Re: a friend having issues with Mail in Mountain Lion
I love reading mail on the I phone with a braille display. I prefer how it is displayed on an I phone rather than the Mac. I have to shift tab to delete a message, i.e., make sure I'm on the messaging table. I hate when mail comes in on to the Mac as you may have read three or four threads or in the middle of reading a thread and your cursor has gone back to the beginning of a thread. It makes me very annoyed. This doesn't happen on my I phone. Just my comments but I'm not complaining! Kawal. On 10 Oct 2012, at 21:47, Cheryl Homiak wrote: > These are not specifically issues having to do with threads and > conversations. I am using the new standard mail, not the classical view, but > I am not using any kind of threading. I find that I often have messages that > don't appear to be deleted and then when I finally go completely out of the > messages table and column I finally hear that the table is empty. I find this > annoying and it definitely slows me down! I used to just be able to give the > delete key a tap and the message was gone; now that doesn't happen a lot of > the time and i'm always concerned that I may not know where the focus is and > another email may have been deleted instead of the one I was trying to > delete. While I like the feature that has lines read when a message comes in > or when I am in the index, this can interrupt me when I'm reviewing something > else in the index. It is no longer as snappy and quick to run through a bunch > of mail as it used to be. I'm actually threatening to take most of my mail > reading either to the iPhone and/or back to Alpine in linux on vmware fusion. > Of course, part of the appeal of going back to Alpine is that I have braille > with my braillelite 40 in the vmware fusion environment ( I sure wish these > old serial devices could be full-fledged Mac players but I realize they are > old technology) but part of it is that mail on my mac, while still quite > doable, isn't as easy as it used to be. I kind of thought i must be doing > something that wasn't the best practice and hadn't researched this so hadn't > said anything on a list yet. I even tried hitting enter and then tabbing to > delete but that is unnecessarily slow in my opinion. I realize this post > isn't that helpful as I have no actual suggestions to give, but I didn't > realize quite how frustrated I am with the Apple mail situation until I saw > this post so I'm venting a little, and when I get going you get extra > irrelevant data at no extra cost, unless you are paying for the download of > my complaining. Don't get me wrong; I love my Mac and it is now my primary > OS, but mail sometimes really annoys me when I'm trying to run rapidly > through a bunch of messages. I've even considered whether the fact that I am > using imap contributes to this, but since I am using mail on two iPhones, my > Macbook pro, and sometimes Alpine in linux, it makes more sense to use imap. > Okay I'm done; you can all take your hands down off your ears now without > fear of losing precious hearing from listening to me yell! > > > > > -- > Cheryl > > May the words of my mouth > and the meditation of my heart > be acceptable to You, Lord, > my rock and my Redeemer. > (Psalm 19:14 HCSB) > > > > On Oct 10, 2012, at 3:23 PM, "Jeff Bishop" wrote: > >> Please see this message. Does anyone have any pointers that I might be able >> to pass along? >> >> Hello all, >> My name is Amber and I'm having some problems with Mac Mail in Mountain >> lion. I am using Gmail along with Mac mail. I have set up Gmail with its >> accompanying folders. I find that I am having trouble with voiceover in the >> conversations that I have created in Mac mail. I like the option to thread >> my replies, but I am finding that voiceover repeats the "conversation >> disclosure triangle" quite a bit when I arrow through messages. In >> addition, I am also having trouble deleting emails within threads. Sometimes >> when I use the backspace key, the messages within the threads are deleted. >> However, sometimes they are not, or the messages seem to be deleted, but the >> same message is read to me a few times. It is almost as if voiceover cannot >> catch up with my deletion of certain messages within the thread although I >> am not deleting them very quickly. In order for them to be permanently >> deleted, I have to hit command and W and close the entire thread. >> Another issue I am having is that sometimes command delete will delete the >> message and sometimes it will not. There are a few things that I have done >> to try to fix this problem. I have removed my Gmail account and put it back >> onto Mac mail. I have also gone into the view menu and changed it to classic >> mail view.. In the mail preferences under the view tab, list previews are >> turned off. Show headers is also said to none. Include all messages is >> also unchecked. Mark own messages as read
Re: a friend having issues with Mail in Mountain Lion
These are not specifically issues having to do with threads and conversations. I am using the new standard mail, not the classical view, but I am not using any kind of threading. I find that I often have messages that don't appear to be deleted and then when I finally go completely out of the messages table and column I finally hear that the table is empty. I find this annoying and it definitely slows me down! I used to just be able to give the delete key a tap and the message was gone; now that doesn't happen a lot of the time and i'm always concerned that I may not know where the focus is and another email may have been deleted instead of the one I was trying to delete. While I like the feature that has lines read when a message comes in or when I am in the index, this can interrupt me when I'm reviewing something else in the index. It is no longer as snappy and quick to run through a bunch of mail as it used to be. I'm actually threatening to take most of my mail reading either to the iPhone and/or back to Alpine in linux on vmware fusion. Of course, part of the appeal of going back to Alpine is that I have braille with my braillelite 40 in the vmware fusion environment ( I sure wish these old serial devices could be full-fledged Mac players but I realize they are old technology) but part of it is that mail on my mac, while still quite doable, isn't as easy as it used to be. I kind of thought i must be doing something that wasn't the best practice and hadn't researched this so hadn't said anything on a list yet. I even tried hitting enter and then tabbing to delete but that is unnecessarily slow in my opinion. I realize this post isn't that helpful as I have no actual suggestions to give, but I didn't realize quite how frustrated I am with the Apple mail situation until I saw this post so I'm venting a little, and when I get going you get extra irrelevant data at no extra cost, unless you are paying for the download of my complaining. Don't get me wrong; I love my Mac and it is now my primary OS, but mail sometimes really annoys me when I'm trying to run rapidly through a bunch of messages. I've even considered whether the fact that I am using imap contributes to this, but since I am using mail on two iPhones, my Macbook pro, and sometimes Alpine in linux, it makes more sense to use imap. Okay I'm done; you can all take your hands down off your ears now without fear of losing precious hearing from listening to me yell! -- Cheryl May the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be acceptable to You, Lord, my rock and my Redeemer. (Psalm 19:14 HCSB) On Oct 10, 2012, at 3:23 PM, "Jeff Bishop" wrote: > Please see this message. Does anyone have any pointers that I might be able > to pass along? > > Hello all, > My name is Amber and I'm having some problems with Mac Mail in Mountain lion. > I am using Gmail along with Mac mail. I have set up Gmail with its > accompanying folders. I find that I am having trouble with voiceover in the > conversations that I have created in Mac mail. I like the option to thread > my replies, but I am finding that voiceover repeats the "conversation > disclosure triangle" quite a bit when I arrow through messages. In addition, > I am also having trouble deleting emails within threads. Sometimes when I use > the backspace key, the messages within the threads are deleted. However, > sometimes they are not, or the messages seem to be deleted, but the same > message is read to me a few times. It is almost as if voiceover cannot catch > up with my deletion of certain messages within the thread although I am not > deleting them very quickly. In order for them to be permanently deleted, I > have to hit command and W and close the entire thread. > Another issue I am having is that sometimes command delete will delete the > message and sometimes it will not. There are a few things that I have done to > try to fix this problem. I have removed my Gmail account and put it back onto > Mac mail. I have also gone into the view menu and changed it to classic mail > view.. In the mail preferences under the view tab, list previews are turned > off. Show headers is also said to none. Include all messages is also > unchecked. Mark own messages as read this unchecked. Should this be checked? > I am running Mountain lion OS 10 on a MacBook. Not a pro. It is about two > years old. I have done all updates to Mountain lion just today. > I have also noted that voiceover is a bit sluggish on my machine. Sometimes > it takes a while to catch up to what I'm doing. > If anyone could help I would greatly appreciated. You can email me at > amber.wall...@gmail.com. Thank you. > Sincerely, > Amber > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email tomacvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email > tomacv
a friend having issues with Mail in Mountain Lion
Please see this message. Does anyone have any pointers that I might be able to pass along? Hello all, My name is Amber and I'm having some problems with Mac Mail in Mountain lion. I am using Gmail along with Mac mail. I have set up Gmail with its accompanying folders. I find that I am having trouble with voiceover in the conversations that I have created in Mac mail. I like the option to thread my replies, but I am finding that voiceover repeats the "conversation disclosure triangle" quite a bit when I arrow through messages. In addition, I am also having trouble deleting emails within threads. Sometimes when I use the backspace key, the messages within the threads are deleted. However, sometimes they are not, or the messages seem to be deleted, but the same message is read to me a few times. It is almost as if voiceover cannot catch up with my deletion of certain messages within the thread although I am not deleting them very quickly. In order for them to be permanently deleted, I have to hit command and W and close the entire thread. Another issue I am having is that sometimes command delete will delete the message and sometimes it will not. There are a few things that I have done to try to fix this problem. I have removed my Gmail account and put it back onto Mac mail. I have also gone into the view menu and changed it to classic mail view.. In the mail preferences under the view tab, list previews are turned off. Show headers is also said to none. Include all messages is also unchecked. Mark own messages as read this unchecked. Should this be checked? I am running Mountain lion OS 10 on a MacBook. Not a pro. It is about two years old. I have done all updates to Mountain lion just today. I have also noted that voiceover is a bit sluggish on my machine. Sometimes it takes a while to catch up to what I'm doing. If anyone could help I would greatly appreciated. You can email me at amber.wall...@gmail.com. Thank you. Sincerely, Amber -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
