
pass word again and then enter the security code that appeared on my iPhone.



On 27/10/2019, at 14:22, M. Taylor mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>> 
wrote:

Hello Petrus,

You ask a very good question the answer to which is, no.

Two-factor authentication is an account modification so once done, on any 
device, it is done for all devices.

>From now on, when you login to your account, you will be required to enter a 
>security code.

Sometimes after setting up 2-factor, you will receive a message on your Mac 
that you need to login to your account in order to take advantage of all 
features.

Should this happen, just login and if you are already logged-in, then log-out 
and then log back in.

Mark

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Petrus Tuerlings
Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2019 5:55 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Two factor authentication

Hi all,
I have a silly question. I just set up two factor authentication on my iPhone, 
I no I was a bit naughty leaving it this late. But do I need to do it on my Mac 
as well?
Thanks in advance,
Petrus
Sent from Petrus' MacBook

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Re: Two factor authentication

[Petrus Tuerlings]

I think it is still up to you whether you want to use it or not. i set mine up 
before I upgraded.

Sent from Petrus's iPhone

> On 31/10/2019, at 14:31, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 


So is 2 factor auth now required with Catalina
Or is it still up to the user if they wish to use it?
 
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Petrus Tuerlings
Sent: Thursday, 31 October 2019 2:17 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Two factor authentication
 
Well I did get a similar message to that, I got a notification to finish 
setting up two factor authentication on my Mac and I had to enter the Apple ID 
pass word again and then enter the security code that appeared on my iPhone. 


On 27/10/2019, at 14:22, M. Taylor  wrote:
 
Hello Petrus,

You ask a very good question the answer to which is, no.  

Two-factor authentication is an account modification so once done, on any 
device, it is done for all devices.

>From now on, when you login to your account, you will be required to enter a 
>security code.

Sometimes after setting up 2-factor, you will receive a message on your Mac 
that you need to login to your account in order to take advantage of all 
features.

Should this happen, just login and if you are already logged-in, then log-out 
and then log back in.

Mark

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Petrus Tuerlings
Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2019 5:55 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Two factor authentication

Hi all,
I have a silly question. I just set up two factor authentication on my iPhone, 
I no I was a bit naughty leaving it this late. But do I need to do it on my Mac 
as well?
Thanks in advance,
Petrus 
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RE: Two factor authentication

[Simon A Fogarty]

So is 2 factor auth now required with Catalina
Or is it still up to the user if they wish to use it?

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Petrus Tuerlings
Sent: Thursday, 31 October 2019 2:17 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Two factor authentication

Well I did get a similar message to that, I got a notification to finish 
setting up two factor authentication on my Mac and I had to enter the Apple ID 
pass word again and then enter the security code that appeared on my iPhone.


On 27/10/2019, at 14:22, M. Taylor mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>> 
wrote:

Hello Petrus,

You ask a very good question the answer to which is, no.

Two-factor authentication is an account modification so once done, on any 
device, it is done for all devices.

>From now on, when you login to your account, you will be required to enter a 
>security code.

Sometimes after setting up 2-factor, you will receive a message on your Mac 
that you need to login to your account in order to take advantage of all 
features.

Should this happen, just login and if you are already logged-in, then log-out 
and then log back in.

Mark

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Petrus Tuerlings
Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2019 5:55 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Two factor authentication

Hi all,
I have a silly question. I just set up two factor authentication on my iPhone, 
I no I was a bit naughty leaving it this late. But do I need to do it on my Mac 
as well?
Thanks in advance,
Petrus
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Re: Two factor authentication

[Petrus Tuerlings]

Well I did get a similar message to that, I got a notification to finish 
setting up two factor authentication on my Mac and I had to enter the Apple ID 
pass word again and then enter the security code that appeared on my iPhone. 

> On 27/10/2019, at 14:22, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Petrus,
> 
> You ask a very good question the answer to which is, no.  
> 
> Two-factor authentication is an account modification so once done, on any 
> device, it is done for all devices.
> 
> From now on, when you login to your account, you will be required to enter a 
> security code.
> 
> Sometimes after setting up 2-factor, you will receive a message on your Mac 
> that you need to login to your account in order to take advantage of all 
> features.
> 
> Should this happen, just login and if you are already logged-in, then log-out 
> and then log back in.
> 
> Mark
> 
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Petrus Tuerlings
> Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2019 5:55 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Two factor authentication
> 
> Hi all,
> I have a silly question. I just set up two factor authentication on my 
> iPhone, I no I was a bit naughty leaving it this late. But do I need to do it 
> on my Mac as well?
> Thanks in advance,
> Petrus 
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RE: Two factor authentication

[Simon A Fogarty]

Hi Petrus,

I believe once you have it setup on a device
2fa flows through to the other devices.
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
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Sent: Sunday, 27 October 2019 1:55 PM
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Subject: Two factor authentication

Hi all,
I have a silly question. I just set up two factor authentication on my iPhone, 
I no I was a bit naughty leaving it this late. But do I need to do it on my Mac 
as well?
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Petrus
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RE: Two factor authentication

[M. Taylor]

Hello Petrus,

You ask a very good question the answer to which is, no.  

Two-factor authentication is an account modification so once done, on any 
device, it is done for all devices.

>From now on, when you login to your account, you will be required to enter a 
>security code.

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features.

Should this happen, just login and if you are already logged-in, then log-out 
and then log back in.

Mark

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Petrus Tuerlings
Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2019 5:55 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Two factor authentication

Hi all,
I have a silly question. I just set up two factor authentication on my iPhone, 
I no I was a bit naughty leaving it this late. But do I need to do it on my Mac 
as well?
Thanks in advance,
Petrus 
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Two factor authentication

[Petrus Tuerlings]

Hi all,
I have a silly question. I just set up two factor authentication on my iPhone, 
I no I was a bit naughty leaving it this late. But do I need to do it on my Mac 
as well?
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Re: Two Factor Authentication

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

   The problem I had was I had to simply stop trying and wait. I 
managed to get it done this morning.


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On 1/30/2019 1:13 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote:

I'd go for the one received latest.

-Original Message-
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Sent: Wednesday, 30 January 2019 10:23 AM
To: MacVisionaries 
Subject: Two Factor Authentication

 Running Mojave. I had occasion to deal with this today on the Mac. I 
received a verification code on both the Mac and on the iPhone. Does it matter 
which one I enter?

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RE: Two Factor Authentication

[Simon Fogarty]

I'd go for the one received latest.

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Subject: Two Factor Authentication

Running Mojave. I had occasion to deal with this today on the Mac. I 
received a verification code on both the Mac and on the iPhone. Does it matter 
which one I enter?

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Re: Two Factor Authentication

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   I've never seen the same code sent to Mac and iPhone but Jonathan 
hit on it. Still I cannot successfully enter a code. Maybe if I wait 
till morning it will accept a code then.


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Hi,

Not at all.  Normally, they should be the same, but if they weren't, go 
with whichever you feel like.


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   Running Mojave. I had occasion to deal with this today on the Mac. I 
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Re: Two Factor Authentication

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   Ok that makes sense and it sort of works but, after I reset my 
password which was part of the plan, and going back to get a new 
app-specific password, all attempts to enter the verification code gives 
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Well, if this is Apple TFA then the system should ask you if you  want to 
approve before actually generating a 6 digit code. In that case, you should 
only say OK on one system and you will only get one code. Most other systems 
that don’t have a dedicated app such as duo mobile or Microsoft Authenticator 
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I do appreciate Microsoft Authenticator where I don’t even need to unlock the 
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Re: Two Factor Authentication

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Well, if this is Apple TFA then the system should ask you if you  want to 
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> On Jan 29, 2019, at 4:23 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
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> 
>   Running Mojave. I had occasion to deal with this today on the Mac. I 
> received a verification code on both the Mac and on the iPhone. Does it 
> matter which one I enter?
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Re: Two Factor Authentication

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

Not at all.  Normally, they should be the same, but if they weren't, go with 
whichever you feel like.

Later...

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Two Factor Authentication

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   Running Mojave. I had occasion to deal with this today on the Mac. I 
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Re: Upgrading to a new iPhone with two factor authentication

[David Chittenden]

Yes, you are correct. When switching to a new device, the device will download 
the latest app. It will also transfer all the data from the old device for each 
app.

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> On 20 Oct 2018, at 12:07, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Thanks, David. So just one more question. I have a slightly older version of 
> voice dream reader on my old phone. I kept it because it does when I want, 
> and I didn’t want to chance losing my big library. It’s my understanding that 
> apps are actually not transferred over, but the latest versions are 
> downloaded from the App Store. That would mean I would need to get my Voice 
> Dream and it’s associated library updated, right? Or I’m going to have a big 
> problem.
> 
> 
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> 
>> On Oct 19, 2018, at 7:04 PM, David Chittenden  wrote:
>> 
>> Actually, Apple has finally made it much easier now. Just place the new 
>> phone near the old phone and have the old phone unlocked. IOS will transfer 
>> everything across for you. You can change the SIM card before you start, or 
>> after you finish. I believe I changed the SIM card first when I did it last 
>> year. It really is slick and easy. Just make sure you are in a WIFI network.
>> 
>> Kind regards,
>> 
>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>> Mobile: +61 488 988 936
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 20 Oct 2018, at 10:46, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> It’s been along time since I’ve had to deal with either getting a new phone 
>>> or using two factor authentication. What I remember from the last time I 
>>> bought a phone is that you have to put the Sim from your old phone into 
>>> your new phone in order to get the process of getting your phone up and 
>>> running started. I also remember some problems with two factor 
>>> authentication in the past, having to do with needing to have two devices 
>>> on the same network or something, so that I could get a message on one that 
>>> would then be typed into the other one in order to continue with the 
>>> process. Does anybody know of documentation somewhere that spells out just 
>>> what you have to do? I mean, here I would have my old phone on my Wi-Fi 
>>> network but no Sim, so no cellular connection. The new phone will be 
>>> presumably on the cellular network but I can’t remember where the Wi-Fi 
>>> setting comes in. Anyway, all I need is a pointer in the right direction I 
>>> guess.
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: Upgrading to a new iPhone with two factor authentication

[Mary Otten]

Thanks, David. So just one more question. I have a slightly older version of 
voice dream reader on my old phone. I kept it because it does when I want, and 
I didn’t want to chance losing my big library. It’s my understanding that apps 
are actually not transferred over, but the latest versions are downloaded from 
the App Store. That would mean I would need to get my Voice Dream and it’s 
associated library updated, right? Or I’m going to have a big problem.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 19, 2018, at 7:04 PM, David Chittenden  wrote:
> 
> Actually, Apple has finally made it much easier now. Just place the new phone 
> near the old phone and have the old phone unlocked. IOS will transfer 
> everything across for you. You can change the SIM card before you start, or 
> after you finish. I believe I changed the SIM card first when I did it last 
> year. It really is slick and easy. Just make sure you are in a WIFI network.
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
> Mobile: +61 488 988 936
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 20 Oct 2018, at 10:46, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> It’s been along time since I’ve had to deal with either getting a new phone 
>> or using two factor authentication. What I remember from the last time I 
>> bought a phone is that you have to put the Sim from your old phone into your 
>> new phone in order to get the process of getting your phone up and running 
>> started. I also remember some problems with two factor authentication in the 
>> past, having to do with needing to have two devices on the same network or 
>> something, so that I could get a message on one that would then be typed 
>> into the other one in order to continue with the process. Does anybody know 
>> of documentation somewhere that spells out just what you have to do? I mean, 
>> here I would have my old phone on my Wi-Fi network but no Sim, so no 
>> cellular connection. The new phone will be presumably on the cellular 
>> network but I can’t remember where the Wi-Fi setting comes in. Anyway, all I 
>> need is a pointer in the right direction I guess.
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
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Re: Upgrading to a new iPhone with two factor authentication

[David Chittenden]

Actually, Apple has finally made it much easier now. Just place the new phone 
near the old phone and have the old phone unlocked. IOS will transfer 
everything across for you. You can change the SIM card before you start, or 
after you finish. I believe I changed the SIM card first when I did it last 
year. It really is slick and easy. Just make sure you are in a WIFI network.

Kind regards,

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +61 488 988 936
Sent from my iPhone

> On 20 Oct 2018, at 10:46, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> It’s been along time since I’ve had to deal with either getting a new phone 
> or using two factor authentication. What I remember from the last time I 
> bought a phone is that you have to put the Sim from your old phone into your 
> new phone in order to get the process of getting your phone up and running 
> started. I also remember some problems with two factor authentication in the 
> past, having to do with needing to have two devices on the same network or 
> something, so that I could get a message on one that would then be typed into 
> the other one in order to continue with the process. Does anybody know of 
> documentation somewhere that spells out just what you have to do? I mean, 
> here I would have my old phone on my Wi-Fi network but no Sim, so no cellular 
> connection. The new phone will be presumably on the cellular network but I 
> can’t remember where the Wi-Fi setting comes in. Anyway, all I need is a 
> pointer in the right direction I guess.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Upgrading to a new iPhone with two factor authentication

[Mary Otten]

It’s been along time since I’ve had to deal with either getting a new phone or 
using two factor authentication. What I remember from the last time I bought a 
phone is that you have to put the Sim from your old phone into your new phone 
in order to get the process of getting your phone up and running started. I 
also remember some problems with two factor authentication in the past, having 
to do with needing to have two devices on the same network or something, so 
that I could get a message on one that would then be typed into the other one 
in order to continue with the process. Does anybody know of documentation 
somewhere that spells out just what you have to do? I mean, here I would have 
my old phone on my Wi-Fi network but no Sim, so no cellular connection. The new 
phone will be presumably on the cellular network but I can’t remember where the 
Wi-Fi setting comes in. Anyway, all I need is a pointer in the right direction 
I guess.
Mary


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Re: Two Factor Authentication on Mac

[Michelle's Home Emails]

Hi there 

Michelle here, 

I had the same problem. It wasn't until I realised I was not focused on the 
first edit box to start entering the numbers. Yes you type the first number and 
it goes automatically to the next edit box etc. 

Good luck 
Michelle 

Sent from my iPhone

> On 16 May 2017, at 5:06 am, christopher hallsworth <challswor...@icloud.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Hi so what should happen is focus is placed in the first edit box so you type 
> the first number then it should move to the second edit box where you type 
> your second number and so on until the sixth and last number which should 
> then automatically sign you in once it has been verified with the correct 
> code.
> 
>> On 15 May 2017, at 20:02, Lee Jones <leeavatar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Dear List, has anyone had any success signing into a mac with two factor 
>> authentication independently. On the one occasion I tried to do it when my 
>> icloud music library session timed out, I found it impossible to get the 
>> numbers entered in time, and the focus seemed to be moving all over the 
>> place..  If someone has done it with VO, could you share your technique, I’m 
>> a bit slow on the uptake.  If I can’t sign into a mac independently that is 
>> a bit of a deal breaker.
>> Many Thanks, Lee 
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Re: Two Factor Authentication on Mac

[christopher hallsworth]

Hi so what should happen is focus is placed in the first edit box so you type 
the first number then it should move to the second edit box where you type your 
second number and so on until the sixth and last number which should then 
automatically sign you in once it has been verified with the correct code.
> On 15 May 2017, at 20:02, Lee Jones <leeavatar...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Dear List, has anyone had any success signing into a mac with two factor 
> authentication independently. On the one occasion I tried to do it when my 
> icloud music library session timed out, I found it impossible to get the 
> numbers entered in time, and the focus seemed to be moving all over the 
> place.  If someone has done it with VO, could you share your technique, I’m a 
> bit slow on the uptake.  If I can’t sign into a mac independently that is a 
> bit of a deal breaker.
> Many Thanks, Lee 
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Re: Two Factor Authentication on Mac

[christopher hallsworth]

Hi so what should happen is focus is placed in the first edit box so you type 
the first number then it should move to the second edit box where you type your 
second number and so on until the sixth and last number which should then 
automatically sign you in once it has been verified with the correct code.

> On 15 May 2017, at 20:02, Lee Jones <leeavatar...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Dear List, has anyone had any success signing into a mac with two factor 
> authentication independently. On the one occasion I tried to do it when my 
> icloud music library session timed out, I found it impossible to get the 
> numbers entered in time, and the focus seemed to be moving all over the 
> place.  If someone has done it with VO, could you share your technique, I’m a 
> bit slow on the uptake.  If I can’t sign into a mac independently that is a 
> bit of a deal breaker.
> Many Thanks, Lee 
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Two Factor Authentication on Mac

[Lee Jones]

Dear List, has anyone had any success signing into a mac with two factor 
authentication independently. On the one occasion I tried to do it when my 
icloud music library session timed out, I found it impossible to get the 
numbers entered in time, and the focus seemed to be moving all over the place.  
If someone has done it with VO, could you share your technique, I’m a bit slow 
on the uptake.  If I can’t sign into a mac independently that is a bit of a 
deal breaker.
Many Thanks, Lee 

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Re: Apple Two-Factor Authentication Finally Enabled on all of my Devices and Accounts

[Karen Lewellen]

on a side note, something to consider.
There is a well established scam where you get an email branded from 
apple, claiming that your apple id has been compromised.

I get them regularly, and I do not even have an apple device.
The scam is one of many those who  successfully hacked large players use to 
further the  work of stealing your devices.
be very very careful that once you make this change you can easily and 
effortlessly verify to your devices that it is really  you.
Simply fortifying the importance of Andrew's question.  if there is a time 
limit, you may sart to look like  a hacker.

Kare


On Sun, 2 Apr 2017, Anders Holmberg wrote:


Hi!
If its valid up to ten minutes then i have to try to get it going on apple 
music on android again.
I don’t know why but i got a verification code and entered it directly after my 
password but it did not work.
I wonder if its because i have to digits at the end of it.
BUt this shouldn’t be any problem.
/A

1 apr. 2017 kl. 23:06 skrev M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu>:

Hello Andrew,

You ask a very interesting question.

Even though the field to which you are prompted to enter the 6-digit code has 
disappeared after switching to the messaging app, try re-initiating the 
process, in the original app, as the code should still be valid for at least a 
few minutes.  I thought I read somewhere that the code is valid for up to 10 
minutes.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Andrew Lamanche
Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2017 1:28 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Two-Factor Authentication Finally Enabled on all of my 
Devices and Accounts

Dear Mark,

Thank you for posting this.  I have two factor verification turned on, and i  
usually use a trusted device (my ipad) to receive a 6 digit code.  But say, no 
trusted device is available.  If the code arrives via text message on the 
iphone from which I'm trying to log in, how can I reliably read repeatedly the 
code that's been sent to me?  I've tried this, and I couldn't.  When I went to 
messaging application to read and memorise the code, and then returned to the 
application which required my entering the code, the field to which I'd have to 
type the code was gone.  Any tips or suggestions? Or does this mean that I 
always have to have another device at the ready while logging in?

On 1 Apr 2017, at 08:10, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu> wrote:

Hello All,

Well, I cannot say that it was easy, given that I have multiple Apple
accounts on a wide variety of devices including Windows 10, Windows 7,
Windows 8, Mac, iOS, etc and also that I access my various email
accounts from legacy Windows based clients but, after updating all
components, including the latest versions of the iCloud Control Panel
for Windows, and, after resurrecting a couple of old iPhones and Macs
from the grave to serve as on the fly trusted devices, all of my
products are now protected via Two-Factor authentication.

I dare say that most will not find the upgrade to two-factor as
arduous as I so, I do recommend upgrading if you have both the time
and patience to learn the entire process.

To those of you who only have one device? I say go for it as you will
be prompted for a telephone number that can always provide the on the
fly code you will need to login to new Apple devices or any web
browsers.  The best thing is that once you select to trust the device
or web browser, you will not be prompted for the security code again,
unless you choose to be prompted.

I have spent the past two days really putting two-factor
authentication on all of my devices and products to the test and I
must say that it performs as beautifully as Apple claims, including
when it is necessary to generate an application-specific password for
non-apple legacy clients such as older versions of Outlook or Thunderbird.

Keep in mind that this is something that you do not want to rush through.
Take your time and read all of the information that is displayed
during the upgrade process as it will help you a great deal.

One more thing, I strongly suggest that before you decide to upgrade
to two-factor, that you login to http://appleid.apple.com and
familiarize yourself with the site because after upgrading to
two-factor for longer than
30 days, the only way you will be able to turn it off is by logging
into that site with a verification code from either a trusted
device/phone number.

Good Luck to you all and I'll see you on the other side of the
security wall (smile).

Mark

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Re: Apple Two-Factor Authentication Finally Enabled on all of my Devices and Accounts

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
If its valid up to ten minutes then i have to try to get it going on apple 
music on android again.
I don’t know why but i got a verification code and entered it directly after my 
password but it did not work.
I wonder if its because i have to digits at the end of it.
BUt this shouldn’t be any problem.
/A
> 1 apr. 2017 kl. 23:06 skrev M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu>:
> 
> Hello Andrew,
> 
> You ask a very interesting question.
> 
> Even though the field to which you are prompted to enter the 6-digit code has 
> disappeared after switching to the messaging app, try re-initiating the 
> process, in the original app, as the code should still be valid for at least 
> a few minutes.  I thought I read somewhere that the code is valid for up to 
> 10 minutes.
> 
> Mark
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Lamanche
> Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2017 1:28 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple Two-Factor Authentication Finally Enabled on all of my 
> Devices and Accounts
> 
> Dear Mark,
> 
> Thank you for posting this.  I have two factor verification turned on, and i  
> usually use a trusted device (my ipad) to receive a 6 digit code.  But say, 
> no trusted device is available.  If the code arrives via text message on the 
> iphone from which I'm trying to log in, how can I reliably read repeatedly 
> the code that's been sent to me?  I've tried this, and I couldn't.  When I 
> went to messaging application to read and memorise the code, and then 
> returned to the application which required my entering the code, the field to 
> which I'd have to type the code was gone.  Any tips or suggestions? Or does 
> this mean that I always have to have another device at the ready while 
> logging in?
>> On 1 Apr 2017, at 08:10, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello All,
>> 
>> Well, I cannot say that it was easy, given that I have multiple Apple 
>> accounts on a wide variety of devices including Windows 10, Windows 7, 
>> Windows 8, Mac, iOS, etc and also that I access my various email 
>> accounts from legacy Windows based clients but, after updating all 
>> components, including the latest versions of the iCloud Control Panel 
>> for Windows, and, after resurrecting a couple of old iPhones and Macs 
>> from the grave to serve as on the fly trusted devices, all of my 
>> products are now protected via Two-Factor authentication.
>> 
>> I dare say that most will not find the upgrade to two-factor as 
>> arduous as I so, I do recommend upgrading if you have both the time 
>> and patience to learn the entire process.
>> 
>> To those of you who only have one device? I say go for it as you will 
>> be prompted for a telephone number that can always provide the on the 
>> fly code you will need to login to new Apple devices or any web 
>> browsers.  The best thing is that once you select to trust the device 
>> or web browser, you will not be prompted for the security code again, 
>> unless you choose to be prompted.
>> 
>> I have spent the past two days really putting two-factor 
>> authentication on all of my devices and products to the test and I 
>> must say that it performs as beautifully as Apple claims, including 
>> when it is necessary to generate an application-specific password for 
>> non-apple legacy clients such as older versions of Outlook or Thunderbird.
>> 
>> Keep in mind that this is something that you do not want to rush through.
>> Take your time and read all of the information that is displayed 
>> during the upgrade process as it will help you a great deal.
>> 
>> One more thing, I strongly suggest that before you decide to upgrade 
>> to two-factor, that you login to http://appleid.apple.com and 
>> familiarize yourself with the site because after upgrading to 
>> two-factor for longer than
>> 30 days, the only way you will be able to turn it off is by logging 
>> into that site with a verification code from either a trusted 
>> device/phone number.
>> 
>> Good Luck to you all and I'll see you on the other side of the 
>> security wall (smile).
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
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RE: Apple Two-Factor Authentication Finally Enabled on all of my Devices and Accounts

[M. Taylor]

One more thing, I forgot to include in my previous post, although I have not 
done so, it is possible to have the code sent to your trusted phone number, via 
voice.  So, in this case, you could simply have the number read out loud to you 
on your phone.

I suspect this option is available in the More Options link that appears in the 
same dialog box as the 6-digit code prompt.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2017 2:06 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Two-Factor Authentication Finally Enabled on all of my 
Devices and Accounts

Hello Andrew,

You ask a very interesting question.

Even though the field to which you are prompted to enter the 6-digit code has 
disappeared after switching to the messaging app, try re-initiating the 
process, in the original app, as the code should still be valid for at least a 
few minutes.  I thought I read somewhere that the code is valid for up to 10 
minutes.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Andrew Lamanche
Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2017 1:28 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Two-Factor Authentication Finally Enabled on all of my 
Devices and Accounts

Dear Mark,

Thank you for posting this.  I have two factor verification turned on, and i  
usually use a trusted device (my ipad) to receive a 6 digit code.  But say, no 
trusted device is available.  If the code arrives via text message on the 
iphone from which I'm trying to log in, how can I reliably read repeatedly the 
code that's been sent to me?  I've tried this, and I couldn't.  When I went to 
messaging application to read and memorise the code, and then returned to the 
application which required my entering the code, the field to which I'd have to 
type the code was gone.  Any tips or suggestions? Or does this mean that I 
always have to have another device at the ready while logging in?
> On 1 Apr 2017, at 08:10, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu> wrote:
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> Well, I cannot say that it was easy, given that I have multiple Apple 
> accounts on a wide variety of devices including Windows 10, Windows 7, 
> Windows 8, Mac, iOS, etc and also that I access my various email 
> accounts from legacy Windows based clients but, after updating all 
> components, including the latest versions of the iCloud Control Panel 
> for Windows, and, after resurrecting a couple of old iPhones and Macs 
> from the grave to serve as on the fly trusted devices, all of my 
> products are now protected via Two-Factor authentication.
> 
> I dare say that most will not find the upgrade to two-factor as 
> arduous as I so, I do recommend upgrading if you have both the time 
> and patience to learn the entire process.
> 
> To those of you who only have one device? I say go for it as you will 
> be prompted for a telephone number that can always provide the on the 
> fly code you will need to login to new Apple devices or any web 
> browsers.  The best thing is that once you select to trust the device 
> or web browser, you will not be prompted for the security code again, 
> unless you choose to be prompted.
> 
> I have spent the past two days really putting two-factor 
> authentication on all of my devices and products to the test and I 
> must say that it performs as beautifully as Apple claims, including 
> when it is necessary to generate an application-specific password for 
> non-apple legacy clients such as older versions of Outlook or Thunderbird.
> 
> Keep in mind that this is something that you do not want to rush through.
> Take your time and read all of the information that is displayed 
> during the upgrade process as it will help you a great deal.
> 
> One more thing, I strongly suggest that before you decide to upgrade 
> to two-factor, that you login to http://appleid.apple.com and 
> familiarize yourself with the site because after upgrading to 
> two-factor for longer than
> 30 days, the only way you will be able to turn it off is by logging 
> into that site with a verification code from either a trusted 
> device/phone number.
> 
> Good Luck to you all and I'll see you on the other side of the 
> security wall (smile).
> 
> Mark
> 
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RE: Apple Two-Factor Authentication Finally Enabled on all of my Devices and Accounts

[M. Taylor]

Hello Scott and thank you for your kind words.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Scott Granados
Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2017 12:09 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Two-Factor Authentication Finally Enabled on all of my 
Devices and Accounts

Hi Mark,

Well done.  You’re already more skilled than the security folks at the 
Democratic Party.;). You’ve protected yourself against fishing attacks and all 
sorts of brute force and other vulnerabilities.  Fishing is exactly how John 
Podesta’s email was penetrated and then broadcast all over Wikileaks which is 
why I made that comment.
Thank you for setting a good example and encouraging enabling this 
feature.


> On Apr 1, 2017, at 3:10 AM, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu> wrote:
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> Well, I cannot say that it was easy, given that I have multiple Apple 
> accounts on a wide variety of devices including Windows 10, Windows 7, 
> Windows 8, Mac, iOS, etc and also that I access my various email 
> accounts from legacy Windows based clients but, after updating all 
> components, including the latest versions of the iCloud Control Panel 
> for Windows, and, after resurrecting a couple of old iPhones and Macs 
> from the grave to serve as on the fly trusted devices, all of my 
> products are now protected via Two-Factor authentication.
> 
> I dare say that most will not find the upgrade to two-factor as 
> arduous as I so, I do recommend upgrading if you have both the time 
> and patience to learn the entire process.
> 
> To those of you who only have one device? I say go for it as you will 
> be prompted for a telephone number that can always provide the on the 
> fly code you will need to login to new Apple devices or any web 
> browsers.  The best thing is that once you select to trust the device 
> or web browser, you will not be prompted for the security code again, 
> unless you choose to be prompted.
> 
> I have spent the past two days really putting two-factor 
> authentication on all of my devices and products to the test and I 
> must say that it performs as beautifully as Apple claims, including 
> when it is necessary to generate an application-specific password for 
> non-apple legacy clients such as older versions of Outlook or Thunderbird.
> 
> Keep in mind that this is something that you do not want to rush through.
> Take your time and read all of the information that is displayed 
> during the upgrade process as it will help you a great deal.
> 
> One more thing, I strongly suggest that before you decide to upgrade 
> to two-factor, that you login to http://appleid.apple.com and 
> familiarize yourself with the site because after upgrading to 
> two-factor for longer than
> 30 days, the only way you will be able to turn it off is by logging 
> into that site with a verification code from either a trusted 
> device/phone number.
> 
> Good Luck to you all and I'll see you on the other side of the 
> security wall (smile).
> 
> Mark
> 
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RE: Apple Two-Factor Authentication Finally Enabled on all of my Devices and Accounts

[M. Taylor]

Hello Andrew,

You ask a very interesting question.

Even though the field to which you are prompted to enter the 6-digit code has 
disappeared after switching to the messaging app, try re-initiating the 
process, in the original app, as the code should still be valid for at least a 
few minutes.  I thought I read somewhere that the code is valid for up to 10 
minutes.

Mark

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Andrew Lamanche
Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2017 1:28 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Two-Factor Authentication Finally Enabled on all of my 
Devices and Accounts

Dear Mark,

Thank you for posting this.  I have two factor verification turned on, and i  
usually use a trusted device (my ipad) to receive a 6 digit code.  But say, no 
trusted device is available.  If the code arrives via text message on the 
iphone from which I'm trying to log in, how can I reliably read repeatedly the 
code that's been sent to me?  I've tried this, and I couldn't.  When I went to 
messaging application to read and memorise the code, and then returned to the 
application which required my entering the code, the field to which I'd have to 
type the code was gone.  Any tips or suggestions? Or does this mean that I 
always have to have another device at the ready while logging in?
> On 1 Apr 2017, at 08:10, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu> wrote:
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> Well, I cannot say that it was easy, given that I have multiple Apple 
> accounts on a wide variety of devices including Windows 10, Windows 7, 
> Windows 8, Mac, iOS, etc and also that I access my various email 
> accounts from legacy Windows based clients but, after updating all 
> components, including the latest versions of the iCloud Control Panel 
> for Windows, and, after resurrecting a couple of old iPhones and Macs 
> from the grave to serve as on the fly trusted devices, all of my 
> products are now protected via Two-Factor authentication.
> 
> I dare say that most will not find the upgrade to two-factor as 
> arduous as I so, I do recommend upgrading if you have both the time 
> and patience to learn the entire process.
> 
> To those of you who only have one device? I say go for it as you will 
> be prompted for a telephone number that can always provide the on the 
> fly code you will need to login to new Apple devices or any web 
> browsers.  The best thing is that once you select to trust the device 
> or web browser, you will not be prompted for the security code again, 
> unless you choose to be prompted.
> 
> I have spent the past two days really putting two-factor 
> authentication on all of my devices and products to the test and I 
> must say that it performs as beautifully as Apple claims, including 
> when it is necessary to generate an application-specific password for 
> non-apple legacy clients such as older versions of Outlook or Thunderbird.
> 
> Keep in mind that this is something that you do not want to rush through.
> Take your time and read all of the information that is displayed 
> during the upgrade process as it will help you a great deal.
> 
> One more thing, I strongly suggest that before you decide to upgrade 
> to two-factor, that you login to http://appleid.apple.com and 
> familiarize yourself with the site because after upgrading to 
> two-factor for longer than
> 30 days, the only way you will be able to turn it off is by logging 
> into that site with a verification code from either a trusted 
> device/phone number.
> 
> Good Luck to you all and I'll see you on the other side of the 
> security wall (smile).
> 
> Mark
> 
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Re: Apple Two-Factor Authentication Finally Enabled on all of my Devices and Accounts

[Andrew Lamanche]

Dear Mark,

Thank you for posting this.  I have two factor verification turned on, and i  
usually use a trusted device (my ipad) to receive a 6 digit code.  But say, no 
trusted device is available.  If the code arrives via text message on the 
iphone from which I'm trying to log in, how can I reliably read repeatedly the 
code that's been sent to me?  I've tried this, and I couldn't.  When I went to 
messaging application to read and memorise the code, and then returned to the 
application which required my entering the code, the field to which I'd have to 
type the code was gone.  Any tips or suggestions? Or does this mean that I 
always have to have another device at the ready while logging in?
> On 1 Apr 2017, at 08:10, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu> wrote:
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> Well, I cannot say that it was easy, given that I have multiple Apple
> accounts on a wide variety of devices including Windows 10, Windows 7,
> Windows 8, Mac, iOS, etc and also that I access my various email accounts
> from legacy Windows based clients but, after updating all components,
> including the latest versions of the iCloud Control Panel for Windows, and,
> after resurrecting a couple of old iPhones and Macs from the grave to serve
> as on the fly trusted devices, all of my products are now protected via
> Two-Factor authentication.  
> 
> I dare say that most will not find the upgrade to two-factor as arduous as I
> so, I do recommend upgrading if you have both the time and patience to learn
> the entire process.
> 
> To those of you who only have one device? I say go for it as you will be
> prompted for a telephone number that can always provide the on the fly code
> you will need to login to new Apple devices or any web browsers.  The best
> thing is that once you select to trust the device or web browser, you will
> not be prompted for the security code again, unless you choose to be
> prompted.  
> 
> I have spent the past two days really putting two-factor authentication on
> all of my devices and products to the test and I must say that it performs
> as beautifully as Apple claims, including when it is necessary to generate
> an application-specific password for non-apple legacy clients such as older
> versions of Outlook or Thunderbird.
> 
> Keep in mind that this is something that you do not want to rush through.
> Take your time and read all of the information that is displayed during the
> upgrade process as it will help you a great deal.
> 
> One more thing, I strongly suggest that before you decide to upgrade to
> two-factor, that you login to http://appleid.apple.com and familiarize
> yourself with the site because after upgrading to two-factor for longer than
> 30 days, the only way you will be able to turn it off is by logging into
> that site with a verification code from either a trusted device/phone
> number.
> 
> Good Luck to you all and I'll see you on the other side of the security wall
> (smile). 
> 
> Mark
> 
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Re: Apple Two-Factor Authentication Finally Enabled on all of my Devices and Accounts

[Scott Granados]

Hi Mark,

Well done.  You’re already more skilled than the security folks at the 
Democratic Party.;). You’ve protected yourself against fishing attacks and all 
sorts of brute force and other vulnerabilities.  Fishing is exactly how John 
Podesta’s email was penetrated and then broadcast all over Wikileaks which is 
why I made that comment.
Thank you for setting a good example and encouraging enabling this 
feature.


> On Apr 1, 2017, at 3:10 AM, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu> wrote:
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> Well, I cannot say that it was easy, given that I have multiple Apple
> accounts on a wide variety of devices including Windows 10, Windows 7,
> Windows 8, Mac, iOS, etc and also that I access my various email accounts
> from legacy Windows based clients but, after updating all components,
> including the latest versions of the iCloud Control Panel for Windows, and,
> after resurrecting a couple of old iPhones and Macs from the grave to serve
> as on the fly trusted devices, all of my products are now protected via
> Two-Factor authentication.
> 
> I dare say that most will not find the upgrade to two-factor as arduous as I
> so, I do recommend upgrading if you have both the time and patience to learn
> the entire process.
> 
> To those of you who only have one device? I say go for it as you will be
> prompted for a telephone number that can always provide the on the fly code
> you will need to login to new Apple devices or any web browsers.  The best
> thing is that once you select to trust the device or web browser, you will
> not be prompted for the security code again, unless you choose to be
> prompted.
> 
> I have spent the past two days really putting two-factor authentication on
> all of my devices and products to the test and I must say that it performs
> as beautifully as Apple claims, including when it is necessary to generate
> an application-specific password for non-apple legacy clients such as older
> versions of Outlook or Thunderbird.
> 
> Keep in mind that this is something that you do not want to rush through.
> Take your time and read all of the information that is displayed during the
> upgrade process as it will help you a great deal.
> 
> One more thing, I strongly suggest that before you decide to upgrade to
> two-factor, that you login to http://appleid.apple.com and familiarize
> yourself with the site because after upgrading to two-factor for longer than
> 30 days, the only way you will be able to turn it off is by logging into
> that site with a verification code from either a trusted device/phone
> number.
> 
> Good Luck to you all and I'll see you on the other side of the security wall
> (smile).
> 
> Mark
> 
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Apple Two-Factor Authentication Finally Enabled on all of my Devices and Accounts

[M. Taylor]

Hello All,

Well, I cannot say that it was easy, given that I have multiple Apple
accounts on a wide variety of devices including Windows 10, Windows 7,
Windows 8, Mac, iOS, etc and also that I access my various email accounts
from legacy Windows based clients but, after updating all components,
including the latest versions of the iCloud Control Panel for Windows, and,
after resurrecting a couple of old iPhones and Macs from the grave to serve
as on the fly trusted devices, all of my products are now protected via
Two-Factor authentication.  

I dare say that most will not find the upgrade to two-factor as arduous as I
so, I do recommend upgrading if you have both the time and patience to learn
the entire process.

To those of you who only have one device? I say go for it as you will be
prompted for a telephone number that can always provide the on the fly code
you will need to login to new Apple devices or any web browsers.  The best
thing is that once you select to trust the device or web browser, you will
not be prompted for the security code again, unless you choose to be
prompted.  

I have spent the past two days really putting two-factor authentication on
all of my devices and products to the test and I must say that it performs
as beautifully as Apple claims, including when it is necessary to generate
an application-specific password for non-apple legacy clients such as older
versions of Outlook or Thunderbird.

Keep in mind that this is something that you do not want to rush through.
Take your time and read all of the information that is displayed during the
upgrade process as it will help you a great deal.

One more thing, I strongly suggest that before you decide to upgrade to
two-factor, that you login to http://appleid.apple.com and familiarize
yourself with the site because after upgrading to two-factor for longer than
30 days, the only way you will be able to turn it off is by logging into
that site with a verification code from either a trusted device/phone
number.

Good Luck to you all and I'll see you on the other side of the security wall
(smile). 

Mark

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Re: Questions about Two-Factor authentication

[aliFaisal]

Try going to appleid.apple.com <http://appleid.apple.com/>, logging in with 
your apple ID, and setting it up in there.

> On Oct 7, 2016, at 4:24 AM, Helga Schreiber <helga.schreibe...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> hi Simon. How are you? I did everything  you told me,and I loggign to my 
> apple ID, and I don't see it.  It only gives me, update your contact 
> information, change  security questions and so n. And I find all these 
> options  after I double tap on password and security. Do you think the reason 
> I can't activate two-factor authentication is because I purchase  tmy iPHone 
> from my carrier instead  of the apple  store? Just wondering. I think you 
> need to call  me in ordr to see what's going on! Not now,  but maybe later 
> today. This is very weird for  me.  I even try to activate it from my Mac 
> computer and  it told me that I can't activate two-factor authentication with 
> this appple ID at this time. I really don't know why. I fyou have any idea  
> why it is  giving em this message, let me know. I wil really appreciate it a 
> lot. I look forward in hearing form you soon. thanks and God bless!
> 
>   Helga Schreiber 
> Group Moderator  
>  
>   for the IPad help for the blind 
>  
> ipadhelpfortheblind+subscr...@groups.io 
> <mailto:ipadhelpfortheblind+subscr...@groups.io>  
> 
> Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of Blind 
> Students.
> Member of the International Networkers Team (INT).
> Independent Entrepreneur of the Company 4Life Research.
> Phone:  (561) 706-5950 
> Email: helga.schreibe...@gmail.com <mailto:helga.schreibe...@gmail.com> 
> Skype: helga.schreiber26 
> 4Life Website: http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.as 
> <http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.aspx>px 
> INT Website: http://int4life.com/ <http://int4life.com/> 
> 
> "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever 
> believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16 
> Sent from my iPhone 6S running IOS 10
> 
> On Oct 7, 2016, at 3:53 AM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com 
> <mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Helga,
>>  
>> Are you actually already logged into iCloud?
>>  
>> When you go into settings,
>> Then find iCloud,
>> Under iCloud you should find your log in with your apple ID  / name and if 
>> you tap on this to open it you then scrole down to  password,
>> Tap on this to open it and then you should be able to scrole down to your 
>> two factor authentication and hope fully enable it.
>>  
>> If you have iCloud setup then when  will get prompted for your account 
>> password  which after entering the password will allow you in to the account 
>> area.
>>  
>>  Hopefully this will work for you this time?
>>  
>> Let us know how you get on.
>>  
>> Cheers,
>>  
>>  
>> Simon F
>>  
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>  <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf Of Helga Schreiber
>> Sent: Thursday, 6 October 2016 8:29 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: Re: Questions about Two-Factor authentication
>>  
>> Hi simon. How are  you? Thanks so much for the steps. However, I can't find 
>> it  at all! On my apple devices. I just went to iCloud  on my mac,and it 
>> says it is off, but I can't only find tha teh two- factor authentication  on 
>> my  Mac, not on my my IOS  devices at all. And guess what, when I  presss  
>> the get  Two Factor authentication on my Mac, my Mac voiceover says you 
>> can't activate two Factor authentication with this apple ID at this time? 
>> That is very weird. I accidently try to activate two step verification and I 
>> can't even activated since I change my apple ID account page infomration a 
>> lot. So I can only activated in three days. Do you have any idea what's goin 
>> on? If you want you are free to clal on facetime or skyep. I'm very new on 
>> this. You may thing I'm crazy or soemthing! I look forward in hearing from 
>> you soon. Thanks and God bless!
>> 
>>   Helga Schreiber 
>> Group Moderator  
>>  
>>   for the IPad help for the blind 
>>  
>> ipadhelpfortheblind+subscr...@groups.io 
>> <mailto:ipadhelpfortheblind+subscr...@groups.io>  
>>  
>> Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of Blind 
>> Students.
>> Member of the International Ne

Re: Questions about Two-Factor authentication

[Jonathan Cohn]

It sounds like you made too many changes to the iCloud account and that Apple 
wants you to wait to turn on two factor. 
Consider this a security feature, if somebody works on guessing your password 
and eventually gets it right, you would not want them to then be able to change 
your authentication schemes and completely lock you out.


Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



> On Oct 7, 2016, at 4:24 AM, Helga Schreiber <helga.schreibe...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> hi Simon. How are you? I did everything  you told me,and I loggign to my 
> apple ID, and I don't see it.  It only gives me, update your contact 
> information, change  security questions and so n. And I find all these 
> options  after I double tap on password and security. Do you think the reason 
> I can't activate two-factor authentication is because I purchase  tmy iPHone 
> from my carrier instead  of the apple  store? Just wondering. I think you 
> need to call  me in ordr to see what's going on! Not now,  but maybe later 
> today. This is very weird for  me.  I even try to activate it from my Mac 
> computer and  it told me that I can't activate two-factor authentication with 
> this appple ID at this time. I really don't know why. I fyou have any idea  
> why it is  giving em this message, let me know. I wil really appreciate it a 
> lot. I look forward in hearing form you soon. thanks and God bless!
> 
>   Helga Schreiber 
> Group Moderator  
>  
>   for the IPad help for the blind 
>  
> ipadhelpfortheblind+subscr...@groups.io 
> <mailto:ipadhelpfortheblind+subscr...@groups.io>  
> 
> Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of Blind 
> Students.
> Member of the International Networkers Team (INT).
> Independent Entrepreneur of the Company 4Life Research.
> Phone:  (561) 706-5950 
> Email: helga.schreibe...@gmail.com <mailto:helga.schreibe...@gmail.com> 
> Skype: helga.schreiber26 
> 4Life Website: http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.as 
> <http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.aspx>px 
> INT Website: http://int4life.com/ <http://int4life.com/> 
> 
> "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever 
> believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16 
> Sent from my iPhone 6S running IOS 10
> 
> On Oct 7, 2016, at 3:53 AM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com 
> <mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Helga,
>>  
>> Are you actually already logged into iCloud?
>>  
>> When you go into settings,
>> Then find iCloud,
>> Under iCloud you should find your log in with your apple ID  / name and if 
>> you tap on this to open it you then scrole down to  password,
>> Tap on this to open it and then you should be able to scrole down to your 
>> two factor authentication and hope fully enable it.
>>  
>> If you have iCloud setup then when  will get prompted for your account 
>> password  which after entering the password will allow you in to the account 
>> area.
>>  
>>  Hopefully this will work for you this time?
>>  
>> Let us know how you get on.
>>  
>> Cheers,
>>  
>>  
>> Simon F
>>  
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf Of Helga Schreiber
>> Sent: Thursday, 6 October 2016 8:29 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: Re: Questions about Two-Factor authentication
>>  
>> Hi simon. How are  you? Thanks so much for the steps. However, I can't find 
>> it  at all! On my apple devices. I just went to iCloud  on my mac,and it 
>> says it is off, but I can't only find tha teh two- factor authentication  on 
>> my  Mac, not on my my IOS  devices at all. And guess what, when I  presss  
>> the get  Two Factor authentication on my Mac, my Mac voiceover says you 
>> can't activate two Factor authentication with this apple ID at this time? 
>> That is very weird. I accidently try to activate two step verification and I 
>> can't even activated since I change my apple ID account page infomration a 
>> lot. So I can only activated in three days. Do you have any idea what's goin 
>> on? If you want you are free to clal on facetime or skyep. I'm very new on 
>> this. You may thing I'm crazy or soemthing! I look forward in hearing from 
>> you soon. Thanks and God bless!
>> 
>>   Helga Schreiber 
>> Group Moderator  
>>  
>>   for the IPad help for the blind 
>> 

Re: Questions about Two-Factor authentication

[Helga Schreiber]

hi Simon. How are you? I did everything  you told me,and I loggign to my apple 
ID, and I don't see it.  It only gives me, update your contact information, 
change  security questions and so n. And I find all these options  after I 
double tap on password and security. Do you think the reason I can't activate 
two-factor authentication is because I purchase  tmy iPHone from my carrier 
instead  of the apple  store? Just wondering. I think you need to call  me in 
ordr to see what's going on! Not now,  but maybe later today. This is very 
weird for  me.  I even try to activate it from my Mac computer and  it told me 
that I can't activate two-factor authentication with this appple ID at this 
time. I really don't know why. I fyou have any idea  why it is  giving em this 
message, let me know. I wil really appreciate it a lot. I look forward in 
hearing form you soon. thanks and God bless!

  Helga Schreiber 
Group Moderator  
 
  for the IPad help for the blind 
 
ipadhelpfortheblind+subscr...@groups.io  

Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of Blind 
Students.
Member of the International Networkers Team (INT).
Independent Entrepreneur of the Company 4Life Research.
Phone:  (561) 706-5950 
Email: helga.schreibe...@gmail.com 
Skype: helga.schreiber26 
4Life Website: http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.aspx 
INT Website: http://int4life.com/ 

"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever 
believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16 
Sent from my iPhone 6S running IOS 10

> On Oct 7, 2016, at 3:53 AM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Helga,
>  
> Are you actually already logged into iCloud?
>  
> When you go into settings,
> Then find iCloud,
> Under iCloud you should find your log in with your apple ID  / name and if 
> you tap on this to open it you then scrole down to  password,
> Tap on this to open it and then you should be able to scrole down to your two 
> factor authentication and hope fully enable it.
>  
> If you have iCloud setup then when  will get prompted for your account 
> password  which after entering the password will allow you in to the account 
> area.
>  
>  Hopefully this will work for you this time?
>  
> Let us know how you get on.
>  
> Cheers,
>  
>  
> Simon F
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Helga Schreiber
> Sent: Thursday, 6 October 2016 8:29 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Questions about Two-Factor authentication
>  
> Hi simon. How are  you? Thanks so much for the steps. However, I can't find 
> it  at all! On my apple devices. I just went to iCloud  on my mac,and it says 
> it is off, but I can't only find tha teh two- factor authentication  on my  
> Mac, not on my my IOS  devices at all. And guess what, when I  presss  the 
> get  Two Factor authentication on my Mac, my Mac voiceover says you can't 
> activate two Factor authentication with this apple ID at this time? That is 
> very weird. I accidently try to activate two step verification and I can't 
> even activated since I change my apple ID account page infomration a lot. So 
> I can only activated in three days. Do you have any idea what's goin on? If 
> you want you are free to clal on facetime or skyep. I'm very new on this. You 
> may thing I'm crazy or soemthing! I look forward in hearing from you soon. 
> Thanks and God bless!
> 
>   Helga Schreiber 
> Group Moderator  
>  
>   for the IPad help for the blind 
>  
> ipadhelpfortheblind+subscr...@groups.io  
>  
> Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of Blind 
> Students.
> Member of the International Networkers Team (INT).
> Independent Entrepreneur of the Company 4Life Research.
> Phone:  (561) 706-5950 
> Email: helga.schreibe...@gmail.com 
> Skype: helga.schreiber26 
> 4Life Website: http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.aspx 
> INT Website: http://int4life.com/ 
>  
> "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever 
> believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16 
> Sent from my iPhone 6S running IOS 10
> 
> On Oct 6, 2016, at 3:15 AM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Helga,
>  
> Yes Under setting,
> Then icloud
> Then under your name / apple icloud details,
> Then click on password and then work your way down and you should find two 
> factor authentication
>  It’s not obvious  but ti’s there.
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Helga Schreiber
> Sent: Thursday, 6 October 2016 2:02 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googl

RE: Questions about Two-Factor authentication

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi Helga,

Are you actually already logged into iCloud?

When you go into settings,
Then find iCloud,
Under iCloud you should find your log in with your apple ID  / name and if you 
tap on this to open it you then scrole down to  password,
Tap on this to open it and then you should be able to scrole down to your two 
factor authentication and hope fully enable it.

If you have iCloud setup then when  will get prompted for your account password 
 which after entering the password will allow you in to the account area.

 Hopefully this will work for you this time?

Let us know how you get on.

Cheers,


Simon F

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Helga Schreiber
Sent: Thursday, 6 October 2016 8:29 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Questions about Two-Factor authentication

Hi simon. How are  you? Thanks so much for the steps. However, I can't find it  
at all! On my apple devices. I just went to iCloud  on my mac,and it says it is 
off, but I can't only find tha teh two- factor authentication  on my  Mac, not 
on my my IOS  devices at all. And guess what, when I  presss  the get  Two 
Factor authentication on my Mac, my Mac voiceover says you can't activate two 
Factor authentication with this apple ID at this time? That is very weird. I 
accidently try to activate two step verification and I can't even activated 
since I change my apple ID account page infomration a lot. So I can only 
activated in three days. Do you have any idea what's goin on? If you want you 
are free to clal on facetime or skyep. I'm very new on this. You may thing I'm 
crazy or soemthing! I look forward in hearing from you soon. Thanks and God 
bless!

  Helga Schreiber
Group Moderator

  for the IPad help for the blind

ipadhelpfortheblind+subscr...@groups.io<mailto:ipadhelpfortheblind+subscr...@groups.io>

Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of Blind 
Students.
Member of the International Networkers Team (INT).
Independent Entrepreneur of the Company 4Life Research.
Phone:  (561) 706-5950
Email: helga.schreibe...@gmail.com<mailto:helga.schreibe...@gmail.com>
Skype: helga.schreiber26
4Life Website: 
http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.as<http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.aspx>px
INT Website: http://int4life.com/

"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever 
believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16
Sent from my iPhone 6S running IOS 10

On Oct 6, 2016, at 3:15 AM, Simon Fogarty 
<si...@blinky-net.com<mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:
Hi Helga,

Yes Under setting,
Then icloud
Then under your name / apple icloud details,
Then click on password and then work your way down and you should find two 
factor authentication
 It’s not obvious  but ti’s there.

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Helga Schreiber
Sent: Thursday, 6 October 2016 2:02 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Questions about Two-Factor authentication

Hey Clifton. I go to settings, but when I go to my apple Id, I can't find in 
ordr to activate two-factor authentication. I can't only find password dn 
security, but it does tnot give em anything in order to activate two- factor 
authentication. I'm running IOS 10.0.2 on my iPhone 6S. I wil really appreciate 
ny help! I look forward in hering form you soon. Thanks and God bless!

  Helga Schreiber
Group Moderator

  for the IPad help for the blind

ipadhelpfortheblind+subscr...@groups.io<mailto:ipadhelpfortheblind+subscr...@groups.io>

Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of Blind 
Students.
Member of the International Networkers Team (INT).
Independent Entrepreneur of the Company 4Life Research.
Phone:  (561) 706-5950
Email: helga.schreibe...@gmail.com<mailto:helga.schreibe...@gmail.com>
Skype: helga.schreiber26
4Life Website: 
http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.as<http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.aspx>px
INT Website: http://int4life.com/

"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever 
believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16
Sent from my iPhone 6S running IOS 10

On Oct 5, 2016, at 8:02 PM, Kliphton Miller 
<kliph...@icloud.com<mailto:kliph...@icloud.com>> wrote:
Yes, the beta doesn’t matter.  Go to settings, iCloud, view apple ID, and open 
up security.  You will find it in there.  And yes, it is better because it uses 
your notification center to send you the code, instead of your phone number.

On Oct 5, 2016, at 8:00 PM, Helga Schreiber 
<helga.schreibe...@gmail.com<mailto:helga.schreibe...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi all! How are you all? So two-factor authentication in a 

Re: Questions about Two-Factor authentication

[Helga Schreiber]

Hi simon. How are  you? Thanks so much for the steps. However, I can't find it  
at all! On my apple devices. I just went to iCloud  on my mac,and it says it is 
off, but I can't only find tha teh two- factor authentication  on my  Mac, not 
on my my IOS  devices at all. And guess what, when I  presss  the get  Two 
Factor authentication on my Mac, my Mac voiceover says you can't activate two 
Factor authentication with this apple ID at this time? That is very weird. I 
accidently try to activate two step verification and I can't even activated 
since I change my apple ID account page infomration a lot. So I can only 
activated in three days. Do you have any idea what's goin on? If you want you 
are free to clal on facetime or skyep. I'm very new on this. You may thing I'm 
crazy or soemthing! I look forward in hearing from you soon. Thanks and God 
bless!

  Helga Schreiber 
Group Moderator  
 
  for the IPad help for the blind 
 
ipadhelpfortheblind+subscr...@groups.io  

Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of Blind 
Students.
Member of the International Networkers Team (INT).
Independent Entrepreneur of the Company 4Life Research.
Phone:  (561) 706-5950 
Email: helga.schreibe...@gmail.com 
Skype: helga.schreiber26 
4Life Website: http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.aspx 
INT Website: http://int4life.com/ 

"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever 
believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16 
Sent from my iPhone 6S running IOS 10

> On Oct 6, 2016, at 3:15 AM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Helga,
>  
> Yes Under setting,
> Then icloud
> Then under your name / apple icloud details,
> Then click on password and then work your way down and you should find two 
> factor authentication 
>  It’s not obvious  but ti’s there.
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Helga Schreiber
> Sent: Thursday, 6 October 2016 2:02 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Questions about Two-Factor authentication
>  
> Hey Clifton. I go to settings, but when I go to my apple Id, I can't find in 
> ordr to activate two-factor authentication. I can't only find password dn 
> security, but it does tnot give em anything in order to activate two- factor 
> authentication. I'm running IOS 10.0.2 on my iPhone 6S. I wil really 
> appreciate ny help! I look forward in hering form you soon. Thanks and God 
> bless!
> 
>   Helga Schreiber 
> Group Moderator  
>  
>   for the IPad help for the blind 
>  
> ipadhelpfortheblind+subscr...@groups.io  
>  
> Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of Blind 
> Students.
> Member of the International Networkers Team (INT).
> Independent Entrepreneur of the Company 4Life Research.
> Phone:  (561) 706-5950 
> Email: helga.schreibe...@gmail.com 
> Skype: helga.schreiber26 
> 4Life Website: http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.aspx 
> INT Website: http://int4life.com/ 
>  
> "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever 
> believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16 
> Sent from my iPhone 6S running IOS 10
> 
> On Oct 5, 2016, at 8:02 PM, Kliphton Miller <kliph...@icloud.com> wrote:
> 
> Yes, the beta doesn’t matter.  Go to settings, iCloud, view apple ID, and 
> open up security.  You will find it in there.  And yes, it is better because 
> it uses your notification center to send you the code, instead of your phone 
> number.
>  
> On Oct 5, 2016, at 8:00 PM, Helga Schreiber <helga.schreibe...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
>  
> Hi all! How are you all? So two-factor authentication in a way is good right? 
> How do I activated? And And now I'm running teh beta of IOS 10 in one of my 
> devices, will the two factor authentication work even if I'm running the beta 
> in on eof my IOS devices? just wondering. I look forwrd in hearing from 
> yousooon. Thanks and God bless!
> 
>   Helga Schreiber 
> Group Moderator  
>  
>   for the IPad help for the blind 
>  
> ipadhelpfortheblind+subscr...@groups.io  
>  
> Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of Blind 
> Students.
> Member of the International Networkers Team (INT).
> Independent Entrepreneur of the Company 4Life Research.
> Phone:  (561) 706-5950 
> Email: helga.schreibe...@gmail.com 
> Skype: helga.schreiber26 
> 4Life Website: http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.aspx 
> INT Website: http://int4life.com/ 
>  
> "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever 
> believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.&

RE: Questions about Two-Factor authentication

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi Helga,

Yes Under setting,
Then icloud
Then under your name / apple icloud details,
Then click on password and then work your way down and you should find two 
factor authentication
 It’s not obvious  but ti’s there.

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Helga Schreiber
Sent: Thursday, 6 October 2016 2:02 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Questions about Two-Factor authentication

Hey Clifton. I go to settings, but when I go to my apple Id, I can't find in 
ordr to activate two-factor authentication. I can't only find password dn 
security, but it does tnot give em anything in order to activate two- factor 
authentication. I'm running IOS 10.0.2 on my iPhone 6S. I wil really appreciate 
ny help! I look forward in hering form you soon. Thanks and God bless!

  Helga Schreiber
Group Moderator

  for the IPad help for the blind

ipadhelpfortheblind+subscr...@groups.io<mailto:ipadhelpfortheblind+subscr...@groups.io>

Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of Blind 
Students.
Member of the International Networkers Team (INT).
Independent Entrepreneur of the Company 4Life Research.
Phone:  (561) 706-5950
Email: helga.schreibe...@gmail.com<mailto:helga.schreibe...@gmail.com>
Skype: helga.schreiber26
4Life Website: 
http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.as<http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.aspx>px
INT Website: http://int4life.com/

"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever 
believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16
Sent from my iPhone 6S running IOS 10

On Oct 5, 2016, at 8:02 PM, Kliphton Miller 
<kliph...@icloud.com<mailto:kliph...@icloud.com>> wrote:
Yes, the beta doesn’t matter.  Go to settings, iCloud, view apple ID, and open 
up security.  You will find it in there.  And yes, it is better because it uses 
your notification center to send you the code, instead of your phone number.

On Oct 5, 2016, at 8:00 PM, Helga Schreiber 
<helga.schreibe...@gmail.com<mailto:helga.schreibe...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi all! How are you all? So two-factor authentication in a way is good right? 
How do I activated? And And now I'm running teh beta of IOS 10 in one of my 
devices, will the two factor authentication work even if I'm running the beta 
in on eof my IOS devices? just wondering. I look forwrd in hearing from 
yousooon. Thanks and God bless!

  Helga Schreiber
Group Moderator

  for the IPad help for the blind

ipadhelpfortheblind+subscr...@groups.io<mailto:ipadhelpfortheblind+subscr...@groups.io>

Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of Blind 
Students.
Member of the International Networkers Team (INT).
Independent Entrepreneur of the Company 4Life Research.
Phone:  (561) 706-5950
Email: helga.schreibe...@gmail.com<mailto:helga.schreibe...@gmail.com>
Skype: helga.schreiber26
4Life Website: 
http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.as<http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.aspx>px
INT Website: http://int4life.com/

"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever 
believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16
Sent from my iPhone 6S running IOS 10

On Oct 5, 2016, at 6:49 PM, Faisal ali 
<faisal.a...@icloud.com<mailto:faisal.a...@icloud.com>> wrote:
As I was saying, my only other device that would have the code sent to is my 
mac, which I am not going to always on hand if I am out travelling for example 
so I don’t know if I will ever be turning this on.

On Oct 3, 2016, at 1:54 PM, christopher hallsworth 
<challswor...@icloud.com<mailto:challswor...@icloud.com>> wrote:

Ok so two factor authentication uses both your password and a code sent to one 
of your trusted devices to sign into your Apple ID from a new device, to make 
changes to your Apple ID over at
appleid.apple.com<http://appleid.apple.com/>
or you use the services over at
www.icloud.com<http://www.icloud.com/>
this replaces the security questions you are asked for when two factor 
authentication is turned off. With both the password and a unique code being 
required to sign in, this protects the data on your account, as well as your 
account overall, from being compromised.




On 3 Oct 2016, at 07:49, Helga Schreiber 
<helga.schreibe...@gmail.com<mailto:helga.schreibe...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi all! How are you all? I heard about two-factor authentication guys.  My 
questions are, what is two-factor authentication? And what is for? And how do I 
activated? I'm just wondering. I look forward in hearing form you soon. Thanks 
and God bless!

Helga Schreiber
Group Moderator

for the IPad help for the blind

ipadhelpfortheblind+subscr...@groups.io<mailto:ipadhelpfortheblind+subscr...@groups.io>

Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of Bl

Questions about Two-Factor Authentication and Two Step verification

[Helga Schreiber]

Hi all! How are you all? So I wanted  to activate two- factor authentication, 
but I can't find turn on two-Factor authentication on my icloud settings after 
signing  in  to my apple ID.  I really  don't know why guys! Do  you have any 
idea why? Does that mean that  i have  it activated? Just wondering. So since I 
did not know if I have  it or not, I logging to my apple Id manage account,and 
I tried to activate to step verification, adn I manage to do it, but I can't 
activated untill threedays since I make a lot of changes to my appple ID  
account page. I actually thought that two- factor authentication and two step 
verification are teh same, that is why I logging to my apple ID page LOL, oh, 
well.  How can I check that I hve my two- factor authentication on? Just 
wondering. Do any of you use two- factor authentication adn two step 
verification at the same time in your devices? I'm so new to this. However, I 
do want to have mor security in my appple devices. I look forward in hearing 
from you soon. Thanks and God bless! 

  Helga Schreiber 
Group Moderator  
 
  for the IPad help for the blind 
 
ipadhelpfortheblind+subscr...@groups.io  

Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of Blind 
Students.
Member of the International Networkers Team (INT).
Independent Entrepreneur of the Company 4Life Research.
Phone:  (561) 706-5950 
Email: helga.schreibe...@gmail.com 
Skype: helga.schreiber26 
4Life Website: http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.aspx 
INT Website: http://int4life.com/ 

"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever 
believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16 
Sent from my iPhone 6S running IOS 10

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Re: Questions about Two-Factor authentication

[Helga Schreiber]

Hey Clifton. I go to settings, but when I go to my apple Id, I can't find in 
ordr to activate two-factor authentication. I can't only find password dn 
security, but it does tnot give em anything in order to activate two- factor 
authentication. I'm running IOS 10.0.2 on my iPhone 6S. I wil really appreciate 
ny help! I look forward in hering form you soon. Thanks and God bless!

  Helga Schreiber 
Group Moderator  
 
  for the IPad help for the blind 
 
ipadhelpfortheblind+subscr...@groups.io  

Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of Blind 
Students.
Member of the International Networkers Team (INT).
Independent Entrepreneur of the Company 4Life Research.
Phone:  (561) 706-5950 
Email: helga.schreibe...@gmail.com 
Skype: helga.schreiber26 
4Life Website: http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.aspx 
INT Website: http://int4life.com/ 

"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever 
believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16 
Sent from my iPhone 6S running IOS 10

> On Oct 5, 2016, at 8:02 PM, Kliphton Miller <kliph...@icloud.com> wrote:
> 
> Yes, the beta doesn’t matter.  Go to settings, iCloud, view apple ID, and 
> open up security.  You will find it in there.  And yes, it is better because 
> it uses your notification center to send you the code, instead of your phone 
> number.
> 
>> On Oct 5, 2016, at 8:00 PM, Helga Schreiber <helga.schreibe...@gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all! How are you all? So two-factor authentication in a way is good 
>> right? How do I activated? And And now I'm running teh beta of IOS 10 in one 
>> of my devices, will the two factor authentication work even if I'm running 
>> the beta in on eof my IOS devices? just wondering. I look forwrd in hearing 
>> from yousooon. Thanks and God bless!
>> 
>>   Helga Schreiber 
>> Group Moderator  
>>  
>>   for the IPad help for the blind 
>>  
>> ipadhelpfortheblind+subscr...@groups.io  
>> 
>> Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of Blind 
>> Students.
>> Member of the International Networkers Team (INT).
>> Independent Entrepreneur of the Company 4Life Research.
>> Phone:  (561) 706-5950 
>> Email: helga.schreibe...@gmail.com 
>> Skype: helga.schreiber26 
>> 4Life Website: http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.aspx 
>> INT Website: http://int4life.com/ 
>> 
>> "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever 
>> believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16 
>> Sent from my iPhone 6S running IOS 10
>> 
>>> On Oct 5, 2016, at 6:49 PM, Faisal ali <faisal.a...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> As I was saying, my only other device that would have the code sent to is 
>>> my mac, which I am not going to always on hand if I am out travelling for 
>>> example so I don’t know if I will ever be turning this on.
>>>> On Oct 3, 2016, at 1:54 PM, christopher hallsworth 
>>>> <challswor...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Ok so two factor authentication uses both your password and a code sent to 
>>>> one of your trusted devices to sign into your Apple ID from a new device, 
>>>> to make changes to your Apple ID over at
>>>> appleid.apple.com
>>>> or you use the services over at
>>>> www.icloud.com
>>>> this replaces the security questions you are asked for when two factor 
>>>> authentication is turned off. With both the password and a unique code 
>>>> being required to sign in, this protects the data on your account, as well 
>>>> as your account overall, from being compromised.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 3 Oct 2016, at 07:49, Helga Schreiber <helga.schreibe...@gmail.com> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi all! How are you all? I heard about two-factor authentication guys.  
>>>>> My questions are, what is two-factor authentication? And what is for? And 
>>>>> how do I activated? I'm just wondering. I look forward in hearing form 
>>>>> you soon. Thanks and God bless!
>>>>> 
>>>>> Helga Schreiber 
>>>>> Group Moderator  
>>>>> 
>>>>> for the IPad help for the blind 
>>>>> 
>>>>> ipadhelpfortheblind+subscr...@groups.io  
>>>>> 
>>>>> Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of 
>>>>> Blind Stud

Re: Questions about Two-Factor authentication

[Helga Schreiber]

Hey Clifton. I'm planning in getting an iPhone 7 at teh end of this month, so 
it wil ask me for it in ordr to activate it right? I hve a question, does 
anyone know a emil list that I can join in ordr to talk about beta and so on? I 
don't know of one! I will really appreciate it a lot if anyone can give me one 
of it. I look forward in hearing from you soon. Thanks adn God bless!H

  Helga Schreiber 
Group Moderator  
 
  for the IPad help for the blind 
 
ipadhelpfortheblind+subscr...@groups.io  

Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of Blind 
Students.
Member of the International Networkers Team (INT).
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Email: helga.schreibe...@gmail.com 
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"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever 
believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16 
Sent from my iPhone 6S running IOS 10

> On Oct 5, 2016, at 8:02 PM, Kliphton Miller <kliph...@icloud.com> wrote:
> 
> Yes, the beta doesn’t matter.  Go to settings, iCloud, view apple ID, and 
> open up security.  You will find it in there.  And yes, it is better because 
> it uses your notification center to send you the code, instead of your phone 
> number.
> 
>> On Oct 5, 2016, at 8:00 PM, Helga Schreiber <helga.schreibe...@gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all! How are you all? So two-factor authentication in a way is good 
>> right? How do I activated? And And now I'm running teh beta of IOS 10 in one 
>> of my devices, will the two factor authentication work even if I'm running 
>> the beta in on eof my IOS devices? just wondering. I look forwrd in hearing 
>> from yousooon. Thanks and God bless!
>> 
>>   Helga Schreiber 
>> Group Moderator  
>>  
>>   for the IPad help for the blind 
>>  
>> ipadhelpfortheblind+subscr...@groups.io  
>> 
>> Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of Blind 
>> Students.
>> Member of the International Networkers Team (INT).
>> Independent Entrepreneur of the Company 4Life Research.
>> Phone:  (561) 706-5950 
>> Email: helga.schreibe...@gmail.com 
>> Skype: helga.schreiber26 
>> 4Life Website: http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.aspx 
>> INT Website: http://int4life.com/ 
>> 
>> "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever 
>> believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16 
>> Sent from my iPhone 6S running IOS 10
>> 
>>> On Oct 5, 2016, at 6:49 PM, Faisal ali <faisal.a...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> As I was saying, my only other device that would have the code sent to is 
>>> my mac, which I am not going to always on hand if I am out travelling for 
>>> example so I don’t know if I will ever be turning this on.
>>>> On Oct 3, 2016, at 1:54 PM, christopher hallsworth 
>>>> <challswor...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Ok so two factor authentication uses both your password and a code sent to 
>>>> one of your trusted devices to sign into your Apple ID from a new device, 
>>>> to make changes to your Apple ID over at
>>>> appleid.apple.com
>>>> or you use the services over at
>>>> www.icloud.com
>>>> this replaces the security questions you are asked for when two factor 
>>>> authentication is turned off. With both the password and a unique code 
>>>> being required to sign in, this protects the data on your account, as well 
>>>> as your account overall, from being compromised.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 3 Oct 2016, at 07:49, Helga Schreiber <helga.schreibe...@gmail.com> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi all! How are you all? I heard about two-factor authentication guys.  
>>>>> My questions are, what is two-factor authentication? And what is for? And 
>>>>> how do I activated? I'm just wondering. I look forward in hearing form 
>>>>> you soon. Thanks and God bless!
>>>>> 
>>>>> Helga Schreiber 
>>>>> Group Moderator  
>>>>> 
>>>>> for the IPad help for the blind 
>>>>> 
>>>>> ipadhelpfortheblind+subscr...@groups.io  
>>>>> 
>>>>> Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of 
>>>>> Blind Stud

Re: Questions about Two-Factor authentication

[Kliphton Miller]

Yes, the beta doesn’t matter.  Go to settings, iCloud, view apple ID, and open 
up security.  You will find it in there.  And yes, it is better because it uses 
your notification center to send you the code, instead of your phone number.

> On Oct 5, 2016, at 8:00 PM, Helga Schreiber <helga.schreibe...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Hi all! How are you all? So two-factor authentication in a way is good right? 
> How do I activated? And And now I'm running teh beta of IOS 10 in one of my 
> devices, will the two factor authentication work even if I'm running the beta 
> in on eof my IOS devices? just wondering. I look forwrd in hearing from 
> yousooon. Thanks and God bless!
> 
>   Helga Schreiber 
> Group Moderator  
>  
>   for the IPad help for the blind 
>  
> ipadhelpfortheblind+subscr...@groups.io 
> <mailto:ipadhelpfortheblind+subscr...@groups.io>  
> 
> Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of Blind 
> Students.
> Member of the International Networkers Team (INT).
> Independent Entrepreneur of the Company 4Life Research.
> Phone:  (561) 706-5950 
> Email: helga.schreibe...@gmail.com <mailto:helga.schreibe...@gmail.com> 
> Skype: helga.schreiber26 
> 4Life Website: http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.as 
> <http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.aspx>px 
> INT Website: http://int4life.com/ <http://int4life.com/> 
> 
> "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever 
> believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16 
> Sent from my iPhone 6S running IOS 10
> 
> On Oct 5, 2016, at 6:49 PM, Faisal ali <faisal.a...@icloud.com 
> <mailto:faisal.a...@icloud.com>> wrote:
> 
>> As I was saying, my only other device that would have the code sent to is my 
>> mac, which I am not going to always on hand if I am out travelling for 
>> example so I don’t know if I will ever be turning this on.
>>> On Oct 3, 2016, at 1:54 PM, christopher hallsworth <challswor...@icloud.com 
>>> <mailto:challswor...@icloud.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Ok so two factor authentication uses both your password and a code sent to 
>>> one of your trusted devices to sign into your Apple ID from a new device, 
>>> to make changes to your Apple ID over at
>>> appleid.apple.com <http://appleid.apple.com/>
>>> or you use the services over at
>>> www.icloud.com <http://www.icloud.com/>
>>> this replaces the security questions you are asked for when two factor 
>>> authentication is turned off. With both the password and a unique code 
>>> being required to sign in, this protects the data on your account, as well 
>>> as your account overall, from being compromised.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 3 Oct 2016, at 07:49, Helga Schreiber <helga.schreibe...@gmail.com 
>>>> <mailto:helga.schreibe...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi all! How are you all? I heard about two-factor authentication guys.  My 
>>>> questions are, what is two-factor authentication? And what is for? And how 
>>>> do I activated? I'm just wondering. I look forward in hearing form you 
>>>> soon. Thanks and God bless!
>>>> 
>>>> Helga Schreiber 
>>>> Group Moderator  
>>>> 
>>>> for the IPad help for the blind 
>>>> 
>>>> ipadhelpfortheblind+subscr...@groups.io 
>>>> <mailto:ipadhelpfortheblind+subscr...@groups.io>  
>>>> 
>>>> Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of 
>>>> Blind Students.
>>>> Member of the International Networkers Team (INT).
>>>> Independent Entrepreneur of the Company 4Life Research.
>>>> Phone:  (561) 706-5950 
>>>> Email: helga.schreibe...@gmail.com <mailto:helga.schreibe...@gmail.com> 
>>>> Skype: helga.schreiber26 
>>>> 4Life Website: http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.aspx 
>>>> <http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.aspx> 
>>>> INT Website: http://int4life.com/ <http://int4life.com/> 
>>>> 
>>>> "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that 
>>>> whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone 6S running IOS 10
>>>> 
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Re: Questions about Two-Factor authentication

[Helga Schreiber]

Hi all! How are you all? So two-factor authentication in a way is good right? 
How do I activated? And And now I'm running teh beta of IOS 10 in one of my 
devices, will the two factor authentication work even if I'm running the beta 
in on eof my IOS devices? just wondering. I look forwrd in hearing from 
yousooon. Thanks and God bless!

  Helga Schreiber 
Group Moderator  
 
  for the IPad help for the blind 
 
ipadhelpfortheblind+subscr...@groups.io  

Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of Blind 
Students.
Member of the International Networkers Team (INT).
Independent Entrepreneur of the Company 4Life Research.
Phone:  (561) 706-5950 
Email: helga.schreibe...@gmail.com 
Skype: helga.schreiber26 
4Life Website: http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.aspx 
INT Website: http://int4life.com/ 

"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever 
believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16 
Sent from my iPhone 6S running IOS 10

> On Oct 5, 2016, at 6:49 PM, Faisal ali <faisal.a...@icloud.com> wrote:
> 
> As I was saying, my only other device that would have the code sent to is my 
> mac, which I am not going to always on hand if I am out travelling for 
> example so I don’t know if I will ever be turning this on.
>> On Oct 3, 2016, at 1:54 PM, christopher hallsworth <challswor...@icloud.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Ok so two factor authentication uses both your password and a code sent to 
>> one of your trusted devices to sign into your Apple ID from a new device, to 
>> make changes to your Apple ID over at
>> appleid.apple.com
>> or you use the services over at
>> www.icloud.com
>> this replaces the security questions you are asked for when two factor 
>> authentication is turned off. With both the password and a unique code being 
>> required to sign in, this protects the data on your account, as well as your 
>> account overall, from being compromised.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 3 Oct 2016, at 07:49, Helga Schreiber <helga.schreibe...@gmail.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all! How are you all? I heard about two-factor authentication guys.  My 
>>> questions are, what is two-factor authentication? And what is for? And how 
>>> do I activated? I'm just wondering. I look forward in hearing form you 
>>> soon. Thanks and God bless!
>>> 
>>> Helga Schreiber 
>>> Group Moderator  
>>> 
>>> for the IPad help for the blind 
>>> 
>>> ipadhelpfortheblind+subscr...@groups.io
>>> 
>>> Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of Blind 
>>> Students.
>>> Member of the International Networkers Team (INT).
>>> Independent Entrepreneur of the Company 4Life Research.
>>> Phone:  (561) 706-5950 
>>> Email: helga.schreibe...@gmail.com 
>>> Skype: helga.schreiber26 
>>> 4Life Website: http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.aspx 
>>> INT Website: http://int4life.com/ 
>>> 
>>> "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever 
>>> believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16 
>>> Sent from my iPhone 6S running IOS 10
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Re: Questions about Two-Factor authentication

[Faisal ali]

As I was saying, my only other device that would have the code sent to is my 
mac, which I am not going to always on hand if I am out travelling for example 
so I don’t know if I will ever be turning this on.
> On Oct 3, 2016, at 1:54 PM, christopher hallsworth <challswor...@icloud.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Ok so two factor authentication uses both your password and a code sent to 
> one of your trusted devices to sign into your Apple ID from a new device, to 
> make changes to your Apple ID over at
> appleid.apple.com
> or you use the services over at
> www.icloud.com
> this replaces the security questions you are asked for when two factor 
> authentication is turned off. With both the password and a unique code being 
> required to sign in, this protects the data on your account, as well as your 
> account overall, from being compromised.
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 3 Oct 2016, at 07:49, Helga Schreiber <helga.schreibe...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all! How are you all? I heard about two-factor authentication guys.  My 
>> questions are, what is two-factor authentication? And what is for? And how 
>> do I activated? I'm just wondering. I look forward in hearing form you soon. 
>> Thanks and God bless!
>> 
>>  Helga Schreiber 
>> Group Moderator  
>> 
>>  for the IPad help for the blind 
>> 
>> ipadhelpfortheblind+subscr...@groups.io  
>> 
>> Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of Blind 
>> Students.
>> Member of the International Networkers Team (INT).
>> Independent Entrepreneur of the Company 4Life Research.
>> Phone:  (561) 706-5950 
>> Email: helga.schreibe...@gmail.com 
>> Skype: helga.schreiber26 
>> 4Life Website: http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.aspx 
>> INT Website: http://int4life.com/ 
>> 
>> "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever 
>> believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16 
>> Sent from my iPhone 6S running IOS 10
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Re: Questions about Two-Factor authentication

[christopher hallsworth]

Ok so two factor authentication uses both your password and a code sent to one 
of your trusted devices to sign into your Apple ID from a new device, to make 
changes to your Apple ID over at
appleid.apple.com
or you use the services over at
www.icloud.com
this replaces the security questions you are asked for when two factor 
authentication is turned off. With both the password and a unique code being 
required to sign in, this protects the data on your account, as well as your 
account overall, from being compromised.




> On 3 Oct 2016, at 07:49, Helga Schreiber <helga.schreibe...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi all! How are you all? I heard about two-factor authentication guys.  My 
> questions are, what is two-factor authentication? And what is for? And how do 
> I activated? I'm just wondering. I look forward in hearing form you soon. 
> Thanks and God bless!
> 
>   Helga Schreiber 
> Group Moderator  
>  
>   for the IPad help for the blind 
>  
> ipadhelpfortheblind+subscr...@groups.io  
> 
> Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of Blind 
> Students.
> Member of the International Networkers Team (INT).
> Independent Entrepreneur of the Company 4Life Research.
> Phone:  (561) 706-5950 
> Email: helga.schreibe...@gmail.com 
> Skype: helga.schreiber26 
> 4Life Website: http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.aspx 
> INT Website: http://int4life.com/ 
> 
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> believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16 
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Re: Questions about Two-Factor authentication

[Daniel C]

I think as long as you have the code sent to a device, apple  or otherwise, it 
should not matter.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 3, 2016, at 07:35, Faisal ali <faisal.a...@icloud.com> wrote:
> 
> I also had a question about that. From what I know, it sends a code to 
> another device that you have logged in with your apple ID. you then enter 
> that code into what ever is asking to you authenticate for it to work. 
> However, the only apple devices I have are my mac and iPhone. If I am not at 
> home, and want to install a new app and it is asking for a code, would I be 
> out of luck since my only other apple device is not on hand?
> 
>> On Oct 3, 2016, at 2:49 AM, Helga Schreiber <helga.schreibe...@gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all! How are you all? I heard about two-factor authentication guys.  My 
>> questions are, what is two-factor authentication? And what is for? And how 
>> do I activated? I'm just wondering. I look forward in hearing form you soon. 
>> Thanks and God bless!
>> 
>>   Helga Schreiber 
>> Group Moderator  
>>  
>>   for the IPad help for the blind 
>>  
>> ipadhelpfortheblind+subscr...@groups.io  
>> 
>> Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of Blind 
>> Students.
>> Member of the International Networkers Team (INT).
>> Independent Entrepreneur of the Company 4Life Research.
>> Phone:  (561) 706-5950 
>> Email: helga.schreibe...@gmail.com 
>> Skype: helga.schreiber26 
>> 4Life Website: http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.aspx 
>> INT Website: http://int4life.com/ 
>> 
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Re: Questions about Two-Factor authentication

[Faisal ali]

I also had a question about that. From what I know, it sends a code to another 
device that you have logged in with your apple ID. you then enter that code 
into what ever is asking to you authenticate for it to work. However, the only 
apple devices I have are my mac and iPhone. If I am not at home, and want to 
install a new app and it is asking for a code, would I be out of luck since my 
only other apple device is not on hand?

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> questions are, what is two-factor authentication? And what is for? And how do 
> I activated? I'm just wondering. I look forward in hearing form you soon. 
> Thanks and God bless!
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Questions about Two-Factor authentication

[Helga Schreiber]

Hi all! How are you all? I heard about two-factor authentication guys.  My 
questions are, what is two-factor authentication? And what is for? And how do I 
activated? I'm just wondering. I look forward in hearing form you soon. Thanks 
and God bless!

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Is there a bug in two-factor authentication?

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

Hello.

I have had some help with Two-factor authentication and each time I request a 
code, I don’t get text messages sent to my trusted device unless I press 
‘didn’t get a security code’ then I can choose to have it sent to me as text 
message.  Before when I was using Two step Verification, this happened 
automatically.  Is this happening for anyone else?  If it is or it is not, let 
me know and if there is a bug, please ask Apple to fix it in their new OS 
coming out in the fall.

Many thanks.

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RE: Two Factor Authentication Not an Option?

[Simon Fogarty]

Yeah I’ve used applied.apple.com

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On Behalf Of Alex Hall
Sent: Sunday, 10 July 2016 1:20 AM
To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Two Factor Authentication Not an Option?

No, the website is appleid.apple.com<http://appleid.apple.com>. Then, on your 
iOS device, open Settings, go to iCloud, tap on your account name, and proceed 
from there as described.
On Jul 9, 2016, at 05:42, Simon Fogarty 
<si...@blinky-net.com<mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Iclouds accessible? Last time I looked at it the accessibility was poo

But thanks I”ll give that a look



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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Hall
Sent: Saturday, 9 July 2016 2:16 PM
To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
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Subject: Re: Two Factor Authentication Not an Option?

You must first go to appleid.apple.com<http://appleid.apple.com/> > security 
and turn off two step verification, if you have it on. Then, after you've made 
three security questions (part of disabling two step verification), go to your 
iPhone > settings > iCloud. Tap the button named for your account username, 
enter the password, and tap two factor authentication. That's if you can find 
it.
On Jul 8, 2016, at 06:49, Simon Fogarty 
<si...@blinky-net.com<mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

My iPHone has two factor authentication?

Where abouts is it I shoud be looking for this?

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Hall
Sent: Friday, 8 July 2016 2:36 PM
To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
<macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Two Factor Authentication Not an Option?

Hi all,
My sister had to turn off two step verification on her ID months ago so she 
could sign into the Apple TV 3. However, she went to turn on two factor 
authentication today, at my urging, but it's not anywhere. She has El Cap, 
iOS9, and watchOS2. Yet neither on the Mac, web, or iPhone is 2FA an option at 
all. It's not that it's dimmed, it's literally not there in any way. I enabled 
it on my account with no trouble, although I'm on iOS10. Still, all the 
articles I've read--including Apple's own--say to do exactly what I did. Why 
hers isn't working is beyond me. Anyone have any ideas? Thanks.

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Re: Two Factor Authentication Not an Option?

[Alex Hall]

No, the website is appleid.apple.com. Then, on your iOS device, open Settings, 
go to iCloud, tap on your account name, and proceed from there as described.
> On Jul 9, 2016, at 05:42, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
> 
> Iclouds accessible? Last time I looked at it the accessibility was poo
>  
> But thanks I”ll give that a look
>  
>  
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Hall
> Sent: Saturday, 9 July 2016 2:16 PM
> To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: Two Factor Authentication Not an Option?
>  
> You must first go to appleid.apple.com <http://appleid.apple.com/> > security 
> and turn off two step verification, if you have it on. Then, after you've 
> made three security questions (part of disabling two step verification), go 
> to your iPhone > settings > iCloud. Tap the button named for your account 
> username, enter the password, and tap two factor authentication. That's if 
> you can find it.
> On Jul 8, 2016, at 06:49, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com 
> <mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:
>  
> My iPHone has two factor authentication?
>  
> Where abouts is it I shoud be looking for this?
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
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> To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
> Subject: Two Factor Authentication Not an Option?
>  
> Hi all,
> My sister had to turn off two step verification on her ID months ago so she 
> could sign into the Apple TV 3. However, she went to turn on two factor 
> authentication today, at my urging, but it's not anywhere. She has El Cap, 
> iOS9, and watchOS2. Yet neither on the Mac, web, or iPhone is 2FA an option 
> at all. It's not that it's dimmed, it's literally not there in any way. I 
> enabled it on my account with no trouble, although I'm on iOS10. Still, all 
> the articles I've read--including Apple's own--say to do exactly what I did. 
> Why hers isn't working is beyond me. Anyone have any ideas? Thanks.
> 
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RE: Two Factor Authentication Not an Option?

[Simon Fogarty]

Iclouds accessible? Last time I looked at it the accessibility was poo

But thanks I”ll give that a look



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On Behalf Of Alex Hall
Sent: Saturday, 9 July 2016 2:16 PM
To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Two Factor Authentication Not an Option?

You must first go to appleid.apple.com<http://appleid.apple.com> > security and 
turn off two step verification, if you have it on. Then, after you've made 
three security questions (part of disabling two step verification), go to your 
iPhone > settings > iCloud. Tap the button named for your account username, 
enter the password, and tap two factor authentication. That's if you can find 
it.
On Jul 8, 2016, at 06:49, Simon Fogarty 
<si...@blinky-net.com<mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

My iPHone has two factor authentication?

Where abouts is it I shoud be looking for this?

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Hall
Sent: Friday, 8 July 2016 2:36 PM
To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
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Subject: Two Factor Authentication Not an Option?

Hi all,
My sister had to turn off two step verification on her ID months ago so she 
could sign into the Apple TV 3. However, she went to turn on two factor 
authentication today, at my urging, but it's not anywhere. She has El Cap, 
iOS9, and watchOS2. Yet neither on the Mac, web, or iPhone is 2FA an option at 
all. It's not that it's dimmed, it's literally not there in any way. I enabled 
it on my account with no trouble, although I'm on iOS10. Still, all the 
articles I've read--including Apple's own--say to do exactly what I did. Why 
hers isn't working is beyond me. Anyone have any ideas? Thanks.

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Re: Two Factor Authentication Not an Option?

[Alex Hall]

You must first go to appleid.apple.com > security and turn off two step 
verification, if you have it on. Then, after you've made three security 
questions (part of disabling two step verification), go to your iPhone > 
settings > iCloud. Tap the button named for your account username, enter the 
password, and tap two factor authentication. That's if you can find it.
> On Jul 8, 2016, at 06:49, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
> 
> My iPHone has two factor authentication?
>  
> Where abouts is it I shoud be looking for this?
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Hall
> Sent: Friday, 8 July 2016 2:36 PM
> To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Two Factor Authentication Not an Option?
>  
> Hi all,
> My sister had to turn off two step verification on her ID months ago so she 
> could sign into the Apple TV 3. However, she went to turn on two factor 
> authentication today, at my urging, but it's not anywhere. She has El Cap, 
> iOS9, and watchOS2. Yet neither on the Mac, web, or iPhone is 2FA an option 
> at all. It's not that it's dimmed, it's literally not there in any way. I 
> enabled it on my account with no trouble, although I'm on iOS10. Still, all 
> the articles I've read--including Apple's own--say to do exactly what I did. 
> Why hers isn't working is beyond me. Anyone have any ideas? Thanks.
> 
> --
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> mehg...@icloud.com <mailto:mehg...@icloud.com>
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RE: Two Factor Authentication Not an Option?

[Simon Fogarty]

My iPHone has two factor authentication?

Where abouts is it I shoud be looking for this?

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Subject: Two Factor Authentication Not an Option?

Hi all,
My sister had to turn off two step verification on her ID months ago so she 
could sign into the Apple TV 3. However, she went to turn on two factor 
authentication today, at my urging, but it's not anywhere. She has El Cap, 
iOS9, and watchOS2. Yet neither on the Mac, web, or iPhone is 2FA an option at 
all. It's not that it's dimmed, it's literally not there in any way. I enabled 
it on my account with no trouble, although I'm on iOS10. Still, all the 
articles I've read--including Apple's own--say to do exactly what I did. Why 
hers isn't working is beyond me. Anyone have any ideas? Thanks.

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Two Factor Authentication Not an Option?

[Alex Hall]

Hi all,
My sister had to turn off two step verification on her ID months ago so she 
could sign into the Apple TV 3. However, she went to turn on two factor 
authentication today, at my urging, but it's not anywhere. She has El Cap, 
iOS9, and watchOS2. Yet neither on the Mac, web, or iPhone is 2FA an option at 
all. It's not that it's dimmed, it's literally not there in any way. I enabled 
it on my account with no trouble, although I'm on iOS10. Still, all the 
articles I've read--including Apple's own--say to do exactly what I did. Why 
hers isn't working is beyond me. Anyone have any ideas? Thanks.

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The dark side of Apple's two-factor authentication

[M. Taylor]

Hello Everyone,

I strongly suggest that you read the following article, very carefully.  

The link to the original post may be found at the end of the text.

Mark

The dark side of Apple's two-factor authentication

Earlier this week, a strange message popped up on my Mac that I thought
nothing of. You can't sign in because your account was disabled for
security reasons. I dismissed it in my tired haze, thinking it would solve
itself and went to sleep.

The next morning, I didn't have time to deal with the message - which was
now popping up every half hour - for a few hours until it became annoying. I
figured I'd done something dumb and broken iCloud, but that it could wait.

I'd turned two-factor on my Apple ID in haste when I read Mat Honan's
harrowing story about how his Mac, iPhone and other devices were wiped when
someone broke into his iCloud account. That terrified me into thinking about
real security for the first time.

When I finally had time to investigate the errors appearing on my machine, I
discovered that not only had my iCloud account been locked, but someone had
tried to break in. Two-factor had done its job and kept the attacker out,
however, it had also inadvertently locked me out.

The Apple support page relating to lockouts assured me it would be easy to
recover my account with a combination of any two of either my password, a
trusted device or the two-factor recovery key.

When I headed to the account recovery service, dubbed iForgot, I discovered
that there was no way back in without my recovery key. That's when it hit
me; I had no idea where my recovery key was or if I'd ever even put the
piece of paper in a safe place. I've moved since I set up two-factor on
iCloud.

I began nervously scouring the entire house for the code, before giving up
after a few frustrating hours and began searching my computer for any trace
of it. I found countless recovery keys but they weren't for the right
things; for my Mac's hard-drive encryption, Twitter, Facebook and other
accounts, but not for my Apple ID.

How could I be foolish enough to misplace my Apple ID recovery key?
I swore that I'd taken a screenshot, printed it and had taken a photo of it
with my iPhone for extra safekeeping.

This is when it began to sink in that this single ID held the keys to much
of my digital life; everything from iTunes purchases going back seven years,
app purchases and even the ability to get my iPhone out of the grips of Find
my iPhone's lock.

The sinking feeling began. After fruitlessly searching and a lot of cussing,
I decided to call Apple. I figured that something must be wrong, since the
support page claims you can use trusted devices to recover your ID in cases
like this.

The first person I spoke to told me immediately after getting on the phone
that in no uncertain terms I had forfeit my Apple ID by losing the recovery
key. He refused to help me. I hung up and called back.

On the second call, I got a lovely woman who totally understood my plight
and how terrible it was. She told me a similar thing had happened to her,
and it had turned out OK. After 20 minutes of poking around and lots of
awkward sighing, she put me on hold to talk to a senior manager.

When she got back on the line, the story was just as bleak. We take your
security very seriously at Apple she told me but at this time we cannot
grant you access back into your Apple account. We recommend you create a new
Apple ID.

I couldn't believe what I was hearing and fought back that surely there was
some other way, but I was told point blank that Apple would not help me. I
offered a scan of my government ID, my trusted devices and other proof that
it was me. Nope, that won't do for Apple in this situation. She apologized
profusely and said there was nothing more should do.

Furious about the situation, I took to Twitter in a fit of rage, complaining
that Apple couldn't help me out of a dumb situation, in which I could easily
prove who I was. It was frustrating enough that when setting up my Apple ID,
the company assured me I could recover the account with a trusted device.

I know it was stupid that I'd lost the recovery key but I'd set it up so
long ago I couldn't remember where it would conceivably be. There's only so
many things I can keep track of. Besides, I figured I'd be able to use
trusted device to get out of a mess like this.

I'd looked almost everywhere twice by this point. Who remembers stuff like
this?

Apple's two factor signup process tries to point out the importance of the
key when you set it up.
You have to print the key, then re-enter it to show that you've got it. I
don't think this step existed when it launched.

So, I pushed on, resuming the hunt. As 24 hours without my Apple ID
approached, iMessage broke and my devices all started incessantly
complaining that the account was locked, amplifying an already frustrating
situation.

Figuring that maybe I'd just had bad luck with the phone, I tried Apple's
online chat service

Re: The dark side of Apple's two-factor authentication

[Ray Foret Jr]

Mark, many thanks for this very concerning article. I have already saved it on 
my Mac. Very timely, and, as I think, a great service to us all. Again, thank 
you.

Sincerely,
The Constantly barefooted Ray,

Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!

Sent from my iPhone,
the only smart phone with full accessibility for the blind built-in

 On Dec 9, 2014, at 2:10 PM, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu wrote:
 
 Hello Everyone,
 
 I strongly suggest that you read the following article, very carefully.  
 
 The link to the original post may be found at the end of the text.
 
 Mark
 
 The dark side of Apple's two-factor authentication
 
 Earlier this week, a strange message popped up on my Mac that I thought
 nothing of. You can't sign in because your account was disabled for
 security reasons. I dismissed it in my tired haze, thinking it would solve
 itself and went to sleep.
 
 The next morning, I didn't have time to deal with the message - which was
 now popping up every half hour - for a few hours until it became annoying. I
 figured I'd done something dumb and broken iCloud, but that it could wait.
 
 I'd turned two-factor on my Apple ID in haste when I read Mat Honan's
 harrowing story about how his Mac, iPhone and other devices were wiped when
 someone broke into his iCloud account. That terrified me into thinking about
 real security for the first time.
 
 When I finally had time to investigate the errors appearing on my machine, I
 discovered that not only had my iCloud account been locked, but someone had
 tried to break in. Two-factor had done its job and kept the attacker out,
 however, it had also inadvertently locked me out.
 
 The Apple support page relating to lockouts assured me it would be easy to
 recover my account with a combination of any two of either my password, a
 trusted device or the two-factor recovery key.
 
 When I headed to the account recovery service, dubbed iForgot, I discovered
 that there was no way back in without my recovery key. That's when it hit
 me; I had no idea where my recovery key was or if I'd ever even put the
 piece of paper in a safe place. I've moved since I set up two-factor on
 iCloud.
 
 I began nervously scouring the entire house for the code, before giving up
 after a few frustrating hours and began searching my computer for any trace
 of it. I found countless recovery keys but they weren't for the right
 things; for my Mac's hard-drive encryption, Twitter, Facebook and other
 accounts, but not for my Apple ID.
 
 How could I be foolish enough to misplace my Apple ID recovery key?
 I swore that I'd taken a screenshot, printed it and had taken a photo of it
 with my iPhone for extra safekeeping.
 
 This is when it began to sink in that this single ID held the keys to much
 of my digital life; everything from iTunes purchases going back seven years,
 app purchases and even the ability to get my iPhone out of the grips of Find
 my iPhone's lock.
 
 The sinking feeling began. After fruitlessly searching and a lot of cussing,
 I decided to call Apple. I figured that something must be wrong, since the
 support page claims you can use trusted devices to recover your ID in cases
 like this.
 
 The first person I spoke to told me immediately after getting on the phone
 that in no uncertain terms I had forfeit my Apple ID by losing the recovery
 key. He refused to help me. I hung up and called back.
 
 On the second call, I got a lovely woman who totally understood my plight
 and how terrible it was. She told me a similar thing had happened to her,
 and it had turned out OK. After 20 minutes of poking around and lots of
 awkward sighing, she put me on hold to talk to a senior manager.
 
 When she got back on the line, the story was just as bleak. We take your
 security very seriously at Apple she told me but at this time we cannot
 grant you access back into your Apple account. We recommend you create a new
 Apple ID.
 
 I couldn't believe what I was hearing and fought back that surely there was
 some other way, but I was told point blank that Apple would not help me. I
 offered a scan of my government ID, my trusted devices and other proof that
 it was me. Nope, that won't do for Apple in this situation. She apologized
 profusely and said there was nothing more should do.
 
 Furious about the situation, I took to Twitter in a fit of rage, complaining
 that Apple couldn't help me out of a dumb situation, in which I could easily
 prove who I was. It was frustrating enough that when setting up my Apple ID,
 the company assured me I could recover the account with a trusted device.
 
 I know it was stupid that I'd lost the recovery key but I'd set it up so
 long ago I couldn't remember where it would conceivably be. There's only so
 many things I can keep track of. Besides, I figured I'd be able to use
 trusted device to get out of a mess like this.
 
 I'd looked almost everywhere twice by this point. Who remembers stuff like
 this?
 
 Apple's two

Re: The dark side of Apple's two-factor authentication

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

Excellent article.

However, on Apple’s website it says that you can get a replacement trusted key 
but not sure how long ago that article was written.

Thank you.

 On 9 Dec 2014, at 20:10, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu wrote:
 
 Hello Everyone,
 
 I strongly suggest that you read the following article, very carefully.  
 
 The link to the original post may be found at the end of the text.
 
 Mark
 
 The dark side of Apple's two-factor authentication
 
 Earlier this week, a strange message popped up on my Mac that I thought
 nothing of. You can't sign in because your account was disabled for
 security reasons. I dismissed it in my tired haze, thinking it would solve
 itself and went to sleep.
 
 The next morning, I didn't have time to deal with the message - which was
 now popping up every half hour - for a few hours until it became annoying. I
 figured I'd done something dumb and broken iCloud, but that it could wait.
 
 I'd turned two-factor on my Apple ID in haste when I read Mat Honan's
 harrowing story about how his Mac, iPhone and other devices were wiped when
 someone broke into his iCloud account. That terrified me into thinking about
 real security for the first time.
 
 When I finally had time to investigate the errors appearing on my machine, I
 discovered that not only had my iCloud account been locked, but someone had
 tried to break in. Two-factor had done its job and kept the attacker out,
 however, it had also inadvertently locked me out.
 
 The Apple support page relating to lockouts assured me it would be easy to
 recover my account with a combination of any two of either my password, a
 trusted device or the two-factor recovery key.
 
 When I headed to the account recovery service, dubbed iForgot, I discovered
 that there was no way back in without my recovery key. That's when it hit
 me; I had no idea where my recovery key was or if I'd ever even put the
 piece of paper in a safe place. I've moved since I set up two-factor on
 iCloud.
 
 I began nervously scouring the entire house for the code, before giving up
 after a few frustrating hours and began searching my computer for any trace
 of it. I found countless recovery keys but they weren't for the right
 things; for my Mac's hard-drive encryption, Twitter, Facebook and other
 accounts, but not for my Apple ID.
 
 How could I be foolish enough to misplace my Apple ID recovery key?
 I swore that I'd taken a screenshot, printed it and had taken a photo of it
 with my iPhone for extra safekeeping.
 
 This is when it began to sink in that this single ID held the keys to much
 of my digital life; everything from iTunes purchases going back seven years,
 app purchases and even the ability to get my iPhone out of the grips of Find
 my iPhone's lock.
 
 The sinking feeling began. After fruitlessly searching and a lot of cussing,
 I decided to call Apple. I figured that something must be wrong, since the
 support page claims you can use trusted devices to recover your ID in cases
 like this.
 
 The first person I spoke to told me immediately after getting on the phone
 that in no uncertain terms I had forfeit my Apple ID by losing the recovery
 key. He refused to help me. I hung up and called back.
 
 On the second call, I got a lovely woman who totally understood my plight
 and how terrible it was. She told me a similar thing had happened to her,
 and it had turned out OK. After 20 minutes of poking around and lots of
 awkward sighing, she put me on hold to talk to a senior manager.
 
 When she got back on the line, the story was just as bleak. We take your
 security very seriously at Apple she told me but at this time we cannot
 grant you access back into your Apple account. We recommend you create a new
 Apple ID.
 
 I couldn't believe what I was hearing and fought back that surely there was
 some other way, but I was told point blank that Apple would not help me. I
 offered a scan of my government ID, my trusted devices and other proof that
 it was me. Nope, that won't do for Apple in this situation. She apologized
 profusely and said there was nothing more should do.
 
 Furious about the situation, I took to Twitter in a fit of rage, complaining
 that Apple couldn't help me out of a dumb situation, in which I could easily
 prove who I was. It was frustrating enough that when setting up my Apple ID,
 the company assured me I could recover the account with a trusted device.
 
 I know it was stupid that I'd lost the recovery key but I'd set it up so
 long ago I couldn't remember where it would conceivably be. There's only so
 many things I can keep track of. Besides, I figured I'd be able to use
 trusted device to get out of a mess like this.
 
 I'd looked almost everywhere twice by this point. Who remembers stuff like
 this?
 
 Apple's two factor signup process tries to point out the importance of the
 key when you set it up.
 You have to print the key, then re-enter it to show that you've got it. I
 don't think this step existed when

Re: The dark side of Apple's two-factor authentication

[Joseph]

Hello List,
The only thing i'd suggest regarding your recovery key is this. Don't store it 
on a computer device. Reason? What if the computer with the key on it crashes? 
I'd write it down somewhere or print it out and keep a copy of the key 
somewhere.
While I use 2 step verification, I see the recovery key as being a condition 
critical situation and treat it as such.


 On Dec 9, 2014, at 1:15 PM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 Mark, many thanks for this very concerning article. I have already saved it 
 on my Mac. Very timely, and, as I think, a great service to us all. Again, 
 thank you.
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly barefooted Ray,
 
 Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!
 
 Sent from my iPhone,
 the only smart phone with full accessibility for the blind built-in
 
 On Dec 9, 2014, at 2:10 PM, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu 
 mailto:mk...@ucla.edu wrote:
 
 Hello Everyone,
 
 I strongly suggest that you read the following article, very carefully.  
 
 The link to the original post may be found at the end of the text.
 
 Mark
 
 The dark side of Apple's two-factor authentication
 
 Earlier this week, a strange message popped up on my Mac that I thought
 nothing of. You can't sign in because your account was disabled for
 security reasons. I dismissed it in my tired haze, thinking it would solve
 itself and went to sleep.
 
 The next morning, I didn't have time to deal with the message - which was
 now popping up every half hour - for a few hours until it became annoying. I
 figured I'd done something dumb and broken iCloud, but that it could wait.
 
 I'd turned two-factor on my Apple ID in haste when I read Mat Honan's
 harrowing story about how his Mac, iPhone and other devices were wiped when
 someone broke into his iCloud account. That terrified me into thinking about
 real security for the first time.
 
 When I finally had time to investigate the errors appearing on my machine, I
 discovered that not only had my iCloud account been locked, but someone had
 tried to break in. Two-factor had done its job and kept the attacker out,
 however, it had also inadvertently locked me out.
 
 The Apple support page relating to lockouts assured me it would be easy to
 recover my account with a combination of any two of either my password, a
 trusted device or the two-factor recovery key.
 
 When I headed to the account recovery service, dubbed iForgot, I discovered
 that there was no way back in without my recovery key. That's when it hit
 me; I had no idea where my recovery key was or if I'd ever even put the
 piece of paper in a safe place. I've moved since I set up two-factor on
 iCloud.
 
 I began nervously scouring the entire house for the code, before giving up
 after a few frustrating hours and began searching my computer for any trace
 of it. I found countless recovery keys but they weren't for the right
 things; for my Mac's hard-drive encryption, Twitter, Facebook and other
 accounts, but not for my Apple ID.
 
 How could I be foolish enough to misplace my Apple ID recovery key?
 I swore that I'd taken a screenshot, printed it and had taken a photo of it
 with my iPhone for extra safekeeping.
 
 This is when it began to sink in that this single ID held the keys to much
 of my digital life; everything from iTunes purchases going back seven years,
 app purchases and even the ability to get my iPhone out of the grips of Find
 my iPhone's lock.
 
 The sinking feeling began. After fruitlessly searching and a lot of cussing,
 I decided to call Apple. I figured that something must be wrong, since the
 support page claims you can use trusted devices to recover your ID in cases
 like this.
 
 The first person I spoke to told me immediately after getting on the phone
 that in no uncertain terms I had forfeit my Apple ID by losing the recovery
 key. He refused to help me. I hung up and called back.
 
 On the second call, I got a lovely woman who totally understood my plight
 and how terrible it was. She told me a similar thing had happened to her,
 and it had turned out OK. After 20 minutes of poking around and lots of
 awkward sighing, she put me on hold to talk to a senior manager.
 
 When she got back on the line, the story was just as bleak. We take your
 security very seriously at Apple she told me but at this time we cannot
 grant you access back into your Apple account. We recommend you create a new
 Apple ID.
 
 I couldn't believe what I was hearing and fought back that surely there was
 some other way, but I was told point blank that Apple would not help me. I
 offered a scan of my government ID, my trusted devices and other proof that
 it was me. Nope, that won't do for Apple in this situation. She apologized
 profusely and said there was nothing more should do.
 
 Furious about the situation, I took to Twitter in a fit of rage, complaining
 that Apple couldn't help me out of a dumb situation, in which I could easily
 prove who I was. It was frustrating

Re: The dark side of Apple's two-factor authentication

[David Griffith]

I  hope that I am not having a false sense of security. As far as I know I have 
never set up a recovery key. I understood that this was only an issue for 
encrypted disc systems? I do not have any encryptions set up on any of my 
 Mac iPad or  iPhone.
 Am I on a knife edge without realising it?  

David Griffith

 On 9 Dec 2014, at 21:22, Joseph ablindvou...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hello List,
 The only thing i'd suggest regarding your recovery key is this. Don't store 
 it on a computer device. Reason? What if the computer with the key on it 
 crashes? I'd write it down somewhere or print it out and keep a copy of the 
 key somewhere.
 While I use 2 step verification, I see the recovery key as being a condition 
 critical situation and treat it as such.
 
 
 On Dec 9, 2014, at 1:15 PM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net 
 mailto:rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 Mark, many thanks for this very concerning article. I have already saved it 
 on my Mac. Very timely, and, as I think, a great service to us all. Again, 
 thank you.
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly barefooted Ray,
 
 Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!
 
 Sent from my iPhone,
 the only smart phone with full accessibility for the blind built-in
 
 On Dec 9, 2014, at 2:10 PM, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu 
 mailto:mk...@ucla.edu wrote:
 
 Hello Everyone,
 
 I strongly suggest that you read the following article, very carefully.  
 
 The link to the original post may be found at the end of the text.
 
 Mark
 
 The dark side of Apple's two-factor authentication
 
 Earlier this week, a strange message popped up on my Mac that I thought
 nothing of. You can't sign in because your account was disabled for
 security reasons. I dismissed it in my tired haze, thinking it would solve
 itself and went to sleep.
 
 The next morning, I didn't have time to deal with the message - which was
 now popping up every half hour - for a few hours until it became annoying. I
 figured I'd done something dumb and broken iCloud, but that it could wait.
 
 I'd turned two-factor on my Apple ID in haste when I read Mat Honan's
 harrowing story about how his Mac, iPhone and other devices were wiped when
 someone broke into his iCloud account. That terrified me into thinking about
 real security for the first time.
 
 When I finally had time to investigate the errors appearing on my machine, I
 discovered that not only had my iCloud account been locked, but someone had
 tried to break in. Two-factor had done its job and kept the attacker out,
 however, it had also inadvertently locked me out.
 
 The Apple support page relating to lockouts assured me it would be easy to
 recover my account with a combination of any two of either my password, a
 trusted device or the two-factor recovery key.
 
 When I headed to the account recovery service, dubbed iForgot, I discovered
 that there was no way back in without my recovery key. That's when it hit
 me; I had no idea where my recovery key was or if I'd ever even put the
 piece of paper in a safe place. I've moved since I set up two-factor on
 iCloud.
 
 I began nervously scouring the entire house for the code, before giving up
 after a few frustrating hours and began searching my computer for any trace
 of it. I found countless recovery keys but they weren't for the right
 things; for my Mac's hard-drive encryption, Twitter, Facebook and other
 accounts, but not for my Apple ID.
 
 How could I be foolish enough to misplace my Apple ID recovery key?
 I swore that I'd taken a screenshot, printed it and had taken a photo of it
 with my iPhone for extra safekeeping.
 
 This is when it began to sink in that this single ID held the keys to much
 of my digital life; everything from iTunes purchases going back seven years,
 app purchases and even the ability to get my iPhone out of the grips of Find
 my iPhone's lock.
 
 The sinking feeling began. After fruitlessly searching and a lot of cussing,
 I decided to call Apple. I figured that something must be wrong, since the
 support page claims you can use trusted devices to recover your ID in cases
 like this.
 
 The first person I spoke to told me immediately after getting on the phone
 that in no uncertain terms I had forfeit my Apple ID by losing the recovery
 key. He refused to help me. I hung up and called back.
 
 On the second call, I got a lovely woman who totally understood my plight
 and how terrible it was. She told me a similar thing had happened to her,
 and it had turned out OK. After 20 minutes of poking around and lots of
 awkward sighing, she put me on hold to talk to a senior manager.
 
 When she got back on the line, the story was just as bleak. We take your
 security very seriously at Apple she told me but at this time we cannot
 grant you access back into your Apple account. We recommend you create a new
 Apple ID.
 
 I couldn't believe what I was hearing and fought back that surely there was
 some other way, but I was told point blank that Apple

Re: The dark side of Apple's two-factor authentication

[Joseph]

Hello,
We are now talking about two different recovery keys. In the 2 step 
verification part of the discussion, that is a recovery key that relates to 
your apple id.
The recovery key for your hard drive is specific to your mac computer.

 On Dec 9, 2014, at 1:31 PM, David Griffith daj.griff...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I  hope that I am not having a false sense of security. As far as I know I 
 have never set up a recovery key. I understood that this was only an issue 
 for encrypted disc systems? I do not have any encryptions set up on any of my 
  Mac iPad or  iPhone.
  Am I on a knife edge without realising it?  
 
 David Griffith
 
 On 9 Dec 2014, at 21:22, Joseph ablindvou...@icloud.com 
 mailto:ablindvou...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hello List,
 The only thing i'd suggest regarding your recovery key is this. Don't store 
 it on a computer device. Reason? What if the computer with the key on it 
 crashes? I'd write it down somewhere or print it out and keep a copy of the 
 key somewhere.
 While I use 2 step verification, I see the recovery key as being a condition 
 critical situation and treat it as such.
 
 
 On Dec 9, 2014, at 1:15 PM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net 
 mailto:rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 Mark, many thanks for this very concerning article. I have already saved it 
 on my Mac. Very timely, and, as I think, a great service to us all. Again, 
 thank you.
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly barefooted Ray,
 
 Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!
 
 Sent from my iPhone,
 the only smart phone with full accessibility for the blind built-in
 
 On Dec 9, 2014, at 2:10 PM, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu 
 mailto:mk...@ucla.edu wrote:
 
 Hello Everyone,
 
 I strongly suggest that you read the following article, very carefully.  
 
 The link to the original post may be found at the end of the text.
 
 Mark
 
 The dark side of Apple's two-factor authentication
 
 Earlier this week, a strange message popped up on my Mac that I thought
 nothing of. You can't sign in because your account was disabled for
 security reasons. I dismissed it in my tired haze, thinking it would solve
 itself and went to sleep.
 
 The next morning, I didn't have time to deal with the message - which was
 now popping up every half hour - for a few hours until it became annoying. 
 I
 figured I'd done something dumb and broken iCloud, but that it could wait.
 
 I'd turned two-factor on my Apple ID in haste when I read Mat Honan's
 harrowing story about how his Mac, iPhone and other devices were wiped when
 someone broke into his iCloud account. That terrified me into thinking 
 about
 real security for the first time.
 
 When I finally had time to investigate the errors appearing on my machine, 
 I
 discovered that not only had my iCloud account been locked, but someone had
 tried to break in. Two-factor had done its job and kept the attacker out,
 however, it had also inadvertently locked me out.
 
 The Apple support page relating to lockouts assured me it would be easy to
 recover my account with a combination of any two of either my password, a
 trusted device or the two-factor recovery key.
 
 When I headed to the account recovery service, dubbed iForgot, I discovered
 that there was no way back in without my recovery key. That's when it hit
 me; I had no idea where my recovery key was or if I'd ever even put the
 piece of paper in a safe place. I've moved since I set up two-factor on
 iCloud.
 
 I began nervously scouring the entire house for the code, before giving up
 after a few frustrating hours and began searching my computer for any trace
 of it. I found countless recovery keys but they weren't for the right
 things; for my Mac's hard-drive encryption, Twitter, Facebook and other
 accounts, but not for my Apple ID.
 
 How could I be foolish enough to misplace my Apple ID recovery key?
 I swore that I'd taken a screenshot, printed it and had taken a photo of it
 with my iPhone for extra safekeeping.
 
 This is when it began to sink in that this single ID held the keys to much
 of my digital life; everything from iTunes purchases going back seven 
 years,
 app purchases and even the ability to get my iPhone out of the grips of 
 Find
 my iPhone's lock.
 
 The sinking feeling began. After fruitlessly searching and a lot of 
 cussing,
 I decided to call Apple. I figured that something must be wrong, since the
 support page claims you can use trusted devices to recover your ID in cases
 like this.
 
 The first person I spoke to told me immediately after getting on the phone
 that in no uncertain terms I had forfeit my Apple ID by losing the recovery
 key. He refused to help me. I hung up and called back.
 
 On the second call, I got a lovely woman who totally understood my plight
 and how terrible it was. She told me a similar thing had happened to her,
 and it had turned out OK. After 20 minutes of poking around and lots of
 awkward sighing, she put me on hold to talk to a senior manager

Re: The dark side of Apple's two-factor authentication

[Kevin Cussick]

Hello,   I think your OK but now you have me wondering as well Lol.

On 09/12/2014 21:31, David Griffith wrote:

I  hope that I am not having a false sense of security. As far as I know I have 
never set up a recovery key. I understood that this was only an issue for 
encrypted disc systems? I do not have any encryptions set up on any of my
  Mac iPad or  iPhone.
  Am I on a knife edge without realising it?

David Griffith


On 9 Dec 2014, at 21:22, Joseph ablindvou...@icloud.com wrote:

Hello List,
The only thing i'd suggest regarding your recovery key is this. Don't store it 
on a computer device. Reason? What if the computer with the key on it crashes? 
I'd write it down somewhere or print it out and keep a copy of the key 
somewhere.
While I use 2 step verification, I see the recovery key as being a condition 
critical situation and treat it as such.



On Dec 9, 2014, at 1:15 PM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net 
mailto:rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:

Mark, many thanks for this very concerning article. I have already saved it on 
my Mac. Very timely, and, as I think, a great service to us all. Again, thank 
you.

Sincerely,
The Constantly barefooted Ray,

Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!

Sent from my iPhone,
the only smart phone with full accessibility for the blind built-in

On Dec 9, 2014, at 2:10 PM, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu mailto:mk...@ucla.edu 
wrote:


Hello Everyone,

I strongly suggest that you read the following article, very carefully.

The link to the original post may be found at the end of the text.

Mark

The dark side of Apple's two-factor authentication

Earlier this week, a strange message popped up on my Mac that I thought
nothing of. You can't sign in because your account was disabled for
security reasons. I dismissed it in my tired haze, thinking it would solve
itself and went to sleep.

The next morning, I didn't have time to deal with the message - which was
now popping up every half hour - for a few hours until it became annoying. I
figured I'd done something dumb and broken iCloud, but that it could wait.

I'd turned two-factor on my Apple ID in haste when I read Mat Honan's
harrowing story about how his Mac, iPhone and other devices were wiped when
someone broke into his iCloud account. That terrified me into thinking about
real security for the first time.

When I finally had time to investigate the errors appearing on my machine, I
discovered that not only had my iCloud account been locked, but someone had
tried to break in. Two-factor had done its job and kept the attacker out,
however, it had also inadvertently locked me out.

The Apple support page relating to lockouts assured me it would be easy to
recover my account with a combination of any two of either my password, a
trusted device or the two-factor recovery key.

When I headed to the account recovery service, dubbed iForgot, I discovered
that there was no way back in without my recovery key. That's when it hit
me; I had no idea where my recovery key was or if I'd ever even put the
piece of paper in a safe place. I've moved since I set up two-factor on
iCloud.

I began nervously scouring the entire house for the code, before giving up
after a few frustrating hours and began searching my computer for any trace
of it. I found countless recovery keys but they weren't for the right
things; for my Mac's hard-drive encryption, Twitter, Facebook and other
accounts, but not for my Apple ID.

How could I be foolish enough to misplace my Apple ID recovery key?
I swore that I'd taken a screenshot, printed it and had taken a photo of it
with my iPhone for extra safekeeping.

This is when it began to sink in that this single ID held the keys to much
of my digital life; everything from iTunes purchases going back seven years,
app purchases and even the ability to get my iPhone out of the grips of Find
my iPhone's lock.

The sinking feeling began. After fruitlessly searching and a lot of cussing,
I decided to call Apple. I figured that something must be wrong, since the
support page claims you can use trusted devices to recover your ID in cases
like this.

The first person I spoke to told me immediately after getting on the phone
that in no uncertain terms I had forfeit my Apple ID by losing the recovery
key. He refused to help me. I hung up and called back.

On the second call, I got a lovely woman who totally understood my plight
and how terrible it was. She told me a similar thing had happened to her,
and it had turned out OK. After 20 minutes of poking around and lots of
awkward sighing, she put me on hold to talk to a senior manager.

When she got back on the line, the story was just as bleak. We take your
security very seriously at Apple she told me but at this time we cannot
grant you access back into your Apple account. We recommend you create a new
Apple ID.

I couldn't believe what I was hearing and fought back that surely there was
some other way, but I was told point blank

Re: The dark side of Apple's two-factor authentication

[BobH.]

Alternative option, put some of this on a pen drive and don't leave it 
connected to a computer.
I have 2 on a keyring which live in a desk drawer.
- Original Message - 
From: Joseph ablindvou...@icloud.com
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 9:22 PM
Subject: Re: The dark side of Apple's two-factor authentication


Hello List,
The only thing i'd suggest regarding your recovery key is this. Don't store 
it on a computer device. Reason? What if the computer with the key on it 
crashes? I'd write it down somewhere or print it out and keep a copy of the 
key somewhere.
While I use 2 step verification, I see the recovery key as being a condition 
critical situation and treat it as such.


 On Dec 9, 2014, at 1:15 PM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:

 Mark, many thanks for this very concerning article. I have already saved 
 it on my Mac. Very timely, and, as I think, a great service to us all. 
 Again, thank you.

 Sincerely,
 The Constantly barefooted Ray,

 Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!

 Sent from my iPhone,
 the only smart phone with full accessibility for the blind built-in

 On Dec 9, 2014, at 2:10 PM, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu 
 mailto:mk...@ucla.edu wrote:

 Hello Everyone,

 I strongly suggest that you read the following article, very carefully.

 The link to the original post may be found at the end of the text.

 Mark

 The dark side of Apple's two-factor authentication

 Earlier this week, a strange message popped up on my Mac that I thought
 nothing of. You can't sign in because your account was disabled for
 security reasons. I dismissed it in my tired haze, thinking it would 
 solve
 itself and went to sleep.

 The next morning, I didn't have time to deal with the message - which was
 now popping up every half hour - for a few hours until it became 
 annoying. I
 figured I'd done something dumb and broken iCloud, but that it could 
 wait.

 I'd turned two-factor on my Apple ID in haste when I read Mat Honan's
 harrowing story about how his Mac, iPhone and other devices were wiped 
 when
 someone broke into his iCloud account. That terrified me into thinking 
 about
 real security for the first time.

 When I finally had time to investigate the errors appearing on my 
 machine, I
 discovered that not only had my iCloud account been locked, but someone 
 had
 tried to break in. Two-factor had done its job and kept the attacker out,
 however, it had also inadvertently locked me out.

 The Apple support page relating to lockouts assured me it would be easy 
 to
 recover my account with a combination of any two of either my password, a
 trusted device or the two-factor recovery key.

 When I headed to the account recovery service, dubbed iForgot, I 
 discovered
 that there was no way back in without my recovery key. That's when it hit
 me; I had no idea where my recovery key was or if I'd ever even put the
 piece of paper in a safe place. I've moved since I set up two-factor on
 iCloud.

 I began nervously scouring the entire house for the code, before giving 
 up
 after a few frustrating hours and began searching my computer for any 
 trace
 of it. I found countless recovery keys but they weren't for the right
 things; for my Mac's hard-drive encryption, Twitter, Facebook and other
 accounts, but not for my Apple ID.

 How could I be foolish enough to misplace my Apple ID recovery key?
 I swore that I'd taken a screenshot, printed it and had taken a photo of 
 it
 with my iPhone for extra safekeeping.

 This is when it began to sink in that this single ID held the keys to 
 much
 of my digital life; everything from iTunes purchases going back seven 
 years,
 app purchases and even the ability to get my iPhone out of the grips of 
 Find
 my iPhone's lock.

 The sinking feeling began. After fruitlessly searching and a lot of 
 cussing,
 I decided to call Apple. I figured that something must be wrong, since 
 the
 support page claims you can use trusted devices to recover your ID in 
 cases
 like this.

 The first person I spoke to told me immediately after getting on the 
 phone
 that in no uncertain terms I had forfeit my Apple ID by losing the 
 recovery
 key. He refused to help me. I hung up and called back.

 On the second call, I got a lovely woman who totally understood my plight
 and how terrible it was. She told me a similar thing had happened to her,
 and it had turned out OK. After 20 minutes of poking around and lots of
 awkward sighing, she put me on hold to talk to a senior manager.

 When she got back on the line, the story was just as bleak. We take your
 security very seriously at Apple she told me but at this time we cannot
 grant you access back into your Apple account. We recommend you create a 
 new
 Apple ID.

 I couldn't believe what I was hearing and fought back that surely there 
 was
 some other way, but I was told point blank that Apple would not help me. 
 I
 offered a scan of my

Re: The dark side of Apple's two-factor authentication

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

As far as I know, you need a trusted key or you do not have two step 
verification.

Also, the only advantage is that you don’t get asked those awful security 
questions.

Kawal.
 On 9 Dec 2014, at 21:44, BobH. long.c...@virgin.net wrote:
 
 Alternative option, put some of this on a pen drive and don't leave it 
 connected to a computer.
 I have 2 on a keyring which live in a desk drawer.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Joseph ablindvou...@icloud.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 9:22 PM
 Subject: Re: The dark side of Apple's two-factor authentication
 
 
 Hello List,
 The only thing i'd suggest regarding your recovery key is this. Don't store 
 it on a computer device. Reason? What if the computer with the key on it 
 crashes? I'd write it down somewhere or print it out and keep a copy of the 
 key somewhere.
 While I use 2 step verification, I see the recovery key as being a condition 
 critical situation and treat it as such.
 
 
 On Dec 9, 2014, at 1:15 PM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 Mark, many thanks for this very concerning article. I have already saved 
 it on my Mac. Very timely, and, as I think, a great service to us all. 
 Again, thank you.
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly barefooted Ray,
 
 Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!
 
 Sent from my iPhone,
 the only smart phone with full accessibility for the blind built-in
 
 On Dec 9, 2014, at 2:10 PM, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu 
 mailto:mk...@ucla.edu wrote:
 
 Hello Everyone,
 
 I strongly suggest that you read the following article, very carefully.
 
 The link to the original post may be found at the end of the text.
 
 Mark
 
 The dark side of Apple's two-factor authentication
 
 Earlier this week, a strange message popped up on my Mac that I thought
 nothing of. You can't sign in because your account was disabled for
 security reasons. I dismissed it in my tired haze, thinking it would 
 solve
 itself and went to sleep.
 
 The next morning, I didn't have time to deal with the message - which was
 now popping up every half hour - for a few hours until it became 
 annoying. I
 figured I'd done something dumb and broken iCloud, but that it could 
 wait.
 
 I'd turned two-factor on my Apple ID in haste when I read Mat Honan's
 harrowing story about how his Mac, iPhone and other devices were wiped 
 when
 someone broke into his iCloud account. That terrified me into thinking 
 about
 real security for the first time.
 
 When I finally had time to investigate the errors appearing on my 
 machine, I
 discovered that not only had my iCloud account been locked, but someone 
 had
 tried to break in. Two-factor had done its job and kept the attacker out,
 however, it had also inadvertently locked me out.
 
 The Apple support page relating to lockouts assured me it would be easy 
 to
 recover my account with a combination of any two of either my password, a
 trusted device or the two-factor recovery key.
 
 When I headed to the account recovery service, dubbed iForgot, I 
 discovered
 that there was no way back in without my recovery key. That's when it hit
 me; I had no idea where my recovery key was or if I'd ever even put the
 piece of paper in a safe place. I've moved since I set up two-factor on
 iCloud.
 
 I began nervously scouring the entire house for the code, before giving 
 up
 after a few frustrating hours and began searching my computer for any 
 trace
 of it. I found countless recovery keys but they weren't for the right
 things; for my Mac's hard-drive encryption, Twitter, Facebook and other
 accounts, but not for my Apple ID.
 
 How could I be foolish enough to misplace my Apple ID recovery key?
 I swore that I'd taken a screenshot, printed it and had taken a photo of 
 it
 with my iPhone for extra safekeeping.
 
 This is when it began to sink in that this single ID held the keys to 
 much
 of my digital life; everything from iTunes purchases going back seven 
 years,
 app purchases and even the ability to get my iPhone out of the grips of 
 Find
 my iPhone's lock.
 
 The sinking feeling began. After fruitlessly searching and a lot of 
 cussing,
 I decided to call Apple. I figured that something must be wrong, since 
 the
 support page claims you can use trusted devices to recover your ID in 
 cases
 like this.
 
 The first person I spoke to told me immediately after getting on the 
 phone
 that in no uncertain terms I had forfeit my Apple ID by losing the 
 recovery
 key. He refused to help me. I hung up and called back.
 
 On the second call, I got a lovely woman who totally understood my plight
 and how terrible it was. She told me a similar thing had happened to her,
 and it had turned out OK. After 20 minutes of poking around and lots of
 awkward sighing, she put me on hold to talk to a senior manager.
 
 When she got back on the line, the story was just as bleak. We take your
 security very seriously at Apple she told me but at this time we

Re: The dark side of Apple's two-factor authentication

[Agent086b]

Hello,
where on the Apple site can you find how to get a replacement key? 
Thanks
Max

 On 10 Dec 2014, at 8:21 am, Kawal Gucukoglu kgli...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Excellent article.
 
 However, on Apple’s website it says that you can get a replacement trusted 
 key but not sure how long ago that article was written.
 
 Thank you.
 
 On 9 Dec 2014, at 20:10, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu wrote:
 
 Hello Everyone,
 
 I strongly suggest that you read the following article, very carefully.  
 
 The link to the original post may be found at the end of the text.
 
 Mark
 
 The dark side of Apple's two-factor authentication
 
 Earlier this week, a strange message popped up on my Mac that I thought
 nothing of. You can't sign in because your account was disabled for
 security reasons. I dismissed it in my tired haze, thinking it would solve
 itself and went to sleep.
 
 The next morning, I didn't have time to deal with the message - which was
 now popping up every half hour - for a few hours until it became annoying. I
 figured I'd done something dumb and broken iCloud, but that it could wait.
 
 I'd turned two-factor on my Apple ID in haste when I read Mat Honan's
 harrowing story about how his Mac, iPhone and other devices were wiped when
 someone broke into his iCloud account. That terrified me into thinking about
 real security for the first time.
 
 When I finally had time to investigate the errors appearing on my machine, I
 discovered that not only had my iCloud account been locked, but someone had
 tried to break in. Two-factor had done its job and kept the attacker out,
 however, it had also inadvertently locked me out.
 
 The Apple support page relating to lockouts assured me it would be easy to
 recover my account with a combination of any two of either my password, a
 trusted device or the two-factor recovery key.
 
 When I headed to the account recovery service, dubbed iForgot, I discovered
 that there was no way back in without my recovery key. That's when it hit
 me; I had no idea where my recovery key was or if I'd ever even put the
 piece of paper in a safe place. I've moved since I set up two-factor on
 iCloud.
 
 I began nervously scouring the entire house for the code, before giving up
 after a few frustrating hours and began searching my computer for any trace
 of it. I found countless recovery keys but they weren't for the right
 things; for my Mac's hard-drive encryption, Twitter, Facebook and other
 accounts, but not for my Apple ID.
 
 How could I be foolish enough to misplace my Apple ID recovery key?
 I swore that I'd taken a screenshot, printed it and had taken a photo of it
 with my iPhone for extra safekeeping.
 
 This is when it began to sink in that this single ID held the keys to much
 of my digital life; everything from iTunes purchases going back seven years,
 app purchases and even the ability to get my iPhone out of the grips of Find
 my iPhone's lock.
 
 The sinking feeling began. After fruitlessly searching and a lot of cussing,
 I decided to call Apple. I figured that something must be wrong, since the
 support page claims you can use trusted devices to recover your ID in cases
 like this.
 
 The first person I spoke to told me immediately after getting on the phone
 that in no uncertain terms I had forfeit my Apple ID by losing the recovery
 key. He refused to help me. I hung up and called back.
 
 On the second call, I got a lovely woman who totally understood my plight
 and how terrible it was. She told me a similar thing had happened to her,
 and it had turned out OK. After 20 minutes of poking around and lots of
 awkward sighing, she put me on hold to talk to a senior manager.
 
 When she got back on the line, the story was just as bleak. We take your
 security very seriously at Apple she told me but at this time we cannot
 grant you access back into your Apple account. We recommend you create a new
 Apple ID.
 
 I couldn't believe what I was hearing and fought back that surely there was
 some other way, but I was told point blank that Apple would not help me. I
 offered a scan of my government ID, my trusted devices and other proof that
 it was me. Nope, that won't do for Apple in this situation. She apologized
 profusely and said there was nothing more should do.
 
 Furious about the situation, I took to Twitter in a fit of rage, complaining
 that Apple couldn't help me out of a dumb situation, in which I could easily
 prove who I was. It was frustrating enough that when setting up my Apple ID,
 the company assured me I could recover the account with a trusted device.
 
 I know it was stupid that I'd lost the recovery key but I'd set it up so
 long ago I couldn't remember where it would conceivably be. There's only so
 many things I can keep track of. Besides, I figured I'd be able to use
 trusted device to get out of a mess like this.
 
 I'd looked almost everywhere twice by this point. Who remembers stuff like
 this?
 
 Apple's two factor signup process tries to point out

Re: The dark side of Apple's two-factor authentication

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

When you have trusted your devices, and you go back to that area on the 
website, you can add devices, also you can get a replacement key from the same 
place where you are asked to do this process.

You have to be logged in to your account though.  May be they changed that bit 
after the recent press.

Kawal.
 On 9 Dec 2014, at 21:59, Agent086b agent0...@internode.on.net wrote:
 
 Hello,
 where on the Apple site can you find how to get a replacement key? 
 Thanks
 Max
 
 On 10 Dec 2014, at 8:21 am, Kawal Gucukoglu kgli...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Excellent article.
 
 However, on Apple’s website it says that you can get a replacement trusted 
 key but not sure how long ago that article was written.
 
 Thank you.
 
 On 9 Dec 2014, at 20:10, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu wrote:
 
 Hello Everyone,
 
 I strongly suggest that you read the following article, very carefully.  
 
 The link to the original post may be found at the end of the text.
 
 Mark
 
 The dark side of Apple's two-factor authentication
 
 Earlier this week, a strange message popped up on my Mac that I thought
 nothing of. You can't sign in because your account was disabled for
 security reasons. I dismissed it in my tired haze, thinking it would solve
 itself and went to sleep.
 
 The next morning, I didn't have time to deal with the message - which was
 now popping up every half hour - for a few hours until it became annoying. I
 figured I'd done something dumb and broken iCloud, but that it could wait.
 
 I'd turned two-factor on my Apple ID in haste when I read Mat Honan's
 harrowing story about how his Mac, iPhone and other devices were wiped when
 someone broke into his iCloud account. That terrified me into thinking about
 real security for the first time.
 
 When I finally had time to investigate the errors appearing on my machine, I
 discovered that not only had my iCloud account been locked, but someone had
 tried to break in. Two-factor had done its job and kept the attacker out,
 however, it had also inadvertently locked me out.
 
 The Apple support page relating to lockouts assured me it would be easy to
 recover my account with a combination of any two of either my password, a
 trusted device or the two-factor recovery key.
 
 When I headed to the account recovery service, dubbed iForgot, I discovered
 that there was no way back in without my recovery key. That's when it hit
 me; I had no idea where my recovery key was or if I'd ever even put the
 piece of paper in a safe place. I've moved since I set up two-factor on
 iCloud.
 
 I began nervously scouring the entire house for the code, before giving up
 after a few frustrating hours and began searching my computer for any trace
 of it. I found countless recovery keys but they weren't for the right
 things; for my Mac's hard-drive encryption, Twitter, Facebook and other
 accounts, but not for my Apple ID.
 
 How could I be foolish enough to misplace my Apple ID recovery key?
 I swore that I'd taken a screenshot, printed it and had taken a photo of it
 with my iPhone for extra safekeeping.
 
 This is when it began to sink in that this single ID held the keys to much
 of my digital life; everything from iTunes purchases going back seven years,
 app purchases and even the ability to get my iPhone out of the grips of Find
 my iPhone's lock.
 
 The sinking feeling began. After fruitlessly searching and a lot of cussing,
 I decided to call Apple. I figured that something must be wrong, since the
 support page claims you can use trusted devices to recover your ID in cases
 like this.
 
 The first person I spoke to told me immediately after getting on the phone
 that in no uncertain terms I had forfeit my Apple ID by losing the recovery
 key. He refused to help me. I hung up and called back.
 
 On the second call, I got a lovely woman who totally understood my plight
 and how terrible it was. She told me a similar thing had happened to her,
 and it had turned out OK. After 20 minutes of poking around and lots of
 awkward sighing, she put me on hold to talk to a senior manager.
 
 When she got back on the line, the story was just as bleak. We take your
 security very seriously at Apple she told me but at this time we cannot
 grant you access back into your Apple account. We recommend you create a new
 Apple ID.
 
 I couldn't believe what I was hearing and fought back that surely there was
 some other way, but I was told point blank that Apple would not help me. I
 offered a scan of my government ID, my trusted devices and other proof that
 it was me. Nope, that won't do for Apple in this situation. She apologized
 profusely and said there was nothing more should do.
 
 Furious about the situation, I took to Twitter in a fit of rage, complaining
 that Apple couldn't help me out of a dumb situation, in which I could easily
 prove who I was. It was frustrating enough that when setting up my Apple ID,
 the company assured me I could recover the account with a trusted device.
 
 I know it was stupid