Re: scratchbox ide

2009-01-26 Thread Dirk-Jan C. Binnema
On Fri, 23 Jan 2009, ext Frank Banul wrote:

 I use vi. I have not had the pleasure of learning Emacs. For my
 understanding, is it possible to define a list of files or directories
 in a project and then search for instances of used variables and how
 they are used? Same question for functions. I did a quick google
 search and didn't find either of these capabilities illustrated. 

For emacs (and, mutatis mutandis, for vim), see:
http://emacs-fu.blogspot.com/2009/01/navigating-through-source-code-using.html

 I see color syntax support. I know vi has auto indentation and I
 assume emacs does as well but can they go as far as selecting blocks
 of code and auto indent?

Well, if you have to select first it's not really auto-indent -- but
yeah, just select and C-M-\ (ie., Control-Alt-backslash).

Emacs is a very powerful editor, but it can be a harsh mistress in the
beginning. When you put in the effort, most people seem to hang on --
'Stockholm Syndrome' :-)

To bring back the Maemo-angle: with Emacs it's easy (though probably not
if you've never used emacs) to integrate with the environment, run
compilers, debuggers in scratchbox or even on device.
http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/CompileInsideScratchbox
 
Best wishes,
Dirk.

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Re: Aptitude for Maemo

2009-01-26 Thread Marius Vollmer
ext Nathan Summers rockwal...@gmail.com writes:

 This is like saying that a Porsche is just another box with wheels on
 it, so if you already own an apple cart, a Porsche is just a waste of
 garage space.

Heh, objection! :-) Don't you dare compare the Application manager with
an apple cart.  It slowly turns into a rust bucket, though...
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Re: Aptitude for Maemo

2009-01-26 Thread Marius Vollmer
ext Jonathan Marsaud z...@ubuntu.com writes:

 In my humble opinion, aptitude should be added to the main seed of
 Maemo; why is it not already the case?

Good question.  We only needed apt for the Application manager, and
including aptitude as well frankly never occured to me.

But, there actually _is_ no Maemo main seed.  There are the SDK
repositories, there are the SSU repositories, and then there is the
'certified' repository.  I'd say that the Maemo Extras repository is the
best place for aptitude now, with the best hope for active maintenance.
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Re: Diablo auto-builder: broken

2009-01-26 Thread Niels Breet
Hi,

It looks like libxerces was stuck in some kind of endless build loop.

After I killed that build, everything in the queue started to build again.
Now I have to go and find out why the other 2 builders weren't used and
how this package could block everything.

Weird ...


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maemo.org webmaster

 Hi,


 any news on this? I have a bunch of things in that queue. Unfortunately
 with the chinook autobuilder choking on libxerces and with the diablo
 builder not working at all i am kind of stuck in the middle of migrating
 the harbaum.org repository to extras-devel.

 I also wonder if i'll have to upload anything a second time or if the
 queued packages will be processed later.

 Till


 Am Sonntag 25 Januar 2009 schrieb Andrew Flegg:

 Hi,


 The Diablo auto-builder is broken. No updates to the build logs since
 2009-01-23T21:45:


 https://garage.maemo.org/builder/diablo/?C=M;O=D


 Anyone from the maemo.org team looking into it?


 Thanks in advance,


 Andrew




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Re: Diablo auto-builder: broken

2009-01-26 Thread Martin Grimme
Hi,

maybe it would be good to automatically kill any build process that
takes longer than, say, an hour.

Just my 2¢


Martin


2009/1/26, Niels Breet ni...@maemo.org:
 Hi,

 It looks like libxerces was stuck in some kind of endless build loop.

 After I killed that build, everything in the queue started to build again.
 Now I have to go and find out why the other 2 builders weren't used and
 how this package could block everything.

 Weird ...


 --
 Niels Breet
 maemo.org webmaster

 Hi,


 any news on this? I have a bunch of things in that queue. Unfortunately
 with the chinook autobuilder choking on libxerces and with the diablo
 builder not working at all i am kind of stuck in the middle of migrating
 the harbaum.org repository to extras-devel.

 I also wonder if i'll have to upload anything a second time or if the
 queued packages will be processed later.

 Till


 Am Sonntag 25 Januar 2009 schrieb Andrew Flegg:

 Hi,


 The Diablo auto-builder is broken. No updates to the build logs since
 2009-01-23T21:45:


 https://garage.maemo.org/builder/diablo/?C=M;O=D


 Anyone from the maemo.org team looking into it?


 Thanks in advance,


 Andrew




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Re: Diablo auto-builder: broken

2009-01-26 Thread Till Harbaum / Lists
Hi,

Am Montag 26 Januar 2009 schrieb Niels Breet:
 Now I have to go and find out why the other 2 builders weren't used and
 how this package could block everything.
You mean _i_ killed the autobuilders?

I know that the first upload attempt returned with a failure. You already told
me that this happens since the order i upload the files in isn't perfect. The
problem: I use dput and i don't think i can/should try to influence this.

Anyway, after the dput returned an error i immediately tried again. But i 
think sometimes get build although dput returned an error. So i might 
have been uploading the second time while the build was running. May
that be related to the problem?

I just had another dput failure:
Uploading to diablo-extras-builder (via scp to garage.maemo.org):
enigma_1.10-1svn1477.dsc
   100%  705 0.7KB/s   00:00
enigma_1.10-1svn1477.tar.gz 
   100%   31MB  32.2KB/s   16:24
scp: /var/www/extras-devel/incoming-builder/diablo/enigma_1.10-1svn1477.tar.gz: 
set times: No such file or directory
enigma_1.10-1svn1477_i386.deb   
   100% 6660KB  33.0KB/s   03:22
enigma_1.10-1svn1477_i386.changes   
   100%  954 0.9KB/s   00:00
Warning: The execution of '/usr/bin/scp' as
  'scp -p 
/scratchbox/users/harbaum/home/harbaum/enigma/svn/enigma_1.10-1svn1477.dsc 
/scratchbox/users/harbaum/home/harbaum/enigma/svn/enigma_1.10-1svn1477.tar.gz 
/scratchbox/users/harbaum/home/harbaum/enigma/svn/enigma_1.10-1svn1477_i386.deb 
/scratchbox/users/harbaum/home/harbaum/enigma/svn/enigma_1.10-1svn1477_i386.changes
 harb...@garage.maemo.org:/var/www/extras-devel/incoming-builder/diablo'
  returned a nonzero exit code.

But the build seems to have started, anyway.


Regards,
  Till
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Re: Diablo auto-builder: broken

2009-01-26 Thread Till Harbaum / Lists
Hi,

Am Montag 26 Januar 2009 schrieb Till Harbaum / Lists:
 But the build seems to have started, anyway.
No, it failed. The tar.gz was indeed broken after the upload.

Till
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Re: Aptitude for Maemo

2009-01-26 Thread Jonathan Marsaud
Le lundi 26 janvier 2009 à 10:52 +0200, Marius Vollmer a écrit :
 Good question.  We only needed apt for the Application manager, and
 including aptitude as well frankly never occured to me.
 
 But, there actually _is_ no Maemo main seed.  There are the SDK
 repositories, there are the SSU repositories, and then there is the
 'certified' repository.  I'd say that the Maemo Extras repository is the
 best place for aptitude now, with the best hope for active maintenance.

Thanks for your clear answer. After all, it makes sense to me that extra
repository is the best place for aptitude: classic users does not use
Terminal to install new apps, and apt is just required for the
Application Manager which is the default install method.

Regards.
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GNU/Linux The dynamic duo

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Chinook auto-builder: also kind of broken

2009-01-26 Thread Till Harbaum / Lists
Hi,

what's happening here? Whenever i try to upload enigma to the
chinook autobuilder this happens:

Checking Signature on .changes
gpg: Signatur am So 25 Jan 2009 20:38:00 CET mit DSA Schlüssel, ID 4794D6D3, 
erfolgt
gpg: Korrekte Unterschrift von 'Till Harbaum t...@harbaum.org'
Good signature on 
/scratchbox/users/harbaum/home/harbaum/enigma/svn/enigma_1.10-1svn1477_armel.changes.
Uploading to chinook-extras-builder (via scp to garage.maemo.org):
enigma_1.10-1svn1477_armel.deb  
   100% 6611KB  32.6KB/s   03:23
enigma_1.10-1svn1477_armel.changes  
   100%  781 0.8KB/s   00:00
Successfully uploaded packages.
Not running dinstall.
Checking Signature on .changes
gpg: Signatur am So 25 Jan 2009 20:38:01 CET mit DSA Schlüssel, ID 4794D6D3, 
erfolgt
gpg: Korrekte Unterschrift von 'Till Harbaum t...@harbaum.org'
Good signature on 
/scratchbox/users/harbaum/home/harbaum/enigma/svn/enigma_1.10-1svn1477_i386.changes.
Checking Signature on .dsc
gpg: Signatur am So 25 Jan 2009 20:38:00 CET mit DSA Schlüssel, ID 4794D6D3, 
erfolgt
gpg: Korrekte Unterschrift von 'Till Harbaum t...@harbaum.org'
Good signature on 
/scratchbox/users/harbaum/home/harbaum/enigma/svn/enigma_1.10-1svn1477.dsc.
Uploading to chinook-extras-builder (via scp to garage.maemo.org):
enigma_1.10-1svn1477.dsc
   100%  705 0.7KB/s   00:00
enigma_1.10-1svn1477.tar.gz 
   100%   31MB  32.2KB/s   16:23
scp: 
/var/www/extras-devel/incoming-builder/chinook/enigma_1.10-1svn1477.tar.gz: set 
times: No such file or directory
enigma_1.10-1svn1477_i386.deb   
   100% 6660KB  32.6KB/s   03:24
enigma_1.10-1svn1477_i386.changes   
   100%  954 0.9KB/s   00:00
Warning: The execution of '/usr/bin/scp' as
  'scp -p 
/scratchbox/users/harbaum/home/harbaum/enigma/svn/enigma_1.10-1svn1477.dsc 
/scratchbox/users/harbaum/home/harbaum/enigma/svn/enigma_1.10-1svn1477.tar.gz 
/scratchbox/users/harbaum/home/harbaum/enigma/svn/enigma_1.10-1svn1477_i386.deb 
/scratchbox/users/harbaum/home/harbaum/enigma/svn/enigma_1.10-1svn1477_i386.changes
 harb...@garage.maemo.org:/var/www/extras-devel/incoming-builder/chinook'
  returned a nonzero exit code.
Error while uploading.


And the build then fails with:

[2009-01-26 16:25:01] Processing package enigma 1.10-1svn1477. Uploader: 
harbaum, builder: builder1
[2009-01-26 16:25:01] REJECTED: 'File size for 
/var/www/extras-devel/incoming-builder/chinook/enigma_1.10-1svn1477.tar.gz does 
not match that specified in .dsc'

Till
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Re: Chinook auto-builder: also kind of broken

2009-01-26 Thread Niels Breet
 Hi,


 ok, i'll try the direct scp way.

 Is this error:

 /var/www/extras-devel/incoming-builder/chinook/enigma_1.10-1svn1477.t
 ar.g z: set times: No such file or directory

 really related to the file order? It sounds more like the file didn't get
 saved or was lost after upload for some other reason.

No, the file got moved away because the autobuilder moved it to the build
machine while you were still uploading it. This seem to only happen when
people are uploading large files. (And it takes a while for the file to
get uploaded)


 Till


- Niels


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Re: Chinook auto-builder: also kind of broken

2009-01-26 Thread Till Harbaum / Lists
Argh ... the web uploader says file upload failed for tar, please try again 
...

Really time to try scp :-)

Till

Am Montag 26 Januar 2009 schrieb Niels Breet:
  Hi,
 
 
  ok, i'll try the direct scp way.
 
  Is this error:
 
  /var/www/extras-devel/incoming-builder/chinook/enigma_1.10-1svn1477.t
  ar.g z: set times: No such file or directory
 
  really related to the file order? It sounds more like the file didn't get
  saved or was lost after upload for some other reason.
 
 No, the file got moved away because the autobuilder moved it to the build
 machine while you were still uploading it. This seem to only happen when
 people are uploading large files. (And it takes a while for the file to
 get uploaded)
 
 
  Till
 
 
 - Niels
 
 
 


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Re: Aptitude for Maemo

2009-01-26 Thread Denis Dimick
LOL,

Nathan, yes you have a valid point, getting stuck in dpg hell is a pain,
I've never been stuck like I used to under RPM's.

Maybe we are back to the argument of adding it as an extra?

Denis

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sik vis paw kem, para bellum
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oderint dum metuant
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Our Country won't go on forever, if we stay soft as we are now. There won't
be any AMERICA because some foreign soldiery will invade us and take our
women and breed a hardier race! -LT. GEN. LEWIS CHESTY PULLER, USMC



On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 3:06 PM, Nathan Summers rockwal...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 4:58 PM, Denis Dimick dgdim...@gmail.com wrote:
  I'm thinking that aptitude is more like having to drive the Porsche onto
 a
  flatbed truck, drive the truck where you need to go, and unload the
 Porsche.
  apt-get, apt-cache and dpkg will so things much faster the loadin
 Aptitude
  and hunting for the app you want to install, de-install.

 Aptitude has a command-line mode that is almost identical to apt-get
 and apt-cache, and the interactive mode has a search feature.  But
 yes, dpkg is great until you have a lot of dependencies, and apt-get
 is great until you have conflicts or would prefer a different
 dependency resolution than the one apt-get decides is best.  Going
 down the food chain even farther, tar xvfz is great until you have
 dependencies, and compiling everything from source is great until you
 actually need to do something with your computer.  :)

 Rockwalrus

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Re: Aptitude for Maemo

2009-01-26 Thread Nathan Summers
On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 1:42 PM, Denis Dimick dgdim...@gmail.com wrote:
 LOL,

 Nathan, yes you have a valid point, getting stuck in dpg hell is a pain,
 I've never been stuck like I used to under RPM's.

Extras makes sense to me.

Rockwalrus
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Planet Maemo news from 01/01/1970

2009-01-26 Thread Rainer Dorsch
Hello,

since today news from 01/01/1970 appear in the planet maemo RSS feed again.
Is that a problem with my reader (akregator) or do others see this as well?

Thanks,
Rainer
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