Can't launch safari after reinstalling Lion

2012-07-30 Thread Andrew Lamanche
Hi All,

I have had to reinstall mac os 10.74 Lion. Having done so, every time I attempt 
to launch sAfari, it crashes and I get the familiar problem reporter window. 
Has anyone else ever had this problem? What could possibly have happened? I can 
successfully use Google Chrome but SAfari? No way. How can it be explained?

Thanks for any help.

Andrew

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Re: reinstalling lion

2011-09-17 Thread Paul Erkens
Hi Ioana, and Teresa,
Because of a message by Ricardo Walker,I now know I forgot to mention a simpler 
option. If lion is already installed Iona, you could also reinstall a clean 
lion from the recovery partition. When lion installs, not only will it simply 
install into macintosh hd, but a separate, hidden partition will also be 
created by the lion installer. If you already have lion, no matter if it was 
installed by the previous mac owner, the recovery partition will be there. Shut 
down the mac, start it, and during the chime sound, hit, and keep holding, 
command r. These 2 keys will boot the mac from its lion recovery partition. 
After some ten seconds you can be sure the recovery partition is booting and 
you can let go of command r. After 2 minutes or so it will be booted. Probably 
less, but after you give it some time, hit command f5 to turn voiceover on. 
Fred will help you from there.
Hth,
Paul.
On Sep 17, 2011, at 6:14 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote:

 Hi, Ioana,
 
 Once the OS is installed, the installer package deletes itself. You could try 
 looking in the applications folder for it on the off-chance it was replaced 
 ther by the previous owner, but it's unlikely to be there. Sorry.
 
 Teresa
 On Sep 16, 2011, at 3:28 PM, Ioana Gandrabur wrote:
 
 Hi Paul and list,Given that the previous owner downloaded the file, would he 
 not have an instaler somewhere on the mac?
 Regardless, I did sign out of his account in the app store and signed in 
 with mine (I already had one for my iPhone) and searched for lion. 
 unfortunately I could not buy it since it showed a dimmed installed button. 
 I have the sno leopard dvd that came with the mac and I suppose I could 
 erase the drive and install from that and upgrade.
 Any better way you can think of?
 
 assuming I have to do what I outlined above, how do I start? Have to erase 
 first and start the install from dvd?
 
 Thanks so much!
 
 A very excited newbie.
 
 
 (Sent from my phone)
 
 Please check out my new CD at www.ioanagandrabur.com or on itunes.
 
 On Sep 16, 2011, at 2:54 PM, Paul Erkens paul.erk...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Iona,
 I don't think you need the apple id of the previous owner. However, you do 
 need to get hold of the lion installer app. Which is over 3 gigabytes. 
 Normally, you download this from the app store. Do you have an apple ID of 
 your own yet? If you do, when asked for your apple ID, you can fill in your 
 own, so that lion can be payed for, using your own apple  ID. If you don't 
 have one yet, you can create one in each dialog where you are asked for it. 
 You can then put money on to that apple account using either itunes gift 
 cards, attaching your credit card to it, or you can put money on the apple 
 ID by using services like click and buy.
 
 Once you have the lion app from the app store, there is a way to burn that 
 onto a dvd. Alternatively, you can put the installer on a usb stick. Either 
 way, you then boot from cd or usb stick, install lion, all with speech 
 support along your way, then perform software updates, and then start to 
 use it by installing apps and putting your own data on it.
 But now that you still have a mac with someone else's installation, the 
 first thing to do is get hold of the lion installer app. For that, you need 
 an apple account or apple ID. Then you must make sure that you can do 
 purchases with it, and then you can download the lion installer from app 
 store. Let's start with that. If you have questions along the way, just 
 ask. When you have the installer, say so and we can try to help further.
 Hth,
 Paul.
 On Sep 16, 2011, at 6:59 PM, Ioana Gandrabur wrote:
 
 Greetings,
 
 As I mentioned in previous posts, I have a 2nd hand mac mini with lion 
 installed that I would like to reset from beginning to change operating 
 system language and other settings.
 
 During install, do I require the Apple ID and password of previous owner 
 and purchaser of lion? 
 Could you recommend a guide of re--installing lion?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Ioana
 
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Re: reinstalling lion

2011-09-17 Thread Dan
Hello,
This brings up another question.
When reinstalling Lion, how does a VoiceOver user access the internet from the 
recovery drive?
In other words:
1. The computer has been rebooted using Command R at the chime.
2. VO using Fred has been started.
3. Now it's time to start the reinstall process for a clean install.
4. The OS wants to verify the machines serial number with Apple.
Now the question comes in to play. How does a blind VO user access a wired 
internet service?
When I emailed Apple's Accessibility group, they just said that they were 
working on this problem.
Any suggestions?
TIA.

Dan

On Sep 17, 2011, at 7:08 AM, Paul Erkens wrote:

 Hi Ioana, and Teresa,
 Because of a message by Ricardo Walker,I now know I forgot to mention a 
 simpler option. If lion is already installed Iona, you could also reinstall a 
 clean lion from the recovery partition. When lion installs, not only will it 
 simply install into macintosh hd, but a separate, hidden partition will also 
 be created by the lion installer. If you already have lion, no matter if it 
 was installed by the previous mac owner, the recovery partition will be 
 there. Shut down the mac, start it, and during the chime sound, hit, and keep 
 holding, command r. These 2 keys will boot the mac from its lion recovery 
 partition. After some ten seconds you can be sure the recovery partition is 
 booting and you can let go of command r. After 2 minutes or so it will be 
 booted. Probably less, but after you give it some time, hit command f5 to 
 turn voiceover on. Fred will help you from there.
 Hth,
 Paul.
 On Sep 17, 2011, at 6:14 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
 
 Hi, Ioana,
 
 Once the OS is installed, the installer package deletes itself. You could 
 try looking in the applications folder for it on the off-chance it was 
 replaced ther by the previous owner, but it's unlikely to be there. Sorry.
 
 Teresa
 On Sep 16, 2011, at 3:28 PM, Ioana Gandrabur wrote:
 
 Hi Paul and list,Given that the previous owner downloaded the file, would 
 he not have an instaler somewhere on the mac?
 Regardless, I did sign out of his account in the app store and signed in 
 with mine (I already had one for my iPhone) and searched for lion. 
 unfortunately I could not buy it since it showed a dimmed installed button. 
 I have the sno leopard dvd that came with the mac and I suppose I could 
 erase the drive and install from that and upgrade.
 Any better way you can think of?
 
 assuming I have to do what I outlined above, how do I start? Have to erase 
 first and start the install from dvd?
 
 Thanks so much!
 
 A very excited newbie.
 
 
 (Sent from my phone)
 
 Please check out my new CD at www.ioanagandrabur.com or on itunes.
 
 On Sep 16, 2011, at 2:54 PM, Paul Erkens paul.erk...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Iona,
 I don't think you need the apple id of the previous owner. However, you do 
 need to get hold of the lion installer app. Which is over 3 gigabytes. 
 Normally, you download this from the app store. Do you have an apple ID of 
 your own yet? If you do, when asked for your apple ID, you can fill in 
 your own, so that lion can be payed for, using your own apple  ID. If you 
 don't have one yet, you can create one in each dialog where you are asked 
 for it. You can then put money on to that apple account using either 
 itunes gift cards, attaching your credit card to it, or you can put money 
 on the apple ID by using services like click and buy.
 
 Once you have the lion app from the app store, there is a way to burn that 
 onto a dvd. Alternatively, you can put the installer on a usb stick. 
 Either way, you then boot from cd or usb stick, install lion, all with 
 speech support along your way, then perform software updates, and then 
 start to use it by installing apps and putting your own data on it.
 But now that you still have a mac with someone else's installation, the 
 first thing to do is get hold of the lion installer app. For that, you 
 need an apple account or apple ID. Then you must make sure that you can do 
 purchases with it, and then you can download the lion installer from app 
 store. Let's start with that. If you have questions along the way, just 
 ask. When you have the installer, say so and we can try to help further.
 Hth,
 Paul.
 On Sep 16, 2011, at 6:59 PM, Ioana Gandrabur wrote:
 
 Greetings,
 
 As I mentioned in previous posts, I have a 2nd hand mac mini with lion 
 installed that I would like to reset from beginning to change operating 
 system language and other settings.
 
 During install, do I require the Apple ID and password of previous owner 
 and purchaser of lion? 
 Could you recommend a guide of re--installing lion?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Ioana
 
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Re: reinstalling lion

2011-09-17 Thread Ioana Gandrabur
Hi,

Thanks for this.
Will it let me eerase the disk first during the re-install? Also, do you know f 
it is toosmart for its own good and remembers old user settnngs or can I set 
everything from scratch? I want to set os language and other such things.

Thanks,

Ioana

(Sent from my phone)

Please check out my new CD at www.ioanagandrabur.com or on itunes.

On Sep 17, 2011, at 10:08 AM, Paul Erkens paul.erk...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Ioana, and Teresa,
 Because of a message by Ricardo Walker,I now know I forgot to mention a 
 simpler option. If lion is already installed Iona, you could also reinstall a 
 clean lion from the recovery partition. When lion installs, not only will it 
 simply install into macintosh hd, but a separate, hidden partition will also 
 be created by the lion installer. If you already have lion, no matter if it 
 was installed by the previous mac owner, the recovery partition will be 
 there. Shut down the mac, start it, and during the chime sound, hit, and keep 
 holding, command r. These 2 keys will boot the mac from its lion recovery 
 partition. After some ten seconds you can be sure the recovery partition is 
 booting and you can let go of command r. After 2 minutes or so it will be 
 booted. Probably less, but after you give it some time, hit command f5 to 
 turn voiceover on. Fred will help you from there.
 Hth,
 Paul.
 On Sep 17, 2011, at 6:14 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
 
 Hi, Ioana,
 
 Once the OS is installed, the installer package deletes itself. You could 
 try looking in the applications folder for it on the off-chance it was 
 replaced ther by the previous owner, but it's unlikely to be there. Sorry.
 
 Teresa
 On Sep 16, 2011, at 3:28 PM, Ioana Gandrabur wrote:
 
 Hi Paul and list,Given that the previous owner downloaded the file, would 
 he not have an instaler somewhere on the mac?
 Regardless, I did sign out of his account in the app store and signed in 
 with mine (I already had one for my iPhone) and searched for lion. 
 unfortunately I could not buy it since it showed a dimmed installed button. 
 I have the sno leopard dvd that came with the mac and I suppose I could 
 erase the drive and install from that and upgrade.
 Any better way you can think of?
 
 assuming I have to do what I outlined above, how do I start? Have to erase 
 first and start the install from dvd?
 
 Thanks so much!
 
 A very excited newbie.
 
 
 (Sent from my phone)
 
 Please check out my new CD at www.ioanagandrabur.com or on itunes.
 
 On Sep 16, 2011, at 2:54 PM, Paul Erkens paul.erk...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Iona,
 I don't think you need the apple id of the previous owner. However, you do 
 need to get hold of the lion installer app. Which is over 3 gigabytes. 
 Normally, you download this from the app store. Do you have an apple ID of 
 your own yet? If you do, when asked for your apple ID, you can fill in 
 your own, so that lion can be payed for, using your own apple  ID. If you 
 don't have one yet, you can create one in each dialog where you are asked 
 for it. You can then put money on to that apple account using either 
 itunes gift cards, attaching your credit card to it, or you can put money 
 on the apple ID by using services like click and buy.
 
 Once you have the lion app from the app store, there is a way to burn that 
 onto a dvd. Alternatively, you can put the installer on a usb stick. 
 Either way, you then boot from cd or usb stick, install lion, all with 
 speech support along your way, then perform software updates, and then 
 start to use it by installing apps and putting your own data on it.
 But now that you still have a mac with someone else's installation, the 
 first thing to do is get hold of the lion installer app. For that, you 
 need an apple account or apple ID. Then you must make sure that you can do 
 purchases with it, and then you can download the lion installer from app 
 store. Let's start with that. If you have questions along the way, just 
 ask. When you have the installer, say so and we can try to help further.
 Hth,
 Paul.
 On Sep 16, 2011, at 6:59 PM, Ioana Gandrabur wrote:
 
 Greetings,
 
 As I mentioned in previous posts, I have a 2nd hand mac mini with lion 
 installed that I would like to reset from beginning to change operating 
 system language and other settings.
 
 During install, do I require the Apple ID and password of previous owner 
 and purchaser of lion? 
 Could you recommend a guide of re--installing lion?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Ioana
 
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Re: reinstalling lion

2011-09-17 Thread Ioana Gandrabur
Hi again,

So do you mean that to reinstall you need to be connected via cable? Would the 
iphone usb connection do? How much does it have do download? I am asking 
because I only have 6 gb per month and would love to avoid downloading the 
whole os.

Thanks,

Ioana

(Sent from my phone)

Please check out my new CD at www.ioanagandrabur.com or on itunes.

On Sep 17, 2011, at 11:22 AM, Dan key...@comcast.net wrote:

 Hello,
 This brings up another question.
 When reinstalling Lion, how does a VoiceOver user access the internet from 
 the recovery drive?
 In other words:
 1. The computer has been rebooted using Command R at the chime.
 2. VO using Fred has been started.
 3. Now it's time to start the reinstall process for a clean install.
 4. The OS wants to verify the machines serial number with Apple.
 Now the question comes in to play. How does a blind VO user access a wired 
 internet service?
 When I emailed Apple's Accessibility group, they just said that they were 
 working on this problem.
 Any suggestions?
 TIA.
 
 Dan
 
 On Sep 17, 2011, at 7:08 AM, Paul Erkens wrote:
 
 Hi Ioana, and Teresa,
 Because of a message by Ricardo Walker,I now know I forgot to mention a 
 simpler option. If lion is already installed Iona, you could also reinstall 
 a clean lion from the recovery partition. When lion installs, not only will 
 it simply install into macintosh hd, but a separate, hidden partition will 
 also be created by the lion installer. If you already have lion, no matter 
 if it was installed by the previous mac owner, the recovery partition will 
 be there. Shut down the mac, start it, and during the chime sound, hit, and 
 keep holding, command r. These 2 keys will boot the mac from its lion 
 recovery partition. After some ten seconds you can be sure the recovery 
 partition is booting and you can let go of command r. After 2 minutes or so 
 it will be booted. Probably less, but after you give it some time, hit 
 command f5 to turn voiceover on. Fred will help you from there.
 Hth,
 Paul.
 On Sep 17, 2011, at 6:14 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
 
 Hi, Ioana,
 
 Once the OS is installed, the installer package deletes itself. You could 
 try looking in the applications folder for it on the off-chance it was 
 replaced ther by the previous owner, but it's unlikely to be there. Sorry.
 
 Teresa
 On Sep 16, 2011, at 3:28 PM, Ioana Gandrabur wrote:
 
 Hi Paul and list,Given that the previous owner downloaded the file, would 
 he not have an instaler somewhere on the mac?
 Regardless, I did sign out of his account in the app store and signed in 
 with mine (I already had one for my iPhone) and searched for lion. 
 unfortunately I could not buy it since it showed a dimmed installed 
 button. 
 I have the sno leopard dvd that came with the mac and I suppose I could 
 erase the drive and install from that and upgrade.
 Any better way you can think of?
 
 assuming I have to do what I outlined above, how do I start? Have to erase 
 first and start the install from dvd?
 
 Thanks so much!
 
 A very excited newbie.
 
 
 (Sent from my phone)
 
 Please check out my new CD at www.ioanagandrabur.com or on itunes.
 
 On Sep 16, 2011, at 2:54 PM, Paul Erkens paul.erk...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Iona,
 I don't think you need the apple id of the previous owner. However, you 
 do need to get hold of the lion installer app. Which is over 3 gigabytes. 
 Normally, you download this from the app store. Do you have an apple ID 
 of your own yet? If you do, when asked for your apple ID, you can fill in 
 your own, so that lion can be payed for, using your own apple  ID. If you 
 don't have one yet, you can create one in each dialog where you are asked 
 for it. You can then put money on to that apple account using either 
 itunes gift cards, attaching your credit card to it, or you can put money 
 on the apple ID by using services like click and buy.
 
 Once you have the lion app from the app store, there is a way to burn 
 that onto a dvd. Alternatively, you can put the installer on a usb stick. 
 Either way, you then boot from cd or usb stick, install lion, all with 
 speech support along your way, then perform software updates, and then 
 start to use it by installing apps and putting your own data on it.
 But now that you still have a mac with someone else's installation, the 
 first thing to do is get hold of the lion installer app. For that, you 
 need an apple account or apple ID. Then you must make sure that you can 
 do purchases with it, and then you can download the lion installer from 
 app store. Let's start with that. If you have questions along the way, 
 just ask. When you have the installer, say so and we can try to help 
 further.
 Hth,
 Paul.
 On Sep 16, 2011, at 6:59 PM, Ioana Gandrabur wrote:
 
 Greetings,
 
 As I mentioned in previous posts, I have a 2nd hand mac mini with lion 
 installed that I would like to reset from beginning to change operating 
 system language and other settings.
 
 During install

Re: reinstalling lion

2011-09-17 Thread Dan
Hello,
Sorry, I don't know what to tell you.
I don't know about an iPhone internet connection.
I'm referring to my local ether net connection, from the Recovery Partition.

Dan

On Sep 17, 2011, at 11:12 AM, Ioana Gandrabur wrote:

 Hi again,
 
 So do you mean that to reinstall you need to be connected via cable? Would 
 the iphone usb connection do? How much does it have do download? I am asking 
 because I only have 6 gb per month and would love to avoid downloading the 
 whole os.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Ioana
 
 (Sent from my phone)
 
 Please check out my new CD at www.ioanagandrabur.com or on itunes.
 
 On Sep 17, 2011, at 11:22 AM, Dan key...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 Hello,
 This brings up another question.
 When reinstalling Lion, how does a VoiceOver user access the internet from 
 the recovery drive?
 In other words:
 1. The computer has been rebooted using Command R at the chime.
 2. VO using Fred has been started.
 3. Now it's time to start the reinstall process for a clean install.
 4. The OS wants to verify the machines serial number with Apple.
 Now the question comes in to play. How does a blind VO user access a wired 
 internet service?
 When I emailed Apple's Accessibility group, they just said that they were 
 working on this problem.
 Any suggestions?
 TIA.
 
 Dan
 
 On Sep 17, 2011, at 7:08 AM, Paul Erkens wrote:
 
 Hi Ioana, and Teresa,
 Because of a message by Ricardo Walker,I now know I forgot to mention a 
 simpler option. If lion is already installed Iona, you could also reinstall 
 a clean lion from the recovery partition. When lion installs, not only will 
 it simply install into macintosh hd, but a separate, hidden partition will 
 also be created by the lion installer. If you already have lion, no matter 
 if it was installed by the previous mac owner, the recovery partition will 
 be there. Shut down the mac, start it, and during the chime sound, hit, and 
 keep holding, command r. These 2 keys will boot the mac from its lion 
 recovery partition. After some ten seconds you can be sure the recovery 
 partition is booting and you can let go of command r. After 2 minutes or so 
 it will be booted. Probably less, but after you give it some time, hit 
 command f5 to turn voiceover on. Fred will help you from there.
 Hth,
 Paul.
 On Sep 17, 2011, at 6:14 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
 
 Hi, Ioana,
 
 Once the OS is installed, the installer package deletes itself. You could 
 try looking in the applications folder for it on the off-chance it was 
 replaced ther by the previous owner, but it's unlikely to be there. Sorry.
 
 Teresa
 On Sep 16, 2011, at 3:28 PM, Ioana Gandrabur wrote:
 
 Hi Paul and list,Given that the previous owner downloaded the file, would 
 he not have an instaler somewhere on the mac?
 Regardless, I did sign out of his account in the app store and signed in 
 with mine (I already had one for my iPhone) and searched for lion. 
 unfortunately I could not buy it since it showed a dimmed installed 
 button. 
 I have the sno leopard dvd that came with the mac and I suppose I could 
 erase the drive and install from that and upgrade.
 Any better way you can think of?
 
 assuming I have to do what I outlined above, how do I start? Have to 
 erase first and start the install from dvd?
 
 Thanks so much!
 
 A very excited newbie.
 
 
 (Sent from my phone)
 
 Please check out my new CD at www.ioanagandrabur.com or on itunes.
 
 On Sep 16, 2011, at 2:54 PM, Paul Erkens paul.erk...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Iona,
 I don't think you need the apple id of the previous owner. However, you 
 do need to get hold of the lion installer app. Which is over 3 
 gigabytes. Normally, you download this from the app store. Do you have 
 an apple ID of your own yet? If you do, when asked for your apple ID, 
 you can fill in your own, so that lion can be payed for, using your own 
 apple  ID. If you don't have one yet, you can create one in each dialog 
 where you are asked for it. You can then put money on to that apple 
 account using either itunes gift cards, attaching your credit card to 
 it, or you can put money on the apple ID by using services like click 
 and buy.
 
 Once you have the lion app from the app store, there is a way to burn 
 that onto a dvd. Alternatively, you can put the installer on a usb 
 stick. Either way, you then boot from cd or usb stick, install lion, all 
 with speech support along your way, then perform software updates, and 
 then start to use it by installing apps and putting your own data on it.
 But now that you still have a mac with someone else's installation, the 
 first thing to do is get hold of the lion installer app. For that, you 
 need an apple account or apple ID. Then you must make sure that you can 
 do purchases with it, and then you can download the lion installer from 
 app store. Let's start with that. If you have questions along the way, 
 just ask. When you have the installer, say so and we can try to help 
 further.
 Hth,
 Paul.
 On Sep 16, 2011

Re: reinstalling lion

2011-09-17 Thread Paul Erkens
Iona,
If you use disk utility, which is a choice when you boot up with command r and 
Fred, then yes. You can erase your drive. Afterwards, because it is erased, you 
will start from scratch. By the way, you can also change your language for the 
time being, that you have not reinstalled Lion yet. If you need help with a 
specific subject let us know.
Hth,
Paul.
On Sep 17, 2011, at 5:24 PM, Ioana Gandrabur wrote:

 Hi,
 
 Thanks for this.
 Will it let me eerase the disk first during the re-install? Also, do you know 
 f it is toosmart for its own good and remembers old user settnngs or can I 
 set everything from scratch? I want to set os language and other such things.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Ioana
 
 (Sent from my phone)
 
 Please check out my new CD at www.ioanagandrabur.com or on itunes.
 
 On Sep 17, 2011, at 10:08 AM, Paul Erkens paul.erk...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Ioana, and Teresa,
 Because of a message by Ricardo Walker,I now know I forgot to mention a 
 simpler option. If lion is already installed Iona, you could also reinstall 
 a clean lion from the recovery partition. When lion installs, not only will 
 it simply install into macintosh hd, but a separate, hidden partition will 
 also be created by the lion installer. If you already have lion, no matter 
 if it was installed by the previous mac owner, the recovery partition will 
 be there. Shut down the mac, start it, and during the chime sound, hit, and 
 keep holding, command r. These 2 keys will boot the mac from its lion 
 recovery partition. After some ten seconds you can be sure the recovery 
 partition is booting and you can let go of command r. After 2 minutes or so 
 it will be booted. Probably less, but after you give it some time, hit 
 command f5 to turn voiceover on. Fred will help you from there.
 Hth,
 Paul.
 On Sep 17, 2011, at 6:14 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
 
 Hi, Ioana,
 
 Once the OS is installed, the installer package deletes itself. You could 
 try looking in the applications folder for it on the off-chance it was 
 replaced ther by the previous owner, but it's unlikely to be there. Sorry.
 
 Teresa
 On Sep 16, 2011, at 3:28 PM, Ioana Gandrabur wrote:
 
 Hi Paul and list,Given that the previous owner downloaded the file, would 
 he not have an instaler somewhere on the mac?
 Regardless, I did sign out of his account in the app store and signed in 
 with mine (I already had one for my iPhone) and searched for lion. 
 unfortunately I could not buy it since it showed a dimmed installed 
 button. 
 I have the sno leopard dvd that came with the mac and I suppose I could 
 erase the drive and install from that and upgrade.
 Any better way you can think of?
 
 assuming I have to do what I outlined above, how do I start? Have to erase 
 first and start the install from dvd?
 
 Thanks so much!
 
 A very excited newbie.
 
 
 (Sent from my phone)
 
 Please check out my new CD at www.ioanagandrabur.com or on itunes.
 
 On Sep 16, 2011, at 2:54 PM, Paul Erkens paul.erk...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Iona,
 I don't think you need the apple id of the previous owner. However, you 
 do need to get hold of the lion installer app. Which is over 3 gigabytes. 
 Normally, you download this from the app store. Do you have an apple ID 
 of your own yet? If you do, when asked for your apple ID, you can fill in 
 your own, so that lion can be payed for, using your own apple  ID. If you 
 don't have one yet, you can create one in each dialog where you are asked 
 for it. You can then put money on to that apple account using either 
 itunes gift cards, attaching your credit card to it, or you can put money 
 on the apple ID by using services like click and buy.
 
 Once you have the lion app from the app store, there is a way to burn 
 that onto a dvd. Alternatively, you can put the installer on a usb stick. 
 Either way, you then boot from cd or usb stick, install lion, all with 
 speech support along your way, then perform software updates, and then 
 start to use it by installing apps and putting your own data on it.
 But now that you still have a mac with someone else's installation, the 
 first thing to do is get hold of the lion installer app. For that, you 
 need an apple account or apple ID. Then you must make sure that you can 
 do purchases with it, and then you can download the lion installer from 
 app store. Let's start with that. If you have questions along the way, 
 just ask. When you have the installer, say so and we can try to help 
 further.
 Hth,
 Paul.
 On Sep 16, 2011, at 6:59 PM, Ioana Gandrabur wrote:
 
 Greetings,
 
 As I mentioned in previous posts, I have a 2nd hand mac mini with lion 
 installed that I would like to reset from beginning to change operating 
 system language and other settings.
 
 During install, do I require the Apple ID and password of previous owner 
 and purchaser of lion? 
 Could you recommend a guide of re--installing lion?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Ioana
 
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2011-09-16 Thread Ioana Gandrabur
Greetings,

As I mentioned in previous posts, I have a 2nd hand mac mini with lion 
installed that I would like to reset from beginning to change operating system 
language and other settings.

During install, do I require the Apple ID and password of previous owner and 
purchaser of lion? 
Could you recommend a guide of re--installing lion?

Thanks,

Ioana

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Re: reinstalling lion

2011-09-16 Thread Paul Erkens
Hi Iona,
I don't think you need the apple id of the previous owner. However, you do need 
to get hold of the lion installer app. Which is over 3 gigabytes. Normally, you 
download this from the app store. Do you have an apple ID of your own yet? If 
you do, when asked for your apple ID, you can fill in your own, so that lion 
can be payed for, using your own apple  ID. If you don't have one yet, you can 
create one in each dialog where you are asked for it. You can then put money on 
to that apple account using either itunes gift cards, attaching your credit 
card to it, or you can put money on the apple ID by using services like click 
and buy.

Once you have the lion app from the app store, there is a way to burn that onto 
a dvd. Alternatively, you can put the installer on a usb stick. Either way, you 
then boot from cd or usb stick, install lion, all with speech support along 
your way, then perform software updates, and then start to use it by installing 
apps and putting your own data on it.
But now that you still have a mac with someone else's installation, the first 
thing to do is get hold of the lion installer app. For that, you need an apple 
account or apple ID. Then you must make sure that you can do purchases with it, 
and then you can download the lion installer from app store. Let's start with 
that. If you have questions along the way, just ask. When you have the 
installer, say so and we can try to help further.
Hth,
Paul.
On Sep 16, 2011, at 6:59 PM, Ioana Gandrabur wrote:

 Greetings,
 
 As I mentioned in previous posts, I have a 2nd hand mac mini with lion 
 installed that I would like to reset from beginning to change operating 
 system language and other settings.
 
 During install, do I require the Apple ID and password of previous owner and 
 purchaser of lion? 
 Could you recommend a guide of re--installing lion?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Ioana
 
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Re: reinstalling lion

2011-09-16 Thread Ioana Gandrabur
Hi Paul and list,Given that the previous owner downloaded the file, would he 
not have an instaler somewhere on the mac?
Regardless, I did sign out of his account in the app store and signed in with 
mine (I already had one for my iPhone) and searched for lion. unfortunately I 
could not buy it since it showed a dimmed installed button. 
I have the sno leopard dvd that came with the mac and I suppose I could erase 
the drive and install from that and upgrade.
Any better way you can think of?

assuming I have to do what I outlined above, how do I start? Have to erase 
first and start the install from dvd?

Thanks so much!

A very excited newbie.


(Sent from my phone)

Please check out my new CD at www.ioanagandrabur.com or on itunes.

On Sep 16, 2011, at 2:54 PM, Paul Erkens paul.erk...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Iona,
 I don't think you need the apple id of the previous owner. However, you do 
 need to get hold of the lion installer app. Which is over 3 gigabytes. 
 Normally, you download this from the app store. Do you have an apple ID of 
 your own yet? If you do, when asked for your apple ID, you can fill in your 
 own, so that lion can be payed for, using your own apple  ID. If you don't 
 have one yet, you can create one in each dialog where you are asked for it. 
 You can then put money on to that apple account using either itunes gift 
 cards, attaching your credit card to it, or you can put money on the apple ID 
 by using services like click and buy.
 
 Once you have the lion app from the app store, there is a way to burn that 
 onto a dvd. Alternatively, you can put the installer on a usb stick. Either 
 way, you then boot from cd or usb stick, install lion, all with speech 
 support along your way, then perform software updates, and then start to use 
 it by installing apps and putting your own data on it.
 But now that you still have a mac with someone else's installation, the first 
 thing to do is get hold of the lion installer app. For that, you need an 
 apple account or apple ID. Then you must make sure that you can do purchases 
 with it, and then you can download the lion installer from app store. Let's 
 start with that. If you have questions along the way, just ask. When you have 
 the installer, say so and we can try to help further.
 Hth,
 Paul.
 On Sep 16, 2011, at 6:59 PM, Ioana Gandrabur wrote:
 
 Greetings,
 
 As I mentioned in previous posts, I have a 2nd hand mac mini with lion 
 installed that I would like to reset from beginning to change operating 
 system language and other settings.
 
 During install, do I require the Apple ID and password of previous owner and 
 purchaser of lion? 
 Could you recommend a guide of re--installing lion?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Ioana
 
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Re: reinstalling lion

2011-09-16 Thread Teresa Cochran
Hi, Ioana,

Once the OS is installed, the installer package deletes itself. You could try 
looking in the applications folder for it on the off-chance it was replaced 
ther by the previous owner, but it's unlikely to be there. Sorry.

Teresa
On Sep 16, 2011, at 3:28 PM, Ioana Gandrabur wrote:

 Hi Paul and list,Given that the previous owner downloaded the file, would he 
 not have an instaler somewhere on the mac?
 Regardless, I did sign out of his account in the app store and signed in with 
 mine (I already had one for my iPhone) and searched for lion. unfortunately I 
 could not buy it since it showed a dimmed installed button. 
 I have the sno leopard dvd that came with the mac and I suppose I could erase 
 the drive and install from that and upgrade.
 Any better way you can think of?
 
 assuming I have to do what I outlined above, how do I start? Have to erase 
 first and start the install from dvd?
 
 Thanks so much!
 
 A very excited newbie.
 
 
 (Sent from my phone)
 
 Please check out my new CD at www.ioanagandrabur.com or on itunes.
 
 On Sep 16, 2011, at 2:54 PM, Paul Erkens paul.erk...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Iona,
 I don't think you need the apple id of the previous owner. However, you do 
 need to get hold of the lion installer app. Which is over 3 gigabytes. 
 Normally, you download this from the app store. Do you have an apple ID of 
 your own yet? If you do, when asked for your apple ID, you can fill in your 
 own, so that lion can be payed for, using your own apple  ID. If you don't 
 have one yet, you can create one in each dialog where you are asked for it. 
 You can then put money on to that apple account using either itunes gift 
 cards, attaching your credit card to it, or you can put money on the apple 
 ID by using services like click and buy.
 
 Once you have the lion app from the app store, there is a way to burn that 
 onto a dvd. Alternatively, you can put the installer on a usb stick. Either 
 way, you then boot from cd or usb stick, install lion, all with speech 
 support along your way, then perform software updates, and then start to use 
 it by installing apps and putting your own data on it.
 But now that you still have a mac with someone else's installation, the 
 first thing to do is get hold of the lion installer app. For that, you need 
 an apple account or apple ID. Then you must make sure that you can do 
 purchases with it, and then you can download the lion installer from app 
 store. Let's start with that. If you have questions along the way, just ask. 
 When you have the installer, say so and we can try to help further.
 Hth,
 Paul.
 On Sep 16, 2011, at 6:59 PM, Ioana Gandrabur wrote:
 
 Greetings,
 
 As I mentioned in previous posts, I have a 2nd hand mac mini with lion 
 installed that I would like to reset from beginning to change operating 
 system language and other settings.
 
 During install, do I require the Apple ID and password of previous owner 
 and purchaser of lion? 
 Could you recommend a guide of re--installing lion?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Ioana
 
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