maemo wiki survey
Dear maemo contributors, can you please answer these questions? - What do you think about the current wiki tool at http://maemo.org/community/wiki (leaving content aside) ? - Are you using it? Did you use the previous one? - Are you thinking of using the community wiki? - Mention good things / bad things of the current wiki (and what would you do). Thank you. -- Quim Gil - http://maemo.org ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: maemo wiki survey
Hello Quim, i use the wiki ( the last to ). In my opinion a wiki is a good place to start, walk around and get a feeling whats going on. For a new owner (just bought the device) the best place to start. It does not matter what i am looking for. From the wiki i can go to every section of the side without knowledge about the structure or the to which section belongs what i am looking for. If i am looking for additional software i could go to download a play with search terms or categories or i use the wiki to get a list of all stuff which is available. The wiki is like a table of content een a good place to start. br Mathias 2007/7/5, Quim Gil [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Dear maemo contributors, can you please answer these questions? - What do you think about the current wiki tool at http://maemo.org/community/wiki (leaving content aside) ? - Are you using it? Did you use the previous one? - Are you thinking of using the community wiki? - Mention good things / bad things of the current wiki (and what would you do). Thank you. -- Quim Gil - http://maemo.org ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: maemo wiki survey
- What do you think about the current wiki tool at http://maemo.org/community/wiki (leaving content aside) ? Wiki is always good =) - Are you using it? Did you use the previous one? For sure. - Are you thinking of using the community wiki? What do you mean with community wiki ? - Mention good things / bad things of the current wiki (and what would you do). The only bad stuff there are the old content...otherwise it's a great start for beginners! Thank you. -- Quim Gil - http://maemo.org ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers -- --- Blog: http://labs.morpheuz.eng.br/blog/ PGP: 0xDBEEAAC3 @ wwwkeys.pgp.net ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: maemo wiki survey
On 7/5/07, Quim Gil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear maemo contributors, can you please answer these questions? - What do you think about the current wiki tool at http://maemo.org/community/wiki (leaving content aside) ? -The cms documentation is very poor(formating rules etc) --how to create a toc etc https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1590 -When not editing in wysiwyg mode not preview button is visible https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1408 -when committing everybody can see that I am watching page changes -No maemo wiki specific search https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1381 - Are you using it? Did you use the previous one? yes I am using the current one it contains a few perls yes, the old one with the application pages was a must - Are you thinking of using the community wiki? - Mention good things / bad things of the current wiki (and what would you do). I would like a world view / site map arranged on topic of booth wiki and non wiki content so that if I find that page I know I don't have to look in other parts of the website -kernel --Official docs --Wiki --Download I guess that it is the main wiki page that needs cleanup greetings ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
RE: Wish list request for DSP EAP_* function header/information
Hi Quim, I notice that my request hasn't been added to the wish list. I thought my bugzilla entry and email would convey enough information to make this a valid request. Do I need to do more? I'm not sure of the usual timeline from request to wish list addition and if I'm simply being impatient then please tell me so. So, does the lack of a reply/entry in the wish list mean that: A) no-one's had time to add it yet, but the data will be available; B) It's not possible to release the requested information; C) It's still being looked into it; D) No-one's started looking at this yet. Thanks, Simon -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Simon Pickering Sent: 27 June 2007 11:54 To: maemo-developers@maemo.org Subject: Wish list request for DSP EAP_* function header/information Hello all, I've added this as a bug as it says on the Roadmap/wish list page (BUG #1592). I'd like to add to the wish list my wish for a header file listing the EAP_* (and any other) functions which wrap the audio codec driver and are contained in the avs_kernel.out (DSP kernel). It would also be nice to have either some example code or some explanation of each function, though not essential. This would allow us to write code to use the audio output (input?) capabilities of the N800 (and probably 770) and allow people to hack at writing more dsp sinks for various music/sound formats (e.g. OGG, DTMF, G.729, etc.) Thanks, Simon ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: maemo wiki survey
Hi An all recent changes page will be usefull. Like this : http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Site/AllRecentChanges and a RSS feed of all recent changes. David. Quim Gil wrote: Dear maemo contributors, can you please answer these questions? - What do you think about the current wiki tool at http://maemo.org/community/wiki (leaving content aside) ? - Are you using it? Did you use the previous one? - Are you thinking of using the community wiki? - Mention good things / bad things of the current wiki (and what would you do). Thank you. -- http://david.hautbois.free.fr http://slugplayer.free.fr ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: maemo wiki survey
On Thu, 2007-07-05 at 05:51 -0300, ext MoRpHeUz wrote: What do you mean with community wiki ? The question means if you have plans to user http://maemo.org/community/wiki/ in the future. Sorry if it was not clear. Another term that perhaps was not clear enough is use. When we ask if you are/were using the wiki we mean not only browsing pages but creating/editing content. Using the own tools of the wiki. This wiki is basically for you. We look for your feedback in order to plan better the next steps improving it. -- Quim Gil - http://maemo.org ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: maemo wiki survey
Quim Gil wrote: Dear maemo contributors, can you please answer these questions? - What do you think about the current wiki tool at http://maemo.org/community/wiki (leaving content aside) ? http://lists.maemo.org/pipermail//maemo-users/2007-June/005538.html - Are you using it? Did you use the previous one? I am using it far less then previous one both for reading and editing. - Mention good things / bad things of the current wiki (and what would you do). I understand the need for better CMS system for whole site but still feature-wise the new wiki is IMO big step back from old one in all aspects. Please add recent changes for whole wiki and also wiki search. Both features are invaluable for examining wiki content. Without those two features I am completely lost. Now the only way how to examine the wiki is the worst one - traversing links from front page. Yuck! This is not ideal for wiki at all due to its chaotic nature and notoriously bad structure. Please add anonymous editing. There was discussion about this in the list, I think at that time there was general consensus that anonymous editing is quite important and then you took this feature away. http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/maemo/developers/11259#11259 Please make wiki easier to edit (less steps, less fancy stuff). The old way with preview and textbox on same page was easy, fast and was even usable from the device itself. Frantisek ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Howto: Installing Maemo SDK for Nokia 770
Hi all! Since the howto on maemo.org is very confused and contains a lot of errors, I've written a simple howto that explain how to install the maemo SDK 2.2 for N770. You can find it here: http://www.ptlug.org/wiki/Howto_Installing_Maemo_SDK_for_Nokia_770 Please let me know if there are any errors. Thanks! -- Andrea Grandi email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] website: http://www.ptlug.org ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: javascript perf on the n770 and n800
Sean, here is what I got: Nokia N800 - Standard Nokia provided Browser Try/Catch with errors 415 Layer movement 1895 Random number engine 2593 Math engine4655 DOM speed 6626 Array functions1312 String functions 1475 Ajax declaration 1274 Total Duration20245 ms If it is any consolation to you, I tried to run the test on the Windows Mobile 5.0 IE browser and of course it failed since that browser does not support javascript. When I then tried to run it on Minimo (v0.2) on the same device it soft-bricked the device so I had to do a hard reset of Windows Mobile 5.0. Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sean Jensen-Grey wrote: I was wondering what the js perf is on the n770 and n800? LowTideGames just wrote a game for the iPhone using a fair bit of javascript and the canvas tag. But JS perf is so horribly slow that it does not run. Initially we thought it was a poorly implemented canvas tag, this is not the case. Canvas tag runs fine. It is javascript itself that is slow on the iPhone. It appears that a NOP function takes about 70 microseconds. In our tests, 1000 executions of a function which does nothing took 74 milliseconds on the iPhone. There is a thread over on ajaxian about js perf on the iphone, and links to, http://celtickane.com/projects/jsspeed.php iphone results, http://ajaxian.com/archives/iphone-javascript-and-spec-benchmark Could someone run the above benchmark (jsspeed) on an N770 and N800 and reply to this message? We would like to to an idea of how much js compute power is available on embedded internet devices. Esp Opera 9 embedded vs, iPhone Safari. We also have a benchmark that measures the speed of the canvas tag. http://lowtidegames.com/test/shapesonly.html Note: This script posts the results of the test back to our server so we could record the results from the iPhone. jsspeed on a macbookpro, various browers, all times in milliseconds firefox 2.0.0.4 Try/Catch with errors 52 Layer movement 148 Random number engine126 Math engine 209 DOM speed 160 Array functions 70 String functions196 Ajax declaration46 Total Duration 1007 ms Safari 3 Try/Catch with errors 6 Layer movement 45 Random number engine37 Math engine 56 DOM speed 27 Array functions 14 String functions15 Ajax declaration10 Total Duration 210 ms Opera 9.21 Try/Catch with errors 13 Layer movement 135 Random number engine100 Math engine 124 DOM speed 59 Array functions 56 String functions62 Ajax declaration40 Total Duration 589 ms Sean ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Howto: Installing Maemo SDK for Nokia 770
Hi Andrea, thanks for this. You have probably seen the questions sent yesterday about the maemo wiki. Can you answer them or at least explain why have you created this page in that site instead of maemo.org? Your answer (and the answer of other contributors documenting maemo related stuff out of maemo.org) will help us improving the maemo wiki. Thanks! On Fri, 2007-07-06 at 01:48 +0200, ext Andrea Grandi wrote: Hi all! Since the howto on maemo.org is very confused and contains a lot of errors, I've written a simple howto that explain how to install the maemo SDK 2.2 for N770. You can find it here: http://www.ptlug.org/wiki/Howto_Installing_Maemo_SDK_for_Nokia_770 Please let me know if there are any errors. Thanks! -- Quim Gil - http://maemo.org ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
