Re: Working with MobileMe web mail and setting up aliases [was Re: Setting aliases in mobileme]

2009-07-09 Thread Simon Cavendish

Dear Esther,

Thank you for such an excellent set of steps to help me set up aliases  
in MobileMe. It was well worth waiting for.

With best and warmest wishes

Simon
On 9 Jul 2009, at 05:17, Esther wrote:

>
> Hello Simon,
>
> Simon Cavendish wrote:
>
>>
>> Has anyone successfully set aliases in MobileMe with VO? I tried many
>> times yesterday but failed. Any tips?
>>
>
> I have set up mail aliases in MobileMe, although I have to say that it
> was a lot easier to do in the previous incarnation as dot Mac.  You'll
> need to work with the web interface to MobileMe, which is where the
> current accessibility issues are.  I've found it much easier if I set
> my mouse cursor to track my VoiceOver cursor for the navigation
> options under VoiceOver utility, though I'm not sure it's necessary
> now for setting up aliases.  In the past there were some instances
> where I could not select with VO-Space, but had to click with VO- 
> Shift-
> Space, in order to choose options.  If I didn't have cursor tracking
> turned on, I couldn't reliably make selections.  Since I've generally
> found that the accessible performance of the MobileMe web interface is
> better, or at least equally good when using the Webkit nightly builds
> instead of Safari, I'll describe the procedure of setting up mail
> aliases for MobileMe using the latest Webkit nightly build to log into
> your MobileMe web page and using DOM navigation for web navigation
> preferences.  Another general comment:  The web format of MobileMe
> appears to substitute the Control key for the Command key in normal
> Mac shortcut key sequences and preferences.  By that, I mean that if
> you have selected "Mail" from the MobileMe web options, you can reply
> to messages you read with Control-R instead of Command-R, compose new
> mail with Control-N instead of Command-N, forward messages with Shift-
> Control-F instead of Shift-Command-F, etc.  And the shortcut to bring
> up preferences for the MobileMe web form of mail is Control-Comma
> instead of Command-Comma.  This helps a lot if you want to use the
> MobileMe web pages to read and respond to your mail.  The other
> general comment is that when navigating to preferences use item
> chooser menu.  Somehow, the separate windows (for preferences and for
> the mail messages area) don't appear to be well separated under
> MobileMe's web site, and contents appear jumbled together.  So in
> order to move to the various preference panes, you won't be able to
> use window chooser menu to navigate; you're going to have to use item
> chooser menu to navigate to the pane selections, including the one for
> setting aliases.  I found I couldn't reliably activate the "Add new
> alias" link unless I had cursor tracking on.
>
> 1. Log in with your user name and password at MobileMe's web page  
> at: http://www.me.com
> (There is a setting under your local machine's mail accounts
> preferences (brought up with Command-Comma) where, if you select
> MobileMe as the account, there will be an "Edit E-mail aliases" button
> on the "Account Information" tab, but this only brings up he MobileMe
> web page  set to mail.  I find it much easier to ignore this and
> simply log into the MobileMe web page myself, then choose the "mail"
> and bring up mail preferences for the web page with Control-Comma.)
> For example, if your MobileMe email is address is
> "simoncavend...@me.com" you would type the part before the AT sign
> into the user name text edit field (e.g.,"simoncavendish"), then tab,
> then type in your MobileMe password.
>
> 2. After you've logged in, interact with the HTML area.  You're
> probably in your Mail utility, but in general, if you VO-Right arrow
> after interacting, you'll hear the different MobileMe selection option
> links announced: "Mail", "Contacts", "Calendar", "Gallery", "iDisk",
> and "Account Settings".  Press (VO-Space) on your selected link (in
> this case, use VO-Space on the first link, which is mail) to select
> this option.  As I said, I think this may default to "Mail" if there
> were no previous selections, and you can VO-Right arrow to the mailbox
> selections and then to the messages table.
>
> 3. Press Control-Comma to bring up your mail preferences.  I'll quote
> from "Take Control of MobileMe" for the description of preferences:
> 
> Configure MobileMe Mail Preferences
> When you choose  > Preferences, MobileMe presents five sets
> of preferences: General, Composing, Viewing, Aliases, and Other.
> Click one of those icons to display a view containing that category.
> When you’re finished modifying preferences (in one or more views),
> click the Save button at the bottom; to discard changes and return
> to your previous location, click Cancel.
> 
>
> 4. Use item chooser menu (VO-I) and start typing your selection, e.g.
> "Aliases", then carriage return or VO-Space to choose the item chooser
> menu option and be directed to the icon.  VO-Space to activate this
> menu option.
>
> 5. Use item chooser

Working with MobileMe web mail and setting up aliases [was Re: Setting aliases in mobileme]

2009-07-08 Thread Esther

Hello Simon,

Simon Cavendish wrote:

>
> Has anyone successfully set aliases in MobileMe with VO? I tried many
> times yesterday but failed. Any tips?
>

I have set up mail aliases in MobileMe, although I have to say that it  
was a lot easier to do in the previous incarnation as dot Mac.  You'll  
need to work with the web interface to MobileMe, which is where the  
current accessibility issues are.  I've found it much easier if I set  
my mouse cursor to track my VoiceOver cursor for the navigation  
options under VoiceOver utility, though I'm not sure it's necessary  
now for setting up aliases.  In the past there were some instances  
where I could not select with VO-Space, but had to click with VO-Shift- 
Space, in order to choose options.  If I didn't have cursor tracking  
turned on, I couldn't reliably make selections.  Since I've generally  
found that the accessible performance of the MobileMe web interface is  
better, or at least equally good when using the Webkit nightly builds  
instead of Safari, I'll describe the procedure of setting up mail  
aliases for MobileMe using the latest Webkit nightly build to log into  
your MobileMe web page and using DOM navigation for web navigation  
preferences.  Another general comment:  The web format of MobileMe  
appears to substitute the Control key for the Command key in normal  
Mac shortcut key sequences and preferences.  By that, I mean that if  
you have selected "Mail" from the MobileMe web options, you can reply  
to messages you read with Control-R instead of Command-R, compose new  
mail with Control-N instead of Command-N, forward messages with Shift- 
Control-F instead of Shift-Command-F, etc.  And the shortcut to bring  
up preferences for the MobileMe web form of mail is Control-Comma  
instead of Command-Comma.  This helps a lot if you want to use the  
MobileMe web pages to read and respond to your mail.  The other  
general comment is that when navigating to preferences use item  
chooser menu.  Somehow, the separate windows (for preferences and for  
the mail messages area) don't appear to be well separated under  
MobileMe's web site, and contents appear jumbled together.  So in  
order to move to the various preference panes, you won't be able to  
use window chooser menu to navigate; you're going to have to use item  
chooser menu to navigate to the pane selections, including the one for  
setting aliases.  I found I couldn't reliably activate the "Add new  
alias" link unless I had cursor tracking on.

1. Log in with your user name and password at MobileMe's web page at: 
http://www.me.com
(There is a setting under your local machine's mail accounts  
preferences (brought up with Command-Comma) where, if you select  
MobileMe as the account, there will be an "Edit E-mail aliases" button  
on the "Account Information" tab, but this only brings up he MobileMe  
web page  set to mail.  I find it much easier to ignore this and  
simply log into the MobileMe web page myself, then choose the "mail"  
and bring up mail preferences for the web page with Control-Comma.)   
For example, if your MobileMe email is address is  
"simoncavend...@me.com" you would type the part before the AT sign  
into the user name text edit field (e.g.,"simoncavendish"), then tab,  
then type in your MobileMe password.

2. After you've logged in, interact with the HTML area.  You're  
probably in your Mail utility, but in general, if you VO-Right arrow  
after interacting, you'll hear the different MobileMe selection option  
links announced: "Mail", "Contacts", "Calendar", "Gallery", "iDisk",  
and "Account Settings".  Press (VO-Space) on your selected link (in  
this case, use VO-Space on the first link, which is mail) to select  
this option.  As I said, I think this may default to "Mail" if there  
were no previous selections, and you can VO-Right arrow to the mailbox  
selections and then to the messages table.

3. Press Control-Comma to bring up your mail preferences.  I'll quote  
from "Take Control of MobileMe" for the description of preferences:

Configure MobileMe Mail Preferences
When you choose  > Preferences, MobileMe presents five sets
of preferences: General, Composing, Viewing, Aliases, and Other.
Click one of those icons to display a view containing that category.
When you’re finished modifying preferences (in one or more views),
click the Save button at the bottom; to discard changes and return
to your previous location, click Cancel.


4. Use item chooser menu (VO-I) and start typing your selection, e.g.  
"Aliases", then carriage return or VO-Space to choose the item chooser  
menu option and be directed to the icon.  VO-Space to activate this  
menu option.

5. Use item chooser menu again, and type "Alias". Arrow down to the  
entry for "Create or delete an Alias" and either press return or VO- 
Space to select it.

6. VO-Right arrow from "Create or delete an Alias".  If you have  
aliases you'll hear the following columns annouced: "Acti