Re: About the upcoming maemo user karma
Am Freitag, 2. November 2007 03:01 schrieb Henri Bergius: > On 11/1/07, Henri Bergius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > There will be recount every night, so once you have linked your > > garage, bugzilla, maemo.org and mailing list accounts together (mostly > > by using a consistent email address everywhere), your stats will start > > to show up nicely. > > Unfortunately the automatic recount did not fire this night. My bad, > hadn't actually installed the cron handler. > > I'll launch a manual recount a bit later today, and next night the > automatic one should happen normally. Henri, my maemo address is [EMAIL PROTECTED] I also have an bugzilla account with that address. But I reported bugs with [EMAIL PROTECTED] (not sure why any more). No I cannot change my [EMAIL PROTECTED] address to my [EMAIL PROTECTED] maemo address. Do you have any suggestion what to do? Thanks, Rainer -- Rainer Dorsch Lärchenstr. 6 D-72135 Dettenhausen 07157-734133 jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG Fingerprint: 5966 C54C 2B3C 42CC 1F4F 8F59 E3A8 C538 7519 141E Full GPG key: http://pgp.mit.edu/ ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
[OT] maemo settings website
This website shows the package versions: https://maemo.org/midcom-exec-midcom/about.php I think it is unsecure to show this. Thanks :) ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
radare 0.9 preview for maemo
Ive released a binary build of the development version of radare with debugging and There're some shots at: http://radare.nopcode.org/img/radare09arm.jpg http://radare.nopcode.org/img/radare09arm2.jpg Some new random features: - full package (rsc scripts, etc..) - rasc - shellcode commandline tool $ rasc -X -i arm.linux.binsh - dump/restore process image from/to disk - embedded minimalistic arm assembler and disassmbler (a bit buggy atm) - process system map and register label recognition - inline comments - visual mode with n770/n800 arrows support See full changelog at: http://news.nopcode.org/miau/pvc.cgi?prj=radare Take it at: http://radare.nopcode.org/get/radare-0.9-arm.tar.gz Installation: # tar xzvf radare-0.9-arm.tar.gz -C / --pancake ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Question regarding garage project pages
According to Tim Teulings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > The question is, how should I structure this in garage? Should I again > request one project and hosts all applications there (which makes things > easier for me but might have negative consequences for my karma :-), Quim, this is why karma systems are a bad idea. I'm sure that Tim was joking, but as soon as people start even thinking about how their actions affect their karma, rather than doing what makes sense, the karma system has negatively affected the project and community. Grumpy Steve. -- Steve Greenland The irony is that Bill Gates claims to be making a stable operating system and Linus Torvalds claims to be trying to take over the world. -- seen on the net ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: About the upcoming maemo user karma
On Nov 2, 2007 5:33 AM, Quim Gil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 2007-11-01 at 11:48 -0400, ext Jesse Guardiani wrote: > > Does that mean that projects hosted mostly off garage will receive > > less karma per effort? > > As said, as for today most of the flesh is put on the success in > Downloads and in this sense it doesn't matter where are your commits as > far as your app has an entry in the application catalog and is receiving > good rates. I'm trying to work out if it's a problem when your most used applications aren't actually on the tablet itself, so definitely don't appear in the Application Catalog. In this circumstance, I could move svn from my own Subversion server to garage (I *am* thinking of creating a "Media Utils" project hosting mediaserv and a renamed 770-encode), and that this would "help" my karma (amongst the other benefits it'd get, like being patch tracking etc.) Otherwise I'm "stuck" with doing what I'm doing now, which is earning karma through blog posts which get favourited - which might well be fine. > We can't create a perfect karma system and we don't even pretend to do > that. Any value can be tricked, any function can be improved and so on. Indeed. I suppose the *real* question that nobody has asked yet, is how much is the karma going to weigh in on device programmes, both current and future? Prestige and ego are fine things, but we all like cheap, shiny, new gadgets ;-) > Still people can rate your apps & news if you took care to aggregate > them to maemo.org. More can be done if we can extract data from i.e. ITt > or Ohloh.net. Let's see how all this progresses. I imagine it'd be trivally possible to extract post count from ITT - suitably weighted within the karma system for the lack of any quality metric on those posts. Cheers, Andrew -- Andrew Flegg -- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.bleb.org/ ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
porting a java based application on Nokia 770
Hello everyone, I want to know whether a java based application can be ported on Nokia 770 .I learned that Internet Tablet OS 2005 for Nokia 770 does not support java based applications.Is there a new verison of the software which can support java based applications ? Thanks & Regards Anand. ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: How to setup ad-hoc wireless network N770 <> PC Windows XP ? (pls don't delete)
Thanks Martin, thanks to everyone. I did it, finally I did TVersity streaming video/audio files mp3/avi to Nokia maemo. Tried hard to setup static IP from terminal but both Opera web browser and Media Streamer on Nokia tried to establish a new network connection, closing already established ad-hoc wireless network, connecting with local-IP network address. Finally I did it. Thanks for your kind help. It took me 48 full non-stop work hours Martin Grimme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, please note that the ifconfig commands are not to be run on the tablet, but on the PC. On Windows XP, you would instead setup an Ad-Hoc connection by using some GUI tool. The Nokia tablets support Ad-Hoc mode out of the box. You just have to select Ad-Hoc mode for the connection in the connection settings. Remember to select Ad-Hoc mode on the PC side as well. Now if the SSIDs are the same, you should get a connection. I usually use static IPs for the PC and tablet in this mode. Cheers, Martin 2007/11/2, Darius Jack < [EMAIL PROTECTED]>:Thanks Michael, if you mean ap as access point so I don't have any ap as I set up ad-hoc wireless network ap-free It already works if I assign static IP addresses both on Nokia and PC running TVersity server. Unfortunately I can't Opera web browser or Media Streamer as each one saves established ad-hoc wireless network invoking maemo network connection utility hanging maemo up , crashing and rebooting it. As I see neither Opera web browser not Media Streamer can connect to TVersity over the already established ad-hoc network. TVersity can be run locally on PC as http://localhost:41952/. So the problem is not very complicated but how can I force networked applications like Opera web browser or Media Streamer not to invoke maemo network connection utility and use the established ad-hoc wireless. I set both IP addresses as static and SMP monitor can read maemo IP address. Pls remember hardware configuration. No access point, no router. Peer-to-peer ad-hoc wireless network only. No DHCP assigned IP addresses, static IP addresses only. Any chance to have it working one day ? Thanks. Darius Michael Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Thu, 1 Nov 2007 20:02:57 + (GMT) Darius Jack wrote: > > iwconfig wlan0 essid at this point iwconfig wlan0 should report that you are associated to an ap > ifconfig wlan0 up ifconfig wlan0 ip_address Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: How to setup ad-hoc wireless network N770 <> PC Windows XP ? (pls don't delete)
Hi, please note that the ifconfig commands are not to be run on the tablet, but on the PC. On Windows XP, you would instead setup an Ad-Hoc connection by using some GUI tool. The Nokia tablets support Ad-Hoc mode out of the box. You just have to select Ad-Hoc mode for the connection in the connection settings. Remember to select Ad-Hoc mode on the PC side as well. Now if the SSIDs are the same, you should get a connection. I usually use static IPs for the PC and tablet in this mode. Cheers, Martin 2007/11/2, Darius Jack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Thanks Michael, > > if you mean ap as access point > so I don't have any ap > as I set up ad-hoc wireless network > ap-free > It already works if I assign static IP addresses both on Nokia and PC > running TVersity server. > Unfortunately I can't Opera web browser or Media Streamer as each one > saves established ad-hoc wireless network > invoking maemo network connection utility > hanging maemo up , crashing and rebooting it. > > As I see neither Opera web browser not Media Streamer can connect to > TVersity over the already established ad-hoc network. > TVersity can be run locally on PC as http://localhost:41952/. > So the problem is not very complicated but how can I force networked > applications like Opera web browser or Media Streamer not to invoke maemo > network connection utility and use the established ad-hoc wireless. > I set both IP addresses as static and SMP monitor can read maemo IP > address. > > Pls remember hardware configuration. > No access point, no router. Peer-to-peer ad-hoc wireless network only. > No DHCP assigned IP addresses, static IP addresses only. > > Any chance to have it working one day ? > > Thanks. > Darius > > > > > > *Michael Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote: > > On Thu, 1 Nov 2007 20:02:57 + (GMT) > Darius Jack wrote: > > > > > iwconfig wlan0 essid > > at this point iwconfig wlan0 should report that you are > associated to an ap > > ifconfig wlan0 up > ifconfig wlan0 ip_address > > > Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com > > ___ > maemo-developers mailing list > maemo-developers@maemo.org > https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers > > ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: About the upcoming maemo user karma (profile bug)
I reported this a few days ago here -> https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2162 so far the way to fix it is to change your info while at garage.maemo.org not the main page... cya Jason Frédéric Crozat wrote: > There seems to be a cache issue in maemo.org profile management. > > I've tried to change email I used for my maemo account to the one I > already use for bugzilla and mailing list. I did the change on > maemo.org, it looks ok in the profile. But if I check back some hours > later, change seems to have been dropped. > > ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: About the upcoming maemo user karma
Le jeudi 01 novembre 2007 à 14:57 +0200, Quim Gil a écrit : > Hi, > > We are near to implement user karma in maemo.org. Like most karma > systems, it is used as a nice add-on to promote and show off those > investing time and energies in the project. > > We are fine tuning the equation, that currently takes into account the > activity in several corners of maemo.org: > > - your applications in Downloads, the more stars they receive the more > karma you get. > > - your evaluation and comments in Downloads > > - your participation in garage projects > > - your activity in mailing lists (IMPORTANT: requires that your email > address is the same than in your maemo account) > > - your wiki pages (created only, edited would take too much resources to > scan - sorry). > > - your blog posts aggregated in planet - favs and buries affect your > karma. > > - your evaluation of posts in News There seems to be a cache issue in maemo.org profile management. I've tried to change email I used for my maemo account to the one I already use for bugzilla and mailing list. I did the change on maemo.org, it looks ok in the profile. But if I check back some hours later, change seems to have been dropped. -- Frédéric Crozat ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: About the upcoming maemo user karma
On Friday 02 November 2007, Quim Gil wrote: > On Thu, 2007-11-01 at 17:54 -0400, ext Brian Waite wrote: > > Please do not count wiki creates unless you can count edits too. Adding > > wiki creates causes some issues: > > Hum. You are right about the issues. > > Henri can provide details, but basically the problem with wiki edits is > that processing all of them takes just too much time (and resources?) > > On the other hand, if cheating by creating new wiki pages is easy, it is > not more difficult to cheat with wiki edits. It's also easy to cheat > with ranks, favs and buries. Not that difficult to cheat sending emails > to mailing lists. Even creating Garage projects. And even creating > Downloads pages about products that are just command line tools > recompiled. > > At the end all this helps only cheating yourself. If this cheating > helps you only being in the position 693 instead of 6930 you will > probably be still unnoticed karma-wise. If you are clever enough to > reach position 69 or 7 then a) your own exposure might work against you > or b) in fact you deserve that karma. ;) Ok my bad cheating should not have been #1. As we are not in a competition, it really doesn't matter, and I fear this clouded my point a bit. Premise: The Karma system is intended to give a bit of prestige to people who contirbute. Basically karma systems use ego to persue the common good, in this case more maemo content. When applied to the wiki it means that it is better* to create new pages then update another page. The worst thing you can do in a wiki is create a page that is almost like another. No one knows which is right or wrong or new or old. Wiki's tend to becomes very cluttered very quickly. I understand the huge compute power to compute karma based on edits. I also understand the desire to hang the karma carrot in front of the wiki, but I feel that wiki karma will do the opposite as its intent. I think it will begin to dilute the qualitry of the wiki. That said. It does not solve world peace so I won't waste much bandwidth. I rellay appreciae all the efforts Qim and Nokia have put into this communtity. Thanks Brian * Karma-wise and thus ego wise ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: About the upcoming maemo user karma
On 11/2/07, Mike Morrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What about applications that are not hosted in garage but are listed in the > application catalog? My program falls into this category [1]. Also, I > currently host the packages for it in my own repository (I will be moving to > the extras repository for future builds). Does that also affect the karma > calculations? Currently it is showing a zero for my product karma [2]. The problem is this: in the product page it says "Submitted by ", meaning that you're not marked as the application author in the database. I've now marked you as the author, so karma should come by tomorrow morning. If you are author of an application in the app catalog but not marked as such, go to the app page and click "edit metadata", and add yourself as the author. /Henri -- Henri Bergius Motorcycle Adventures and Free Software http://bergie.iki.fi/ Skype: henribergius Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jaiku: http://bergie.jaiku.com/ ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Quality check in Garage news
Lately we haven't been checking much the quality of the Garage news before approving them to the Garage frontpage (and the maemo.org home as well). The Social News filtering and the plan to have only the best news hitting the home gave us this flexibility. And there were not much garage news anyway, and the level was ok as an average. This is changing, though, and we are seeing more Garage news with a lower average quality. I'm talking about one sentence news, flagrant misspellings, irc-like language, total lack of context and other things that for some reason the average blog poster takes care of, even if flexibly. All this to say that we are going to be tougher now approving news even for the Garage homepage, and this will filter them to not appear in http://maemo.org/news either, so no favs, no maemo.org home (as soon as the new home is in place). If you are unhappy about this you only need to put some more love in your Garage news. We are not asking for Pulitzer articles either. ;) -- Quim Gil - http://maemo.org ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
