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Okay, here is the steps I followed, and it happens to me every time on my iPhone for S. Number one search for place or get one from my places. Number to simulate the location. Number three I think it will do this also if you do tracking. Number four press the home key again, and go to the app switcher. Five try to edit the apps with double tap and hold using voice over. I have no idea what you do if you're not using voice over. I have had to restart the phone before to make the app switcher behave properly after this. Regards, GG Sent from my iPhone On Jun 29, 2013, at 12:38 PM, Ilkka Pirttimaa ilkka.pirtti...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Eugenia! I have not able to reproduce this. To understand it better, can you explain in which phase it works differently for you? I describe my steps here: 1) Press Home to close BlindSquare 2) Double tap home to open App Switcher 3) Select BlindSquare 4) Double tap and hold until you hear Editing apps 5) Double tap 6) Press Home to close App Switcher That will close BlindSquare. On Sat, Jun 29, 2013 at 4:17 PM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi again As far as I remember, that is right that it's not just BlindSquare that I couldn't stop. However, for some weird reason, and it may be an iOS thing like you say, I have never had this happen when exiting any other program. I have Navigon On my iPhone also, and it has never done this with the app switcher. However it wants not to stop either. So, like you say, it is probably something you can't do anything about. Regards, Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Jun 29, 2013, at 4:52 AM, Ilkka Pirttimaa ilkka.pirtti...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, try that out. The thing you describe is something that app has no control of, so it's iOS feature/problem. I believe you can't stop any other app either? On Sat, Jun 29, 2013 at 12:42 PM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Thanks. I did not know about 15 minutes that it would stop anyway. However, I am having a problem using the app switcher to close the program after I go in to BlindSquare. The husband turn voiceover off, and he had the same problem. I had to restart the iPhone. What happens is using voice over you have to double tap and hold in order to get into the edit apps to take them off of the app switcher. However the app switcher refuses to go into the editing feature and instead opens whatever program you Happened to touch. If I restart the iPhone, it doesn't do that. This is really weird, and I have never seen this happen before. However, now that I know about 15 minutes, maybe I'll just leave it alone since I have a for S iPhone. Regards, Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Jun 29, 2013, at 12:42 AM, Ilkka Pirttimaa ilkka.pirtti...@gmail.com wrote: Hello! This has nothing to do with if it detects if you are home or not, it is just that you have set it to run in background and it will until you stop it. In iOS 6 there is feature that will stop it automatically after a while anyway (you will hear it announced when it does) so it will not take battery more than 15 minutes or so. There might be limitations on which device models it does this, I think it needs at least 4S model. You can always stop it from App Switcher and it is the best way if you want to use all background features. Maybe someone on this list can help you how to do it with voiceover. There are other options too, you can find more info from here: http://blindsquare.com/faq/#why-does-it-keep-talking On Sat, Jun 29, 2013 at 2:32 AM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi there I am still too new to Blind Square to start saying what I want as features. There are some other programs that I can mention, like TapTapSee, just to name one, that I love. I do have a question, however, that I intended to put on the list anyway. Has anybody had trouble closing Blind Square? I have had a weird problem that if I want to close the program, and I go to the app switcher, and press double tap and hold to edit applications, the iPhone wants to open the program instead of going to edit apps. The reason I want to close it is because if I have put in a destination, and the program thinks I'm not there, it keeps talking and won't stop. This is because, for instance, my house is at 1019, but the program thinks I'm at 1015, which, by the way, is better than some GPS programs I've used. So far, this is the only thing that I had trouble with. Maybe I'm doing something wrong. Regards, Gigi On Jun 28, 2013, at 4:23 PM, Ilkka Pirttimaa ilkka.pirtti...@gmail.com wrote: Hello you all! Thank you Eugenia for this nice posting where you describe so well the level of independence an iDevice can make possible. If Apple develops their products with great vision without interacting with end user too much, I develop BlindSquare together with end users, bit by bit bringing
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My steps were for VoiceOver too. When toy double tap and hold, do you hear Editings apps? On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 3:53 PM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Okay, here is the steps I followed, and it happens to me every time on my iPhone for S. Number one search for place or get one from my places. Number to simulate the location. Number three I think it will do this also if you do tracking. Number four press the home key again, and go to the app switcher. Five try to edit the apps with double tap and hold using voice over. I have no idea what you do if you're not using voice over. I have had to restart the phone before to make the app switcher behave properly after this. Regards, GG Sent from my iPhone On Jun 29, 2013, at 12:38 PM, Ilkka Pirttimaa ilkka.pirtti...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Eugenia! I have not able to reproduce this. To understand it better, can you explain in which phase it works differently for you? I describe my steps here: 1) Press Home to close BlindSquare 2) Double tap home to open App Switcher 3) Select BlindSquare 4) Double tap and hold until you hear Editing apps 5) Double tap 6) Press Home to close App Switcher That will close BlindSquare. On Sat, Jun 29, 2013 at 4:17 PM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi again As far as I remember, that is right that it's not just BlindSquare that I couldn't stop. However, for some weird reason, and it may be an iOS thing like you say, I have never had this happen when exiting any other program. I have Navigon On my iPhone also, and it has never done this with the app switcher. However it wants not to stop either. So, like you say, it is probably something you can't do anything about. Regards, Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Jun 29, 2013, at 4:52 AM, Ilkka Pirttimaa ilkka.pirtti...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, try that out. The thing you describe is something that app has no control of, so it's iOS feature/problem. I believe you can't stop any other app either? On Sat, Jun 29, 2013 at 12:42 PM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Thanks. I did not know about 15 minutes that it would stop anyway. However, I am having a problem using the app switcher to close the program after I go in to BlindSquare. The husband turn voiceover off, and he had the same problem. I had to restart the iPhone. What happens is using voice over you have to double tap and hold in order to get into the edit apps to take them off of the app switcher. However the app switcher refuses to go into the editing feature and instead opens whatever program you Happened to touch. If I restart the iPhone, it doesn't do that. This is really weird, and I have never seen this happen before. However, now that I know about 15 minutes, maybe I'll just leave it alone since I have a for S iPhone. Regards, Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Jun 29, 2013, at 12:42 AM, Ilkka Pirttimaa ilkka.pirtti...@gmail.com wrote: Hello! This has nothing to do with if it detects if you are home or not, it is just that you have set it to run in background and it will until you stop it. In iOS 6 there is feature that will stop it automatically after a while anyway (you will hear it announced when it does) so it will not take battery more than 15 minutes or so. There might be limitations on which device models it does this, I think it needs at least 4S model. You can always stop it from App Switcher and it is the best way if you want to use all background features. Maybe someone on this list can help you how to do it with voiceover. There are other options too, you can find more info from here: http://blindsquare.com/faq/#why-does-it-keep-talking On Sat, Jun 29, 2013 at 2:32 AM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi there I am still too new to Blind Square to start saying what I want as features. There are some other programs that I can mention, like TapTapSee, just to name one, that I love. I do have a question, however, that I intended to put on the list anyway. Has anybody had trouble closing Blind Square? I have had a weird problem that if I want to close the program, and I go to the app switcher, and press double tap and hold to edit applications, the iPhone wants to open the program instead of going to edit apps. The reason I want to close it is because if I have put in a destination, and the program thinks I'm not there, it keeps talking and won't stop. This is because, for instance, my house is at 1019, but the program thinks I'm at 1015, which, by the way, is better than some GPS programs I've used. So far, this is the only thing that I had trouble with. Maybe I'm doing something wrong. Regards, Gigi On Jun 28, 2013, at 4:23 PM, Ilkka Pirttimaa ilkka.pirtti...@gmail.com wrote: Hello you all! Thank you Eugenia for this nice posting where you describe so well the level of independence an iDevice can make possible. If Apple develops their products with great vision without
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Thanks. I did not know about 15 minutes that it would stop anyway. However, I am having a problem using the app switcher to close the program after I go in to BlindSquare. The husband turn voiceover off, and he had the same problem. I had to restart the iPhone. What happens is using voice over you have to double tap and hold in order to get into the edit apps to take them off of the app switcher. However the app switcher refuses to go into the editing feature and instead opens whatever program you Happened to touch. If I restart the iPhone, it doesn't do that. This is really weird, and I have never seen this happen before. However, now that I know about 15 minutes, maybe I'll just leave it alone since I have a for S iPhone. Regards, Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Jun 29, 2013, at 12:42 AM, Ilkka Pirttimaa ilkka.pirtti...@gmail.com wrote: Hello! This has nothing to do with if it detects if you are home or not, it is just that you have set it to run in background and it will until you stop it. In iOS 6 there is feature that will stop it automatically after a while anyway (you will hear it announced when it does) so it will not take battery more than 15 minutes or so. There might be limitations on which device models it does this, I think it needs at least 4S model. You can always stop it from App Switcher and it is the best way if you want to use all background features. Maybe someone on this list can help you how to do it with voiceover. There are other options too, you can find more info from here: http://blindsquare.com/faq/#why-does-it-keep-talking On Sat, Jun 29, 2013 at 2:32 AM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi there I am still too new to Blind Square to start saying what I want as features. There are some other programs that I can mention, like TapTapSee, just to name one, that I love. I do have a question, however, that I intended to put on the list anyway. Has anybody had trouble closing Blind Square? I have had a weird problem that if I want to close the program, and I go to the app switcher, and press double tap and hold to edit applications, the iPhone wants to open the program instead of going to edit apps. The reason I want to close it is because if I have put in a destination, and the program thinks I'm not there, it keeps talking and won't stop. This is because, for instance, my house is at 1019, but the program thinks I'm at 1015, which, by the way, is better than some GPS programs I've used. So far, this is the only thing that I had trouble with. Maybe I'm doing something wrong. Regards, Gigi On Jun 28, 2013, at 4:23 PM, Ilkka Pirttimaa ilkka.pirtti...@gmail.com wrote: Hello you all! Thank you Eugenia for this nice posting where you describe so well the level of independence an iDevice can make possible. If Apple develops their products with great vision without interacting with end user too much, I develop BlindSquare together with end users, bit by bit bringing it to the level you could never get by traditional development style. I welcome you all to take part of this journey by giving your ideas what you would like to see in future versions. BR, Ilkka, BlindSquare dev On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 3:46 PM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi guys When I started out thinking about an accessible phone, I never dreamed that I would get a device that would have a GPS like BlindSquare on it and that I could get a restaurant menu on it with a braille display. I never dreamed of a program where I could take pictures of an item in my refrigerator or a can in my cabinet and find out what the thing was. When people talked about the camera, I remember thinking Well, who cares! I remember Johnathan you doing a podcast or some kind of presentation for Freedom Scientific talking about braille displays with an iPhone and I was sitting there thinking about what a stupid idea this was to have a braille display hooked up to a phone of all things. I remember saying to myself: Why would anybody want music, email, etc. on a phone of all things? Of course, guess what I have on my iPhone these days! I just plain flat didn't get it what things I could do with an iPhone. I kept thinking of it as a phone instead of a little bitty computer with the ability to make phone calls. I have a blind friend who has decided she will an iPhone eventually, but she doesn't get yet either. She keeps saying to me: Well, I can do all that right now. I guess she won't get it either until she gets one herself. She would love BlindSquare, but she doesn't know it yet. It's a case of finding out you wanted something you didn't know you wanted until you got it. Regards, Gigi On Jun 27, 2013, at 5:51 PM, Kerri shalo...@shaw.ca wrote: *grin, seriously addicted grin. On 2013-06-27, at 2:13 PM, Chenelle Hancock filmchenelle1...@gmail.com wrote: Hello everyone,
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Yes, try that out. The thing you describe is something that app has no control of, so it's iOS feature/problem. I believe you can't stop any other app either? On Sat, Jun 29, 2013 at 12:42 PM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Thanks. I did not know about 15 minutes that it would stop anyway. However, I am having a problem using the app switcher to close the program after I go in to BlindSquare. The husband turn voiceover off, and he had the same problem. I had to restart the iPhone. What happens is using voice over you have to double tap and hold in order to get into the edit apps to take them off of the app switcher. However the app switcher refuses to go into the editing feature and instead opens whatever program you Happened to touch. If I restart the iPhone, it doesn't do that. This is really weird, and I have never seen this happen before. However, now that I know about 15 minutes, maybe I'll just leave it alone since I have a for S iPhone. Regards, Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Jun 29, 2013, at 12:42 AM, Ilkka Pirttimaa ilkka.pirtti...@gmail.com wrote: Hello! This has nothing to do with if it detects if you are home or not, it is just that you have set it to run in background and it will until you stop it. In iOS 6 there is feature that will stop it automatically after a while anyway (you will hear it announced when it does) so it will not take battery more than 15 minutes or so. There might be limitations on which device models it does this, I think it needs at least 4S model. You can always stop it from App Switcher and it is the best way if you want to use all background features. Maybe someone on this list can help you how to do it with voiceover. There are other options too, you can find more info from here: http://blindsquare.com/faq/#why-does-it-keep-talking On Sat, Jun 29, 2013 at 2:32 AM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi there I am still too new to Blind Square to start saying what I want as features. There are some other programs that I can mention, like TapTapSee, just to name one, that I love. I do have a question, however, that I intended to put on the list anyway. Has anybody had trouble closing Blind Square? I have had a weird problem that if I want to close the program, and I go to the app switcher, and press double tap and hold to edit applications, the iPhone wants to open the program instead of going to edit apps. The reason I want to close it is because if I have put in a destination, and the program thinks I'm not there, it keeps talking and won't stop. This is because, for instance, my house is at 1019, but the program thinks I'm at 1015, which, by the way, is better than some GPS programs I've used. So far, this is the only thing that I had trouble with. Maybe I'm doing something wrong. Regards, Gigi On Jun 28, 2013, at 4:23 PM, Ilkka Pirttimaa ilkka.pirtti...@gmail.com wrote: Hello you all! Thank you Eugenia for this nice posting where you describe so well the level of independence an iDevice can make possible. If Apple develops their products with great vision without interacting with end user too much, I develop BlindSquare together with end users, bit by bit bringing it to the level you could never get by traditional development style. I welcome you all to take part of this journey by giving your ideas what you would like to see in future versions. BR, Ilkka, BlindSquare dev On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 3:46 PM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi guys When I started out thinking about an accessible phone, I never dreamed that I would get a device that would have a GPS like BlindSquare on it and that I could get a restaurant menu on it with a braille display. I never dreamed of a program where I could take pictures of an item in my refrigerator or a can in my cabinet and find out what the thing was. When people talked about the camera, I remember thinking Well, who cares! I remember Johnathan you doing a podcast or some kind of presentation for Freedom Scientific talking about braille displays with an iPhone and I was sitting there thinking about what a stupid idea this was to have a braille display hooked up to a phone of all things. I remember saying to myself: Why would anybody want music, email, etc. on a phone of all things? Of course, guess what I have on my iPhone these days! I just plain flat didn't get it what things I could do with an iPhone. I kept thinking of it as a phone instead of a little bitty computer with the ability to make phone calls. I have a blind friend who has decided she will an iPhone eventually, but she doesn't get yet either. She keeps saying to me: Well, I can do all that right now. I guess she won't get it either until she gets one herself. She would love BlindSquare, but she doesn't know it yet. It's a case of finding out you wanted something you didn't know you wanted until you got it. Regards, Gigi On Jun 27, 2013, at
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Hi again As far as I remember, that is right that it's not just BlindSquare that I couldn't stop. However, for some weird reason, and it may be an iOS thing like you say, I have never had this happen when exiting any other program. I have Navigon On my iPhone also, and it has never done this with the app switcher. However it wants not to stop either. So, like you say, it is probably something you can't do anything about. Regards, Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Jun 29, 2013, at 4:52 AM, Ilkka Pirttimaa ilkka.pirtti...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, try that out. The thing you describe is something that app has no control of, so it's iOS feature/problem. I believe you can't stop any other app either? On Sat, Jun 29, 2013 at 12:42 PM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Thanks. I did not know about 15 minutes that it would stop anyway. However, I am having a problem using the app switcher to close the program after I go in to BlindSquare. The husband turn voiceover off, and he had the same problem. I had to restart the iPhone. What happens is using voice over you have to double tap and hold in order to get into the edit apps to take them off of the app switcher. However the app switcher refuses to go into the editing feature and instead opens whatever program you Happened to touch. If I restart the iPhone, it doesn't do that. This is really weird, and I have never seen this happen before. However, now that I know about 15 minutes, maybe I'll just leave it alone since I have a for S iPhone. Regards, Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Jun 29, 2013, at 12:42 AM, Ilkka Pirttimaa ilkka.pirtti...@gmail.com wrote: Hello! This has nothing to do with if it detects if you are home or not, it is just that you have set it to run in background and it will until you stop it. In iOS 6 there is feature that will stop it automatically after a while anyway (you will hear it announced when it does) so it will not take battery more than 15 minutes or so. There might be limitations on which device models it does this, I think it needs at least 4S model. You can always stop it from App Switcher and it is the best way if you want to use all background features. Maybe someone on this list can help you how to do it with voiceover. There are other options too, you can find more info from here: http://blindsquare.com/faq/#why-does-it-keep-talking On Sat, Jun 29, 2013 at 2:32 AM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi there I am still too new to Blind Square to start saying what I want as features. There are some other programs that I can mention, like TapTapSee, just to name one, that I love. I do have a question, however, that I intended to put on the list anyway. Has anybody had trouble closing Blind Square? I have had a weird problem that if I want to close the program, and I go to the app switcher, and press double tap and hold to edit applications, the iPhone wants to open the program instead of going to edit apps. The reason I want to close it is because if I have put in a destination, and the program thinks I'm not there, it keeps talking and won't stop. This is because, for instance, my house is at 1019, but the program thinks I'm at 1015, which, by the way, is better than some GPS programs I've used. So far, this is the only thing that I had trouble with. Maybe I'm doing something wrong. Regards, Gigi On Jun 28, 2013, at 4:23 PM, Ilkka Pirttimaa ilkka.pirtti...@gmail.com wrote: Hello you all! Thank you Eugenia for this nice posting where you describe so well the level of independence an iDevice can make possible. If Apple develops their products with great vision without interacting with end user too much, I develop BlindSquare together with end users, bit by bit bringing it to the level you could never get by traditional development style. I welcome you all to take part of this journey by giving your ideas what you would like to see in future versions. BR, Ilkka, BlindSquare dev On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 3:46 PM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi guys When I started out thinking about an accessible phone, I never dreamed that I would get a device that would have a GPS like BlindSquare on it and that I could get a restaurant menu on it with a braille display. I never dreamed of a program where I could take pictures of an item in my refrigerator or a can in my cabinet and find out what the thing was. When people talked about the camera, I remember thinking Well, who cares! I remember Johnathan you doing a podcast or some kind of presentation for Freedom Scientific talking about braille displays with an iPhone and I was sitting there thinking about what a stupid idea this was to have a braille display hooked up to a phone of all things. I remember saying to myself: Why would anybody want music, email, etc. on a phone of all things? Of course, guess what I
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I don't like Blind Square but am using it whilst waiting for the new Sendero App. Blind Square keeps going to sleep if you stand still and it won't wake up unless your open the phone after it's been locked. I keep it locked to preserve battery. I just wish it would wake up automatically once you started walking or moving again. Kawal. On 29 Jun 2013, at 00:37, Red.Falcon velocity.focu...@virginmedia.com wrote: I also would like this info! I have the same thing! Colin On 29 Jun 2013, at 00:32, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi there I am still too new to Blind Square to start saying what I want as features. There are some other programs that I can mention, like TapTapSee, just to name one, that I love. I do have a question, however, that I intended to put on the list anyway. Has anybody had trouble closing Blind Square? I have had a weird problem that if I want to close the program, and I go to the app switcher, and press double tap and hold to edit applications, the iPhone wants to open the program instead of going to edit apps. The reason I want to close it is because if I have put in a destination, and the program thinks I'm not there, it keeps talking and won't stop. This is because, for instance, my house is at 1019, but the program thinks I'm at 1015, which, by the way, is better than some GPS programs I've used. So far, this is the only thing that I had trouble with. Maybe I'm doing something wrong. Regards, Gigi On Jun 28, 2013, at 4:23 PM, Ilkka Pirttimaa ilkka.pirtti...@gmail.com wrote: Hello you all! Thank you Eugenia for this nice posting where you describe so well the level of independence an iDevice can make possible. If Apple develops their products with great vision without interacting with end user too much, I develop BlindSquare together with end users, bit by bit bringing it to the level you could never get by traditional development style. I welcome you all to take part of this journey by giving your ideas what you would like to see in future versions. BR, Ilkka, BlindSquare dev On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 3:46 PM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi guys When I started out thinking about an accessible phone, I never dreamed that I would get a device that would have a GPS like BlindSquare on it and that I could get a restaurant menu on it with a braille display. I never dreamed of a program where I could take pictures of an item in my refrigerator or a can in my cabinet and find out what the thing was. When people talked about the camera, I remember thinking Well, who cares! I remember Johnathan you doing a podcast or some kind of presentation for Freedom Scientific talking about braille displays with an iPhone and I was sitting there thinking about what a stupid idea this was to have a braille display hooked up to a phone of all things. I remember saying to myself: Why would anybody want music, email, etc. on a phone of all things? Of course, guess what I have on my iPhone these days! I just plain flat didn't get it what things I could do with an iPhone. I kept thinking of it as a phone instead of a little bitty computer with the ability to make phone calls. I have a blind friend who has decided she will an iPhone eventually, but she doesn't get yet either. She keeps saying to me: Well, I can do all that right now. I guess she won't get it either until she gets one herself. She would love BlindSquare, but she doesn't know it yet. It's a case of finding out you wanted something you didn't know you wanted until you got it. Regards, Gigi On Jun 27, 2013, at 5:51 PM, Kerri shalo...@shaw.ca wrote: *grin, seriously addicted grin. On 2013-06-27, at 2:13 PM, Chenelle Hancock filmchenelle1...@gmail.com wrote: Hello everyone, I have been an apple I Phone user Since October 31, 209. When I first purchased my very first I Phone 3. g s. I had never texted anyone that I knew with a smart phone. I didn't have the proper access to a smart phone where I could text, send email or instant messages let alone download music and video content. Without having sighted assistancevery. So when I had my brand new I phone inside of my hands. I was so elated with joy I did not know what to do with myself at first. Now I cannot ever see myself with out one. Now I not only have an I phone 4. s. But I have a makdck book pro and a time capsule along with an I pad mini and and finally I have a Apple TV. That Is how invested in all things apple that I am at the moment. For the record I will never go back to the Windows operating system ever again as long as I live. Sincerely, Chenelle -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to
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Hello Eugenia! I have not able to reproduce this. To understand it better, can you explain in which phase it works differently for you? I describe my steps here: 1) Press Home to close BlindSquare 2) Double tap home to open App Switcher 3) Select BlindSquare 4) Double tap and hold until you hear Editing apps 5) Double tap 6) Press Home to close App Switcher That will close BlindSquare. On Sat, Jun 29, 2013 at 4:17 PM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi again As far as I remember, that is right that it's not just BlindSquare that I couldn't stop. However, for some weird reason, and it may be an iOS thing like you say, I have never had this happen when exiting any other program. I have Navigon On my iPhone also, and it has never done this with the app switcher. However it wants not to stop either. So, like you say, it is probably something you can't do anything about. Regards, Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Jun 29, 2013, at 4:52 AM, Ilkka Pirttimaa ilkka.pirtti...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, try that out. The thing you describe is something that app has no control of, so it's iOS feature/problem. I believe you can't stop any other app either? On Sat, Jun 29, 2013 at 12:42 PM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Thanks. I did not know about 15 minutes that it would stop anyway. However, I am having a problem using the app switcher to close the program after I go in to BlindSquare. The husband turn voiceover off, and he had the same problem. I had to restart the iPhone. What happens is using voice over you have to double tap and hold in order to get into the edit apps to take them off of the app switcher. However the app switcher refuses to go into the editing feature and instead opens whatever program you Happened to touch. If I restart the iPhone, it doesn't do that. This is really weird, and I have never seen this happen before. However, now that I know about 15 minutes, maybe I'll just leave it alone since I have a for S iPhone. Regards, Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Jun 29, 2013, at 12:42 AM, Ilkka Pirttimaa ilkka.pirtti...@gmail.com wrote: Hello! This has nothing to do with if it detects if you are home or not, it is just that you have set it to run in background and it will until you stop it. In iOS 6 there is feature that will stop it automatically after a while anyway (you will hear it announced when it does) so it will not take battery more than 15 minutes or so. There might be limitations on which device models it does this, I think it needs at least 4S model. You can always stop it from App Switcher and it is the best way if you want to use all background features. Maybe someone on this list can help you how to do it with voiceover. There are other options too, you can find more info from here: http://blindsquare.com/faq/#why-does-it-keep-talking On Sat, Jun 29, 2013 at 2:32 AM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi there I am still too new to Blind Square to start saying what I want as features. There are some other programs that I can mention, like TapTapSee, just to name one, that I love. I do have a question, however, that I intended to put on the list anyway. Has anybody had trouble closing Blind Square? I have had a weird problem that if I want to close the program, and I go to the app switcher, and press double tap and hold to edit applications, the iPhone wants to open the program instead of going to edit apps. The reason I want to close it is because if I have put in a destination, and the program thinks I'm not there, it keeps talking and won't stop. This is because, for instance, my house is at 1019, but the program thinks I'm at 1015, which, by the way, is better than some GPS programs I've used. So far, this is the only thing that I had trouble with. Maybe I'm doing something wrong. Regards, Gigi On Jun 28, 2013, at 4:23 PM, Ilkka Pirttimaa ilkka.pirtti...@gmail.com wrote: Hello you all! Thank you Eugenia for this nice posting where you describe so well the level of independence an iDevice can make possible. If Apple develops their products with great vision without interacting with end user too much, I develop BlindSquare together with end users, bit by bit bringing it to the level you could never get by traditional development style. I welcome you all to take part of this journey by giving your ideas what you would like to see in future versions. BR, Ilkka, BlindSquare dev On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 3:46 PM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi guys When I started out thinking about an accessible phone, I never dreamed that I would get a device that would have a GPS like BlindSquare on it and that I could get a restaurant menu on it with a braille display. I never dreamed of a program where I could take pictures of an item in my refrigerator or a can in my cabinet and find out what the thing was. When people talked about the camera, I remember thinking Well, who
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Hi guys When I started out thinking about an accessible phone, I never dreamed that I would get a device that would have a GPS like BlindSquare on it and that I could get a restaurant menu on it with a braille display. I never dreamed of a program where I could take pictures of an item in my refrigerator or a can in my cabinet and find out what the thing was. When people talked about the camera, I remember thinking Well, who cares! I remember Johnathan you doing a podcast or some kind of presentation for Freedom Scientific talking about braille displays with an iPhone and I was sitting there thinking about what a stupid idea this was to have a braille display hooked up to a phone of all things. I remember saying to myself: Why would anybody want music, email, etc. on a phone of all things? Of course, guess what I have on my iPhone these days! I just plain flat didn't get it what things I could do with an iPhone. I kept thinking of it as a phone instead of a little bitty computer with the ability to make phone calls. I have a blind friend who has decided she will an iPhone eventually, but she doesn't get yet either. She keeps saying to me: Well, I can do all that right now. I guess she won't get it either until she gets one herself. She would love BlindSquare, but she doesn't know it yet. It's a case of finding out you wanted something you didn't know you wanted until you got it. Regards, Gigi On Jun 27, 2013, at 5:51 PM, Kerri shalo...@shaw.ca wrote: *grin, seriously addicted grin. On 2013-06-27, at 2:13 PM, Chenelle Hancock filmchenelle1...@gmail.com wrote: Hello everyone, I have been an apple I Phone user Since October 31, 209. When I first purchased my very first I Phone 3. g s. I had never texted anyone that I knew with a smart phone. I didn't have the proper access to a smart phone where I could text, send email or instant messages let alone download music and video content. Without having sighted assistancevery. So when I had my brand new I phone inside of my hands. I was so elated with joy I did not know what to do with myself at first. Now I cannot ever see myself with out one. Now I not only have an I phone 4. s. But I have a makdck book pro and a time capsule along with an I pad mini and and finally I have a Apple TV. That Is how invested in all things apple that I am at the moment. For the record I will never go back to the Windows operating system ever again as long as I live. Sincerely, Chenelle -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
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I have a vague recollection of Jobs talking about how they don't do user testing because users don't know what they want until [Apple] shows it to them. That must be a difficult space to navigate as you're pretty much guessing what a user might want if they knew it existed. It also means this sort of leap for consumers that's hard to explain to people outside the 'club'. If you just did checklists and features you might (and people often do) that there is no difference between a Mac or an iPhone and their contemporaries in the market, but there is something different that is just subtle. Like trying to explain how something good tastes to somebody who has never tried it. Ahh, turned these up from Job's biography with some googling: At a 1982 planning retreat, someone on the Mac team, thought they should do some market research to see what customers wanted. 'No,' [Jobs] replied, 'because customers don't know what they want until we've shown them.' On the day he unveiled the Macintosh, a reporter from Popular Science asked Jobs what type of market research he had done. Jobs responded by scoffing, 'Did Alexander Graham Bell do any market research before he invented the phone?' Jobs: Some people say, 'Give customers what they want.' But that's not my approach. Our job is to figure out what they're going to want before they do. I think Henry Ford once said, 'If I'd asked customers what they wanted, they would have told me, A faster horse!' People don't know what they want until you show it to them. That's why I never rely on market research. Our task is to read things that are not yet on the page. CB On 6/28/13 8:46 AM, Eugenia Firth wrote: Hi guys When I started out thinking about an accessible phone, I never dreamed that I would get a device that would have a GPS like BlindSquare on it and that I could get a restaurant menu on it with a braille display. I never dreamed of a program where I could take pictures of an item in my refrigerator or a can in my cabinet and find out what the thing was. When people talked about the camera, I remember thinking Well, who cares! I remember Johnathan you doing a podcast or some kind of presentation for Freedom Scientific talking about braille displays with an iPhone and I was sitting there thinking about what a stupid idea this was to have a braille display hooked up to a phone of all things. I remember saying to myself: Why would anybody want music, email, etc. on a phone of all things? Of course, guess what I have on my iPhone these days! I just plain flat didn't get it what things I could do with an iPhone. I kept thinking of it as a phone instead of a little bitty computer with the ability to make phone calls. I have a blind friend who has decided she will an iPhone eventually, but she doesn't get yet either. She keeps saying to me: Well, I can do all that right now. I guess she won't get it either until she gets one herself. She would love BlindSquare, but she doesn't know it yet. It's a case of finding out you wanted something you didn't know you wanted until you got it. Regards, Gigi On Jun 27, 2013, at 5:51 PM, Kerri shalo...@shaw.ca mailto:shalo...@shaw.ca wrote: *grin, seriously addicted grin. On 2013-06-27, at 2:13 PM, Chenelle Hancock filmchenelle1...@gmail.com mailto:filmchenelle1...@gmail.com wrote: Hello everyone, I have been an apple I Phone user Since October 31, 209. When I first purchased my very first I Phone 3. g s. I had never texted anyone that I knew with a smart phone. I didn't have the proper access to a smart phone where I could text, send email or instant messages let alone download music and video content. Without having sighted assistancevery. So when I had my brand new I phone inside of my hands. I was so elated with joy I did not know what to do with myself at first. Now I cannot ever see myself with out one. Now I not only have an I phone 4. s. But I have a makdck book pro and a time capsule along with an I pad mini and and finally I have a Apple TV. That Is how invested in all things apple that I am at the moment. For the record I will never go back to the Windows operating system ever again as long as I live. Sincerely, Chenelle -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to
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Well the point is these days, does Tim Cook know what we want, he has a funny voice but I wonder if he has vision as Steve Jobs did. On 28 Jun 2013, at 15:34, Chris Blouch cblo...@aol.com wrote: I have a vague recollection of Jobs talking about how they don't do user testing because users don't know what they want until [Apple] shows it to them. That must be a difficult space to navigate as you're pretty much guessing what a user might want if they knew it existed. It also means this sort of leap for consumers that's hard to explain to people outside the 'club'. If you just did checklists and features you might (and people often do) that there is no difference between a Mac or an iPhone and their contemporaries in the market, but there is something different that is just subtle. Like trying to explain how something good tastes to somebody who has never tried it. Ahh, turned these up from Job's biography with some googling: At a 1982 planning retreat, someone on the Mac team, thought they should do some market research to see what customers wanted. 'No,' [Jobs] replied, 'because customers don't know what they want until we've shown them.' On the day he unveiled the Macintosh, a reporter from Popular Science asked Jobs what type of market research he had done. Jobs responded by scoffing, 'Did Alexander Graham Bell do any market research before he invented the phone?' Jobs: Some people say, 'Give customers what they want.' But that's not my approach. Our job is to figure out what they're going to want before they do. I think Henry Ford once said, 'If I'd asked customers what they wanted, they would have told me, A faster horse!' People don't know what they want until you show it to them. That's why I never rely on market research. Our task is to read things that are not yet on the page. CB On 6/28/13 8:46 AM, Eugenia Firth wrote: Hi guys When I started out thinking about an accessible phone, I never dreamed that I would get a device that would have a GPS like BlindSquare on it and that I could get a restaurant menu on it with a braille display. I never dreamed of a program where I could take pictures of an item in my refrigerator or a can in my cabinet and find out what the thing was. When people talked about the camera, I remember thinking Well, who cares! I remember Johnathan you doing a podcast or some kind of presentation for Freedom Scientific talking about braille displays with an iPhone and I was sitting there thinking about what a stupid idea this was to have a braille display hooked up to a phone of all things. I remember saying to myself: Why would anybody want music, email, etc. on a phone of all things? Of course, guess what I have on my iPhone these days! I just plain flat didn't get it what things I could do with an iPhone. I kept thinking of it as a phone instead of a little bitty computer with the ability to make phone calls. I have a blind friend who has decided she will an iPhone eventually, but she doesn't get yet either. She keeps saying to me: Well, I can do all that right now. I guess she won't get it either until she gets one herself. She would love BlindSquare, but she doesn't know it yet. It's a case of finding out you wanted something you didn't know you wanted until you got it. Regards, Gigi On Jun 27, 2013, at 5:51 PM, Kerri shalo...@shaw.ca wrote: *grin, seriously addicted grin. On 2013-06-27, at 2:13 PM, Chenelle Hancock filmchenelle1...@gmail.com wrote: Hello everyone, I have been an apple I Phone user Since October 31, 209. When I first purchased my very first I Phone 3. g s. I had never texted anyone that I knew with a smart phone. I didn't have the proper access to a smart phone where I could text, send email or instant messages let alone download music and video content. Without having sighted assistancevery. So when I had my brand new I phone inside of my hands. I was so elated with joy I did not know what to do with myself at first. Now I cannot ever see myself with out one. Now I not only have an I phone 4. s. But I have a makdck book pro and a time capsule along with an I pad mini and and finally I have a Apple TV. That Is how invested in all things apple that I am at the moment. For the record I will never go back to the Windows operating system ever again as long as I live. Sincerely, Chenelle -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are
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Hello you all! Thank you Eugenia for this nice posting where you describe so well the level of independence an iDevice can make possible. If Apple develops their products with great vision without interacting with end user too much, I develop BlindSquare together with end users, bit by bit bringing it to the level you could never get by traditional development style. I welcome you all to take part of this journey by giving your ideas what you would like to see in future versions. BR, Ilkka, BlindSquare dev On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 3:46 PM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi guys When I started out thinking about an accessible phone, I never dreamed that I would get a device that would have a GPS like BlindSquare on it and that I could get a restaurant menu on it with a braille display. I never dreamed of a program where I could take pictures of an item in my refrigerator or a can in my cabinet and find out what the thing was. When people talked about the camera, I remember thinking Well, who cares! I remember Johnathan you doing a podcast or some kind of presentation for Freedom Scientific talking about braille displays with an iPhone and I was sitting there thinking about what a stupid idea this was to have a braille display hooked up to a phone of all things. I remember saying to myself: Why would anybody want music, email, etc. on a phone of all things? Of course, guess what I have on my iPhone these days! I just plain flat didn't get it what things I could do with an iPhone. I kept thinking of it as a phone instead of a little bitty computer with the ability to make phone calls. I have a blind friend who has decided she will an iPhone eventually, but she doesn't get yet either. She keeps saying to me: Well, I can do all that right now. I guess she won't get it either until she gets one herself. She would love BlindSquare, but she doesn't know it yet. It's a case of finding out you wanted something you didn't know you wanted until you got it. Regards, Gigi On Jun 27, 2013, at 5:51 PM, Kerri shalo...@shaw.ca wrote: *grin, seriously addicted grin. On 2013-06-27, at 2:13 PM, Chenelle Hancock filmchenelle1...@gmail.com wrote: Hello everyone, I have been an apple I Phone user Since October 31, 209. When I first purchased my very first I Phone 3. g s. I had never texted anyone that I knew with a smart phone. I didn't have the proper access to a smart phone where I could text, send email or instant messages let alone download music and video content. Without having sighted assistancevery. So when I had my brand new I phone inside of my hands. I was so elated with joy I did not know what to do with myself at first. Now I cannot ever see myself with out one. Now I not only have an I phone 4. s. But I have a makdck book pro and a time capsule along with an I pad mini and and finally I have a Apple TV. That Is how invested in all things apple that I am at the moment. For the record I will never go back to the Windows operating system ever again as long as I live. Sincerely, Chenelle -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
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Hi there I am still too new to Blind Square to start saying what I want as features. There are some other programs that I can mention, like TapTapSee, just to name one, that I love. I do have a question, however, that I intended to put on the list anyway. Has anybody had trouble closing Blind Square? I have had a weird problem that if I want to close the program, and I go to the app switcher, and press double tap and hold to edit applications, the iPhone wants to open the program instead of going to edit apps. The reason I want to close it is because if I have put in a destination, and the program thinks I'm not there, it keeps talking and won't stop. This is because, for instance, my house is at 1019, but the program thinks I'm at 1015, which, by the way, is better than some GPS programs I've used. So far, this is the only thing that I had trouble with. Maybe I'm doing something wrong. Regards, Gigi On Jun 28, 2013, at 4:23 PM, Ilkka Pirttimaa ilkka.pirtti...@gmail.com wrote: Hello you all! Thank you Eugenia for this nice posting where you describe so well the level of independence an iDevice can make possible. If Apple develops their products with great vision without interacting with end user too much, I develop BlindSquare together with end users, bit by bit bringing it to the level you could never get by traditional development style. I welcome you all to take part of this journey by giving your ideas what you would like to see in future versions. BR, Ilkka, BlindSquare dev On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 3:46 PM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi guys When I started out thinking about an accessible phone, I never dreamed that I would get a device that would have a GPS like BlindSquare on it and that I could get a restaurant menu on it with a braille display. I never dreamed of a program where I could take pictures of an item in my refrigerator or a can in my cabinet and find out what the thing was. When people talked about the camera, I remember thinking Well, who cares! I remember Johnathan you doing a podcast or some kind of presentation for Freedom Scientific talking about braille displays with an iPhone and I was sitting there thinking about what a stupid idea this was to have a braille display hooked up to a phone of all things. I remember saying to myself: Why would anybody want music, email, etc. on a phone of all things? Of course, guess what I have on my iPhone these days! I just plain flat didn't get it what things I could do with an iPhone. I kept thinking of it as a phone instead of a little bitty computer with the ability to make phone calls. I have a blind friend who has decided she will an iPhone eventually, but she doesn't get yet either. She keeps saying to me: Well, I can do all that right now. I guess she won't get it either until she gets one herself. She would love BlindSquare, but she doesn't know it yet. It's a case of finding out you wanted something you didn't know you wanted until you got it. Regards, Gigi On Jun 27, 2013, at 5:51 PM, Kerri shalo...@shaw.ca wrote: *grin, seriously addicted grin. On 2013-06-27, at 2:13 PM, Chenelle Hancock filmchenelle1...@gmail.com wrote: Hello everyone, I have been an apple I Phone user Since October 31, 209. When I first purchased my very first I Phone 3. g s. I had never texted anyone that I knew with a smart phone. I didn't have the proper access to a smart phone where I could text, send email or instant messages let alone download music and video content. Without having sighted assistancevery. So when I had my brand new I phone inside of my hands. I was so elated with joy I did not know what to do with myself at first. Now I cannot ever see myself with out one. Now I not only have an I phone 4. s. But I have a makdck book pro and a time capsule along with an I pad mini and and finally I have a Apple TV. That Is how invested in all things apple that I am at the moment. For the record I will never go back to the Windows operating system ever again as long as I live. Sincerely, Chenelle -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at
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I also would like this info! I have the same thing! Colin On 29 Jun 2013, at 00:32, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi there I am still too new to Blind Square to start saying what I want as features. There are some other programs that I can mention, like TapTapSee, just to name one, that I love. I do have a question, however, that I intended to put on the list anyway. Has anybody had trouble closing Blind Square? I have had a weird problem that if I want to close the program, and I go to the app switcher, and press double tap and hold to edit applications, the iPhone wants to open the program instead of going to edit apps. The reason I want to close it is because if I have put in a destination, and the program thinks I'm not there, it keeps talking and won't stop. This is because, for instance, my house is at 1019, but the program thinks I'm at 1015, which, by the way, is better than some GPS programs I've used. So far, this is the only thing that I had trouble with. Maybe I'm doing something wrong. Regards, Gigi On Jun 28, 2013, at 4:23 PM, Ilkka Pirttimaa ilkka.pirtti...@gmail.com wrote: Hello you all! Thank you Eugenia for this nice posting where you describe so well the level of independence an iDevice can make possible. If Apple develops their products with great vision without interacting with end user too much, I develop BlindSquare together with end users, bit by bit bringing it to the level you could never get by traditional development style. I welcome you all to take part of this journey by giving your ideas what you would like to see in future versions. BR, Ilkka, BlindSquare dev On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 3:46 PM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi guys When I started out thinking about an accessible phone, I never dreamed that I would get a device that would have a GPS like BlindSquare on it and that I could get a restaurant menu on it with a braille display. I never dreamed of a program where I could take pictures of an item in my refrigerator or a can in my cabinet and find out what the thing was. When people talked about the camera, I remember thinking Well, who cares! I remember Johnathan you doing a podcast or some kind of presentation for Freedom Scientific talking about braille displays with an iPhone and I was sitting there thinking about what a stupid idea this was to have a braille display hooked up to a phone of all things. I remember saying to myself: Why would anybody want music, email, etc. on a phone of all things? Of course, guess what I have on my iPhone these days! I just plain flat didn't get it what things I could do with an iPhone. I kept thinking of it as a phone instead of a little bitty computer with the ability to make phone calls. I have a blind friend who has decided she will an iPhone eventually, but she doesn't get yet either. She keeps saying to me: Well, I can do all that right now. I guess she won't get it either until she gets one herself. She would love BlindSquare, but she doesn't know it yet. It's a case of finding out you wanted something you didn't know you wanted until you got it. Regards, Gigi On Jun 27, 2013, at 5:51 PM, Kerri shalo...@shaw.ca wrote: *grin, seriously addicted grin. On 2013-06-27, at 2:13 PM, Chenelle Hancock filmchenelle1...@gmail.com wrote: Hello everyone, I have been an apple I Phone user Since October 31, 209. When I first purchased my very first I Phone 3. g s. I had never texted anyone that I knew with a smart phone. I didn't have the proper access to a smart phone where I could text, send email or instant messages let alone download music and video content. Without having sighted assistancevery. So when I had my brand new I phone inside of my hands. I was so elated with joy I did not know what to do with myself at first. Now I cannot ever see myself with out one. Now I not only have an I phone 4. s. But I have a makdck book pro and a time capsule along with an I pad mini and and finally I have a Apple TV. That Is how invested in all things apple that I am at the moment. For the record I will never go back to the Windows operating system ever again as long as I live. Sincerely, Chenelle -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to
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Hello! This has nothing to do with if it detects if you are home or not, it is just that you have set it to run in background and it will until you stop it. In iOS 6 there is feature that will stop it automatically after a while anyway (you will hear it announced when it does) so it will not take battery more than 15 minutes or so. There might be limitations on which device models it does this, I think it needs at least 4S model. You can always stop it from App Switcher and it is the best way if you want to use all background features. Maybe someone on this list can help you how to do it with voiceover. There are other options too, you can find more info from here: http://blindsquare.com/faq/#why-does-it-keep-talking On Sat, Jun 29, 2013 at 2:32 AM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi there I am still too new to Blind Square to start saying what I want as features. There are some other programs that I can mention, like TapTapSee, just to name one, that I love. I do have a question, however, that I intended to put on the list anyway. Has anybody had trouble closing Blind Square? I have had a weird problem that if I want to close the program, and I go to the app switcher, and press double tap and hold to edit applications, the iPhone wants to open the program instead of going to edit apps. The reason I want to close it is because if I have put in a destination, and the program thinks I'm not there, it keeps talking and won't stop. This is because, for instance, my house is at 1019, but the program thinks I'm at 1015, which, by the way, is better than some GPS programs I've used. So far, this is the only thing that I had trouble with. Maybe I'm doing something wrong. Regards, Gigi On Jun 28, 2013, at 4:23 PM, Ilkka Pirttimaa ilkka.pirtti...@gmail.com wrote: Hello you all! Thank you Eugenia for this nice posting where you describe so well the level of independence an iDevice can make possible. If Apple develops their products with great vision without interacting with end user too much, I develop BlindSquare together with end users, bit by bit bringing it to the level you could never get by traditional development style. I welcome you all to take part of this journey by giving your ideas what you would like to see in future versions. BR, Ilkka, BlindSquare dev On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 3:46 PM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi guys When I started out thinking about an accessible phone, I never dreamed that I would get a device that would have a GPS like BlindSquare on it and that I could get a restaurant menu on it with a braille display. I never dreamed of a program where I could take pictures of an item in my refrigerator or a can in my cabinet and find out what the thing was. When people talked about the camera, I remember thinking Well, who cares! I remember Johnathan you doing a podcast or some kind of presentation for Freedom Scientific talking about braille displays with an iPhone and I was sitting there thinking about what a stupid idea this was to have a braille display hooked up to a phone of all things. I remember saying to myself: Why would anybody want music, email, etc. on a phone of all things? Of course, guess what I have on my iPhone these days! I just plain flat didn't get it what things I could do with an iPhone. I kept thinking of it as a phone instead of a little bitty computer with the ability to make phone calls. I have a blind friend who has decided she will an iPhone eventually, but she doesn't get yet either. She keeps saying to me: Well, I can do all that right now. I guess she won't get it either until she gets one herself. She would love BlindSquare, but she doesn't know it yet. It's a case of finding out you wanted something you didn't know you wanted until you got it. Regards, Gigi On Jun 27, 2013, at 5:51 PM, Kerri shalo...@shaw.ca wrote: *grin, seriously addicted grin. On 2013-06-27, at 2:13 PM, Chenelle Hancock filmchenelle1...@gmail.com wrote: Hello everyone, I have been an apple I Phone user Since October 31, 209. When I first purchased my very first I Phone 3. g s. I had never texted anyone that I knew with a smart phone. I didn't have the proper access to a smart phone where I could text, send email or instant messages let alone download music and video content. Without having sighted assistancevery. So when I had my brand new I phone inside of my hands. I was so elated with joy I did not know what to do with myself at first. Now I cannot ever see myself with out one. Now I not only have an I phone 4. s. But I have a makdck book pro and a time capsule along with an I pad mini and and finally I have a Apple TV. That Is how invested in all things apple that I am at the moment. For the record I will never go back to the Windows operating system ever again as long as I live. Sincerely, Chenelle -- You received this message because you
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Hello everyone, I have been an apple I Phone user Since October 31, 209. When I first purchased my very first I Phone 3. g s. I had never texted anyone that I knew with a smart phone. I didn't have the proper access to a smart phone where I could text, send email or instant messages let alone download music and video content. Without having sighted assistancevery. So when I had my brand new I phone inside of my hands. I was so elated with joy I did not know what to do with myself at first. Now I cannot ever see myself with out one. Now I not only have an I phone 4. s. But I have a makdck book pro and a time capsule along with an I pad mini and and finally I have a Apple TV. That Is how invested in all things apple that I am at the moment. For the record I will never go back to the Windows operating system ever again as long as I live. Sincerely, Chenelle -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
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Hi, I too am an iphone, ipad, mac user. As much as I enjoy my apple equipment, I retain my windows 7 machine for the rare instance there is not a mac equivalent for a windows program I may need at the time. Pam Francis On Jun 27, 2013, at 4:13 PM, Chenelle Hancock filmchenelle1...@gmail.com wrote: Hello everyone, I have been an apple I Phone user Since October 31, 209. When I first purchased my very first I Phone 3. g s. I had never texted anyone that I knew with a smart phone. I didn't have the proper access to a smart phone where I could text, send email or instant messages let alone download music and video content. Without having sighted assistancevery. So when I had my brand new I phone inside of my hands. I was so elated with joy I did not know what to do with myself at first. Now I cannot ever see myself with out one. Now I not only have an I phone 4. s. But I have a makdck book pro and a time capsule along with an I pad mini and and finally I have a Apple TV. That Is how invested in all things apple that I am at the moment. For the record I will never go back to the Windows operating system ever again as long as I live. Sincerely, Chenelle -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
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*grin, seriously addicted grin. On 2013-06-27, at 2:13 PM, Chenelle Hancock filmchenelle1...@gmail.com wrote: Hello everyone, I have been an apple I Phone user Since October 31, 209. When I first purchased my very first I Phone 3. g s. I had never texted anyone that I knew with a smart phone. I didn't have the proper access to a smart phone where I could text, send email or instant messages let alone download music and video content. Without having sighted assistancevery. So when I had my brand new I phone inside of my hands. I was so elated with joy I did not know what to do with myself at first. Now I cannot ever see myself with out one. Now I not only have an I phone 4. s. But I have a makdck book pro and a time capsule along with an I pad mini and and finally I have a Apple TV. That Is how invested in all things apple that I am at the moment. For the record I will never go back to the Windows operating system ever again as long as I live. Sincerely, Chenelle -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
