Re: x11vnc no response to taps on left of screen

2007-04-08 Thread Visti Andresen
On Sat, 7 Apr 2007 21:29:49 -0600
Jeffrey Barish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Saturday 07 April 2007 20:20:46 Acadia Secure Networks wrote:
  Jeffrey,
 
  are you certain that the VNC problem you are experiencing is causing the
  802.11 to be dropped? 
 
 My theory was that the N800 drops the WiFi connection when the screen blanks, 
 and I know that the screen blanks when the N800 does not detect any user 
 events.

At least on my N770 I have the possibility to use the Connection 
manager-Tools-Connectivity settings
This window has an Idle times tab, I have set WLAN idle time to Unlimited.
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Re: IT2007 Hacker Edition - First impression

2007-04-08 Thread Krischan Keitsch
Am Sonntag, 8. April 2007 schrieb Álvaro J. Iradier:
 Hi, after following the thread about no bug fixing in Nokia 770, I
 decided to download and try it2007 hacker edition[1]. I think it's
 worth trying, and I hope development is not discontinued, it looks
 quite promising.

...

 Can other people that are using IT2007 hacker edition share their
 comments and impressions?

 Greets.

 [1] http://os2007on770.garage.maemo.org/

Hi

thank you for sharing your impressions with us. I am also interested in 
installing the hacker edition on my 770 since we obviously can not expect any 
further development (official firmware upgrades) from Nokia for the 770.

I am wondering if or when will there be a hacker edition based on Bora 3.1 /  
RX-34_2007SE_3.2007.10-7_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin (latest firmware for n800)?

Or is it possible to upgrade the hacker edition via apt-get? Has anyone tried 
to merge the hacker edition with the latest n800 firmware?

Best regards 
Krischan

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Re: Failing to connect with flasher

2007-04-08 Thread Marius Gedminas
On Sat, Apr 07, 2007 at 01:35:21PM -0600, Jeffrey Barish wrote:
 I am trying to connect to my N800 with flasher.  It freezes with
 
 Suitable USB device not found, waiting
 
...
 
 I am on Kubuntu 6.10 using flasher 0.8.7.  Does anyone have a suggestion?

You need flasher 3.0 for the N800.  You can get it at the usual place at
maemo.org.

Marius Gedminas
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Re: Installing SSH

2007-04-08 Thread Marius Gedminas
On Sat, Apr 07, 2007 at 04:33:51PM -0600, Jeffrey Barish wrote:
 In InstallSsh (https://maemo.org/maemowiki/InstallSsh), I am directed to
 store the public key in ~/.ssh/authorized_keys-file.  Then it says, To get
 the public key-file to the Nokia 770 [800, in my case], use USB, bluetooth,
 mail   I am missing something basic here.  When I connect the N800 to
 my Kubuntu 6.10 machine, it gets mounted under /media and two icons appear
 on the desktop.  (Why two?  One is labeled usbdisk and looks like a USB
 key, the other usbdisk-1 and looks like a folder.  I see the same contents
 whichever I open.)

That's very strange.  I'd understand if you had two SD cards in there,
you'd see both as separate devices..

 I presume that I can copy the authorized_keys-file to
 the folder to get it to the N800, but then how do I get it into the ~/.ssh
 directory?

xterm.

 I can create a new folder in the Konqueror window I get when I
 click on either icon, but if I call it .ssh, will it be ~/.ssh?

No, your home directory is not accessible over USB.

 In other
 words, where am I when I open /media/usbdisk?  I was hoping to find a
 console on the N800 in which I could type Unix commands, but there doesn't
 seem to be one.

There will be if you install xterm.

Or you can ssh with a password and copy the authorized_keys in place
within the ssh session.

Marius Gedminas
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system and repeat the process
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Re: x11vnc no response to taps on left of screen

2007-04-08 Thread Marius Gedminas
On Sat, Apr 07, 2007 at 05:27:20PM -0600, Jeffrey Barish wrote:
 Well, I finally got something to work.  I was getting pretty discouraged.  I
 installed x11vnc and connected to it with Krdc.

Where did you get x11vnc for the N800?  Or are you using the 770
version?

 I get a nice display of
 the N800 desktop and I can tap on most things and get an appropriate
 response.  However, when I tap on items on the left side of the screen (in
 the task navigation area) such as the globe, nothing happens.

I don't know why.

 Also, the
 N800 has an annoying habit of dropping the WiFi connection because it is
 not detecting any taps on the screen.

I can see how that would be annoying.  I've experienced that with ssh
sessions to the 770: a short while after it blanks its screen the ssh
session freezes until I tap to wake the tablet up.

 I wonder whether connecting with
 usbnet would be a good way to avoid the latter problem.

I doubt it.

Marius Gedminas
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Re: Installing SSH

2007-04-08 Thread Larry Battraw

 Hi Jeff, I'm guessing from the steps you're trying to take that you
want to use SSH to access your n800.  Now adding your public key from
your Ubuntu system to the ~/.ssh/authorized_keys file is only
necessary if you don't want your n800 to ask you for a password when
logging in.  If you're trying to log in for the first time as root
(ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] where x.x.x.x is your n800's IP)  and it keeps
asking you for a password (which you don't know ahead of time) it's
rootme for the root account.  No idea what it is by default for the
user account.  Once you can log in as root you should immediately
change the password on the n800 via the passwd command.

 If you'd still like to skip the password prompt when logging in from
a specific system that's when the authorized_keys file comes into
play.  First, verify you have a ~/.ssh/id_dsa.pub file on your Ubuntu
system; if not, run the command ssh-keygen -t dsa.  Now copy the
~/.ssh/id_dsa.pub file from your Ubuntu system to your n800 into /tmp
(scp ~/id_dsa.pub [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/tmp).  Once you log in then type cat
/tmp/id_dsa.pub  ~/.ssh/authorized_keys.

 The above directions assume you'd like to log in as root all the
time; perhaps not the best idea.   To be able to log in as the user
account just type cat /tmp/id_dsa.pub  ~user/.ssh/authorized_keys.
Thereafter you'll be able to log in as the user account via ssh
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Larry

On 4/7/07, Jeffrey Barish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

In InstallSsh (https://maemo.org/maemowiki/InstallSsh), I am directed to
store the public key in ~/.ssh/authorized_keys-file.  Then it says, To get
the public key-file to the Nokia 770 [800, in my case], use USB, bluetooth,
mail   I am missing something basic here.  When I connect the N800 to
my Kubuntu 6.10 machine, it gets mounted under /media and two icons appear
on the desktop.  (Why two?  One is labeled usbdisk and looks like a USB
key, the other usbdisk-1 and looks like a folder.  I see the same contents
whichever I open.)  I presume that I can copy the authorized_keys-file to
the folder to get it to the N800, but then how do I get it into the ~/.ssh
directory?  I can create a new folder in the Konqueror window I get when I
click on either icon, but if I call it .ssh, will it be ~/.ssh?  In other
words, where am I when I open /media/usbdisk?  I was hoping to find a
console on the N800 in which I could type Unix commands, but there doesn't
seem to be one.
--
Jeffrey Barish

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Re: Detecting Maemo release version, at runtime and using scripts

2007-04-08 Thread Scott Prive

Thanks Marius!

On 4/7/07, Marius Gedminas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On Fri, Apr 06, 2007 at 04:46:36PM -0400, Scott Prive wrote:
 I have a shell-based application which I want to support on Maemo. A
small
 feature of my application is to detect the OS/platform it is running on.

 To get this information on other Linux, I invoke `lsb_release` (Sadly,
this
 command does not exist in the Internet Tablet OS 2007..). Fallback
detection
 is normally accomplished using `cat /etc/*release` in older Linux/UNIX.

 For the moment, I have a very frail workaround:
 grep Nokia /etc/hostname
 followed by a test on $?

 Is there a Maemo-specific solution to detecting the platform during
script
 execution?

$ cat /etc/osso_software_version
RX-34_2007SE_3.2007.10-7_PR_MR0

Marius Gedminas
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Moving windows in Maemo

2007-04-08 Thread Sean Luke
I'm wondering if anyone has had previous experience in moving windows  
in maemo.  I'm experimenting with various things which involve small  
movable or resizable windows.  Yeah, yeah, I know that Nokia's UI  
guidelines foolishly declare that you can't move any windows, and  
that all drag-and-drop must stop at the app windows' edge.


Anyway, I whipped up the following little program below as a test and  
low and behold I can get the window to drag around BUT it creates all  
sorts of artifacts: screen tearing, a bizarre window flashing in the  
top-left corner, and slow updates.  The window moves very slowly  
too.  Not what I would have expected for a 300MHz machine.  There are  
three possibilities:


- I'm doing window moves all wrong.  The most likely case: in which  
case, how do I do it right?
- This bug was never caught by Nokia because it's a use case they  
didn't expect due to their UI guidelines.
- [conspiracy theorist alert :-)] Nokia specified the UI guidelines  
the way they did in order to avoid fixing this bug.  :-)


I strongly suspect the first.  Anyone tried to do this before?  No  
doubt I'm screwing something up.  I'm running on an N800, not  
upgraded yet.


Sean


import gtk

# We create a Dialog because maemo has hard-locked gtk.Window to be  
the full
# size of the screen, and I've found now way to counteract that.  We  
then

# delete the separator and make the window bright blue.
g = gtk.Dialog()
g.set_has_separator(False)
g.set_decorated(False)
g.modify_bg(gtk.STATE_NORMAL, gtk.gdk.Color(0,0,65535))
g.resize(100,100)
g.move(300,300)

# We add a button to the Dialog and try to move after the Button has
# been pushed because if you set Dialog's mask to include  
BUTTON_PRESSED,
# no BUTTON_PRESSED event actually gets through -- instead,  
MOTION_NOTIFY

# starts coming in incorrectly.  Looks like another bug.  So we have to
# use a Button to grab the BUTTON_PRESSED events...
b = gtk.Button()
g.vbox.add(b)

# I'm using begin_move_drag here, but if I implement it myself with  
move(...),

# the same exact buggy artifacts occur.
b.connect(button_press_event, lambda widget, event:
g.window.begin_move_drag(event.button,
event.x + g.window.get_root_origin()[0],
event.y + g.window.get_root_origin()[1], event.time))
g.show_all()
gtk.main()

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Re: x11vnc no response to taps on left of screen

2007-04-08 Thread Kees Jongenburger

If x11vnc worked 100%, it would be VERY useful. For example, my LInux
desktop machine can save VNC sessions to a file, and convert them to AVI,
which is much more powerful for end users than simple screenshots. I'm
looking forward to a solution for this also.

I have played with this I was using the mud x11vnc  found here
http://box.mmapps.net/~keesj/mud/repository_it2007/x11vnc_0.8.4-1_armel.deb
. The only problem I had was that I had to start the program again
after each connect .
The only real problem is that the framerate was very slow :(
perhaps vnc2swf must also run on the n800 (there is an old c based
version somewhere)

greetings
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x11vnc no response to taps on left of screen

2007-04-08 Thread Mike Cowlishaw
 Message: 16
 Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2007 17:27:20 -0600
 From: Jeffrey Barish [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: x11vnc no response to taps on left of screen
 To: maemo-developers@maemo.org
 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
 
 Well, I finally got something to work.  I was getting pretty discouraged.
 I installed x11vnc and connected to it with Krdc.  I get a nice display of
 the N800 desktop and I can tap on most things and get an appropriate
 response.  

Ditto -- this looks like an excellent way of getting screenshots of the
N800, also for live demos using a projector attached to laptop.

 However, when I tap on items on the left side of the screen (in
 the task navigation area) such as the globe, nothing happens.  

I have exactly the same problem, also others (notably the Enter key brings
up the thumb keyboard).

 Also, the
 N800 has an annoying habit of dropping the WiFi connection because it is
 not detecting any taps on the screen.  

Yes, this seems to be when the N800 switches to standby.  It would be nice
in x11vnc restarted automatically...

But the big problem is the 'dead' area of the screen ...

[I also tried two VNC clients, so I don't think the problem is in the
client(s).]

mfc


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Re: UAE Amiga emulator running on Nokia 770

2007-04-08 Thread Visti Andresen
On Thu, 5 Apr 2007 03:57:25 -0700 (PDT)
Arnim Sauerbier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi Group,
 
 I just cross-compiled the UAE Amiga emulator to the Nokia 770.  
 
 Getting about 10fps in Arkanoid. It's much prettier than the Atari ST version.
  
 The config menu kinda almost works. Keyboard works. Mouse works, but absolute 
 positioning with
 touchscreen not so much. Sound still not working.
  
 Here's a temp. link to the binary for 770 / it2006.
  
 http://ln-s.net/NgM
  

--- SNIP ---
Nice indeed :)

I have just installed Workbench to a hard disk file, it works fine on your 
version of UAE :)

I had some problems starting the emulator using the GUI, so I disabled it in 
the uaerc resource file.

Quite challenging to perform a right click using the stylus...
Keyboard entry isn't that easy using no virtual keyboard either.

Luckily there is a port of synergy2 available for the 770


btw. Stuntcar Racer also seems to work (also requires synergy2 (for inputting 
your name))
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Re: H/W 3D on the N800

2007-04-08 Thread Klaus Rotter

Paul Klapperich wrote:
[Video bandwidth and internal vs. external framebuffer]
I'm pretty sure this is why we haven't seen an OpenGL stack yet, and why 
we probably won't see one any time soon.


But the solution for the external framebuffer could also belong to 3D. 
One could render the 3d image to the internal framebuffer and transfer 
it via dma to the external one (which run in pixel doubling mode to 
provide full fps in 320x240 or in full resolution, than fps is limited 
to 15 fps.)


-Klaus

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remove dublicate follow ups in garage.maemo.org?

2007-04-08 Thread Detlef Schmicker
Is there a way, to remove follow ups (dublicates) in the bug reports on
garage.maemo.org (as admin)?

I could not find,

Detlef



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Re: Moving windows in Maemo

2007-04-08 Thread Matthew Allum

Hi;

On 4/8/07, Sean Luke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Anyway, I whipped up the following little program below as a test and
low and behold I can get the window to drag around BUT it creates all
sorts of artifacts: screen tearing, a bizarre window flashing in the
top-left corner, and slow updates.


The flashing in top-left corner is a matchbox bug affecting moving
decoration-less dialogs. It was fixed a little while ago in matchbox
svn (2007-02-17 in ChangeLog) but I guess thats maybe a little later
than whats on the device.

In terms of the screen tearing and slow updates Id guess thats
probably an issue with moving the window a little too fast for what
the h/w can handle  (the screen tearing suggests you are moving them
very fast).

 -- Matthew
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