Re: VoiceOver intro

2013-08-12 Thread Joseph Norton
Hi list:

Thanks for confirming this.

What's that address at apple I should write to?

Thanks!

On 8/10/13, Alex Hall  wrote:
> I think that setting only applies when Voiceover starts for the first time,
> but I could be wrong. Try restarting your computer and see if you get the
> dialog. As to the spoken message, I have a suspicion that it is simply
> getting cut off by another announcement. After all, especially if you have
> applications set to re-open upon starting your computer, VO will have a lot
> of things to tell you and the welcome message (different from the dialog)
> could simply be getting lost.
> On Aug 10, 2013, at 6:22 AM, Gavin Grundlingh  wrote:
>
>> Hi Joseph,
>>
>> I've just tried turning on the check box for "Display welcome dialog when
>> VoiceOverstarts" and sure enough, no welcome message comes up when I turn
>> VoiceOver off and back on again. So, no, it appears to not only be on your
>> system.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Gavin Grundlingh
>> Primary Phone: +27 (0) 83 713-6191
>> Secondary Phone: +27 (0) 79 157-2466
>> Fax: +27 (0) 86 617-5792
>> Primary Email: g.batw...@gmail.com
>> Secondary Email: customtra...@live.co.za
>> Skype: Batworx
>> Facebook: http://facebook.com/gavin.grundlingh
>> Twitter: @Batworx
>>
>> On 10 Aug 2013, at 12:27 AM, Joseph Norton 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi list:
>>
>> Have you all noticed that, at least in Mountain Lion, there is no longer
>> an intro that plays the first time a user runs VoiceOver?  The option to
>> display the Welcome dialog still exists, but, effectively does nothing.
>> You can still get the VoiceOver quickStart via the VO+Command+f8
>> keystroke, but, unless a new user knows this, he may never get the Welcome
>> message for the first time.
>>
>> Is this my system, or, is this something anyone else on the list can
>> confirm?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> --
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
>> "MacVisionaries" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
>> "MacVisionaries" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
>
>
>
> Have a great day,
> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
> mehg...@gmail.com
>
>
>
> --
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
>
>
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.


Re: VoiceOver intro

2013-08-10 Thread Alex Hall
I think that setting only applies when Voiceover starts for the first time, but 
I could be wrong. Try restarting your computer and see if you get the dialog. 
As to the spoken message, I have a suspicion that it is simply getting cut off 
by another announcement. After all, especially if you have applications set to 
re-open upon starting your computer, VO will have a lot of things to tell you 
and the welcome message (different from the dialog) could simply be getting 
lost.
On Aug 10, 2013, at 6:22 AM, Gavin Grundlingh  wrote:

> Hi Joseph,
> 
> I've just tried turning on the check box for "Display welcome dialog when 
> VoiceOverstarts" and sure enough, no welcome message comes up when I turn 
> VoiceOver off and back on again. So, no, it appears to not only be on your 
> system.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Gavin Grundlingh
> Primary Phone: +27 (0) 83 713-6191
> Secondary Phone: +27 (0) 79 157-2466
> Fax: +27 (0) 86 617-5792
> Primary Email: g.batw...@gmail.com
> Secondary Email: customtra...@live.co.za
> Skype: Batworx
> Facebook: http://facebook.com/gavin.grundlingh
> Twitter: @Batworx
> 
> On 10 Aug 2013, at 12:27 AM, Joseph Norton  wrote:
> 
> Hi list:
> 
> Have you all noticed that, at least in Mountain Lion, there is no longer an 
> intro that plays the first time a user runs VoiceOver?  The option to display 
> the Welcome dialog still exists, but, effectively does nothing.  You can 
> still get the VoiceOver quickStart via the VO+Command+f8 keystroke, but, 
> unless a new user knows this, he may never get the Welcome message for the 
> first time.
> 
> Is this my system, or, is this something anyone else on the list can confirm?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> -- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.



Have a great day,
Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
mehg...@gmail.com



-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.




Re: VoiceOver intro

2013-08-10 Thread Gavin Grundlingh
Hi Joseph,

I've just tried turning on the check box for "Display welcome dialog when 
VoiceOverstarts" and sure enough, no welcome message comes up when I turn 
VoiceOver off and back on again. So, no, it appears to not only be on your 
system.

Regards,

Gavin Grundlingh
Primary Phone: +27 (0) 83 713-6191
Secondary Phone: +27 (0) 79 157-2466
Fax: +27 (0) 86 617-5792
Primary Email: g.batw...@gmail.com
Secondary Email: customtra...@live.co.za
Skype: Batworx
Facebook: http://facebook.com/gavin.grundlingh
Twitter: @Batworx

On 10 Aug 2013, at 12:27 AM, Joseph Norton  wrote:

Hi list:

Have you all noticed that, at least in Mountain Lion, there is no longer an 
intro that plays the first time a user runs VoiceOver?  The option to display 
the Welcome dialog still exists, but, effectively does nothing.  You can still 
get the VoiceOver quickStart via the VO+Command+f8 keystroke, but, unless a new 
user knows this, he may never get the Welcome message for the first time.

Is this my system, or, is this something anyone else on the list can confirm?

Thanks!

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.



-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.


Re: VoiceOver intro

2013-08-09 Thread Ray Foret jr
My experience after doing a recent reinstall is exactly the oposate.


Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in!
Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray
Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!

On Aug 9, 2013, at 5:27 PM, Joseph Norton  wrote:

> Hi list:
> 
> Have you all noticed that, at least in Mountain Lion, there is no longer an 
> intro that plays the first time a user runs VoiceOver?  The option to display 
> the Welcome dialog still exists, but, effectively does nothing.  You can 
> still get the VoiceOver quickStart via the VO+Command+f8 keystroke, but, 
> unless a new user knows this, he may never get the Welcome message for the 
> first time.
> 
> Is this my system, or, is this something anyone else on the list can confirm?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> -- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
> 
> 

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.




VoiceOver intro

2013-08-09 Thread Joseph Norton
Hi list:

Have you all noticed that, at least in Mountain Lion, there is no longer an 
intro that plays the first time a user runs VoiceOver?  The option to display 
the Welcome dialog still exists, but, effectively does nothing.  You can still 
get the VoiceOver quickStart via the VO+Command+f8 keystroke, but, unless a new 
user knows this, he may never get the Welcome message for the first time.

Is this my system, or, is this something anyone else on the list can confirm?

Thanks!

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.