likely silly apple product buy question?

[Karen Lewellen]

Hi everyone,
First of two threads that I am keeping separate.
Because of issues I am encountering, especially at places like Paypal, I 
am considering getting an Apple device.  With the major sales coming up in 
the next few days, I want some direction before i start hunting.
Getting the silly question  out of the way first, if I buy an apple product 
somewhere  other than an Apple store, can I still experience support from 
an apple genus?

 i. e. I buy the item at Amazon instead, or in a best buy store?
this is really really important, because I still *hope* I can get some in 
person training, or at least  have the item  configured for my needs by 
someone knowledgeable.
 I honor all the brilliance on this list, but I learn  best  with someone 
in the same room with me, especially where  something totally new is 
concerned.  I may have been on this list for well years, but this will be 
my first  major major voiceover  experience.  Speaking personally I prefer 
to maximize my learning time,  so I can put the item to use swiftly if 
that makes sense.

Will ask my device questions  in the next thread.
Kare

Re: likely silly apple product buy question?

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

You should still be able to get support from Apple.  It is an Apple purchase, 
albeit from another vender, but the warranty, support and such is still by 
Apple.  It is usually your serial number that determines whether warranty or 
support is available, not the vender from which you purchased the device.

Hope that makes sense.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Nov 20, 2018, at 16:53, Karen Lewellen  wrote:

Hi everyone,
First of two threads that I am keeping separate.
Because of issues I am encountering, especially at places like Paypal, I am 
considering getting an Apple device.  With the major sales coming up in the 
next few days, I want some direction before i start hunting.
Getting the silly question  out of the way first, if I buy an apple product 
somewhere  other than an Apple store, can I still experience support from an 
apple genus?
i. e. I buy the item at Amazon instead, or in a best buy store?
this is really really important, because I still *hope* I can get some in 
person training, or at least  have the item  configured for my needs by someone 
knowledgeable.
I honor all the brilliance on this list, but I learn  best  with someone in the 
same room with me, especially where  something totally new is concerned.  I may 
have been on this list for well years, but this will be my first  major major 
voiceover  experience.  Speaking personally I prefer to maximize my learning 
time,  so I can put the item to use swiftly if that makes sense.
Will ask my device questions  in the next thread.
Kare



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Re: likely silly apple product buy question?

[Karen Lewellen]

Perfect sense, thank you!
My guess is that often other stores have better prices yes?
Kare



On Tue, 20 Nov 2018, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:


Hi,

You should still be able to get support from Apple.  It is an Apple purchase, 
albeit from another vender, but the warranty, support and such is still by 
Apple.  It is usually your serial number that determines whether warranty or 
support is available, not the vender from which you purchased the device.

Hope that makes sense.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Nov 20, 2018, at 16:53, Karen Lewellen  wrote:

Hi everyone,
First of two threads that I am keeping separate.
Because of issues I am encountering, especially at places like Paypal, I am 
considering getting an Apple device.  With the major sales coming up in the 
next few days, I want some direction before i start hunting.
Getting the silly question  out of the way first, if I buy an apple product 
somewhere  other than an Apple store, can I still experience support from an 
apple genus?
i. e. I buy the item at Amazon instead, or in a best buy store?
this is really really important, because I still *hope* I can get some in 
person training, or at least  have the item  configured for my needs by someone 
knowledgeable.
I honor all the brilliance on this list, but I learn  best  with someone in the 
same room with me, especially where  something totally new is concerned.  I may 
have been on this list for well years, but this will be my first  major major 
voiceover  experience.  Speaking personally I prefer to maximize my learning 
time,  so I can put the item to use swiftly if that makes sense.
Will ask my device questions  in the next thread.
Kare



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Re: likely silly apple product buy question?

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

Depends.  Apple products tend to have a very small markup.  That's not to say 
that Apple doesn't make bags of money from there hardware, just that other 
retailers don't make a huge profit either.  That being said, third party 
venders like BestBuy and such will often put Apple products on sale at a bit of 
a loss because they wish to get rid of product.  They make enough money off of 
other things and sell the occasional warranty package that really makes them 
cash.  So, yes, you're correct that you'll often see some pretty good sales 
during this time of the year on Apple products mostly from folks other than 
Apple themselves.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Nov 20, 2018, at 17:13, Karen Lewellen  wrote:

Perfect sense, thank you!
My guess is that often other stores have better prices yes?
Kare



On Tue, 20 Nov 2018, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> You should still be able to get support from Apple.  It is an Apple purchase, 
> albeit from another vender, but the warranty, support and such is still by 
> Apple.  It is usually your serial number that determines whether warranty or 
> support is available, not the vender from which you purchased the device.
> 
> Hope that makes sense.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Nov 20, 2018, at 16:53, Karen Lewellen  wrote:
> 
> Hi everyone,
> First of two threads that I am keeping separate.
> Because of issues I am encountering, especially at places like Paypal, I am 
> considering getting an Apple device.  With the major sales coming up in the 
> next few days, I want some direction before i start hunting.
> Getting the silly question  out of the way first, if I buy an apple product 
> somewhere  other than an Apple store, can I still experience support from an 
> apple genus?
> i. e. I buy the item at Amazon instead, or in a best buy store?
> this is really really important, because I still *hope* I can get some in 
> person training, or at least  have the item  configured for my needs by 
> someone knowledgeable.
> I honor all the brilliance on this list, but I learn  best  with someone in 
> the same room with me, especially where  something totally new is concerned.  
> I may have been on this list for well years, but this will be my first  major 
> major voiceover  experience.  Speaking personally I prefer to maximize my 
> learning time,  so I can put the item to use swiftly if that makes sense.
> Will ask my device questions  in the next thread.
> Kare
> 
> 
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Re: likely silly apple product buy question?

[tim]

Wish that it is true about Apple and there warranties.
If the store sells it with applecare. Then Apple will fix it and if not then 
you will have to get applecare on your own.
I know this from getting my iPhone 8 from T-mobile. They only gave a not 
working out of box return if phone was fisically broke.
I had to get applecare myself.
Now as far as the big drop in discounts they still make a profit because the 
markup is around 3 to 500% for sales.
Never think a store loses money with discounts.
Just because a product states a sale only means it is for sale. The discount is 
still just a mine game.
> On Nov 20, 2018, at 10:35 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Depends.  Apple products tend to have a very small markup.  That's not to say 
> that Apple doesn't make bags of money from there hardware, just that other 
> retailers don't make a huge profit either.  That being said, third party 
> venders like BestBuy and such will often put Apple products on sale at a bit 
> of a loss because they wish to get rid of product.  They make enough money 
> off of other things and sell the occasional warranty package that really 
> makes them cash.  So, yes, you're correct that you'll often see some pretty 
> good sales during this time of the year on Apple products mostly from folks 
> other than Apple themselves.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Nov 20, 2018, at 17:13, Karen Lewellen  > wrote:
> 
> Perfect sense, thank you!
> My guess is that often other stores have better prices yes?
> Kare
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, 20 Nov 2018, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> You should still be able to get support from Apple.  It is an Apple 
>> purchase, albeit from another vender, but the warranty, support and such is 
>> still by Apple.  It is usually your serial number that determines whether 
>> warranty or support is available, not the vender from which you purchased 
>> the device.
>> 
>> Hope that makes sense.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Nov 20, 2018, at 16:53, Karen Lewellen > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi everyone,
>> First of two threads that I am keeping separate.
>> Because of issues I am encountering, especially at places like Paypal, I am 
>> considering getting an Apple device.  With the major sales coming up in the 
>> next few days, I want some direction before i start hunting.
>> Getting the silly question  out of the way first, if I buy an apple product 
>> somewhere  other than an Apple store, can I still experience support from an 
>> apple genus?
>> i. e. I buy the item at Amazon instead, or in a best buy store?
>> this is really really important, because I still *hope* I can get some in 
>> person training, or at least  have the item  configured for my needs by 
>> someone knowledgeable.
>> I honor all the brilliance on this list, but I learn  best  with someone in 
>> the same room with me, especially where  something totally new is concerned. 
>>  I may have been on this list for well years, but this will be my first  
>> major major voiceover  experience.  Speaking personally I prefer to maximize 
>> my learning time,  so I can put the item to use swiftly if that makes sense.
>> Will ask my device questions  in the next thread.
>> Kare
>> 
>> 
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Re: likely silly apple product buy question?

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

hi,

Specifically with Apple Care, you have a point.  Whereas, the one year warranty 
provided by Apple is honoured no matter which authorized vender sold the Apple 
product.  While the mark-up you state is normal in the retail business, my 
sources tell me that the retailer is not marking up the Apple hardware to that 
degree.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Nov 28, 2018, at 08:46, tim  wrote:

Wish that it is true about Apple and there warranties.
If the store sells it with applecare. Then Apple will fix it and if not then 
you will have to get applecare on your own.
I know this from getting my iPhone 8 from T-mobile. They only gave a not 
working out of box return if phone was fisically broke.
I had to get applecare myself.
Now as far as the big drop in discounts they still make a profit because the 
markup is around 3 to 500% for sales.
Never think a store loses money with discounts.
Just because a product states a sale only means it is for sale. The discount is 
still just a mine game.
> On Nov 20, 2018, at 10:35 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Depends.  Apple products tend to have a very small markup.  That's not to say 
> that Apple doesn't make bags of money from there hardware, just that other 
> retailers don't make a huge profit either.  That being said, third party 
> venders like BestBuy and such will often put Apple products on sale at a bit 
> of a loss because they wish to get rid of product.  They make enough money 
> off of other things and sell the occasional warranty package that really 
> makes them cash.  So, yes, you're correct that you'll often see some pretty 
> good sales during this time of the year on Apple products mostly from folks 
> other than Apple themselves.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Nov 20, 2018, at 17:13, Karen Lewellen  > wrote:
> 
> Perfect sense, thank you!
> My guess is that often other stores have better prices yes?
> Kare
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, 20 Nov 2018, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> You should still be able to get support from Apple.  It is an Apple 
>> purchase, albeit from another vender, but the warranty, support and such is 
>> still by Apple.  It is usually your serial number that determines whether 
>> warranty or support is available, not the vender from which you purchased 
>> the device.
>> 
>> Hope that makes sense.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Nov 20, 2018, at 16:53, Karen Lewellen > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi everyone,
>> First of two threads that I am keeping separate.
>> Because of issues I am encountering, especially at places like Paypal, I am 
>> considering getting an Apple device.  With the major sales coming up in the 
>> next few days, I want some direction before i start hunting.
>> Getting the silly question  out of the way first, if I buy an apple product 
>> somewhere  other than an Apple store, can I still experience support from an 
>> apple genus?
>> i. e. I buy the item at Amazon instead, or in a best buy store?
>> this is really really important, because I still *hope* I can get some in 
>> person training, or at least  have the item  configured for my needs by 
>> someone knowledgeable.
>> I honor all the brilliance on this list, but I learn  best  with someone in 
>> the same room with me, especially where  something totally new is concerned. 
>>  I may have been on this list for well years, but this will be my first  
>> major major voiceover  experience.  Speaking personally I prefer to maximize 
>> my learning time,  so I can put the item to use swiftly if that makes sense.
>> Will ask my device questions  in the next thread.
>> Kare
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: likely silly apple product buy question?

[tim]

Wish that was the case. However, my phone was dropped by a 2 yearold and broke 
the screen. Apple told me sense I didn’t have applecare it would cost me $100 
to fix. Now sense my phone was under a year old I still could get applecare and 
have it fixed.
Now as far as your resource there dreaming because that markup is standard 
practice for sales.
I learned that getting my business degree. 
On Nov 28, 2018, at 11:07 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:
> 
> hi,
> 
> Specifically with Apple Care, you have a point.  Whereas, the one year 
> warranty provided by Apple is honoured no matter which authorized vender sold 
> the Apple product.  While the mark-up you state is normal in the retail 
> business, my sources tell me that the retailer is not marking up the Apple 
> hardware to that degree.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Nov 28, 2018, at 08:46, tim mailto:mrga...@gmail.com>> 
> wrote:
> 
> Wish that it is true about Apple and there warranties.
> If the store sells it with applecare. Then Apple will fix it and if not then 
> you will have to get applecare on your own.
> I know this from getting my iPhone 8 from T-mobile. They only gave a not 
> working out of box return if phone was fisically broke.
> I had to get applecare myself.
> Now as far as the big drop in discounts they still make a profit because the 
> markup is around 3 to 500% for sales.
> Never think a store loses money with discounts.
> Just because a product states a sale only means it is for sale. The discount 
> is still just a mine game.
>> On Nov 20, 2018, at 10:35 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Depends.  Apple products tend to have a very small markup.  That's not to 
>> say that Apple doesn't make bags of money from there hardware, just that 
>> other retailers don't make a huge profit either.  That being said, third 
>> party venders like BestBuy and such will often put Apple products on sale at 
>> a bit of a loss because they wish to get rid of product.  They make enough 
>> money off of other things and sell the occasional warranty package that 
>> really makes them cash.  So, yes, you're correct that you'll often see some 
>> pretty good sales during this time of the year on Apple products mostly from 
>> folks other than Apple themselves.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Nov 20, 2018, at 17:13, Karen Lewellen > > wrote:
>> 
>> Perfect sense, thank you!
>> My guess is that often other stores have better prices yes?
>> Kare
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Tue, 20 Nov 2018, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> You should still be able to get support from Apple.  It is an Apple 
>>> purchase, albeit from another vender, but the warranty, support and such is 
>>> still by Apple.  It is usually your serial number that determines whether 
>>> warranty or support is available, not the vender from which you purchased 
>>> the device.
>>> 
>>> Hope that makes sense.
>>> 
>>> Later...
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Apple Teacher
>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
>>> On Nov 20, 2018, at 16:53, Karen Lewellen >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi everyone,
>>> First of two threads that I am keeping separate.
>>> Because of issues I am encountering, especially at places like Paypal, I am 
>>> considering getting an Apple device.  With the major sales coming up in the 
>>> next few days, I want some direction before i start hunting.
>>> Getting the silly question  out of the way first, if I buy an apple product 
>>> somewhere  other than an Apple store, can I still experience support from 
>>> an apple genus?
>>> i. e. I buy the item at Amazon instead, or in a best buy store?
>>> this is really really important, because I still *hope* I can get some in 
>>> person training, or at least  have the item  configured for my needs by 
>>> someone knowledgeable.
>>> I honor all the brilliance on this list, but I learn  best  with someone in 
>>> the same room with me, especially where  something totally new is 
>>> concerned.  I may have been on this list for well years, but this will be 
>>> my first  major major voiceover  experience.  Speaking personally I prefer 
>>> to maximize my learning time,  so I can put the item to use swiftly if that 
>>> makes sense.
>>> Will ask my device questions  in the next thread.
>>> Kare
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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>>> Visionaries list.
>>> 
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>>> or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>>> 
>>> Your Mac

Re: likely silly apple product buy question?

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

The standard Apple warranty does not cover user caused damage.  Most standard 
warranties do not.  Yes, AppleCare is required to cover such damage.  This is 
normal practice with most electronics.  Manufacturer defects or problems with 
software/hardware are covered, but if you spill your coffee on your laptop 
keyboard, for example, standard warranty does not cover the repairs.

I'm not interested in getting into a back and forth, but I have spoken directly 
with business owners who sell Apple and other technology, and the markup for 
the retailer is nowhere near the values you've stated.  Yes, I agree that those 
percentages are normal in many other product lines, but I'll stand by my 
statement that those percentages are not the case for Apple hardware sold by 
third party retailers.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Nov 28, 2018, at 09:38, tim  wrote:

Wish that was the case. However, my phone was dropped by a 2 yearold and broke 
the screen. Apple told me sense I didn’t have applecare it would cost me $100 
to fix. Now sense my phone was under a year old I still could get applecare and 
have it fixed.
Now as far as your resource there dreaming because that markup is standard 
practice for sales.
I learned that getting my business degree. 
On Nov 28, 2018, at 11:07 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
wrote:
> 
> hi,
> 
> Specifically with Apple Care, you have a point.  Whereas, the one year 
> warranty provided by Apple is honoured no matter which authorized vender sold 
> the Apple product.  While the mark-up you state is normal in the retail 
> business, my sources tell me that the retailer is not marking up the Apple 
> hardware to that degree.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Nov 28, 2018, at 08:46, tim mailto:mrga...@gmail.com>> 
> wrote:
> 
> Wish that it is true about Apple and there warranties.
> If the store sells it with applecare. Then Apple will fix it and if not then 
> you will have to get applecare on your own.
> I know this from getting my iPhone 8 from T-mobile. They only gave a not 
> working out of box return if phone was fisically broke.
> I had to get applecare myself.
> Now as far as the big drop in discounts they still make a profit because the 
> markup is around 3 to 500% for sales.
> Never think a store loses money with discounts.
> Just because a product states a sale only means it is for sale. The discount 
> is still just a mine game.
>> On Nov 20, 2018, at 10:35 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Depends.  Apple products tend to have a very small markup.  That's not to 
>> say that Apple doesn't make bags of money from there hardware, just that 
>> other retailers don't make a huge profit either.  That being said, third 
>> party venders like BestBuy and such will often put Apple products on sale at 
>> a bit of a loss because they wish to get rid of product.  They make enough 
>> money off of other things and sell the occasional warranty package that 
>> really makes them cash.  So, yes, you're correct that you'll often see some 
>> pretty good sales during this time of the year on Apple products mostly from 
>> folks other than Apple themselves.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Nov 20, 2018, at 17:13, Karen Lewellen > > wrote:
>> 
>> Perfect sense, thank you!
>> My guess is that often other stores have better prices yes?
>> Kare
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Tue, 20 Nov 2018, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> You should still be able to get support from Apple.  It is an Apple 
>>> purchase, albeit from another vender, but the warranty, support and such is 
>>> still by Apple.  It is usually your serial number that determines whether 
>>> warranty or support is available, not the vender from which you purchased 
>>> the device.
>>> 
>>> Hope that makes sense.
>>> 
>>> Later...
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Apple Teacher
>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
>>> On Nov 20, 2018, at 16:53, Karen Lewellen >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi everyone,
>>> First of two threads that I am keeping separate.
>>> Because of issues I am encountering, especially at places like Paypal, I am 
>>> considering getting an Apple device.  With the major sales coming up in the 
>>> next few days, I want some direction before i start hunting.
>>> Getting the silly question  out of the way first, if I buy an apple product 
>>> somewhere  other than an Apple store, can I still experience support from 
>>> an apple genus?
>>> i. e. I buy the item at Amazon instead, or in a best buy store?
>>> this is really really important,

Re: likely silly apple product buy question?

[Arnold Schmidt]

The following is only my opinion. Obviously, the damage to your IPhone had 
absolutely nothing to do with any manufacturing fault or defect, so most 
manufacturers would say, "that's too bad." They wouldn't fix it under any 
warranty, not even Apple care. And you are saying they offered you the chance 
to buy Apple Care after they knew the circumstances of the damage, then fix it 
under Apple Care? That is the most generous warranty coverage I have ever heard 
of from a manufacturer. I hope you grabbed it before they came to their senses 
and changed their mind. 

Arnold Schmidt 
 

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone

On Nov 28, 2018, at 11:38 AM, tim  wrote:

Wish that was the case. However, my phone was dropped by a 2 yearold and broke 
the screen. Apple told me sense I didn’t have applecare it would cost me $100 
to fix. Now sense my phone was under a year old I still could get applecare and 
have it fixed.
Now as far as your resource there dreaming because that markup is standard 
practice for sales.
I learned that getting my business degree. 
> On Nov 28, 2018, at 11:07 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> hi,
> 
> Specifically with Apple Care, you have a point.  Whereas, the one year 
> warranty provided by Apple is honoured no matter which authorized vender sold 
> the Apple product.  While the mark-up you state is normal in the retail 
> business, my sources tell me that the retailer is not marking up the Apple 
> hardware to that degree.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Nov 28, 2018, at 08:46, tim  wrote:
> 
> Wish that it is true about Apple and there warranties.
> If the store sells it with applecare. Then Apple will fix it and if not then 
> you will have to get applecare on your own.
> I know this from getting my iPhone 8 from T-mobile. They only gave a not 
> working out of box return if phone was fisically broke.
> I had to get applecare myself.
> Now as far as the big drop in discounts they still make a profit because the 
> markup is around 3 to 500% for sales.
> Never think a store loses money with discounts.
> Just because a product states a sale only means it is for sale. The discount 
> is still just a mine game.
>> On Nov 20, 2018, at 10:35 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Depends.  Apple products tend to have a very small markup.  That's not to 
>> say that Apple doesn't make bags of money from there hardware, just that 
>> other retailers don't make a huge profit either.  That being said, third 
>> party venders like BestBuy and such will often put Apple products on sale at 
>> a bit of a loss because they wish to get rid of product.  They make enough 
>> money off of other things and sell the occasional warranty package that 
>> really makes them cash.  So, yes, you're correct that you'll often see some 
>> pretty good sales during this time of the year on Apple products mostly from 
>> folks other than Apple themselves.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Nov 20, 2018, at 17:13, Karen Lewellen  wrote:
>> 
>> Perfect sense, thank you!
>> My guess is that often other stores have better prices yes?
>> Kare
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Tue, 20 Nov 2018, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> You should still be able to get support from Apple.  It is an Apple 
>>> purchase, albeit from another vender, but the warranty, support and such is 
>>> still by Apple.  It is usually your serial number that determines whether 
>>> warranty or support is available, not the vender from which you purchased 
>>> the device.
>>> 
>>> Hope that makes sense.
>>> 
>>> Later...
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Apple Teacher
>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
>>> On Nov 20, 2018, at 16:53, Karen Lewellen  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi everyone,
>>> First of two threads that I am keeping separate.
>>> Because of issues I am encountering, especially at places like Paypal, I am 
>>> considering getting an Apple device.  With the major sales coming up in the 
>>> next few days, I want some direction before i start hunting.
>>> Getting the silly question  out of the way first, if I buy an apple product 
>>> somewhere  other than an Apple store, can I still experience support from 
>>> an apple genus?
>>> i. e. I buy the item at Amazon instead, or in a best buy store?
>>> this is really really important, because I still *hope* I can get some in 
>>> person training, or at least  have the item  configured for my needs by 
>>> someone knowledgeable.
>>> I honor all the brilliance on this list, but I learn  best  with someone in 
>>> the same room with me, especially where  something totally new is 
>>> concerned.  I may have been on this list for well years, but this will be 
>>> my first  major major voiceover  experience.  Speaking personally I prefer 
>>>