Re: Nokia and MS

2011-02-13 Thread ds
Yes, both is dead! When I bought my 770 five or six years ago, I hoped
for a tablet beeing the direction of development. Obviously it wasn't
and I had to buy an iPad last year. And immediately I loved the
toolchain, I always missed for my N770, N800, N810, N900. From an
application developers point of view maemo was awfull! In october I
thought about using QT to target some Symbian devices, only to find
opengl not beeing supported! It is in the QT preview from last month. To
little to late! I know the Microsoft ecosystem for PC (that seems to be
the word right now) from 15 years ago, and it was much better than what
maemo offers today. 

From an application developers point of view the decision might not be
to bad. But I have to buy windows 7:-(

Detlef


Am Freitag, den 11.02.2011, 21:01 +0100 schrieb Klaus Umbach: 
 On 11.02.11 13:25, Demetris wrote:
  
  How does this affect the future of Maemo on Nokia's devices?
 
 Maemo is dead and Meego will die, too.
 
 Although Maemo is the plattform, that suits my personal needs best of all,
 I lost hope, there will be a successor to my N900. I think I just give up
 and get an android-phone with a keyboard and learn Java...
 
 Even if the community supports Maemo/Meego, there will be no new hardware
 and one day my n900 will be broken... 
 
 Why will Meego die? Because Intel doesn't care! They want to sell Hardware,
 and will use Android, too.
 
 This is a sad day for us, but at least a happy day for the Egyptions! (the
 term Maemobarak just came to my mind, but doesn't really make sense...)
 
 -
   Klaus
 
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Re: Nokia and MS

2011-02-13 Thread Jeremiah C. Foster
On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 09:01:23PM +0100, Klaus Umbach wrote:
 On 11.02.11 13:25, Demetris wrote:
  
  How does this affect the future of Maemo on Nokia's devices?
 
 Maemo is dead and Meego will die, too.

Don't be so sure. MeeGo is a set of vertical Linux distros. There are
other phone manufacturers interested in the Handset vertical, car 
companies in the IVI vertical, and there is some serious traction in 
the TV vertical. MeeGo is hosted at the Linux Foundation, so it has
nothing to do with Nokia in the end. 

This Nokia Microsoft hookup was designed to take the wind out of the
sails of MeeGo, it is a serious contender to WinCE and Windows Phone.
 
 Although Maemo is the plattform, that suits my personal needs best of all,
 I lost hope, there will be a successor to my N900. I think I just give up
 and get an android-phone with a keyboard and learn Java...

heh, then you'll be party to the Oracle lawsuit. Plus, there are other 
languages you can use on Android aside from the Dalvik Java dialect.
 
 Even if the community supports Maemo/Meego, there will be no new hardware
 and one day my n900 will be broken... 

Nokia claims to be releasing a MeeGo device this year.
 
 Why will Meego die? Because Intel doesn't care! They want to sell Hardware,
 and will use Android, too.

Don't be silly. Intel has to _compete_ with Android - Android doesn't run on
x86 hardware! MeeGo is Intel's embedded OS, and they are spending 100 million
US to support just the IVI vertical. I think you're barking up the wrong tree
here. 
 
 This is a sad day for us, but at least a happy day for the Egyptions! (the
 term Maemobarak just came to my mind, but doesn't really make sense...)

w00t!

Jeremiah
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need code for decoding cell broadcast SMS messages

2011-02-13 Thread Jonathan Wilson
I am looking for some code that can decode cell broadcast SMS messages, 
anyone know of any?


ofono has some but its too hard to separate from ofono itself.
Regular SMS decoders wont work as the cell broadcast SMS message format is 
different.

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maemo.org Website Bug Jar 2011.07

2011-02-13 Thread Stephen Gadsby
A Quick Look at maemo.org Website in Bugzilla (https://bugs.maemo.org/).
2011-02-07 through 2011-02-13

As of 2011-02-14 maemo.org Website contains:
* total items: 1574 (+2 this week)
* total open items: 219
* open bugs: 163
* critical/blocker: 6
* easyfix: 1
* moreinfo: 0
* crash: 0
* patch: 0
* reopened: 3
* unconfirmed: 51
* open enhancements: 56
* easyfix: 1
* moreinfo: 0
* patch: 1
* reopened: 2
* unconfirmed: 16

==--- New Items ---==

1 bug was opened -
( https://bugs.maemo.org/buglist.cgi?bug_id=11909 ):
* [11909] [Talk] Fatal memory error on search for n900 hate

0 bugs were critical/blocker.

1 enhancement was opened -
( https://bugs.maemo.org/buglist.cgi?bug_id=11918 ):
* [11918] [Talk] Subscribed Threads should have a URI to goto=newpost also


==--- Resolved Bugs ---==

1 bug was resolved fixed -
( https://bugs.maemo.org/buglist.cgi?bug_id=11909 ):
* [11909] [Talk] Fatal memory error on search for n900 hate

0 bugs were resolved invalid.

0 bugs were resolved wontfix.

0 bugs were resolved duplicate.

0 bugs were resolved worksforme.

0 bugs were resolved moved.


==--- Resolved Enhancements ---==

0 enhancements were resolved fixed.

1 enhancement was resolved invalid -
( https://bugs.maemo.org/buglist.cgi?bug_id=11918 ):
* [11918] [Talk] Subscribed Threads should have a URI to goto=newpost also

0 enhancements were resolved wontfix.

0 enhancements were resolved duplicate.

0 enhancements were resolved worksforme.

0 enhancements were resolved moved.


==--- Confirmed Items ---==

0 bugs were confirmed.

0 enhancements were confirmed.


==--- Reopened Items ---==

0 bugs were reopened.

0 enhancements were reopened.


==--- Unloved Items ---==

10 bugs were needing love -
( 
https://bugs.maemo.org/buglist.cgi?bug_id=4489,5123,5446,6121,10254,4502,5221,9727,10231,10597
):
* [4489] [Talk] There is no Today's Posts link from the Minimalistic theme
* [5123] [Downloads] Downloads main page can display duplicates
* [5446] [General] Site search is missing Brainstorm filter
* [6121] [Downloads] The number of apps counted/displayed is off by one
* [10254] [Packages] Thumbing up package does not update package karma
till reload.
* [4502] [Talk] First entry in Subscribed Threads shown without a bubble
* [5221] [Talk] thread subscription list missing checkboxes in minimalism
* [9727] [Downloads] Download counter could link to some further information
* [10231] [Autobuilder] Builder fails buils with unknown reason
* [10597] [Downloads] Description for unstable version appears on the
stable projects' page.

5 enhancements were needing love -
( https://bugs.maemo.org/buglist.cgi?bug_id=6952,6723,5131,10942,9729 ):
* [6952] [Brainstorm] Add possibility to save bugzilla styled searches
* [6723] [Autobuilder] Would be great if it would be possible to see
build log of in-progress build
* [5131] [Talk] Poll edit or update on t.m.o.
* [10942] [Bugzilla] Easy way to list packages on bugzilla.
* [9729] [Downloads] Show full package page when only one search result


==--- Keyworded Items ---==
( glossary: https://bugs.maemo.org/describekeywords.cgi )

0 bugs were tagged crash.

0 bugs were tagged easyfix.

0 bugs were tagged moreinfo.

0 bugs were tagged patch.

0 bugs were tagged performance.

0 bugs were tagged security.

0 enhancements were tagged easyfix.

0 enhancements were tagged moreinfo.

0 enhancements were tagged patch.

0 enhancements were tagged performance.


==--- Top Tens ---==

Ten biggest open bugs by number of votes -
( 
https://bugs.maemo.org/buglist.cgi?bug_id=6187,6914,8702,10959,5035,5963,9090,10450,11563,11186
):
1. (11%) [6187] [Downloads] XB-Maemo-Upgrade-Description is displayed
way too soon
2. (8%) [6914] [Packages] Allow commenter to follow comments on a
package under testing
3. (8%) [8702] [Downloads] GPG error when updating Extras from
repository.maemo.org (+1 this week)
4. (8%) [10959] [Downloads] Popular projects should ordered (by
popularity) (-1 this week)
5. (5%) [5035] [Downloads] Please display XB-Maemo-Upgrade-Description
in maemo.org downloads
6. (5%) [5963] [Downloads] Applications without screenshots shouldn't
appear on front page of downloads
7. (4%) [9090] [Bugzilla] Unclear that FIXED means Fixed internally
and not released for public (+1 this week)
8. (4%) [10450] [Autobuilder] libsdl-ttf2.0 missing from device
repositories (+1 this week)
9. (4%) [11563] [Packages] Related to bug 11516 python2.5-qt4
dependancy issues (-2 this week)
10. (3%) [11186] [Autobuilder] gtk-doc support for packages built
using extras assistant
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Ten biggest open enhancements by number of votes (unchanged for 21 weeks) -
( 

maemo.org Extras Bug Jar 2011.07

2011-02-13 Thread Stephen Gadsby
A Quick Look at Extras in Bugzilla (https://bugs.maemo.org/).
2011-02-07 through 2011-02-13

As of 2011-02-14 Extras contains:
* total items: 2338 (+29 this week)
* total open items: 868 (+7 this week)
* open bugs: 500 (-4 this week)
* critical/blocker: 29
* easyfix: 4
* moreinfo: 3
* crash: 0
* patch: 4
* reopened: 8 (+1 this week)
* unconfirmed: 302 (-2 this week)
* open enhancements: 368 (+11 this week)
* easyfix: 1
* moreinfo: 1
* patch: 3 (-1 this week)
* reopened: 1
* unconfirmed: 149 (+2 this week)

==--- New Items ---==

8 bugs were opened -
( 
https://bugs.maemo.org/buglist.cgi?bug_id=11886,11887,11905,11906,11910,11915,11919,11929
):
* [11886] [Maemo 5 Community SSU] Modest: CTRL+ENTER doesn't send e-mail
* [11887] [ReSiStance] Show unread filter multiple issues
* [11905] [Maemo 5 Community SSU] Charging led not working
* [11906] [Maemo 5 Community SSU] email desktop widget is gone after
latest Community SSU upgrade
* [11910] [Maemo 5 Community SSU] Unable to horizontal scroll
* [11915] [Maemo 5 Community SSU] Community SSU script doesn't work if
you are behind a proxy
* [11919] [mbarcode] Recent History list formatting make it hard to use
* [11929] [Hermes] Hermes not opening

Of these, 1 was a critical/blocker -
( https://bugs.maemo.org/buglist.cgi?bug_id=11887 ):
* [11887] [ReSiStance] Show unread filter multiple issues

22 enhancements were opened -
( 
https://bugs.maemo.org/buglist.cgi?bug_id=11889,11890,11891,11892,11893,11894,11895,11896,11897,11898,11899,11900,11901,11902,11904,11911,11913,11917,11920,11926,11930,11931
):
* [11889] [FM Radio] Radio for n900 didn't work fine
* [11890] [Quicknote] Improved Meego Integration
* [11891] [Multilist] Improved Meego Integration
* [11892] [nQa Audiobook Player] Improved Meego Integration
* [11893] [Waters of Shiloah] Improved Meego Integration
* [11894] [Quicknote] Package for Meego
* [11895] [Multilist] Package for Meego
* [11896] [nQa Audiobook Player] Package for Meego
* [11897] [Waters of Shiloah] Package for Meego
* [11898] [The One Ring] Package for Meego
* [11899] [ejpi] Package for Meego
* [11900] [Dialcentral] Package for Meego
* [11901] [Gonvert] Package for Meego
* [11902] [Dialcentral] QtMobility Contacts Integration
* [11904] [Maemo 5 Community SSU] ability to change the default time
for calendar events
* [11911] [Maemo 5 Community SSU] Cannot invoke call-ui from home
after double press of Fn key
* [11913] [Maemo 5 Community SSU] cloned notification light applet
with proper portrait mode dialog
* [11917] [eCoach] Interrupted activity log
* [11920] [mbarcode] Need to display Date, Barcode type and possibly
location in Recent history window
* [11926] [Maemo 5 Community SSU] Skype client broken after installing CSSU?
* [11930] [fMMS] r
* [11931] [fMMS] s


==--- Resolved Bugs ---==

11 bugs were resolved fixed -
( 
https://bugs.maemo.org/buglist.cgi?bug_id=9135,11554,11699,11799,11831,11835,11844,11858,11859,11874,11887
):
* [9135] [ejpi] Errors get cutoff
* [11554] [The One Ring] Can't send text messages with non-English characters
* [11699] [Dialcentral] Chinese charactors display error
* [11799] [nQa Audiobook Player] Continuing Stopped - by files named
by non-english characters
* [11831] [Maemo 5 Community SSU] Removal of mp-fremantle-*-pr breaks
apt autoremover (nc)
* [11835] [Maemo 5 Community SSU] Logical ID shown / Translation
missing for Add attachment dialog title in Modest
* [11844] [Maemo 5 Community SSU] Email problem if attachment or
picture included
* [11858] [Maemo 5 Community SSU] Unexpected repeated button To:
* [11859] [Maemo 5 Community SSU] No bottom send button anymore
* [11874] [Maemo 5 Community SSU] Impossible to select text once the
email is scrolled (similar to Bug 10390)
* [11887] [ReSiStance] Show unread filter multiple issues
  ---
  (nc) indicates the bug no longer has listed status.

1 bug was resolved invalid -
( https://bugs.maemo.org/buglist.cgi?bug_id=11905 ):
* [11905] [Maemo 5 Community SSU] Charging led not working

1 bug was resolved wontfix -
( https://bugs.maemo.org/buglist.cgi?bug_id=11601 ):
* [11601] [mbarcode] mBarcode does not recognize inverted barcodes

2 bugs were resolved duplicate -
( https://bugs.maemo.org/buglist.cgi?bug_id=11871,11906 ):
* [11871] [Maemo 5 Community SSU] Email attachments trouble after install SSU
* [11906] [Maemo 5 Community SSU] email desktop widget is gone after
latest Community SSU upgrade

2 bugs were resolved worksforme -
( https://bugs.maemo.org/buglist.cgi?bug_id=9569,11906 ):
* [9569] [Quicknote] The filter of undefined doesn't work.
* [11906] [Maemo 5 Community SSU] email desktop widget is gone after
latest Community SSU upgrade (nc)
  ---
  (nc) indicates the bug no longer has listed status.

0 bugs were resolved moved.


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Re: Nokia and MS

2011-02-13 Thread Ian Stirling

Jeremiah C. Foster wrote:

On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 09:01:23PM +0100, Klaus Umbach wrote:



Don't be silly. Intel has to _compete_ with Android - Android doesn't run on
x86 hardware! MeeGo is Intel's embedded OS, and they are spending 100 million
US to support just the IVI vertical. I think you're barking up the wrong tree
here. 
 


Of course it can.
http://www.android-x86.org/

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Re: need code for decoding cell broadcast SMS messages

2011-02-13 Thread Ian Stirling

Jonathan Wilson wrote:
I am looking for some code that can decode cell broadcast SMS messages, 
anyone know of any?


ofono has some but its too hard to separate from ofono itself.
Regular SMS decoders wont work as the cell broadcast SMS message format 
is different.


Have you considered posting on the osmocombb 
http://openbsc.osmocom.org/trac/ or http://bb.osmocom.org/trac/ mailing 
lists or IRC?

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