Re: GPG encryption question
dsa is for signing only. Pasi Patama wrote: > DSA keys does not work for encryption? It seems to me like that. Here > is outcome of keygeneration on N810: > > ---CUT--- > Possible actions for a DSA key: Sign Authenticate > Current allowed actions: Sign > >(S) Toggle the sign capability >(A) Toggle the authenticate capability >(Q) Finished > --CUT--- > > If so, I am unable to encrypt anything on default maemo platform on my > N810, right? > > > On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 2:32 PM, =?UTF-8?Q?Beno=C3=AEt=20HERVIER=20 > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> gnupg seem's to support only DSA keys on maemo. >> >> DSA & Elegam and RSA algo isn't available. >> >> >> >> On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 06:13:00 +0200, "Pasi Patama" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > Hi, >> > >> > I've been stepped into wonderful world of maemo just recently, but >> > already facing some questions. >> > >> > How do I use GPG for public-key encryption in N810? >> > >> > I can create key (in my laptop), import that to N810's gpg keyring, >> > but encryption (in N810 shell) gives result like: >> > >> > gpg: test.txt: encryption failed: unusable public key >> > >> > Looking forward for some ideas, how to implement public key encryption >> > in N810 shell script. >> > >> > BR, >> > >> > Pasi >> > ___ >> > maemo-developers mailing list >> > maemo-developers@maemo.org >> > https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers >> -- >> Benoît HERVIER >> http://khertan.net/ >> >> >> > ___ > maemo-developers mailing list > maemo-developers@maemo.org > https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers > ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: One question about speech2text poor performance
History lesson: 1Mhz Apple][ had >90% voice recognition ability...program was written by Bill Budge I believe. The resources have to be there. mike Marco Solari wrote: > Hi! > I have a question about the voice recognition problem on the Nokia platform, > hoping it's not too off-topic... > I see on this platform some voice recognition tool is available, but it's > extremely resource demanding, slow and performs with quite a low success > percentage... I'm asking myself how comes today quite every low-end phone is > capable to recognize uttered names by a not-trained user, with 90% success > rate (I would estimate); I believe Nokia platform sports quite higher > hardware (CPU/RAM) than thos pohones... > The question is: is the task of recognizing a small set of utterances > basically different from the task of recognizing spoken words out of a > bigger dictionary (I limit the problem to single words, not considering the > spoken speech...), or the commercial phones name-recognition software is > really more advanced than open source tools we use ? > Thanks in advance for your attention. > > Marco Solari > > > ___ > maemo-developers mailing list > maemo-developers@maemo.org > https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers > ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: new project
For what height of person? Perhaps something on swivel frame/bevel if possible w/be best. Walk up and tilt? In my experience smarthome is good to see what's available...then google and buy elsewhere. I did get an excellent deal on a FutureSmart 24zone panel though (coax, telco, ethernet, fiber) for like $600? mike Jon Smirl wrote: > On 1/12/08, Gille Caluim Anesthesia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> hadn't seen the lagotek beforebut yeah, that's what I'm going foran >> open source lagotek. Hardware cost for my project(USD): computer $100, >> touchscreen $200, camera $25, electronics for hvac relays $25. So for less >> than $400 have a lagotek. Could get it down below $300 for volume buying. >> My first task is to get an x86 maemo linux distro. >> > > Check out http://www.smarthome.com. Browse through the products and > you will get a lot of ideas on different ways to do things. For > example there are several remote controllable thermostats available. > Their Insteon lighting is upwards compatible with X10 and a whole lot > more reliable. A PC can control Insteon and the thermostats. > > In my experience people who have wall mounted LCD controls never use > them. If you do go wall mounted, mount the LCD at eye level, not light > switch level. Nobody wants to read an LCD at waist height. > > > >> >> - Original Message - >> From: Jon Smirl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: Darius Jack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Cc: Gille Caluim Anesthesia >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> , >> >> Date: Friday, January 11 2008 05:14 PM >> Subject: Re: new projectOn 1/11/08, Darius Jack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> visited www.chumby.com >>> and your chumby is liliput version of Nokia tablet, with really small >>> screen, nothing said about its resolution >>> and what makes it not a hot gizmo is this >>> " >>> Because it's always on, the chumby must be plugged in to an AC outlet. >>> >> He says he wants it wall mounted. That implies always on with AC. >> Chumby screen is 320x240. >> >> The desire is for a poor man's Lagotek. They cost over $1000 each. >> http://www.lagotek.com/ >> >> Lagotek platform includes basic features for whole home control of: >> " Climate control with multiple zones of heating and air conditioning >> " Lighting >> " LED Lighting for interior decoration >> " Distributed audio >> " Video Surveillance >> " Irrigation >> " Security >> >> >>> " >>> Robert is right. >>> Nokia tablet is much better product for his project. >>> Even old Nokia 770 is still mobile Internet station wifi-enabled with >>> 640x480 touchscreen resolution. >>> >>> Robert, please tell me more about your project to let me know how could I >>> help you. >>> >>> Darius >>> >>> Jon Smirl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> On 1/8/08, Gille Caluim Anesthesia wrote: >>> I'm exploring building a home network appliance using maemo as a >>> foundation >>> and could use a little guidance. This appliance would: be wall mounted like a panel pc, no keyboard function as a client for network audio server retrieve/display local weather via http request using built in video camera, function as video intercom interface for calling other appliances on network. function as a room thermostat by measuring temp and controlling hvac >>> relays. >>> whatever else anyone can think of the hardware platform consists of a mini-itx fanless mobo (Intel D201GLY2) connected to a 7" 800x480 lcd >> with >> usb touchscreen (lilliput) and using only virtual keyboard. >>> A Chumby - $170 would be a much cheaper base to start from. >>> www.chumby.com >>> It is fully open source and has the touchscreen and USB ports >>> >>> Obviously, many of the above functions have already been taken care of >> as >> gtk widgets. Please excuse my ignorance but..does this sound like something >> appropriate >> for maemo? the website talks about maemo for mobile linux based devices >>> but >>> not really sure where to start on building a custom distro for my >>> hardware? >>> Are there any tutorials for building maemo foundation for non-nokia >>> devices? >>> Robert ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org >> https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers >> >>> -- >>> Jon Smirl >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> ___ >>> maemo-developers mailing list >>> maemo-developers@maemo.org >>> >>> >> https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers >> >>> >>> Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com >>> >> -- >> Jon Smirl >> [EMAIL PROTECTE
Re: new project
For what height of person? Perhaps something on swivel frame/bevel if possible w/be best. Walk up and tilt? In my experience smarthome is good to see what's available...then google and buy elsewhere. I did get an excellent deal on a FutureSmart 24zone panel though (coax, telco, ethernet, fiber) for like $600? mike Jon Smirl wrote: > On 1/12/08, Gille Caluim Anesthesia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> hadn't seen the lagotek beforebut yeah, that's what I'm going foran >> open source lagotek. Hardware cost for my project(USD): computer $100, >> touchscreen $200, camera $25, electronics for hvac relays $25. So for less >> than $400 have a lagotek. Could get it down below $300 for volume buying. >> My first task is to get an x86 maemo linux distro. >> > > Check out http://www.smarthome.com. Browse through the products and > you will get a lot of ideas on different ways to do things. For > example there are several remote controllable thermostats available. > Their Insteon lighting is upwards compatible with X10 and a whole lot > more reliable. A PC can control Insteon and the thermostats. > > In my experience people who have wall mounted LCD controls never use > them. If you do go wall mounted, mount the LCD at eye level, not light > switch level. Nobody wants to read an LCD at waist height. > > > >> >> - Original Message - >> From: Jon Smirl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: Darius Jack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Cc: Gille Caluim Anesthesia >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> , >> >> Date: Friday, January 11 2008 05:14 PM >> Subject: Re: new projectOn 1/11/08, Darius Jack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> visited www.chumby.com >>> and your chumby is liliput version of Nokia tablet, with really small >>> screen, nothing said about its resolution >>> and what makes it not a hot gizmo is this >>> " >>> Because it's always on, the chumby must be plugged in to an AC outlet. >>> >> He says he wants it wall mounted. That implies always on with AC. >> Chumby screen is 320x240. >> >> The desire is for a poor man's Lagotek. They cost over $1000 each. >> http://www.lagotek.com/ >> >> Lagotek platform includes basic features for whole home control of: >> " Climate control with multiple zones of heating and air conditioning >> " Lighting >> " LED Lighting for interior decoration >> " Distributed audio >> " Video Surveillance >> " Irrigation >> " Security >> >> >>> " >>> Robert is right. >>> Nokia tablet is much better product for his project. >>> Even old Nokia 770 is still mobile Internet station wifi-enabled with >>> 640x480 touchscreen resolution. >>> >>> Robert, please tell me more about your project to let me know how could I >>> help you. >>> >>> Darius >>> >>> Jon Smirl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> On 1/8/08, Gille Caluim Anesthesia wrote: >>> I'm exploring building a home network appliance using maemo as a >>> foundation >>> and could use a little guidance. This appliance would: be wall mounted like a panel pc, no keyboard function as a client for network audio server retrieve/display local weather via http request using built in video camera, function as video intercom interface for calling other appliances on network. function as a room thermostat by measuring temp and controlling hvac >>> relays. >>> whatever else anyone can think of the hardware platform consists of a mini-itx fanless mobo (Intel D201GLY2) connected to a 7" 800x480 lcd >> with >> usb touchscreen (lilliput) and using only virtual keyboard. >>> A Chumby - $170 would be a much cheaper base to start from. >>> www.chumby.com >>> It is fully open source and has the touchscreen and USB ports >>> >>> Obviously, many of the above functions have already been taken care of >> as >> gtk widgets. Please excuse my ignorance but..does this sound like something >> appropriate >> for maemo? the website talks about maemo for mobile linux based devices >>> but >>> not really sure where to start on building a custom distro for my >>> hardware? >>> Are there any tutorials for building maemo foundation for non-nokia >>> devices? >>> Robert ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org >> https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers >> >>> -- >>> Jon Smirl >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> ___ >>> maemo-developers mailing list >>> maemo-developers@maemo.org >>> >>> >> https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers >> >>> >>> Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com >>> >> -- >> Jon Smirl >> [EMAIL PROTECTE
Re: Making my app. appear on the Navigator menu
It recently took me 2.5 days to install DevStudio w/all extensions for WM dev'tit was a freaking nightmare. They may have had easy installs and good docs in the past...but not so much anymore. I have like 20 bookmarks for WM apisnothing is in a single spot. Plus...like 20% of msoft links on their site for dev't are dead404 always. I remember attending a MS-Dev Conf like 15 years ago where they stated their "move" away from printed docs...but don't worry...everything you need will be in online help. Well as many of you already know...when you hit F1you 99% of time don't get actual help but "placeholder text". mike David Hazel wrote: > In the context of this thread, I would like to highlight one point of > Thomas' in particular: > > >> One thing Microsoft excels at is in documentation, example >> code and support (you get what you are paying for ;-) >> > > I guess the reaction of some people to that will be "Oh, well, Microsoft > have cash coming out their ears", so let me add this: > > Apple's documentation and development tools on Mac OS X leave Microsoft and > everyone else in the shade. Not only is the documentation very extensive, > complete, well-cross-referenced and online, it is FREE!!! On top of this, > their development tools are also free and every bit as good as anything that > Micro$oft produces. They have obviously realised that there's a commercial > advantage to ensuring their platform is well-supported by software > developers and have made it as easy as they can for that to happen. I spent > 6 months last year developing on Mac OS X (never having used it before), and > it was an absolute joy to work with something so well-engineered. It was > like being back in the VMS world, but with better development tools (and I > guess only another VMS programmer would know what a compliment that is). > > Why is this relevant here? Well, if Apple can do it, so can others. I'm not > asking for development tools other than the ones already available; just for > good documentation that doesn't assume everyone who reads it already knows > where to find the bits that the author has skipped over. A bare minimum > would be a web page that lists links to existing documentation in some kind > of logical order (e.g. where you get to read the pre-requisite information > before you're halfway through a complicated example which assumes you > already know it). > > > David Hazel > > ___ > maemo-developers mailing list > maemo-developers@maemo.org > https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers > ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Opera, MiniMo, Epiphany?
James Grimwood wrote: > On 26/02/07, Michael Wiktowy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > + The look-what-you-are-typing-on-a-password-entry-for-a-moment >> idea is >> > good, but Opera doesn't seem to support it. >> >> Not sure what you are referring to here. I can see the point behind >> not echoing any of your password on the screen for security purposes. > > What he means is that the password is briefly shown to the user so > they can tell whether the correct letters have been typed in. It's a > really handy feature for non-keyboard text entry. > > As to it being a security problem, don't forget - this is a handheld > portable device with 7 inch screen. It's pretty unlikely someone is > going to see what you enter unless they're stood right behind you > leaning over your shoulder. I reckon there'd be more risk entering > your PIN at a cash machine :-) > > While we're on about text entry I notice that sometimes the system > seems to register I've tapped on the keyboard (it makes a click and > highlights the button) but the character doesn't appear. > This is one of my major gripes about N800...need a builtin keyboard of some kind. As soon as you've got to enter a WEP key or something...you'll wish you had it. I have had the misrecognized chars too...it beeps and highlight char but nothing goes into field...meanwhile I'm still typing thinking char went in. Compounding this is I'm left-handed...so my hand obscures brief showing of actual char in password field. It pretty much makes typing on soft keyboard a no-go for me. ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] Wierd dhcp problem that just started occuring...
Kalle Valo wrote: > "Mike Klein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >> Went to connect to web, etc. and started getting "network error". >> >> Got around to opening xterm and noticed "/etc/resolv.conf" had 127.0.0.1 >> for name server?!? >> >> I haven't touched my main server's dhcpd config file for 2 years now. >> Disconnecting/reconnecting didn't update this file. >> >> When I update file manually to point to my dns...now I'm back on web. >> >> Am I confused or is this file supposed to get updated when you are dhcp >> client and this setting is pushed to you? >> > > I think this getting to be a FAQ.N800 and 770 use dnsmasq for proxying > DNS queries. It's perfect valid to have 127.0.0.1 in /etc/resolv.conf. > The real DNS servers are written to /tmp/resolv.conf.wlan0 and > /tmp/resolv.conf.ppp0. > > Thanks for the info...I'll look there from now on. ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
[maemo-developers] Wierd dhcp problem that just started occuring...
Went to connect to web, etc. and started getting "network error". Got around to opening xterm and noticed "/etc/resolv.conf" had 127.0.0.1 for name server?!? I haven't touched my main server's dhcpd config file for 2 years now. Disconnecting/reconnecting didn't update this file. When I update file manually to point to my dns...now I'm back on web. Am I confused or is this file supposed to get updated when you are dhcp client and this setting is pushed to you? Anybody else had this happen? ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] Media Streamer: Object Not Found
I thought most recent myth had upnp problems where it showed folders only and no file content inside? Are you using cvs builds? I see this behaviour with all my upnp clients against myth (.20). I have tested Phillips upnp remote, N800, PepperPad3, fuse/djmount and moreno files with myth...only with Windows Media Connect machines. mike Andrew J. Barr wrote: > Hi, > > I have been playing with the Nokia media streamer app on both my 770 and > N800 and I am having an issue with it. I have MythTV 0.20 installed on > my home network and it exports its TV recordings and music as UPnP AV > shares. This is picked up by the Nokia app but when I try to play > something I get 'object not found'. Does anyone have any idea what is > wrong or what I could do to further diagnose the failure? Thanks. > > Andrew Barr > ___ > maemo-developers mailing list > maemo-developers@maemo.org > https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers > ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] Questions aftering flashing n800...where is opera?
Marius Gedminas wrote: > On Fri, Jan 19, 2007 at 03:19:34PM -0800, Mike Klein wrote: > >> Can I still use SDK to build/test/deploy apps without developer rootfs? >> > > Absolutely. > > >> What features specifically do I get with developer rootfs...low level >> kernel control? >> > > One thing about dev rootfs is it flashes correct libraries on N800 (libbluetooth, etc.) so you can download Python runtime, etc. I'm not sure how to solve these deps without dev rootfs. > I'm not entirely sure. I think you used to get sbrsh CPU transparency > support and NFS support, but I heard something about those not working > any more in recent devfs images. > > QEMU CPU emulation is enough for building packages on your desktop, and > it does not need the developer rootfs on your 770. > > Marius Gedminas > > > > ___ > maemo-developers mailing list > maemo-developers@maemo.org > https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers > Thanks for all the help so far... ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] Questions aftering flashing n800...where is opera?
Thanks for info. For my own benefit and for others on forums... Can I still use SDK to build/test/deploy apps without developer rootfs? What features specifically do I get with developer rootfs...low level kernel control? I plan on doing application development and not kernel development. So developer rootfs is really for kernel developers? I was under impression (at least for usb networkingcpu transp?) that I needed this if I wanted to use SDK. thanks again... mike Andrew Flegg wrote: > On 1/19/07, Mike Klein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > [snip] >> >> I would think Opera would be available either from SDK or via pkg >> install using ApplicationManager on device. Just because I want >> dev-oriented device...doesn't mean I want all apps to be missing. > > The developer rootfs is of very little use to "normal" developers. The > end-user image probably features enough for you to develop with: > > * Third party software can be installed (including your own compiled in > Scratchbox) > > * Xterm can be installed. > > * SSH can be installed. > > I'd therefore suggest you reflash with the end-user/consumer/product > image available from Nokia. > > HTH, > > Andrew > ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] Questions aftering flashing n800...where is opera?
I have installed SDK (scratchbox and devroots) on my linux laptop. N800 had devfs flashed to it. I understand how to build apps on laptop and push/exec on N800but I'm still at a loss as to how to get Opera back on device (and some other apps present on N800 from factory). I would think Opera would be available either from SDK or via pkg install using ApplicationManager on device. Just because I want dev-oriented device...doesn't mean I want all apps to be missing. I have read ALL N800-related docs I am aware of...and haven't found this information. I have examined app repositories and don't see Opera anywhere. Minimo ain't cutting it for me at the moment...a skosh crashy. mike Michael Wiktowy wrote: > On 1/19/07, Mike Klein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > Some places to start: >> > http://maemo.org/maemowiki/ApplicationCatalog2006 >> > http://maemo.org/maemowiki/OS2007_Tested_Applications >> > >> So in general I can install mistral and have compatiblity with bora? > > The word seems to be that some mistral/scirroco apps can run without > modification/recompiling on the n800/bora. Some that make assumptions > about the underlying hardware don't however. > >> >> 2. If there are no applications (to speak of) after flashing...why is >> >> there "Messenger" icon on desktop with many menuitems and no apps >> >> hooked up to it...is this part of core ui hildon framework? >> > >> > Some apps are included in the core firmware that you flash. >> > >> Nothing is included with developer firmware that provides apps for this >> menu though. I didn't flash end-user image but developer image. > > Are you installing a development platform on a desktop? Sorry, I > misunderstood ... I thought that you were flashing your device. I > think the developer image only includes the open source stuff and not > the proprietary bits. > > /Mike > ___ > maemo-developers mailing list > maemo-developers@maemo.org > https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] Questions aftering flashing n800...where is opera?
See my responses inline below... Michael Wiktowy wrote: > On 1/19/07, Mike Klein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> There seem to be numerous applications for maemo and I can't figure >> out how/where to easily load them. I'm not too familiar with maemo >> repositories/syntax or debian commands (used mostly rpm from redhat). >> >> All that is present after flashing is xterm, gnu helloworld and some >> other app which escapes me at the moment. >> >> 1. Shouldn't Application Manager allow me to download original >> applications that came with device? (opera, etc.). How do I go about >> at least adding Opera and GoogleTalk application. Do I need to build >> these in sdk and deploy to device or can I do direct download? What >> are targets I need to specify or url of docs for this? > > Opera and GoogleTalk are included in the firmware that you flash. They > do not have to be installed separately and the Application Manager > gives no option to remove them. To see more applications to install, > you need to add more Application Catalogues. Search through maemo.org > for some examples. > They are? Where are they then? After flash'g I only see Xterm, HelloWorld and Maemo Pad. Control panel is filled with 'applets' and that's it. > Some places to start: > http://maemo.org/maemowiki/ApplicationCatalog2006 > http://maemo.org/maemowiki/OS2007_Tested_Applications > So in general I can install mistral and have compatiblity with bora? >> 2. If there are no applications (to speak of) after flashing...why is >> there "Messenger" icon on desktop with many menuitems and no apps >> hooked up to it...is this part of core ui hildon framework? > > Some apps are included in the core firmware that you flash. > Nothing is included with developer firmware that provides apps for this menu though. I didn't flash end-user image but developer image. >> 3. Is the ApplicationManager just gui around apt-get? > > Pretty much. It simplifies things and hides all the useful (but scary) > error output. > >> 4. Why is there no mention of root password for n800. I couldn't use >> apt-get due to not being root and got warning message about same. Is >> the intent that developers only be "root" on sdk machine where they >> build apps for deploy to device? And that on device you should just >> use Application Manager? >> >> I think Nokia dev docs are missing section after flashing on >> "root/user" accounts and passwords. I found in older maemo2 docs the >> concept of these 2 user accounts. > > The root account is not accessed in the traditional way. Installing > the "becomeroot" package and then typing 'sudo gainroot' in the xterm > will get you there though. > > There is a way by using the flasher to enable R&D mode and then > manually enabling the root account but the gainroot package is way > easier ... provided it works on the n800. > thanks for info >> 5. Upon visiting Maemo garage repository and wanting to download some >> apps...they all seem to have different install instructions and in >> some case no instructions...downloading binary directly to browser. >> >> Is the scheme as follows? If they state is available as DEB package >> then just use ApplicationManager to install from file after >> downloading to deviceotherwise if they give repository fields >> then fill in using ApplicationManager? > > Downloading and Opening the deb file usually works provided there are > no uninstalled debs that it depends on. Installing from an Application > Catalogue will resolve all those dependencies for you. If I understand > correctly, there is another format that is a hybrid of the two. The > .install format will set up the proper Catalogue for you and install > the app and its dependencies. If the .install is available for "bora", > use that one. Some catalogues to try are here: > http://maemo.org/maemowiki/ApplicationRepositories > Only problem with this method of downloading is I only have minimo right now...more stable opera I can't find. > Enjoy your new gadget. > Can do! Enjoying my PP3 too! > /Mike > ___ > maemo-developers mailing list > maemo-developers@maemo.org > https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
[maemo-developers] Questions aftering flashing n800...where is opera?
There seem to be numerous applications for maemo and I can't figure out how/where to easily load them. I'm not too familiar with maemo repositories/syntax or debian commands (used mostly rpm from redhat). All that is present after flashing is xterm, gnu helloworld and some other app which escapes me at the moment. 1. Shouldn't Application Manager allow me to download original applications that came with device? (opera, etc.). How do I go about at least adding Opera and GoogleTalk application. Do I need to build these in sdk and deploy to device or can I do direct download? What are targets I need to specify or url of docs for this? 2. If there are no applications (to speak of) after flashing...why is there "Messenger" icon on desktop with many menuitems and no apps hooked up to it...is this part of core ui hildon framework? 3. Is the ApplicationManager just gui around apt-get? 4. Why is there no mention of root password for n800. I couldn't use apt-get due to not being root and got warning message about same. Is the intent that developers only be "root" on sdk machine where they build apps for deploy to device? And that on device you should just use Application Manager? I think Nokia dev docs are missing section after flashing on "root/user" accounts and passwords. I found in older maemo2 docs the concept of these 2 user accounts. 5. Upon visiting Maemo garage repository and wanting to download some apps...they all seem to have different install instructions and in some case no instructions...downloading binary directly to browser. Is the scheme as follows? If they state is available as DEB package then just use ApplicationManager to install from file after downloading to deviceotherwise if they give repository fields then fill in using ApplicationManager? * *Applet CPU/Mem/Screenshot applet* o Status: Works fine o How to install: from repository [WWW] http://repository.maemo.org/extras with Application Manager Take the above example (applet cpu). It says to use ApplicationManager to install applet...yet I never saw this app as download option even before I flashed N800. Trying to add above url to ApplicationManager manually fails during update with no message shown. It seems many application in garage don't fully specify repository fields correctly for inclusion in Application Manager. Some don't list certain fields, etc. ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
