RE: missing onscreen keyboard on iPhone

[Simon Fogarty]

I'm the only one of 4000 staff give or take a few hundred,

 I work in IT and still my colleagues can't figure out how to turn off jaws or 
VO 
Even funnier is on an iPhone or iPad I tend to get people asking why the device 
wont  turn on,

Easy it's already on,
If you three finger triple tap it blacks the screen with the curtain and 3 
finger double tap turns vo off and makes it bloody hard for muppets to use.

Helps if you turn vol down also.

Call me mean but yes I am and that's why I do what I do,
Not my fault my colleagues don't know things.
-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Katie Zodrow
Sent: Wednesday, 19 December 2018 10:23 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Cc: Katie Zodrow 
Subject: Re: missing onscreen keyboard on iPhone

Hi Simon. Yeah, that is pretty funny. Or they can just do command F5 to turn 
Voiceover off. :-) Jonathan that’s great you had someone sighted help out with 
this issue at work. I didn’t think a sighted user would know how to go to 
braille screen input or settings while Voiceover is still on.
Katie

> On Dec 17, 2018, at 9:19 PM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Hell, that's great, a person that knows how to use a phone with 
> braille or voiceover,
> 
> My work colleagues can't even handle using computers without mice.
> 
> I tried cutting mouse cables but they got grumpy and found new mice.
> Voiceover and jaws just confuse some people, I have to laugh at them 
> when so called IT support staff can't click the x in the top corner of a 
> screen when Jaws is running, to turn it off.
> 
> Life is such a laugh
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> On Behalf Of Jonathan Cohn
> Sent: Tuesday, 18 December 2018 1:41 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: missing onscreen keyboard on iPhone
> 
> Well, thought it was resolved but it showed up again. My co-worker did 
> something counterintuitive that might have resolved things. Apparently old 
> bluetooth configurations can get stuck in the phone when you unpair the 
> device. He turned off onscreen keyboard in the Braille settings, and 
> restarted the phone. I’ll try things out a bit, and if it works I’ll get a 
> full write up of the procedure. I would not have even expected him to know 
> how to get to Braille settings on an iPhone, though he was the person in our 
> office who went to Hawaii board of education and helped get things set up for 
> their Blind students.
> Jonathan Cohn
> 
>> On Dec 17, 2018, at 2:59 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>  If you mean braille screen input, who knows. I do not have that in mu 
>> rotor. This sure is perplexing. A total reset would indeed be the last 
>> resort but it might end up being the best solution.
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>  ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>> Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were 
>> true?
>> 
>> On 12/17/2018 11:14 AM, Jonathan Cohn wrote:
>>> Two points for ET though not directly, since I was on the phone with Apple. 
>>> I removed pairing of the Braille device, removed braille  from the rotor, 
>>> turned off bluetooth and then powered down and powered up.
>>> I am almost tempted to try and cause the reversal again to see if I can 
>>> simplify that reset process. I wonder if the fact that Braille was in the 
>>> rotor in addition to the braille display somehow confused VoiceOver into 
>>> reversing actions for the Braille connectivity. Though the support rep I 
>>> talked with said he had heard of some cases where the onscreen keyboard 
>>> would disappear when BlueTooth headphones are connected.
>>>> On Dec 16, 2018, at 10:39 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>  Forget the braille device or turn off Bluetooth? Did you try these?
>>>> 
>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>>>  ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>>> Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were 
>>>> true?
>>>> 
>>>> On 12/16/2018 4:57 PM, Jonathan Cohn wrote:
>>>>> Well, I made a little progress. Essentially the onscreen keyboard toggle 
>>>>> now appears to be completely backward. When the Braille display is 
>>>>> connected to the iPhone 7, then the OnScreen keyboard is available but as 
>>>>> soon as I get out of range, turn off the keyboard, or otherwise disable 
>>>>> the Braille display, the OnScreen keyboard disappears.
>>>>> I am very tempted to reset all settings, but then I would

Re: missing onscreen keyboard on iPhone

[Katie Zodrow]

Hi Simon. Yeah, that is pretty funny. Or they can just do command F5 to turn 
Voiceover off. :-)
Jonathan that’s great you had someone sighted help out with this issue at work. 
I didn’t think a sighted user would know how to go to braille screen input or 
settings while Voiceover is still on.
Katie

> On Dec 17, 2018, at 9:19 PM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Hell, that's great, a person that knows how to use a phone with braille or 
> voiceover,
> 
> My work colleagues can't even handle using computers without mice.
> 
> I tried cutting mouse cables but they got grumpy and found new mice.
> Voiceover and jaws just confuse some people,
> I have to laugh at them when so called IT support staff can't click the x in 
> the top corner of a screen when Jaws is running, to turn it off.
> 
> Life is such a laugh 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On 
> Behalf Of Jonathan Cohn
> Sent: Tuesday, 18 December 2018 1:41 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: missing onscreen keyboard on iPhone
> 
> Well, thought it was resolved but it showed up again. My co-worker did 
> something counterintuitive that might have resolved things. Apparently old 
> bluetooth configurations can get stuck in the phone when you unpair the 
> device. He turned off onscreen keyboard in the Braille settings, and 
> restarted the phone. I’ll try things out a bit, and if it works I’ll get a 
> full write up of the procedure. I would not have even expected him to know 
> how to get to Braille settings on an iPhone, though he was the person in our 
> office who went to Hawaii board of education and helped get things set up for 
> their Blind students.
> Jonathan Cohn 
> 
>> On Dec 17, 2018, at 2:59 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>  If you mean braille screen input, who knows. I do not have that in mu 
>> rotor. This sure is perplexing. A total reset would indeed be the last 
>> resort but it might end up being the best solution.
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>  ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>> Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were 
>> true?
>> 
>> On 12/17/2018 11:14 AM, Jonathan Cohn wrote:
>>> Two points for ET though not directly, since I was on the phone with Apple. 
>>> I removed pairing of the Braille device, removed braille  from the rotor, 
>>> turned off bluetooth and then powered down and powered up.
>>> I am almost tempted to try and cause the reversal again to see if I can 
>>> simplify that reset process. I wonder if the fact that Braille was in the 
>>> rotor in addition to the braille display somehow confused VoiceOver into 
>>> reversing actions for the Braille connectivity. Though the support rep I 
>>> talked with said he had heard of some cases where the onscreen keyboard 
>>> would disappear when BlueTooth headphones are connected.
>>>> On Dec 16, 2018, at 10:39 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>  Forget the braille device or turn off Bluetooth? Did you try these?
>>>> 
>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>>>  ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>>> Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were 
>>>> true?
>>>> 
>>>> On 12/16/2018 4:57 PM, Jonathan Cohn wrote:
>>>>> Well, I made a little progress. Essentially the onscreen keyboard toggle 
>>>>> now appears to be completely backward. When the Braille display is 
>>>>> connected to the iPhone 7, then the OnScreen keyboard is available but as 
>>>>> soon as I get out of range, turn off the keyboard, or otherwise disable 
>>>>> the Braille display, the OnScreen keyboard disappears.
>>>>> I am very tempted to reset all settings, but then I would need to put my 
>>>>> credit cards back into Apple Pay.
>>>>> Best wishes,
>>>>> Jonathan Cohn
>>>>>> On Dec 15, 2018, at 7:42 PM, Mary Otten >>>>> <mailto:motte...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi Jonathan,
>>>>>> I just had this happen today. It was very annoying. I have an external 
>>>>>> Bluetooth keyboard, and I thought maybe that was the problem. So I 
>>>>>> turned off Bluetooth. Rebooted the phone. No luck. I went into general 
>>>>>> settings keyboard and found out that for some reason I had three 
>>>>>> keyboards listed, two of which were United States English qwerty. I 
>>&g

RE: missing onscreen keyboard on iPhone

[Simon Fogarty]

Hell, that's great, a person that knows how to use a phone with braille or 
voiceover,

My work colleagues can't even handle using computers without mice.

I tried cutting mouse cables but they got grumpy and found new mice.
 Voiceover and jaws just confuse some people,
I have to laugh at them when so called IT support staff can't click the x in 
the top corner of a screen when Jaws is running, to turn it off.

Life is such a laugh 

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Jonathan Cohn
Sent: Tuesday, 18 December 2018 1:41 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: missing onscreen keyboard on iPhone

Well, thought it was resolved but it showed up again. My co-worker did 
something counterintuitive that might have resolved things. Apparently old 
bluetooth configurations can get stuck in the phone when you unpair the device. 
He turned off onscreen keyboard in the Braille settings, and restarted the 
phone. I’ll try things out a bit, and if it works I’ll get a full write up of 
the procedure. I would not have even expected him to know how to get to Braille 
settings on an iPhone, though he was the person in our office who went to 
Hawaii board of education and helped get things set up for their Blind students.
Jonathan Cohn 
 
> On Dec 17, 2018, at 2:59 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
>   If you mean braille screen input, who knows. I do not have that in mu 
> rotor. This sure is perplexing. A total reset would indeed be the last resort 
> but it might end up being the best solution.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were 
> true?
> 
> On 12/17/2018 11:14 AM, Jonathan Cohn wrote:
>> Two points for ET though not directly, since I was on the phone with Apple. 
>> I removed pairing of the Braille device, removed braille  from the rotor, 
>> turned off bluetooth and then powered down and powered up.
>> I am almost tempted to try and cause the reversal again to see if I can 
>> simplify that reset process. I wonder if the fact that Braille was in the 
>> rotor in addition to the braille display somehow confused VoiceOver into 
>> reversing actions for the Braille connectivity. Though the support rep I 
>> talked with said he had heard of some cases where the onscreen keyboard 
>> would disappear when BlueTooth headphones are connected.
>>> On Dec 16, 2018, at 10:39 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>>   Forget the braille device or turn off Bluetooth? Did you try these?
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>> Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were 
>>> true?
>>> 
>>> On 12/16/2018 4:57 PM, Jonathan Cohn wrote:
>>>> Well, I made a little progress. Essentially the onscreen keyboard toggle 
>>>> now appears to be completely backward. When the Braille display is 
>>>> connected to the iPhone 7, then the OnScreen keyboard is available but as 
>>>> soon as I get out of range, turn off the keyboard, or otherwise disable 
>>>> the Braille display, the OnScreen keyboard disappears.
>>>> I am very tempted to reset all settings, but then I would need to put my 
>>>> credit cards back into Apple Pay.
>>>> Best wishes,
>>>> Jonathan Cohn
>>>>> On Dec 15, 2018, at 7:42 PM, Mary Otten >>>> <mailto:motte...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Jonathan,
>>>>> I just had this happen today. It was very annoying. I have an external 
>>>>> Bluetooth keyboard, and I thought maybe that was the problem. So I turned 
>>>>> off Bluetooth. Rebooted the phone. No luck. I went into general settings 
>>>>> keyboard and found out that for some reason I had three keyboards listed, 
>>>>> two of which were United States English qwerty. I deleted one of those, 
>>>>> rebooted the phone, and my keyboard returned. I don’t know why it listed 
>>>>> US English twice. And I don’t know if it was just coincidental that 
>>>>> getting rid of one of them should cause the keyboard to reappear. But it 
>>>>> did.
>>>>> Mary
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Dec 15, 2018, at 4:01 PM, Jonathan Cohn >>>>> <mailto:jon.c.c...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks for the replies. so far, I have not been able to get the onscreen 

RE: missing onscreen keyboard on iPhone

[Simon Fogarty]

I know I'll probably cause myself trouble here but I've never had an issue with 
the on screen keyboard when my BT headphones are connected.

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Jonathan Cohn
Sent: Tuesday, 18 December 2018 8:15 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: missing onscreen keyboard on iPhone

Two points for ET though not directly, since I was on the phone with Apple. I 
removed pairing of the Braille device, removed braille  from the rotor, turned 
off bluetooth and then powered down and powered up.

I am almost tempted to try and cause the reversal again to see if I can 
simplify that reset process. I wonder if the fact that Braille was in the rotor 
in addition to the braille display somehow confused VoiceOver into reversing 
actions for the Braille connectivity. Though the support rep I talked with said 
he had heard of some cases where the onscreen keyboard would disappear when 
BlueTooth headphones are connected.


> On Dec 16, 2018, at 10:39 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
>   Forget the braille device or turn off Bluetooth? Did you try these?
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were 
> true?
> 
> On 12/16/2018 4:57 PM, Jonathan Cohn wrote:
>> Well, I made a little progress. Essentially the onscreen keyboard toggle now 
>> appears to be completely backward. When the Braille display is connected to 
>> the iPhone 7, then the OnScreen keyboard is available but as soon as I get 
>> out of range, turn off the keyboard, or otherwise disable the Braille 
>> display, the OnScreen keyboard disappears.
>> I am very tempted to reset all settings, but then I would need to put my 
>> credit cards back into Apple Pay.
>> Best wishes,
>> Jonathan Cohn
>>> On Dec 15, 2018, at 7:42 PM, Mary Otten >> <mailto:motte...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Jonathan,
>>> I just had this happen today. It was very annoying. I have an external 
>>> Bluetooth keyboard, and I thought maybe that was the problem. So I turned 
>>> off Bluetooth. Rebooted the phone. No luck. I went into general settings 
>>> keyboard and found out that for some reason I had three keyboards listed, 
>>> two of which were United States English qwerty. I deleted one of those, 
>>> rebooted the phone, and my keyboard returned. I don’t know why it listed US 
>>> English twice. And I don’t know if it was just coincidental that getting 
>>> rid of one of them should cause the keyboard to reappear. But it did.
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Dec 15, 2018, at 4:01 PM, Jonathan Cohn >>> <mailto:jon.c.c...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks for the replies. so far, I have not been able to get the onscreen 
>>>> keyboard to appear again. I have tried removing the pairing of the Braille 
>>>> display, toggling the show keyboard check box several times, reset the 
>>>> system with bluetooth off and with airplane mode on, and probably 5 other 
>>>> similar attempts. I have not yet looked at support pages on the web, but 
>>>> then again I am just getting onto a computer now since my post last night. 
>>>> Oh, and I apologize for the typo’s in that post, I was using the VoiceOver 
>>>> braille on screen keyboard.
>>>> 
>>>> I will definitely post if I get a solution that works, if anybody else has 
>>>> ideas please keep them coming.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Dec 15, 2018, at 12:15 AM, Katie Zodrow >>>> <mailto:kzodrow...@att.net>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Jonathan. This happened to me also at the beginning of December over 
>>>>> the weekend, and it was pretty frustrating when I couldn't dictate or 
>>>>> type on my phone with the on screen keyboard. It was like my phone 
>>>>> thought I was still connected to Bluetooth with my braille display even 
>>>>> though the display was already turned off. Try switching Bluetooth off 
>>>>> and then back on and see if that helps. If that doesn't work, try turning 
>>>>> Bluetooth off and do a soft reset on your phone. When I had this problem, 
>>>>> I eventually went to the Apple Store on Monday and they were able to 
>>>>> reset my phone. None of my apps or data was erased and I did a back up 
>>>>> beforehand just in case that might happen. The keyboard magically 
>>

Re: missing onscreen keyboard on iPhone

[Jonathan Cohn]

Well, thought it was resolved but it showed up again. My co-worker did 
something counterintuitive that might have resolved things. Apparently old 
bluetooth configurations can get stuck in the phone when you unpair the device. 
He turned off onscreen keyboard in the Braille settings, and restarted the 
phone. I’ll try things out a bit, and if it works I’ll get a full write up of 
the procedure. I would not have even expected him to know how to get to Braille 
settings on an iPhone, though he was the person in our office who went to 
Hawaii board of education and helped get things set up for their Blind students.
Jonathan Cohn 
 
> On Dec 17, 2018, at 2:59 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
>   If you mean braille screen input, who knows. I do not have that in mu 
> rotor. This sure is perplexing. A total reset would indeed be the last resort 
> but it might end up being the best solution.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> Many believe that we have been visited
> in the past. What if it were true?
> 
> On 12/17/2018 11:14 AM, Jonathan Cohn wrote:
>> Two points for ET though not directly, since I was on the phone with Apple. 
>> I removed pairing of the Braille device, removed braille  from the rotor, 
>> turned off bluetooth and then powered down and powered up.
>> I am almost tempted to try and cause the reversal again to see if I can 
>> simplify that reset process. I wonder if the fact that Braille was in the 
>> rotor in addition to the braille display somehow confused VoiceOver into 
>> reversing actions for the Braille connectivity. Though the support rep I 
>> talked with said he had heard of some cases where the onscreen keyboard 
>> would disappear when BlueTooth headphones are connected.
>>> On Dec 16, 2018, at 10:39 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>>   Forget the braille device or turn off Bluetooth? Did you try these?
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>> Many believe that we have been visited
>>> in the past. What if it were true?
>>> 
>>> On 12/16/2018 4:57 PM, Jonathan Cohn wrote:
 Well, I made a little progress. Essentially the onscreen keyboard toggle 
 now appears to be completely backward. When the Braille display is 
 connected to the iPhone 7, then the OnScreen keyboard is available but as 
 soon as I get out of range, turn off the keyboard, or otherwise disable 
 the Braille display, the OnScreen keyboard disappears.
 I am very tempted to reset all settings, but then I would need to put my 
 credit cards back into Apple Pay.
 Best wishes,
 Jonathan Cohn
> On Dec 15, 2018, at 7:42 PM, Mary Otten  > wrote:
> 
> Hi Jonathan,
> I just had this happen today. It was very annoying. I have an external 
> Bluetooth keyboard, and I thought maybe that was the problem. So I turned 
> off Bluetooth. Rebooted the phone. No luck. I went into general settings 
> keyboard and found out that for some reason I had three keyboards listed, 
> two of which were United States English qwerty. I deleted one of those, 
> rebooted the phone, and my keyboard returned. I don’t know why it listed 
> US English twice. And I don’t know if it was just coincidental that 
> getting rid of one of them should cause the keyboard to reappear. But it 
> did.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 15, 2018, at 4:01 PM, Jonathan Cohn > > wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks for the replies. so far, I have not been able to get the onscreen 
>> keyboard to appear again. I have tried removing the pairing of the 
>> Braille display, toggling the show keyboard check box several times, 
>> reset the system with bluetooth off and with airplane mode on, and 
>> probably 5 other similar attempts. I have not yet looked at support 
>> pages on the web, but then again I am just getting onto a computer now 
>> since my post last night. Oh, and I apologize for the typo’s in that 
>> post, I was using the VoiceOver braille on screen keyboard.
>> 
>> I will definitely post if I get a solution that works, if anybody else 
>> has ideas please keep them coming.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Dec 15, 2018, at 12:15 AM, Katie Zodrow >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Jonathan. This happened to me also at the beginning of December over 
>>> the weekend, and it was pretty frustrating when I couldn't dictate or 
>>> type on my phone with the on screen keyboard. It was like my phone 
>>> thought I was still connected to Bluetooth with my braille display even 
>>> though the display was already turned off. Try switching Bluetooth off 
>>> and then back on and see if that helps. If that doesn't work, try 
>>> turning Bluetooth off and do a soft reset on your phone. When I had 
>>> this problem, I eventually we

Re: missing onscreen keyboard on iPhone

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

   If you mean braille screen input, who knows. I do not have that in 
mu rotor. This sure is perplexing. A total reset would indeed be the 
last resort but it might end up being the best solution.


From E.T.'s Keyboard...
   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 12/17/2018 11:14 AM, Jonathan Cohn wrote:

Two points for ET though not directly, since I was on the phone with Apple. I 
removed pairing of the Braille device, removed braille  from the rotor, turned 
off bluetooth and then powered down and powered up.

I am almost tempted to try and cause the reversal again to see if I can 
simplify that reset process. I wonder if the fact that Braille was in the rotor 
in addition to the braille display somehow confused VoiceOver into reversing 
actions for the Braille connectivity. Though the support rep I talked with said 
he had heard of some cases where the onscreen keyboard would disappear when 
BlueTooth headphones are connected.



On Dec 16, 2018, at 10:39 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

   Forget the braille device or turn off Bluetooth? Did you try these?

 From E.T.'s Keyboard...
   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 12/16/2018 4:57 PM, Jonathan Cohn wrote:

Well, I made a little progress. Essentially the onscreen keyboard toggle now 
appears to be completely backward. When the Braille display is connected to the 
iPhone 7, then the OnScreen keyboard is available but as soon as I get out of 
range, turn off the keyboard, or otherwise disable the Braille display, the 
OnScreen keyboard disappears.
I am very tempted to reset all settings, but then I would need to put my credit 
cards back into Apple Pay.
Best wishes,
Jonathan Cohn

On Dec 15, 2018, at 7:42 PM, Mary Otten mailto:motte...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi Jonathan,
I just had this happen today. It was very annoying. I have an external 
Bluetooth keyboard, and I thought maybe that was the problem. So I turned off 
Bluetooth. Rebooted the phone. No luck. I went into general settings keyboard 
and found out that for some reason I had three keyboards listed, two of which 
were United States English qwerty. I deleted one of those, rebooted the phone, 
and my keyboard returned. I don’t know why it listed US English twice. And I 
don’t know if it was just coincidental that getting rid of one of them should 
cause the keyboard to reappear. But it did.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone


On Dec 15, 2018, at 4:01 PM, Jonathan Cohn mailto:jon.c.c...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Thanks for the replies. so far, I have not been able to get the onscreen 
keyboard to appear again. I have tried removing the pairing of the Braille 
display, toggling the show keyboard check box several times, reset the system 
with bluetooth off and with airplane mode on, and probably 5 other similar 
attempts. I have not yet looked at support pages on the web, but then again I 
am just getting onto a computer now since my post last night. Oh, and I 
apologize for the typo’s in that post, I was using the VoiceOver braille on 
screen keyboard.

I will definitely post if I get a solution that works, if anybody else has 
ideas please keep them coming.



On Dec 15, 2018, at 12:15 AM, Katie Zodrow mailto:kzodrow...@att.net>> wrote:

Hi Jonathan. This happened to me also at the beginning of December over the 
weekend, and it was pretty frustrating when I couldn't dictate or type on my 
phone with the on screen keyboard. It was like my phone thought I was still 
connected to Bluetooth with my braille display even though the display was 
already turned off. Try switching Bluetooth off and then back on and see if 
that helps. If that doesn't work, try turning Bluetooth off and do a soft reset 
on your phone. When I had this problem, I eventually went to the Apple Store on 
Monday and they were able to reset my phone. None of my apps or data was erased 
and I did a back up beforehand just in case that might happen. The keyboard 
magically reappeared again after they turned off Bluetooth and reset it.
Hope that helps.
Katie
Sent from my iPhone


On Dec 14, 2018, at 7:14 PM, Jonathan C. Cohn mailto:jon.c.c...@gmail.com>> wrote:

sometime in the last 2 days, while playingeaa Braille display, my keyboard 
stoppeed appearing ih gone throughsettings but can't get it to reappear. 
Guidance gratefully sought! '

Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn

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Re: missing onscreen keyboard on iPhone

[Jonathan Cohn]

Simon,

Good idea. I had tried the keyboard / dictionary reset but did not think about 
BlueTooth really being a networking protocol.

Something else to keep in the tool bag for next time.

> On Dec 17, 2018, at 12:59 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> What about the network connections doesn’t that reset Bluetooth etc and leave 
> your other apps etc alone.
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of Jonathan Cohn
> Sent: Monday, 17 December 2018 1:58 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: missing onscreen keyboard on iPhone
>  
> Well, I made a little progress. Essentially the onscreen keyboard toggle now 
> appears to be completely backward. When the Braille display is connected to 
> the iPhone 7, then the OnScreen keyboard is available but as soon as I get 
> out of range, turn off the keyboard, or otherwise disable the Braille 
> display, the OnScreen keyboard disappears.  
> I am very tempted to reset all settings, but then I would need to put my 
> credit cards back into Apple Pay.
>  
> Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan Cohn
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Dec 15, 2018, at 7:42 PM, Mary Otten  <mailto:motte...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>  
> Hi Jonathan,
> I just had this happen today. It was very annoying. I have an external 
> Bluetooth keyboard, and I thought maybe that was the problem. So I turned off 
> Bluetooth. Rebooted the phone. No luck. I went into general settings keyboard 
> and found out that for some reason I had three keyboards listed, two of which 
> were United States English qwerty. I deleted one of those, rebooted the 
> phone, and my keyboard returned. I don’t know why it listed US English twice. 
> And I don’t know if it was just coincidental that getting rid of one of them 
> should cause the keyboard to reappear. But it did.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> On Dec 15, 2018, at 4:01 PM, Jonathan Cohn  <mailto:jon.c.c...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> Thanks for the replies. so far, I have not been able to get the onscreen 
> keyboard to appear again. I have tried removing the pairing of the Braille 
> display, toggling the show keyboard check box several times, reset the system 
> with bluetooth off and with airplane mode on, and probably 5 other similar 
> attempts. I have not yet looked at support pages on the web, but then again I 
> am just getting onto a computer now since my post last night. Oh, and I 
> apologize for the typo’s in that post, I was using the VoiceOver braille on 
> screen keyboard. 
> 
> I will definitely post if I get a solution that works, if anybody else has 
> ideas please keep them coming.
> 
> 
> 
> On Dec 15, 2018, at 12:15 AM, Katie Zodrow  <mailto:kzodrow...@att.net>> wrote:
> 
> Hi Jonathan. This happened to me also at the beginning of December over the 
> weekend, and it was pretty frustrating when I couldn't dictate or type on my 
> phone with the on screen keyboard. It was like my phone thought I was still 
> connected to Bluetooth with my braille display even though the display was 
> already turned off. Try switching Bluetooth off and then back on and see if 
> that helps. If that doesn't work, try turning Bluetooth off and do a soft 
> reset on your phone. When I had this problem, I eventually went to the Apple 
> Store on Monday and they were able to reset my phone. None of my apps or data 
> was erased and I did a back up beforehand just in case that might happen. The 
> keyboard magically reappeared again after they turned off Bluetooth and reset 
> it.
> Hope that helps.
> Katie
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> On Dec 14, 2018, at 7:14 PM, Jonathan C. Cohn  <mailto:jon.c.c...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> sometime in the last 2 days, while playingeaa Braille display, my keyboard 
> stoppeed appearing ih gone throughsettings but can't get it to reappear. 
> Guidance gratefully sought! '
> 
> Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan Cohn 
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Re: missing onscreen keyboard on iPhone

[Jonathan Cohn]

Two points for ET though not directly, since I was on the phone with Apple. I 
removed pairing of the Braille device, removed braille  from the rotor, turned 
off bluetooth and then powered down and powered up.

I am almost tempted to try and cause the reversal again to see if I can 
simplify that reset process. I wonder if the fact that Braille was in the rotor 
in addition to the braille display somehow confused VoiceOver into reversing 
actions for the Braille connectivity. Though the support rep I talked with said 
he had heard of some cases where the onscreen keyboard would disappear when 
BlueTooth headphones are connected.


> On Dec 16, 2018, at 10:39 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
>   Forget the braille device or turn off Bluetooth? Did you try these?
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> Many believe that we have been visited
> in the past. What if it were true?
> 
> On 12/16/2018 4:57 PM, Jonathan Cohn wrote:
>> Well, I made a little progress. Essentially the onscreen keyboard toggle now 
>> appears to be completely backward. When the Braille display is connected to 
>> the iPhone 7, then the OnScreen keyboard is available but as soon as I get 
>> out of range, turn off the keyboard, or otherwise disable the Braille 
>> display, the OnScreen keyboard disappears.
>> I am very tempted to reset all settings, but then I would need to put my 
>> credit cards back into Apple Pay.
>> Best wishes,
>> Jonathan Cohn
>>> On Dec 15, 2018, at 7:42 PM, Mary Otten >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Jonathan,
>>> I just had this happen today. It was very annoying. I have an external 
>>> Bluetooth keyboard, and I thought maybe that was the problem. So I turned 
>>> off Bluetooth. Rebooted the phone. No luck. I went into general settings 
>>> keyboard and found out that for some reason I had three keyboards listed, 
>>> two of which were United States English qwerty. I deleted one of those, 
>>> rebooted the phone, and my keyboard returned. I don’t know why it listed US 
>>> English twice. And I don’t know if it was just coincidental that getting 
>>> rid of one of them should cause the keyboard to reappear. But it did.
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Dec 15, 2018, at 4:01 PM, Jonathan Cohn >>> > wrote:
 
 Thanks for the replies. so far, I have not been able to get the onscreen 
 keyboard to appear again. I have tried removing the pairing of the Braille 
 display, toggling the show keyboard check box several times, reset the 
 system with bluetooth off and with airplane mode on, and probably 5 other 
 similar attempts. I have not yet looked at support pages on the web, but 
 then again I am just getting onto a computer now since my post last night. 
 Oh, and I apologize for the typo’s in that post, I was using the VoiceOver 
 braille on screen keyboard.
 
 I will definitely post if I get a solution that works, if anybody else has 
 ideas please keep them coming.
 
 
> On Dec 15, 2018, at 12:15 AM, Katie Zodrow  > wrote:
> 
> Hi Jonathan. This happened to me also at the beginning of December over 
> the weekend, and it was pretty frustrating when I couldn't dictate or 
> type on my phone with the on screen keyboard. It was like my phone 
> thought I was still connected to Bluetooth with my braille display even 
> though the display was already turned off. Try switching Bluetooth off 
> and then back on and see if that helps. If that doesn't work, try turning 
> Bluetooth off and do a soft reset on your phone. When I had this problem, 
> I eventually went to the Apple Store on Monday and they were able to 
> reset my phone. None of my apps or data was erased and I did a back up 
> beforehand just in case that might happen. The keyboard magically 
> reappeared again after they turned off Bluetooth and reset it.
> Hope that helps.
> Katie
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 14, 2018, at 7:14 PM, Jonathan C. Cohn > > wrote:
>> 
>> sometime in the last 2 days, while playingeaa Braille display, my 
>> keyboard stoppeed appearing ih gone throughsettings but can't get it to 
>> reappear. Guidance gratefully sought! '
>> 
>> Best wishes,
>> 
>> Jonathan Cohn
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RE: missing onscreen keyboard on iPhone

[Simon Fogarty]

What about the network connections doesn’t that reset Bluetooth etc and leave 
your other apps etc alone.

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Jonathan Cohn
Sent: Monday, 17 December 2018 1:58 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: missing onscreen keyboard on iPhone

Well, I made a little progress. Essentially the onscreen keyboard toggle now 
appears to be completely backward. When the Braille display is connected to the 
iPhone 7, then the OnScreen keyboard is available but as soon as I get out of 
range, turn off the keyboard, or otherwise disable the Braille display, the 
OnScreen keyboard disappears.
I am very tempted to reset all settings, but then I would need to put my credit 
cards back into Apple Pay.

Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



On Dec 15, 2018, at 7:42 PM, Mary Otten 
mailto:motte...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi Jonathan,
I just had this happen today. It was very annoying. I have an external 
Bluetooth keyboard, and I thought maybe that was the problem. So I turned off 
Bluetooth. Rebooted the phone. No luck. I went into general settings keyboard 
and found out that for some reason I had three keyboards listed, two of which 
were United States English qwerty. I deleted one of those, rebooted the phone, 
and my keyboard returned. I don’t know why it listed US English twice. And I 
don’t know if it was just coincidental that getting rid of one of them should 
cause the keyboard to reappear. But it did.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone


On Dec 15, 2018, at 4:01 PM, Jonathan Cohn 
mailto:jon.c.c...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Thanks for the replies. so far, I have not been able to get the onscreen 
keyboard to appear again. I have tried removing the pairing of the Braille 
display, toggling the show keyboard check box several times, reset the system 
with bluetooth off and with airplane mode on, and probably 5 other similar 
attempts. I have not yet looked at support pages on the web, but then again I 
am just getting onto a computer now since my post last night. Oh, and I 
apologize for the typo’s in that post, I was using the VoiceOver braille on 
screen keyboard.

I will definitely post if I get a solution that works, if anybody else has 
ideas please keep them coming.



On Dec 15, 2018, at 12:15 AM, Katie Zodrow 
mailto:kzodrow...@att.net>> wrote:

Hi Jonathan. This happened to me also at the beginning of December over the 
weekend, and it was pretty frustrating when I couldn't dictate or type on my 
phone with the on screen keyboard. It was like my phone thought I was still 
connected to Bluetooth with my braille display even though the display was 
already turned off. Try switching Bluetooth off and then back on and see if 
that helps. If that doesn't work, try turning Bluetooth off and do a soft reset 
on your phone. When I had this problem, I eventually went to the Apple Store on 
Monday and they were able to reset my phone. None of my apps or data was erased 
and I did a back up beforehand just in case that might happen. The keyboard 
magically reappeared again after they turned off Bluetooth and reset it.
Hope that helps.
Katie
Sent from my iPhone


On Dec 14, 2018, at 7:14 PM, Jonathan C. Cohn 
mailto:jon.c.c...@gmail.com>> wrote:

sometime in the last 2 days, while playingeaa Braille display, my keyboard 
stoppeed appearing ih gone throughsettings but can't get it to reappear. 
Guidance gratefully sought! '

Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn

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Re: missing onscreen keyboard on iPhone

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

   Forget the braille device or turn off Bluetooth? Did you try these?

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 12/16/2018 4:57 PM, Jonathan Cohn wrote:
Well, I made a little progress. Essentially the onscreen keyboard toggle 
now appears to be completely backward. When the Braille display is 
connected to the iPhone 7, then the OnScreen keyboard is available but 
as soon as I get out of range, turn off the keyboard, or otherwise 
disable the Braille display, the OnScreen keyboard disappears.
I am very tempted to reset all settings, but then I would need to put my 
credit cards back into Apple Pay.


Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



On Dec 15, 2018, at 7:42 PM, Mary Otten > wrote:


Hi Jonathan,
I just had this happen today. It was very annoying. I have an external 
Bluetooth keyboard, and I thought maybe that was the problem. So I 
turned off Bluetooth. Rebooted the phone. No luck. I went into general 
settings keyboard and found out that for some reason I had three 
keyboards listed, two of which were United States English qwerty. I 
deleted one of those, rebooted the phone, and my keyboard returned. I 
don’t know why it listed US English twice. And I don’t know if it was 
just coincidental that getting rid of one of them should cause the 
keyboard to reappear. But it did.

Mary


Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 15, 2018, at 4:01 PM, Jonathan Cohn > wrote:


Thanks for the replies. so far, I have not been able to get the 
onscreen keyboard to appear again. I have tried removing the pairing 
of the Braille display, toggling the show keyboard check box several 
times, reset the system with bluetooth off and with airplane mode on, 
and probably 5 other similar attempts. I have not yet looked at 
support pages on the web, but then again I am just getting onto a 
computer now since my post last night. Oh, and I apologize for the 
typo’s in that post, I was using the VoiceOver braille on screen 
keyboard.


I will definitely post if I get a solution that works, if anybody 
else has ideas please keep them coming.



On Dec 15, 2018, at 12:15 AM, Katie Zodrow > wrote:


Hi Jonathan. This happened to me also at the beginning of December 
over the weekend, and it was pretty frustrating when I couldn't 
dictate or type on my phone with the on screen keyboard. It was like 
my phone thought I was still connected to Bluetooth with my braille 
display even though the display was already turned off. Try 
switching Bluetooth off and then back on and see if that helps. If 
that doesn't work, try turning Bluetooth off and do a soft reset on 
your phone. When I had this problem, I eventually went to the Apple 
Store on Monday and they were able to reset my phone. None of my 
apps or data was erased and I did a back up beforehand just in case 
that might happen. The keyboard magically reappeared again after 
they turned off Bluetooth and reset it.

Hope that helps.
Katie
Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 14, 2018, at 7:14 PM, Jonathan C. Cohn > wrote:


sometime in the last 2 days, while playingeaa Braille display, my 
keyboard stoppeed appearing ih gone throughsettings but can't get 
it to reappear. Guidance gratefully sought! '


Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn

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Re: missing onscreen keyboard on iPhone

[Jonathan Cohn]

Well, I made a little progress. Essentially the onscreen keyboard toggle now 
appears to be completely backward. When the Braille display is connected to the 
iPhone 7, then the OnScreen keyboard is available but as soon as I get out of 
range, turn off the keyboard, or otherwise disable the Braille display, the 
OnScreen keyboard disappears.  
I am very tempted to reset all settings, but then I would need to put my credit 
cards back into Apple Pay.
 
Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



> On Dec 15, 2018, at 7:42 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Hi Jonathan,
> I just had this happen today. It was very annoying. I have an external 
> Bluetooth keyboard, and I thought maybe that was the problem. So I turned off 
> Bluetooth. Rebooted the phone. No luck. I went into general settings keyboard 
> and found out that for some reason I had three keyboards listed, two of which 
> were United States English qwerty. I deleted one of those, rebooted the 
> phone, and my keyboard returned. I don’t know why it listed US English twice. 
> And I don’t know if it was just coincidental that getting rid of one of them 
> should cause the keyboard to reappear. But it did.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 15, 2018, at 4:01 PM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks for the replies. so far, I have not been able to get the onscreen 
>> keyboard to appear again. I have tried removing the pairing of the Braille 
>> display, toggling the show keyboard check box several times, reset the 
>> system with bluetooth off and with airplane mode on, and probably 5 other 
>> similar attempts. I have not yet looked at support pages on the web, but 
>> then again I am just getting onto a computer now since my post last night. 
>> Oh, and I apologize for the typo’s in that post, I was using the VoiceOver 
>> braille on screen keyboard. 
>> 
>> I will definitely post if I get a solution that works, if anybody else has 
>> ideas please keep them coming.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Dec 15, 2018, at 12:15 AM, Katie Zodrow  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Jonathan. This happened to me also at the beginning of December over the 
>>> weekend, and it was pretty frustrating when I couldn't dictate or type on 
>>> my phone with the on screen keyboard. It was like my phone thought I was 
>>> still connected to Bluetooth with my braille display even though the 
>>> display was already turned off. Try switching Bluetooth off and then back 
>>> on and see if that helps. If that doesn't work, try turning Bluetooth off 
>>> and do a soft reset on your phone. When I had this problem, I eventually 
>>> went to the Apple Store on Monday and they were able to reset my phone. 
>>> None of my apps or data was erased and I did a back up beforehand just in 
>>> case that might happen. The keyboard magically reappeared again after they 
>>> turned off Bluetooth and reset it.
>>> Hope that helps.
>>> Katie
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Dec 14, 2018, at 7:14 PM, Jonathan C. Cohn  wrote:
 
 sometime in the last 2 days, while playingeaa Braille display, my keyboard 
 stoppeed appearing ih gone throughsettings but can't get it to reappear. 
 Guidance gratefully sought! '
 
 Best wishes,
 
 Jonathan Cohn 
 
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Re: missing onscreen keyboard on iPhone

[Jonathan Cohn]

Interesting. Since this happened, I switched the Hebrew keyboard from automatic 
to Israel and added a m-braille keyboard. I will try removing those two just 
leaving US English and Emogii.


> On Dec 15, 2018, at 7:42 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Hi Jonathan,
> I just had this happen today. It was very annoying. I have an external 
> Bluetooth keyboard, and I thought maybe that was the problem. So I turned off 
> Bluetooth. Rebooted the phone. No luck. I went into general settings keyboard 
> and found out that for some reason I had three keyboards listed, two of which 
> were United States English qwerty. I deleted one of those, rebooted the 
> phone, and my keyboard returned. I don’t know why it listed US English twice. 
> And I don’t know if it was just coincidental that getting rid of one of them 
> should cause the keyboard to reappear. But it did.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 15, 2018, at 4:01 PM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks for the replies. so far, I have not been able to get the onscreen 
>> keyboard to appear again. I have tried removing the pairing of the Braille 
>> display, toggling the show keyboard check box several times, reset the 
>> system with bluetooth off and with airplane mode on, and probably 5 other 
>> similar attempts. I have not yet looked at support pages on the web, but 
>> then again I am just getting onto a computer now since my post last night. 
>> Oh, and I apologize for the typo’s in that post, I was using the VoiceOver 
>> braille on screen keyboard. 
>> 
>> I will definitely post if I get a solution that works, if anybody else has 
>> ideas please keep them coming.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Dec 15, 2018, at 12:15 AM, Katie Zodrow  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Jonathan. This happened to me also at the beginning of December over the 
>>> weekend, and it was pretty frustrating when I couldn't dictate or type on 
>>> my phone with the on screen keyboard. It was like my phone thought I was 
>>> still connected to Bluetooth with my braille display even though the 
>>> display was already turned off. Try switching Bluetooth off and then back 
>>> on and see if that helps. If that doesn't work, try turning Bluetooth off 
>>> and do a soft reset on your phone. When I had this problem, I eventually 
>>> went to the Apple Store on Monday and they were able to reset my phone. 
>>> None of my apps or data was erased and I did a back up beforehand just in 
>>> case that might happen. The keyboard magically reappeared again after they 
>>> turned off Bluetooth and reset it.
>>> Hope that helps.
>>> Katie
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Dec 14, 2018, at 7:14 PM, Jonathan C. Cohn  wrote:
 
 sometime in the last 2 days, while playingeaa Braille display, my keyboard 
 stoppeed appearing ih gone throughsettings but can't get it to reappear. 
 Guidance gratefully sought! '
 
 Best wishes,
 
 Jonathan Cohn 
 
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Re: missing onscreen keyboard on iPhone

[Mary Otten]

Hi Jonathan,
I just had this happen today. It was very annoying. I have an external 
Bluetooth keyboard, and I thought maybe that was the problem. So I turned off 
Bluetooth. Rebooted the phone. No luck. I went into general settings keyboard 
and found out that for some reason I had three keyboards listed, two of which 
were United States English qwerty. I deleted one of those, rebooted the phone, 
and my keyboard returned. I don’t know why it listed US English twice. And I 
don’t know if it was just coincidental that getting rid of one of them should 
cause the keyboard to reappear. But it did.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 15, 2018, at 4:01 PM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
> 
> Thanks for the replies. so far, I have not been able to get the onscreen 
> keyboard to appear again. I have tried removing the pairing of the Braille 
> display, toggling the show keyboard check box several times, reset the system 
> with bluetooth off and with airplane mode on, and probably 5 other similar 
> attempts. I have not yet looked at support pages on the web, but then again I 
> am just getting onto a computer now since my post last night. Oh, and I 
> apologize for the typo’s in that post, I was using the VoiceOver braille on 
> screen keyboard. 
> 
> I will definitely post if I get a solution that works, if anybody else has 
> ideas please keep them coming.
> 
> 
>> On Dec 15, 2018, at 12:15 AM, Katie Zodrow  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Jonathan. This happened to me also at the beginning of December over the 
>> weekend, and it was pretty frustrating when I couldn't dictate or type on my 
>> phone with the on screen keyboard. It was like my phone thought I was still 
>> connected to Bluetooth with my braille display even though the display was 
>> already turned off. Try switching Bluetooth off and then back on and see if 
>> that helps. If that doesn't work, try turning Bluetooth off and do a soft 
>> reset on your phone. When I had this problem, I eventually went to the Apple 
>> Store on Monday and they were able to reset my phone. None of my apps or 
>> data was erased and I did a back up beforehand just in case that might 
>> happen. The keyboard magically reappeared again after they turned off 
>> Bluetooth and reset it.
>> Hope that helps.
>> Katie
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Dec 14, 2018, at 7:14 PM, Jonathan C. Cohn  wrote:
>>> 
>>> sometime in the last 2 days, while playingeaa Braille display, my keyboard 
>>> stoppeed appearing ih gone throughsettings but can't get it to reappear. 
>>> Guidance gratefully sought! '
>>> 
>>> Best wishes,
>>> 
>>> Jonathan Cohn 
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Re: missing onscreen keyboard on iPhone

[Jonathan Cohn]

Thanks for the replies. so far, I have not been able to get the onscreen 
keyboard to appear again. I have tried removing the pairing of the Braille 
display, toggling the show keyboard check box several times, reset the system 
with bluetooth off and with airplane mode on, and probably 5 other similar 
attempts. I have not yet looked at support pages on the web, but then again I 
am just getting onto a computer now since my post last night. Oh, and I 
apologize for the typo’s in that post, I was using the VoiceOver braille on 
screen keyboard. 

I will definitely post if I get a solution that works, if anybody else has 
ideas please keep them coming.


> On Dec 15, 2018, at 12:15 AM, Katie Zodrow  wrote:
> 
> Hi Jonathan. This happened to me also at the beginning of December over the 
> weekend, and it was pretty frustrating when I couldn't dictate or type on my 
> phone with the on screen keyboard. It was like my phone thought I was still 
> connected to Bluetooth with my braille display even though the display was 
> already turned off. Try switching Bluetooth off and then back on and see if 
> that helps. If that doesn't work, try turning Bluetooth off and do a soft 
> reset on your phone. When I had this problem, I eventually went to the Apple 
> Store on Monday and they were able to reset my phone. None of my apps or data 
> was erased and I did a back up beforehand just in case that might happen. The 
> keyboard magically reappeared again after they turned off Bluetooth and reset 
> it.
> Hope that helps.
> Katie
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 14, 2018, at 7:14 PM, Jonathan C. Cohn  wrote:
>> 
>> sometime in the last 2 days, while playingeaa Braille display, my keyboard 
>> stoppeed appearing ih gone throughsettings but can't get it to reappear. 
>> Guidance gratefully sought! '
>> 
>> Best wishes,
>> 
>> Jonathan Cohn 
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Re: missing onscreen keyboard on iPhone

[Katie Zodrow]

Hi Jonathan. This happened to me also at the beginning of December over the 
weekend, and it was pretty frustrating when I couldn't dictate or type on my 
phone with the on screen keyboard. It was like my phone thought I was still 
connected to Bluetooth with my braille display even though the display was 
already turned off. Try switching Bluetooth off and then back on and see if 
that helps. If that doesn't work, try turning Bluetooth off and do a soft reset 
on your phone. When I had this problem, I eventually went to the Apple Store on 
Monday and they were able to reset my phone. None of my apps or data was erased 
and I did a back up beforehand just in case that might happen. The keyboard 
magically reappeared again after they turned off Bluetooth and reset it.
Hope that helps.
Katie
Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 14, 2018, at 7:14 PM, Jonathan C. Cohn  wrote:
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> sometime in the last 2 days, while playingeaa Braille display, my keyboard 
> stoppeed appearing ih gone throughsettings but can't get it to reappear. 
> Guidance gratefully sought! '
> 
> Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan Cohn 
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Re: missing onscreen keyboard on iPhone

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   Look in Settings, General, Accessibility, VoiceOver, Braille. Turn 
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On 12/14/2018 7:14 PM, Jonathan C. Cohn wrote:

sometime in the last 2 days, while playingeaa Braille display, my keyboard 
stoppeed appearing ih gone throughsettings but can't get it to reappear. 
Guidance gratefully sought! '

Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



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missing onscreen keyboard on iPhone

[Jonathan C. Cohn]

sometime in the last 2 days, while playingeaa Braille display, my keyboard 
stoppeed appearing ih gone throughsettings but can't get it to reappear. 
Guidance gratefully sought! '

Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn 

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