Re: I hate mouse keys!!!

2016-08-17 Thread Donna Goodin
Hi Tim,

You just made my day!!!

The problem is that I manage to do this to myself about once a year, by which 
time, I've already forgotten how I disabled it the last time. :)  So, I'm very 
happy to know there's a way to just turn this feature off.
Cheers,
Donna
> On Aug 17, 2016, at 10:37 AM, Tim Kilburn <kilbu...@me.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Donna,
> 
> Mouse-keys can be toggled on and off by pressing the Option key five times.  
> If your keyboard is getting tired, sometimes the Option key sort of presses 
> multiple times when you have it down which will thus turn your mouse-keys on. 
>  The easiest thing to do to fix this issue is to turn off the five presses of 
> the Option key feature.  To turn this feature off, go to System Preferences, 
> Accessibility, then select Mouse and racked from the table.  Stop interacting 
> with the table and navigate right to the Options button.  In the dialog that 
> appears, uncheck the item that talks about toggling Mouse-keys on/off with 
> the Option key.  Now, as long as mouse-keys are off, that toggle will not 
> turn them on.  The only way you'll be able to turn Mouse-keys on will be to 
> check the box in the Accessibility pane.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Aug 17, 2016, at 07:37, Donna Goodin <doniado...@me.com> wrote:
> 
> Can somebody please tell me how to turn those stupid things off? And while 
> I'm at it, is there a way to permanently disable them?
> Thanks,
> Donna
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Re: I hate mouse keys!!!

2016-08-17 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi Donna,

Mouse-keys can be toggled on and off by pressing the Option key five times.  If 
your keyboard is getting tired, sometimes the Option key sort of presses 
multiple times when you have it down which will thus turn your mouse-keys on.  
The easiest thing to do to fix this issue is to turn off the five presses of 
the Option key feature.  To turn this feature off, go to System Preferences, 
Accessibility, then select Mouse and racked from the table.  Stop interacting 
with the table and navigate right to the Options button.  In the dialog that 
appears, uncheck the item that talks about toggling Mouse-keys on/off with the 
Option key.  Now, as long as mouse-keys are off, that toggle will not turn them 
on.  The only way you'll be able to turn Mouse-keys on will be to check the box 
in the Accessibility pane.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Aug 17, 2016, at 07:37, Donna Goodin <doniado...@me.com> wrote:

Can somebody please tell me how to turn those stupid things off? And while I'm 
at it, is there a way to permanently disable them?
Thanks,
Donna
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I hate mouse keys!!!

2016-08-17 Thread Donna Goodin
Can somebody please tell me how to turn those stupid things off? And while I'm 
at it, is there a way to permanently disable them?
Thanks,
Donna
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Mouse Keys in abled

2013-07-01 Thread Estelita

Hi,
I turned the Mouse Keys in abled in Universal Access preferences, as it says 
that I can use the keyboard keys to move the mouse pointer.
My apple keyboard doesn't have a numeric keypad, so I use the Fn key along 
the key commands, but the mouse doesn't work when I try the commands like 
mouse button: fn-5, Hold mouse button: fn-0 etc.

Any idea what is missing here please?
I can turn the mouse on/off by pressing the option key 5 times, that's all I 
can do on it at the moment.

Thank you in advance for any assistance.

Estelita 


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Mouse keys doing a mess

2013-04-22 Thread Daniela Rubio
Hello:
Just to see if somebody has experienced the same and if we could fix it. When I 
activate mouse Keys, my keyboard becomes unusable. I can't hit enter, or CMD+W 
or Q, nothing works as it should. Not even VO+Space bar. I need to untick the 
checkbox using my trackpad if I want my Mac to be OK again.
I am using the latest version of ML and a macbook pro.
Thank you for your ideas!
Best

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Re: Mouse keys doing a mess

2013-04-22 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
Did you lock your keys by accident? I did that once. 

VO semicolon

Kawal.

On 22 Apr 2013, at 10:52 AM, Daniela Rubio mabuha...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello:
 Just to see if somebody has experienced the same and if we could fix it. When 
 I activate mouse Keys, my keyboard becomes unusable. I can't hit enter, or 
 CMD+W or Q, nothing works as it should. Not even VO+Space bar. I need to 
 untick the checkbox using my trackpad if I want my Mac to be OK again.
 I am using the latest version of ML and a macbook pro.
 Thank you for your ideas!
 Best
 
 Daniela Rubio T
 iPhone: +34662328507
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: Mouse keys doing a mess

2013-04-22 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Daniela,

Mousekeys interferes with the normal use of the keyboard. This is why I have it 
set to be toggled on and off by pressing the Option key 5 times. You certainly 
don't want Mousekeys on permanently.

Cheers,

Anne


On 22 Apr 2013, at 11:52, Daniela Rubio mabuha...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello:
 Just to see if somebody has experienced the same and if we could fix it. When 
 I activate mouse Keys, my keyboard becomes unusable. I can't hit enter, or 
 CMD+W or Q, nothing works as it should. Not even VO+Space bar. I need to 
 untick the checkbox using my trackpad if I want my Mac to be OK again.
 I am using the latest version of ML and a macbook pro.
 Thank you for your ideas!
 Best
 
 Daniela Rubio T
 iPhone: +34662328507
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: Mouse keys doing a mess

2013-04-22 Thread Teresa Cochran
How odd. I don't notice that it interferes, and I leave mouse keys on all the 
time.

Teresa
On Apr 22, 2013, at 3:30 AM, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote:

 Hello Daniela,
 
 Mousekeys interferes with the normal use of the keyboard. This is why I have 
 it set to be toggled on and off by pressing the Option key 5 times. You 
 certainly don't want Mousekeys on permanently.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 On 22 Apr 2013, at 11:52, Daniela Rubio mabuha...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello:
 Just to see if somebody has experienced the same and if we could fix it. 
 When I activate mouse Keys, my keyboard becomes unusable. I can't hit enter, 
 or CMD+W or Q, nothing works as it should. Not even VO+Space bar. I need to 
 untick the checkbox using my trackpad if I want my Mac to be OK again.
 I am using the latest version of ML and a macbook pro.
 Thank you for your ideas!
 Best
 
 Daniela Rubio T
 iPhone: +34662328507
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: Mouse keys doing a mess

2013-04-22 Thread Daniela Rubio
Thank you for the suggestion. Now it does what I need to do and I turn it back 
off.
Take care!
Best

Daniela Rubio T
iPhone: +34662328507






El 22/04/2013, a las 12:30, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk escribió:

 Hello Daniela,
 
 Mousekeys interferes with the normal use of the keyboard. This is why I have 
 it set to be toggled on and off by pressing the Option key 5 times. You 
 certainly don't want Mousekeys on permanently.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 On 22 Apr 2013, at 11:52, Daniela Rubio mabuha...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello:
 Just to see if somebody has experienced the same and if we could fix it. 
 When I activate mouse Keys, my keyboard becomes unusable. I can't hit enter, 
 or CMD+W or Q, nothing works as it should. Not even VO+Space bar. I need to 
 untick the checkbox using my trackpad if I want my Mac to be OK again.
 I am using the latest version of ML and a macbook pro.
 Thank you for your ideas!
 Best
 
 Daniela Rubio T
 iPhone: +34662328507
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: Mouse keys doing a mess

2013-04-22 Thread Daniela Rubio
Well, Thank you for saying this, do you also have a mac book pro? It is very 
strange, isn't it? Thank you if there are more ideas!
Best

Daniela Rubio T
iPhone: +34662328507






El 22/04/2013, a las 16:14, Teresa Cochran vegaspipistre...@gmail.com 
escribió:

 How odd. I don't notice that it interferes, and I leave mouse keys on all the 
 time.
 
 Teresa
 On Apr 22, 2013, at 3:30 AM, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote:
 
 Hello Daniela,
 
 Mousekeys interferes with the normal use of the keyboard. This is why I have 
 it set to be toggled on and off by pressing the Option key 5 times. You 
 certainly don't want Mousekeys on permanently.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 On 22 Apr 2013, at 11:52, Daniela Rubio mabuha...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello:
 Just to see if somebody has experienced the same and if we could fix it. 
 When I activate mouse Keys, my keyboard becomes unusable. I can't hit 
 enter, or CMD+W or Q, nothing works as it should. Not even VO+Space bar. I 
 need to untick the checkbox using my trackpad if I want my Mac to be OK 
 again.
 I am using the latest version of ML and a macbook pro.
 Thank you for your ideas!
 Best
 
 Daniela Rubio T
 iPhone: +34662328507
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: Mouse keys doing a mess

2013-04-22 Thread Teresa Cochran
This might be the difference. I have a Mac Mini with standard keyboard. I 
wasn't paying attention to the model of the machine you have; sorry.

Teresa
On Apr 22, 2013, at 10:30 AM, Daniela Rubio mabuha...@gmail.com wrote:

 Well, Thank you for saying this, do you also have a mac book pro? It is very 
 strange, isn't it? Thank you if there are more ideas!
 Best
 
 Daniela Rubio T
 iPhone: +34662328507
 
 
 
 
 
 
 El 22/04/2013, a las 16:14, Teresa Cochran vegaspipistre...@gmail.com 
 escribió:
 
 How odd. I don't notice that it interferes, and I leave mouse keys on all 
 the time.
 
 Teresa
 On Apr 22, 2013, at 3:30 AM, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote:
 
 Hello Daniela,
 
 Mousekeys interferes with the normal use of the keyboard. This is why I 
 have it set to be toggled on and off by pressing the Option key 5 times. 
 You certainly don't want Mousekeys on permanently.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 On 22 Apr 2013, at 11:52, Daniela Rubio mabuha...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello:
 Just to see if somebody has experienced the same and if we could fix it. 
 When I activate mouse Keys, my keyboard becomes unusable. I can't hit 
 enter, or CMD+W or Q, nothing works as it should. Not even VO+Space bar. I 
 need to untick the checkbox using my trackpad if I want my Mac to be OK 
 again.
 I am using the latest version of ML and a macbook pro.
 Thank you for your ideas!
 Best
 
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 iPhone: +34662328507
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Using Mouse Keys {was Re: Take Control eBooks' September Sale]

2012-09-30 Thread Esther
Hi Steve,

I don't need to use mouse keys to check the boxes on the Take Control site (see 
my previous post), but here's a link to an old post from the macvisionaries 
archives:
• Re: mouse keys
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/msg64233.html

You can skip most of the explanation, and just set up Mouse Keys to turn on and 
off with by pressing the Option key 5 times quickly under System Preferences  
Accessibility (used to be Universal Access in earlier version of the OS) 
under the Mouse  Keyboard options, and if you're using Mountain Lion, you can 
also use Command-Option-F5, I think, to get to the panel to enable or disable 
Mouse Keys.  Make sure to do the verbosity set-up in VoiceOver utility that 
Anne described. (It's explained in more detail in the linked post).  Then you 
can click on controls using your i key.

HTH.  Cheers,

Esther

On Sep 30, 2012, at 08:34, Steve Holmes wrote:

 I'm trying to figure out how to use the mouse keys again; I've only done this 
 some while ago.  I certainly cannot find the checkboxes.  Any review 
 possible? I can't seem to find anything in VO helps about mouse keys either.
 
 Sorry for so much trouble.  If these books weren't that interesting, I 
 wouldn't bother with this pig of a website!!!
 
 On Sep 30, 2012, at 10:07 AM, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote:
 
 Hello Steve,
 
 I've just had a look at this table and it's a total mess! I can get further 
 down through it by using mousekeys, but the VoiceOver cursor won't go there. 
 This site is renowned for being horrible to navigate in any case.
 
 Sorry not to have a better solution, but mousekeys is all that works for me. 
 If you want to try this method, make sure that you have the check box Speak 
 text under mouse after delay checked in the Verbosity category, 
 Announcements tab, in VoiceOver utility. Oh yes, and set the delay to zero.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 On 30 Sep 2012, at 18:30, Steve Holmes steve.holme...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Help!!! Something terribly wrong with navigation of tables or something.  
 When I go to the below site and try and navigate the table, I can't go down 
 through the remaining rows.  While inside the table of books, I use the 
 VO-Arrow keys to try and go on down past row 2 but it appears to be going 
 across the table and then it wraps back to top row again.  What might I be 
 doing wrong here? I haven't had trouble with tables in HTML before.
 
 I'm using 10.8.2.
 
 On Sep 28, 2012, at 5:37 PM, Esther mori...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Hi All,
 
 The Take Control ebooks, one of the great sources of information for the 
 Mac and iOS devices, are on sale for the end of September with a coupon 
 code of CPN20921SEPSALE (without the quotation marks) that will give a 
 50% discount when applied at check out up through the end of September.  
 These books are DRM-free, and are available in both PDF and ePub versions. 
  Furthermore, once you purchase a book, which generally lists for $10 or 
 $15, you can get all minor version revisions free and re-download 
 alternate formats from your account, and often you can get a discount on 
 the new major version of the eBook.
 
 I'm cc'ing this to the viphone list, because some titles, such as Take 
 Control of iTunes or even Take Control of Switching to the Mac, may be 
 of interest.  For Mac users, titles such as Take Control of Apple Mail in 
 Mountain Lion,
 Take Control of Using Mountain Lion, Take Control of Troubleshooting 
 Your Mac, Second Edition, Take Control of the Mac Command Line with 
 Terminal (for learning to use Terminal and unix concepts), Take Control 
 of Backing Up Your Mac, and Take Control of Your 802.11n AirPort 
 Network, Third Edition (for general Wi-Fi setups and use) might be of 
 interest.  These guides are very hands on and practical;  some of them 
 have information that I've never found anywhere else.  
 
 If you log in through their special anniversary sale link, the coupon code 
 should get filled in automatically.  This URL is:
 http://tid.bl.it/september-sale-mountain-lion
 
 Alternatively, if this web page is busy, you can go to their catalog page:
 http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/catalog
 
 You can browse the Take Control titles in iBooks, if you have an iOS 
 device, but the discounted price and the ability to download alternative 
 formats and be informed of new, free, updates is only available for 
 purchases made through their web site.  (I find it easier to browse the 
 titles in iBooks).
 
 I'll put in a few sample direct links to specific books on their web site:
 • Take Control of iTunes 10: The FAQ, Second Edition
 http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/itunes
 • Take Control of Apple Mail in Mountain Lion
 http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/mountain-lion-apple-mail
 • Take Control of Using Mountain Lion
 http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/mountain-lion-using
 • Take Control of Switching to the Mac
 http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/switching
 • Take Control of Backing up Your Mac

Mouse Keys

2012-04-16 Thread Michael Malarsie
Greetings!
So I had never checked out the mouse keys before. I have enabled it but 
haven't had a lot of time to play with it.
Can anyone share some of the basics with me? thanks ya'll!

Mike Malarsie 

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Re: Mouse Keys

2012-04-16 Thread Esther
Hi Michael,

Mouse Keys are designed so that people with fine motor control disabilities can 
perform actions, such as clicking or moving the mouse, with precision.  I've 
only used it with VoiceOver in a few situations.  The first is when a physical 
mouse click with trackpad or cursor is required.  The VO-Shift-Space shortcut 
is a simulated mouse click implemented by software.  The VO-Space shortcut is 
another software defined shortcut that performs the default action -- which 
could be pressing a button, clicking on link, selecting a menu option, etc. 
depending on context.  There are some instances, especially in situations where 
applications are not fully accessible or are transitioning in accessibility 
with VoiceOver, where these kinds of software clicks do not work, and you 
have to physically click your trackpad or mouse for your click to take effect.  
In these instances, performing a click with Mouse Keys mode turned on is 
equivalent to physically clicking with mouse or trackpad.  The NumPad Commander 
keyboard shortcut for a key click, which David Griffith informs me in another 
post is Control+5 on the numeric keypad in Lion, will also always work as a 
hardware click.  (This used to be just the unmodified 5 key on the numeric 
keypad of a full-size keyboard in Leopard, but in Snow Leopard and Lion this 
was switched from Clicks the mouse to Perform action for item, and clicking 
the mouse required pressing the Control key together with the 5 key on the 
NumPad. Now that I think about it, the ability to use VO-Shift-Space to 
double-click on the splitter in mail to hide the Preview pane in the message 
viewer window also went away when we moved from Leopard to Snow Leopard.)

In addition to allowing users to click a mouse or trackpad without moving the 
position of the mouse pointer, Mouse Keys mode lets you move the mouse pointer 
position on the screen in pixel increments by using key strokes.  So the second 
circumstance in which I've used Mouse Keys is for instances when I need to move 
the mouse pointer to locations that VoiceOver doesn't navigate to, in order to 
click on controls.  The most common example of this usage is when trying to 
deal with flash controls on a web page.  VoiceOver can't see these controls, 
in the sense that you can't use VoiceOver commands to navigate to them, since 
Adobe's Flash does not comply with Apple's accessibility API.  However, if you 
manage to move your mouse pointer over a flash control independently of using 
VoiceOver's cursor, because you've turned cursor tracking off (with 
VO-Shift-F3), VoiceOver can tell you what is under your mouse pointer (with 
VO-F5, or by checking the box for Speak text under mouse after delay in the 
Announcements tab of Verbosity in VoiceOver Utility) and will even describe 
the screen coordinate location of your mouse pointer (VO-F5-F5 or VO-F5-F5-F5). 
  

So the way I used to play the Audible audio book sound samples before they 
changed their web pages from Flash only to HTML 5 versions was by navigating to 
Sample with VoiceOver, then turning keyboard tracking off, and Mouse Keys on, 
and moving the mouse pointer 50 pixels to the left of Sample so that the 
player control was under the mouse pointer.  Then I would click to start the 
sample playing.  On extended keyboards, Mouse Keys uses the numeric keypad, 
with the central 5 key to designate the current position of the mouse.  To 
move the mouse pointer 1 pixel to the left, you press the key the left of the 
5 key once, and similarly if you want to move to the right, up, down. or 
diagonally.  You use the nine number keys (1-9, with 5 in the central 
position), to move your cursor, pixel by pixel.

On a laptop keyboard, the keys you use are where the embedded numeric keypad 
used to be -- surrounding the i key.  So j k l was 1 2 3, u i o was 4 
5 6, and 7 8 9 (on the top row of number keys) was 7 8 9.  To move to the 
left I tap the u key with Mouse Keys on. To move to the right I tap the o 
key.  And to click my mouse I tap the i key when Mouse Keys are turned on.

Note that you can also move your mouse pointer using the trackpad (when 
TrackPad Commander in turned off) if cursor tracking is turned off. If you have 
the box checked for Speak text under mouse after delay in the Announcements 
tab of Verbosity in VoiceOver Utility, you'll also be told what is under the 
mouse. (You may want to adjust the slider to make the time delay short).  This 
does not require using Mouse Keys at all. In Snow Leopard, we could use this 
method to navigate to icons for Dropbox, etc. on the status menu bar that 
VoiceOver didn't see, by moving the mouse pointer using the trackpad along the 
top edge of the screen, if cursor tracking were turned off.  Then you could 
click on those icons once VoiceOver announced you were on top of them to open 
the menus.   (I used to use Mouse Keys to get a feel for the distance between 
icons -- usually 30 pixels separation.)  I haven't

mouse keys and mouse focus

2011-10-08 Thread Ray Foret Jr
Has anybody using Lion tried to turn their mouse keys on using the option key 
five times?  I have mine set to do that; but, the mouse keys always turn off 
right away.  Also, in the Universal preferences tab, it's impossible to check 
the mouse keys on using the radio buttons because the second you do, the mouse 
keys just toggle back off again.  I wonder whether or not this has anything to 
do with the dificulty we seem to be having pressing control+F8 and then moving 
the mouse to the special menu at the right end of the menu bar?  
BTW, any word on when that will be fixed?

Thanks.


Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!

Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!

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Re: mouse keys and mouse focus

2011-10-08 Thread Candie Stiles
I have experienced the same thing. I haven't been able to figure out a way to 
get the mouse keys to stay on. I've done some research and so far haven't come 
across a date of when this will be fixed.
On Oct 8, 2011, at 1:10 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:

 Has anybody using Lion tried to turn their mouse keys on using the option key 
 five times?  I have mine set to do that; but, the mouse keys always turn off 
 right away.  Also, in the Universal preferences tab, it's impossible to check 
 the mouse keys on using the radio buttons because the second you do, the 
 mouse keys just toggle back off again.  I wonder whether or not this has 
 anything to do with the dificulty we seem to be having pressing control+F8 
 and then moving the mouse to the special menu at the right end of the menu 
 bar?  
 BTW, any word on when that will be fixed?
 
 Thanks.
 
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
 
 Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
 
 Skype name:
 barefootedray
 
 Facebook:
 facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
 
 
 
 
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mouse keys

2011-08-09 Thread chad baker
hi quick question what's the mouse keys on and off feature in the universal 
access menu
when its turned is there keys to move it up down left right
i tried keyboard help but no response
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mouse keys solved disregard message

2011-08-09 Thread chad baker
hi i figured the mouse keys shortcuts out
i just went to help in the universal access window

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Re: mouse keys

2011-08-09 Thread Mike Arrigo
This allows you to control the mouse using the numeric keypad, I think it uses 
the regular keyboard on a laptop.
On Aug 9, 2011, at 11:43 AM, chad baker wrote:

 hi quick question what's the mouse keys on and off feature in the universal 
 access menu
 when its turned is there keys to move it up down left right
 i tried keyboard help but no response
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Re: mouse keys

2011-08-09 Thread ROD SKENE
Yep. just be sure to turn off num pad commander. I use this function to play 
the sample on the Audible website.  The flash player is not seen by BoiceOver.  
Learned this trick last night in the Archives.
I've had my Mac for three weeks.
I feel like I'm at McDonald's with a Mac: I'm loving it!  LOL
Rod

On Aug 9, 2011, at 7:20 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote:

 This allows you to control the mouse using the numeric keypad, I think it 
 uses the regular keyboard on a laptop.
 On Aug 9, 2011, at 11:43 AM, chad baker wrote:
 
 hi quick question what's the mouse keys on and off feature in the universal 
 access menu
 when its turned is there keys to move it up down left right
 i tried keyboard help but no response
 thanks
 
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enabling mouse keys

2010-12-15 Thread chad
hi i remember someone talked about enabling mouse keys can't remember
i went to system preferences then universal access then mouse and trackpad then 
selected the on button
then checked the box where it said ignore multitrack pad

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JAWS mouse keys and Fusion

2009-06-07 Thread E.J. Zufelt

Good afternoon,

Slightly off topic, but not really as the problem only occurs when  
using JAWS in VMWare Fusion on my Macbook.

I am able to get JAWS into JAWS Cursor mode (insert + [).  But, I  
cannot perform a JAWS left or right click.  Using a Macbook Aluminum.

Does anyone know if this is a limitation of Fusion or my Macbook  
keyboard?

Thanks,
Everett

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How to use mouse keys and Audible.com samples [was Re: how to use audible.com]

2009-05-18 Thread Esther

Hi Will,

We seem to have been crossing posts; see my last reply to find out how  
to use mouse keys.  Briefly: you turn on Mouse Keys in the Universal  
Access menu under System Preferences, but using the Mouse  Trackpad  
tab.  There's a check box option there to let you turn it on/off by  
pressing the option key 5 times.  I check the box to show Universal  
Access status on the menu bar (this is also available from the  
Seeing tab for VoiceOver) so if I need to check whether Mouse Keys  
is on or off I can go to the status menu bar (VO-M twice or Control-F8

  and arrow over to Universal Access menu).  When you activate mouse  
keys you move your mouse with key presses.  These used to be the arrow  
keys on the embedded numeric keypad, where 7 8 9 matched the same  
keys on the top row of the keyboard.  The other key mappings are 4 5  
6 maps to u i o and 1 2 3 maps to j k l.  The 5 in the center  
of the 3x3 block of numbers is current position.  To move your mouse  
up, down, left, right, or diagonally by one screen pixel you press the  
key above, below, to the left, right, or diagonally from the current  
position 5 key.  On the keyboard that means you press the key to the  
left of the i key (or u) to move left, and the key to right (or  
o) to move right.

Up: 8
Down: k
Left: u
RIght: o
and the corresponding diagonal movements:
Up and left: 7
Up and right: 9
Down and left: j
Down and right: l

Mouse keys move 1 pixel in each direction.  They're really used for  
precise mouse positioning, so they're not good for large moves.  The  
advantage is that they give you exact control of moving your cursor in  
x or y, and if you calibrate the offset once for your computer (such  
as 49 key presses to the right of the Sample text will be centered  
on the flash player control) you can just turn them on and count key  
presses.  Remember to turn them off again when you're done. (I do this  
by pressing option 5 times).

Cheers,

Esther

On May 18, 2009, at 9:09 AM, william lomas wrote:


 how does one do a mouse key search with a macbook

 On 18 May 2009, at 19:00, Esther wrote:


 Hi Will,

 Most of the links on the UK Audible site seem to work.  If you're
 browsing the BBC Audiozone, none of the summary page links appear to
 work, but if you select the link for an individual book the Click to
 play sample on that page works correctly.  Note that both the  
 summary
 page for the BBC Audiozone and the individual book pages there have a
 return to Audible link, so I suspect that Audible's design is not
 the problem.  If the site is busy, you might want to try reloading a
 page (with Command-R), and then checking the links.

 Incidentally, the Audible.com U.S. site uses flash to play the
 samples.  The workaround for the U.S. site that was posted on the
 lioncourt.com site last year has to be modified with Audible's recent
 web page redesign; the Listen text item has been replaced with
 Sample, and you have to do a mouse keys search by moving to the
 right of Sample (instead of searching to the left of Listen).   
 The
 link address that Josh originally posted to the list doesn't work
 now.  Actually, I can't get to the database for the lioncourt.com  
 page
 at all at this time.  I think the link should now be:

 http://www.lioncourt.com/2008/07/19/play-samples-on-audiblecom-with-voiceover/

 If that does not work, look for Mac-cessibility tip #20.

 Cheers,

 Esther

 On May 18, 2009, at 4:41 AM, william lomas wrote:


 hi how can I play a sample of a book on audible.com?
 the UK audible site which I buy from says click here for sample but
 on
 the dot com site nothing happens








 


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