Re: maemo 5 on OMAP3 dev board
On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 8:14 AM, Ryan Abel wrote: > On Jan 17, 2009, at 8:13 PM, Mike Turquette wrote: > >> I'm a developer at Texas Instruments. I'm interested in building as >> many pieces of Maemo 5 (especially Hildon) as possible for some of our >> OMAP3 development boards. > > Nokia is (or was, they've likely moved on to their own hardware by > now) using Beagle Boards for internal testing, so it's certainly a > feasible thing. Some of us use beagle boards, but that's more of a personal endeavour. According to Quim Gil, Juha Kallioinen is working on an experiment precisely for this[1] [1] http://www.mail-archive.com/maemo-developers@maemo.org/msg17757.html -- Felipe Contreras ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: maemo 5 on OMAP3 dev board
On Jan 17, 2009, at 8:13 PM, Mike Turquette wrote: > I'm a developer at Texas Instruments. I'm interested in building as > many pieces of Maemo 5 (especially Hildon) as possible for some of our > OMAP3 development boards. Nokia is (or was, they've likely moved on to their own hardware by now) using Beagle Boards for internal testing, so it's certainly a feasible thing. > I'd prefer to use OpenEmbedded for building out of SVN, however a > quick glance through Nokia's repositories is a bit overwhelming. Is > there an easy guide to way out, Maemo has its own SDK, the version of which for Fremantle is currently in pre-alpha.[1][2] > 1) what software in > https://stage.maemo.org/viewcvs.cgi/projects/haf/trunk/?root=maemo is > currently maintained and will be used in Maemo 5? You want http://repository.maemo.org/pool/fremantle/ This table may also be useful, though: http://repository.maemo.org/unstable/fremantle/maemo4.1.1_vs_5.0prealpha_content_comparison.html > 2) is there a document of any kind detailing how to build a root fs > from these pieces, or is that left as an exercise ot the reader? The current release of Maemo 5 is an SDK-only release, so it's meant to be used for development on a PC. A rootfs image that might be flashed onto a real device will likely be forthcoming once a real device is available. For the time being, the pre-alpha doesn't contain all of the components that will be shipping with the final release. Most notably, it's still using the Diablo UI (the Fremantle UI will be revealed in May-ish when the Beta SDK is released). > 3) is anyone doing anything like I am mentioning (specifically with > OE)? I know there are some recipes for Maemo 4, but they are quite > deprecated (though I've gotten a fair number of them to build with > small modifications). I don't know of anybody working with OE to build Maemo. Maemo has a fairly mature and workable SDK, so I can't see anybody being very inclined to put the work into hamming another build system into submission. Probably what you really want to do is talk to the Mer guys, as their work coincides more closely with your goals, I think, than Nokia's.[3] [4] [1]http://maemo.org/development/sdks/maemo5_prealpha_main/ [2]http://maemo.org/news/announcements/first_maemo_5_sdk_release_targeting_platform_developers/ [3]http://wiki.maemo.org/Mer_Blueprint [4]http://wiki.maemo.org/Mer_Blueprint_New -- Ryan Abel Maemo Community Council chair ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
RE: SQLite3
On Sat, 17 Jan 2009, Dr. Nicholas Shaw wrote: > If 3.4.1 is part of the Maemo distribution, Iâm unaware of it. Iâve > downloaded/installed the debs @ > repository.maemo.org/pool/Diablo/free/s/sqlite3/ and sqlite3 does not run. > Nor can you run sqlite3 and have it run. This does work and so far I > havenât had any problems. Funny- this same conversation comes up every few months. The sqlite package in maemo does NOT have the command-line tools in it. I believe there's a bug open for that. I dont know if Diablo has it either - maybe someone else can correct me if Im wrong. -- Aj. ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
maemo 5 on OMAP3 dev board
Hi all, I'm a developer at Texas Instruments. I'm interested in building as many pieces of Maemo 5 (especially Hildon) as possible for some of our OMAP3 development boards. I'd prefer to use OpenEmbedded for building out of SVN, however a quick glance through Nokia's repositories is a bit overwhelming. Is there an easy guide to way out, 1) what software in https://stage.maemo.org/viewcvs.cgi/projects/haf/trunk/?root=maemo is currently maintained and will be used in Maemo 5? 2) is there a document of any kind detailing how to build a root fs from these pieces, or is that left as an exercise ot the reader? 3) is anyone doing anything like I am mentioning (specifically with OE)? I know there are some recipes for Maemo 4, but they are quite deprecated (though I've gotten a fair number of them to build with small modifications). I assume the Scratchbox and Maemo communities are mostly interested in applications-level development, which would make sense. However I'm hopeful there are a few out there interested in these ideas. Thanks much, Mike ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: SQLite3
What do you mean by "does not run"? It does work for me and other people. The address you found it at is the official Diablo SDK repo. Check here to see whats included in Diablo and the corresponding versions and changes from Chinook: http://repository.maemo.org/stable/4.1/4.1_vs_4.0.1_content_changes.html Regards: Bundyo On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 9:21 PM, Dr. Nicholas Shaw wrote: > If 3.4.1 is part of the Maemo distribution, I'm unaware of it. I've > downloaded/installed the debs @ > repository.maemo.org/pool/Diablo/free/s/sqlite3/ and sqlite3 does not > run. Nor can you run sqlite3 and have it run. This does work and so far I > haven't had any problems. > > > > My next step is to create a deb package (need to learn how first…). > > > > Nick. > > > > *From:* Kamen Bundev [mailto:bun...@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Saturday, January 17, 2009 11:56 AM > *To:* Dr. Nicholas Shaw > *Cc:* maemo-developers > *Subject:* Re: SQLite3 > > > > Hi, > > You can also get a source package from Debian and create a deb directly > from it in scratchbox. The real problem is that Sqlite3 3.4.1 is part of the > Maemo distribution and if you replace is for the user you may break > something else (i think the db format is slightly different) and break it > more if the user uninstalls your version. So, why don't you use 3.4.1? > > Regards: > Bundyo > > On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 8:44 PM, Dr. Nicholas Shaw > wrote: > > Ok, I have sqlite3.6.8 up-and-running on my 810. Here's what I did: > > 1. Got scratchbox up-and-running. > 2. Under my user directory (logged in to scratchbox), created a directory > called tmp. Then got out of scratchbox. > 3. Went to sqlite.org ( http://www.sqlite.org/download.html ) and > downloaded the tarball of the complete source tree (sqlite-3 6 8-tar.gz) - > or whatever version is current. > 4. Outside of scratchbox, I copied this file to the tmp directory I > created. > 5. Back inside scratchbox, I unzipped/untared the file (this creates a new > sqlite directory). > 6. Changed to the directory and compiled, ran make, and make install > according to the README. > 7. Located where make install put the files and the permissions then put > those files onto my 810, ran chmod +x on all and chown. Here are the > locations and ownerships: > >/usr/local/bin/sqlite executableuser:users >/usr/lib and /usr/local/lib (same files) > >libsqlite3.aroot:staff >libsqlite3.la root:staff >libsqlite3.so -> libsqlite3.so.0.8.6root:staff >libsqlite3.so.0 -> libsqlite3.so.0.8.6 root:staff >libsqlite3.so.0.8.6 root:staff > > 8. Tested it on books.db (listing of my library). :-) > > Nick. > > > ___ > maemo-developers mailing list > maemo-developers@maemo.org > https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers > > > ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Native gcc for development on N810
Klaus Rotter schrieb: > Add http://repository.maemo.org/sdk with components sdk/free and Wrong! Native gcc for maemo/diablo is in http://repository.maemo.org/ with components sdk/free and sdk/non-free. -- Klaus Rotter * klaus at rotters dot de * www.rotters.de ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: extras repository problems
Hi, Am Samstag 17 Januar 2009 schrieb Graham Cobb: > Presumably you are using dh_shlibdeps, so it is using data supplied by the Yes, i do. > library. The library tells it what the condition has to be, so it is > libgoocanvas which is forcing the "=". You might want to complain to the > maintainer of that. There may be a good reason but it does make life > difficult for packages which need to depend on libgoocanvas. Ok, good to know who the culprit is. > There you are, more than you ever wanted to know about how debhelper handles > shared library dependencies! Thanks for the explanation. Sometimes it's really nice if someone summarizes the man pages :-) Thanks again, Till ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Native gcc for development on N810
Klaus Rotter schrieb: > I want to install a gcc toolchain directly on the N810. Marat Radchenko mailed me the answer. It is in the sdk repository. Add http://repository.maemo.org/sdk with components sdk/free and sdk/non-free. -Klaus -- Klaus Rotter * klaus at rotters dot de * www.rotters.de ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
RE: SQLite3
If 3.4.1 is part of the Maemo distribution, I’m unaware of it. I’ve downloaded/installed the debs @ repository.maemo.org/pool/Diablo/free/s/sqlite3/ and sqlite3 does not run. Nor can you run sqlite3 and have it run. This does work and so far I haven’t had any problems. My next step is to create a deb package (need to learn how first…). Nick. From: Kamen Bundev [mailto:bun...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2009 11:56 AM To: Dr. Nicholas Shaw Cc: maemo-developers Subject: Re: SQLite3 Hi, You can also get a source package from Debian and create a deb directly from it in scratchbox. The real problem is that Sqlite3 3.4.1 is part of the Maemo distribution and if you replace is for the user you may break something else (i think the db format is slightly different) and break it more if the user uninstalls your version. So, why don't you use 3.4.1? Regards: Bundyo On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 8:44 PM, Dr. Nicholas Shaw wrote: Ok, I have sqlite3.6.8 up-and-running on my 810. Here's what I did: 1. Got scratchbox up-and-running. 2. Under my user directory (logged in to scratchbox), created a directory called tmp. Then got out of scratchbox. 3. Went to sqlite.org ( http://www.sqlite.org/download.html ) and downloaded the tarball of the complete source tree (sqlite-3 6 8-tar.gz) - or whatever version is current. 4. Outside of scratchbox, I copied this file to the tmp directory I created. 5. Back inside scratchbox, I unzipped/untared the file (this creates a new sqlite directory). 6. Changed to the directory and compiled, ran make, and make install according to the README. 7. Located where make install put the files and the permissions then put those files onto my 810, ran chmod +x on all and chown. Here are the locations and ownerships: /usr/local/bin/sqlite executableuser:users /usr/lib and /usr/local/lib (same files) libsqlite3.aroot:staff libsqlite3.la root:staff libsqlite3.so -> libsqlite3.so.0.8.6root:staff libsqlite3.so.0 -> libsqlite3.so.0.8.6 root:staff libsqlite3.so.0.8.6 root:staff 8. Tested it on books.db (listing of my library). :-) Nick. ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
RE: SQLite3
Oops, I forgot two steps... 8. cd /usr/bin 9. ln -s /usr/local/bin/sqlite3.dat sqlite3 (creates a link) Now you just call sqlite3 from wherever and you're up-and-running. Nick. -Original Message- From: maemo-developers-boun...@maemo.org [mailto:maemo-developers-boun...@maemo.org] On Behalf Of Dr. Nicholas Shaw Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2009 11:45 AM To: 'maemo-developers' Subject: SQLite3 Ok, I have sqlite3.6.8 up-and-running on my 810. Here's what I did: 1. Got scratchbox up-and-running. 2. Under my user directory (logged in to scratchbox), created a directory called tmp. Then got out of scratchbox. 3. Went to sqlite.org ( http://www.sqlite.org/download.html ) and downloaded the tarball of the complete source tree (sqlite-3 6 8-tar.gz) - or whatever version is current. 4. Outside of scratchbox, I copied this file to the tmp directory I created. 5. Back inside scratchbox, I unzipped/untared the file (this creates a new sqlite directory). 6. Changed to the directory and compiled, ran make, and make install according to the README. 7. Located where make install put the files and the permissions then put those files onto my 810, ran chmod +x on all and chown. Here are the locations and ownerships: /usr/local/bin/sqlite executableuser:users /usr/lib and /usr/local/lib (same files) libsqlite3.aroot:staff libsqlite3.la root:staff libsqlite3.so -> libsqlite3.so.0.8.6root:staff libsqlite3.so.0 -> libsqlite3.so.0.8.6 root:staff libsqlite3.so.0.8.6 root:staff 8. Tested it on books.db (listing of my library). :-) Nick. ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: SQLite3
Hi, You can also get a source package from Debian and create a deb directly from it in scratchbox. The real problem is that Sqlite3 3.4.1 is part of the Maemo distribution and if you replace is for the user you may break something else (i think the db format is slightly different) and break it more if the user uninstalls your version. So, why don't you use 3.4.1? Regards: Bundyo On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 8:44 PM, Dr. Nicholas Shaw wrote: > Ok, I have sqlite3.6.8 up-and-running on my 810. Here's what I did: > > 1. Got scratchbox up-and-running. > 2. Under my user directory (logged in to scratchbox), created a directory > called tmp. Then got out of scratchbox. > 3. Went to sqlite.org ( http://www.sqlite.org/download.html ) and > downloaded the tarball of the complete source tree (sqlite-3 6 8-tar.gz) - > or whatever version is current. > 4. Outside of scratchbox, I copied this file to the tmp directory I > created. > 5. Back inside scratchbox, I unzipped/untared the file (this creates a new > sqlite directory). > 6. Changed to the directory and compiled, ran make, and make install > according to the README. > 7. Located where make install put the files and the permissions then put > those files onto my 810, ran chmod +x on all and chown. Here are the > locations and ownerships: > >/usr/local/bin/sqlite executableuser:users >/usr/lib and /usr/local/lib (same files) > >libsqlite3.aroot:staff >libsqlite3.la root:staff >libsqlite3.so -> libsqlite3.so.0.8.6root:staff >libsqlite3.so.0 -> libsqlite3.so.0.8.6 root:staff >libsqlite3.so.0.8.6 root:staff > > 8. Tested it on books.db (listing of my library). :-) > > Nick. > > > ___ > maemo-developers mailing list > maemo-developers@maemo.org > https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers > ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
SQLite3
Ok, I have sqlite3.6.8 up-and-running on my 810. Here's what I did: 1. Got scratchbox up-and-running. 2. Under my user directory (logged in to scratchbox), created a directory called tmp. Then got out of scratchbox. 3. Went to sqlite.org ( http://www.sqlite.org/download.html ) and downloaded the tarball of the complete source tree (sqlite-3 6 8-tar.gz) - or whatever version is current. 4. Outside of scratchbox, I copied this file to the tmp directory I created. 5. Back inside scratchbox, I unzipped/untared the file (this creates a new sqlite directory). 6. Changed to the directory and compiled, ran make, and make install according to the README. 7. Located where make install put the files and the permissions then put those files onto my 810, ran chmod +x on all and chown. Here are the locations and ownerships: /usr/local/bin/sqlite executableuser:users /usr/lib and /usr/local/lib (same files) libsqlite3.aroot:staff libsqlite3.la root:staff libsqlite3.so -> libsqlite3.so.0.8.6root:staff libsqlite3.so.0 -> libsqlite3.so.0.8.6 root:staff libsqlite3.so.0.8.6 root:staff 8. Tested it on books.db (listing of my library). :-) Nick. ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: extras repository problems
On Saturday 17 January 2009 12:25:04 Till Harbaum / Lists wrote:
> > Actually, the autobuilder doesn't check installation dependencies, only
> > build
>
> It creates the dependencies. So everything required to build was definitely
> available during the build process and thus everything to run it was also
> there.
No, the autobuilder doesn't create dependencies -- the package debian/control
file creates the dependencies and **can** specify anything you like.
However, it **normally** includes "${shlibs:Depends}" to define dependencies
on shared libraries. ${shlibs:Depends} is (effectively) set up from commands
in the debian/rules file. If you are using the common debhelper calls your
debian/rules will probably have a call to dh_shlibdeps which is what sets up
${shlibs:Depends}.
You can read the man pages for dh_shlibdeps and dpkg-shlibdeps to see what
that does but the bottom line is that it uses data supplied by the shared
library itself to set the dependency. So, if that is what is setting the
dependency (instead of it being hard coded in debian/control) then it should,
indeed, be being set correctly automatically during the build. But this is
not a function of the autobuilder -- it is a combination of your package
files (debian/control and debian/rules) and the shared library you are
depending on (libgoocanvas-common in this case).
> > It is a really bad idea for osm2go to have an exact version dependency
> > (the "=" in the dependency) because it means it will be broken if someone
>
> But that's being added automatically by the build process. The question is:
> How and why does this get added?
Presumably you are using dh_shlibdeps, so it is using data supplied by the
library. The library tells it what the condition has to be, so it is
libgoocanvas which is forcing the "=". You might want to complain to the
maintainer of that. There may be a good reason but it does make life
difficult for packages which need to depend on libgoocanvas.
For your future information, libgoocanvas is probably using dh_makeshlibs to
set up the dependency information. Check out the man page for that (and
the -V option in particular) if you want to see how that is used.
There you are, more than you ever wanted to know about how debhelper handles
shared library dependencies!
Graham
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Re: extras repository problems
Hi, Am Samstag 17 Januar 2009 schrieb Niels Breet: > There was a problem with cron on the repository machine. That has been > fixed now. You should see your packages in the repository now? Great, thanks, looks like it's there. > It should be available? I see it in Packages: Yupp, i was just too stupid as i had some different version installed from a different repository (yes, i know, one shouldn't use other repositories :-) > The new debmaster position will be filled soon, the community council is > selecting the candidate at the moment. So I guess we will hear something > about that real soon. Great! Thanks, Till ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: extras repository problems
Hi Niels, Ok, I can see the new version of Qt on extra-devel Thank you Antonio On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 2:36 PM, Niels Breet wrote: > On Sat, January 17, 2009 10:40, Till Harbaum / Lists wrote: > > Hi, > > > > > > i am having two problems with the maemo repositories: > > > > a) i uploaded osm2go-0.6-9 half a day ago and the logs show the autobuild > > was successful: https://garage.maemo.org/builder/diablo/osm2go_0.6-9/ > > But the new version just doesn't show up in extras-devel. > > How comes? > > > > There was a problem with cron on the repository machine. That has been > fixed now. You should see your packages in the repository now? > > > > > b) The previous version also isn't installable anymore since it claims to > > have a mssing dependency on libgoocanvas-common (= 0.9-2maemo0). How do > > these things happen? Since this version also was built using the > > autobuilder, the build mechanism sure had access to all these parts. How > > comes they are gone now? > > > > It should be available? I see it in Packages: > > Package: libgoocanvas-common > Priority: optional > Section: libs > Installed-Size: 128 > Maintainer: Johannes Schmid > Architecture: all > Source: goocanvas > Version: 0.9-2maemo0 > Filename: > pool/diablo/free/g/goocanvas/libgoocanvas-common_0.9-2maemo0_all.deb > Size: 31966 > MD5sum: 9a3573d2989d4c889be3146a715eb415 > > > > I really think the repositories need a maintainer. There are so > > many broken things in them ... > > The new debmaster position will be filled soon, the community council is > selecting the candidate at the moment. So I guess we will hear something > about that real soon. > > > > > Till > > > -- > Niels Breet > maemo.org webmaster > > > ___ > maemo-developers mailing list > maemo-developers@maemo.org > https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers > -- Natalie Wood - "The only time a woman really succeeds in changing a man is when he is a baby." ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: extras repository problems
On Sat, January 17, 2009 10:40, Till Harbaum / Lists wrote: > Hi, > > > i am having two problems with the maemo repositories: > > a) i uploaded osm2go-0.6-9 half a day ago and the logs show the autobuild > was successful: https://garage.maemo.org/builder/diablo/osm2go_0.6-9/ > But the new version just doesn't show up in extras-devel. > How comes? > There was a problem with cron on the repository machine. That has been fixed now. You should see your packages in the repository now? > > b) The previous version also isn't installable anymore since it claims to > have a mssing dependency on libgoocanvas-common (= 0.9-2maemo0). How do > these things happen? Since this version also was built using the > autobuilder, the build mechanism sure had access to all these parts. How > comes they are gone now? > It should be available? I see it in Packages: Package: libgoocanvas-common Priority: optional Section: libs Installed-Size: 128 Maintainer: Johannes Schmid Architecture: all Source: goocanvas Version: 0.9-2maemo0 Filename: pool/diablo/free/g/goocanvas/libgoocanvas-common_0.9-2maemo0_all.deb Size: 31966 MD5sum: 9a3573d2989d4c889be3146a715eb415 > I really think the repositories need a maintainer. There are so > many broken things in them ... The new debmaster position will be filled soon, the community council is selecting the candidate at the moment. So I guess we will hear something about that real soon. > > Till -- Niels Breet maemo.org webmaster ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: extras repository problems
Hi, I had the same problem with Qt. The building process finished successfully at 5 o'clock and it's still not available on extra-devel. Antonio On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 1:37 PM, Graham Cobb > wrote: > On Saturday 17 January 2009 09:40:11 Till Harbaum / Lists wrote: > > a) i uploaded osm2go-0.6-9 half a day ago and the logs show > > the autobuild was successful: > > https://garage.maemo.org/builder/diablo/osm2go_0.6-9/ > > But the new version just doesn't show up in extras-devel. > > How comes? > > I am sure Niels or Ed will take a look and respond soon (although it is a > weekend so maybe not). > > > b) The previous version also isn't installable anymore since > > it claims to have a mssing dependency on libgoocanvas-common > > (= 0.9-2maemo0). How do these things happen? Since this > > version also was built using the autobuilder, the build mechanism > > sure had access to all these parts. How comes they are gone > > now? > > Actually, the autobuilder doesn't check installation dependencies, only > build > dependencies (this is necessary in case the dependencies are circular). > That > is why, after building, it is important to test it can be installed. There > has been discussion of the promotion interface checking installation > dependencies but, as far as I know, it doesn't do that yet. > > It is a really bad idea for osm2go to have an exact version dependency > (the "=" in the dependency) because it means it will be broken if someone > updates a new version of libgoocanvas-common. However, 0.9-2maemo0 seems > to > be the current version in extras-devel so the problem must either be that > you > have some other version of libgoocanvas-common installed on your tablet or > it > cannot be installed for some reason. You will need to use apt and dpkg > from > the command line to see why: > > dpkg -l libgoocanvas-common > > will tell you if you have libgoocanvas-common installed, and which version > > apt-get install libgoocanvas-common=0.9-2maemo0 > > will tell you why you can't install it. > > > I really think the repositories need a maintainer. There are so > > many broken things in them ... > > The whole purpose of extras-devel is to allow things like this to be found, > before breaking extras. That is why it contains broken things -- so they > can > be found and repaired! > > Graham > ___ > maemo-developers mailing list > maemo-developers@maemo.org > https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers > -- Natalie Wood - "The only time a woman really succeeds in changing a man is when he is a baby." ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: extras repository problems
Hi, Am Samstag 17 Januar 2009 schrieb Graham Cobb: > I am sure Niels or Ed will take a look and respond soon (although it is a > weekend so maybe not). It's not really urgent, i was just wondering ... > Actually, the autobuilder doesn't check installation dependencies, only build It creates the dependencies. So everything required to build was definitely available during the build process and thus everything to run it was also there. > It is a really bad idea for osm2go to have an exact version dependency > (the "=" in the dependency) because it means it will be broken if someone But that's being added automatically by the build process. The question is: How and why does this get added? > dpkg -l libgoocanvas-common > > will tell you if you have libgoocanvas-common installed, and which version Thanks for that hint, i had some newer version from a different repository. Interesting that this didn't matter when i updated osm2go, just when i deinstall and re-install. Anyway, that hint was the solution. Thanks! > > I really think the repositories need a maintainer. There are so > > many broken things in them ... > > The whole purpose of extras-devel is to allow things like this to be found, > before breaking extras. That is why it contains broken things -- so they can > be found and repaired! Yes, but a) some things are promoted to extras in this broken state and b) there are so many packages in extras-devel that just sit there and collect dust. If your definition of extras-devel is right, then it should basically be empty since broken things should be removed and working things be promoted. Thanks again, Till ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: extras repository problems
On Saturday 17 January 2009 09:40:11 Till Harbaum / Lists wrote: > a) i uploaded osm2go-0.6-9 half a day ago and the logs show > the autobuild was successful: > https://garage.maemo.org/builder/diablo/osm2go_0.6-9/ > But the new version just doesn't show up in extras-devel. > How comes? I am sure Niels or Ed will take a look and respond soon (although it is a weekend so maybe not). > b) The previous version also isn't installable anymore since > it claims to have a mssing dependency on libgoocanvas-common > (= 0.9-2maemo0). How do these things happen? Since this > version also was built using the autobuilder, the build mechanism > sure had access to all these parts. How comes they are gone > now? Actually, the autobuilder doesn't check installation dependencies, only build dependencies (this is necessary in case the dependencies are circular). That is why, after building, it is important to test it can be installed. There has been discussion of the promotion interface checking installation dependencies but, as far as I know, it doesn't do that yet. It is a really bad idea for osm2go to have an exact version dependency (the "=" in the dependency) because it means it will be broken if someone updates a new version of libgoocanvas-common. However, 0.9-2maemo0 seems to be the current version in extras-devel so the problem must either be that you have some other version of libgoocanvas-common installed on your tablet or it cannot be installed for some reason. You will need to use apt and dpkg from the command line to see why: dpkg -l libgoocanvas-common will tell you if you have libgoocanvas-common installed, and which version apt-get install libgoocanvas-common=0.9-2maemo0 will tell you why you can't install it. > I really think the repositories need a maintainer. There are so > many broken things in them ... The whole purpose of extras-devel is to allow things like this to be found, before breaking extras. That is why it contains broken things -- so they can be found and repaired! Graham ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
extras repository problems
Hi, i am having two problems with the maemo repositories: a) i uploaded osm2go-0.6-9 half a day ago and the logs show the autobuild was successful: https://garage.maemo.org/builder/diablo/osm2go_0.6-9/ But the new version just doesn't show up in extras-devel. How comes? b) The previous version also isn't installable anymore since it claims to have a mssing dependency on libgoocanvas-common (= 0.9-2maemo0). How do these things happen? Since this version also was built using the autobuilder, the build mechanism sure had access to all these parts. How comes they are gone now? I really think the repositories need a maintainer. There are so many broken things in them ... Till ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
