Re: [maemo-developers] Adding swapon/off to Jakub's Load-Plugin applet

2006-02-28 Thread Armin M. Warda
  Hi,

sorry for this problem. I will integrate your patch asap and build a 
new package. Thanks!

  Armin.

On Monday 27 February 2006 23:20, you wrote:
 Hi,

 I tried your version of the Load-Plugin applet. Unfortunately it
 makes de device reboot everytime I click on the applet. I could
 repeat the problem inside scratchbox. After going through the
 source, I found out that the problem is swapname not being
 initialized the first time. Here's a small patch to make it work.

 diff -Naur loadapplet-aw/load-plugin.c
 loadapplet-henry/load-plugin.c --- loadapplet-aw/load-plugin.c
 2006-02-28 00:32:41.0 +0100 +++
 loadapplet-henry/load-plugin.c  2006-02-27 22:50:01.0
 +0100 @@ -536,7 +536,7 @@
  gtk_menu_shell_append(GTK_MENU_SHELL(info-menu),
  info-menu_separator);
 /* Swap */
 -   if (strncmp(swapname, , 1) != 0) {
 +   if (swapname  strncmp(swapname, , 1) != 0) {
   if (swapisactive())
 sprintf(label, swapoff %s (%d MB used), swapname,
 (swapused+512)/1024);
   else

 Regards,

 Henry

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Re: [maemo-developers] Adding swapon/off to Jakub's Load-Plugin applet

2006-02-28 Thread Stefan Kost

hi,

instead of

if (swapname  strncmp(swapname, , 1) != 0) {

just write

if (swapname  *swapname) {

Stefan

Henry Tan1g wrote:

Hi,

I tried your version of the Load-Plugin applet. Unfortunately it makes 
de device reboot everytime I click on the applet. I could repeat the 
problem inside scratchbox. After going through the source, I found out 
that the problem is swapname not being initialized the first time. 
Here's a small patch to make it work.


diff -Naur loadapplet-aw/load-plugin.c loadapplet-henry/load-plugin.c
--- loadapplet-aw/load-plugin.c 2006-02-28 00:32:41.0 +0100
+++ loadapplet-henry/load-plugin.c  2006-02-27 22:50: 01.0 +0100
@@ -536,7 +536,7 @@
 gtk_menu_shell_append(GTK_MENU_SHELL(info-menu),
 info-menu_separator);
/* Swap */
-   if (strncmp(swapname, , 1) != 0) {
+   if (swapname  strncmp(swapname, , 1) != 0) {
  if (swapisactive())
sprintf(label, swapoff %s (%d MB used), swapname, 
(swapused+512)/1024);

  else

Regards,

Henry




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Re: [maemo-developers] Adding swapon/off to Jakub's Load-Plugin applet

2006-02-28 Thread Armin M. Warda
  Hi, 

I fixed the stupid 'swapname == NULL' bug of 0.2.7-1, that happened 
when the icon was clicked the 1st time on any device, which did not 
have 0.2.6-1 installed previously:

http://www.arminwarda.mynetcologne.de/load-plugin-aw_0.2.7-2_arm.deb
http://www.arminwarda.mynetcologne.de/load-plugin-aw_0.2.7-2.tar.gz
http://www.arminwarda.mynetcologne.de/patch5

  Armin.

On Tuesday 28 February 2006 10:48, Armin M. Warda wrote:
   Hi,

 sorry for this problem. I will integrate your patch asap and build
 a new package. Thanks!

   Armin.

 On Monday 27 February 2006 23:20, you wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I tried your version of the Load-Plugin applet. Unfortunately it
  makes de device reboot everytime I click on the applet. I could
  repeat the problem inside scratchbox. After going through the
  source, I found out that the problem is swapname not being
  initialized the first time. Here's a small patch to make it work.
 
  diff -Naur loadapplet-aw/load-plugin.c
  loadapplet-henry/load-plugin.c --- loadapplet-aw/load-plugin.c
  2006-02-28 00:32:41.0 +0100 +++
  loadapplet-henry/load-plugin.c  2006-02-27 22:50:01.0
  +0100 @@ -536,7 +536,7 @@
   gtk_menu_shell_append(GTK_MENU_SHELL(info-menu),
   info-menu_separator);
  /* Swap */
  -   if (strncmp(swapname, , 1) != 0) {
  +   if (swapname  strncmp(swapname, , 1) != 0) {
if (swapisactive())
  sprintf(label, swapoff %s (%d MB used), swapname,
  (swapused+512)/1024);
else
 
  Regards,
 
  Henry
On Tuesday 28 February 2006 11:11, Stefan Kost wrote:
 hi,

 instead of

 if (swapname  strncmp(swapname, , 1) != 0) {

 just write

 if (swapname  *swapname) {

 Stefan

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Re: [maemo-developers] Adding swapon/off to Jakub's Load-Plugin applet

2006-02-27 Thread Henry Tang
Hi,I tried your version of the Load-Plugin applet. Unfortunately it makes de device reboot everytime I click on the applet. I could repeat the problem inside scratchbox. After going through the source, I found out that the problem is swapname not being initialized the first time. Here's a small patch to make it work.
diff -Naur loadapplet-aw/load-plugin.c loadapplet-henry/load-plugin.c 
--- loadapplet-aw/load-plugin.c 2006-02-28 00:32:41.0 +0100+++ loadapplet-henry/load-plugin.c 2006-02-27 22:50:
01.0 +0100@@ -536,7 +536,7 @@
 gtk_menu_shell_append(GTK_MENU_SHELL(info-menu), info-menu_separator);
 /* Swap */
- if (strncmp(swapname, , 1) != 0) {+ if (swapname  strncmp(swapname, , 1) != 0) {
 if (swapisactive())
 sprintf(label, swapoff %s (%d MB used), swapname, (swapused+512)/1024); else
Regards,Henry
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Re: [maemo-developers] Adding swapon/off to Jakub's Load-Plugin applet

2006-02-26 Thread Armin M. Warda
  Hi,

some minor enhancements to my version of Jakub's Load-Plugin applet:

http://www.arminwarda.mynetcologne.de/load-plugin-aw_0.2.7-1_arm.deb
http://www.arminwarda.mynetcologne.de/load-plugin-aw_0.2.7-1.tar.gz
http://www.arminwarda.mynetcologne.de/patch4

Changes in the new version:
- no swapon/off menu-entry if no swap configured (swapname is empty)
- OK/Cancel confirmation-box after swapon/off menu-entry is selected

Remember, you have to add the following line to /etc/sudoers manually:
user ALL = NOPASSWD: /sbin/swapon *, /sbin/swapoff *

Do you think the Load-Plugin applet with swapon/off is now 
end-user-ready and should be linked to from the Maemo 
ApplicationCatalog Wiki?

  regards, Armin.

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Re: [maemo-developers] Adding swapon/off to Jakub's Load-Plugin applet

2006-02-24 Thread Heike C. Zimmerer
David D. Hagood [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Koen Kooi wrote:

 Please tell me I'm reading this wrong: 'swap file on the internal
 flash'. You do know that flash is broken after ~100k writes/cell, right?
 And you know that will break your 770, right?
 

 I think you are living in the past. Modern flash chips have a write 
 endurance of greater than a million cycles.

You're sure?  Maybe I'm not up to date, but I remember figures in the
order of typically around 100,000 or even as low as 10,000, depending
of the kind of write cycle (like MLC) for today's standard devices.  A
pointer to the data of the device actually used by the 770 would be
much appreciated.

 Also, wear leveling means 
 that even if you repeatedly write to the same logical sector number a 
 million times, you will NOT have written to any one flash location over 
 a million times. Life cycle endurance is not a reason not to use 
 internal flash as swap.

Again, maybe I'm not up to date: isn't wear leveling only effective if
there's enough room left on your flash which gets freed from time to
time?  IOW, the more static data there is on a flash (like programs
and fixed data), the less is gained from any leveling algorithm?


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Re: [maemo-developers] Adding swapon/off to Jakub's Load-Plugin applet - deb-package

2006-02-24 Thread Armin M. Warda
  Hi,

if you are crazy enough to try my changes, that nobody besides 
me has tested yet, and that could ruin your device, you can 
download and install the modified Load-Plugin applet her:

http://www.arminwarda.mynetcologne.de/load-plugin_0.2.5-1_arm.deb

You have been warned!

  Armin.

On Thursday 23 February 2006 23:00, Armin M. Warda wrote:
   Hi,

 attached you find three patches for Jakub's Load-Plugin applet.
 I applied these changes to the source code downloaded from:

 http://koti.welho.com/jpavelek/tmp/770/load-plugin_0.2.5-1.tar.gz

 My code-changes are split into three incremental steps to make it
 easier to understand (and improve ;-) them:

 - patch1 adds a 'swapfile' configuration string to the settings
 menu. - patch2 makes all configuration settings persistent via
 gconf. - patch3 adds the swapon/off menu-entry and logic.

 The Load-Plugin runs as 'user', swapon and swapoff need 'root',
 thus you have to add the following line to /etc/sudoers manually:
 user ALL = NOPASSWD: /sbin/swapon *, /sbin/swapoff *

 Hopefully my changes are picked up, cleaned up, tested, and make it
 into the next main release.

 (Btw., I dropped auto-discovery of active swaps, because I think
 there is no need to auto-activate a swap on reboot via /etc/rc2.d/
 anymore, when swapon/off is just one click away...)

   Armin.

 P.S.: With 'dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot' - how can I make sure the
 produced shared object is 'stripped' before packaging occurs?

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Re: [maemo-developers] Adding swapon/off to Jakub's Load-Plugin applet - deb-package

2006-02-24 Thread Tapani Pälli
ext Armin M. Warda wrote:

  Hi,

if you are crazy enough to try my changes, that nobody besides 
me has tested yet, and that could ruin your device, you can 
download and install the modified Load-Plugin applet her:

http://www.arminwarda.mynetcologne.de/load-plugin_0.2.5-1_arm.deb

  

Please modify your version to something else because the package differs
from original 0.2.5-1 ..

You have been warned!

  

You too :-)

  Armin.

  

// Tapani

On Thursday 23 February 2006 23:00, Armin M. Warda wrote:
  

  Hi,

attached you find three patches for Jakub's Load-Plugin applet.
I applied these changes to the source code downloaded from:

http://koti.welho.com/jpavelek/tmp/770/load-plugin_0.2.5-1.tar.gz

My code-changes are split into three incremental steps to make it
easier to understand (and improve ;-) them:

- patch1 adds a 'swapfile' configuration string to the settings
menu. - patch2 makes all configuration settings persistent via
gconf. - patch3 adds the swapon/off menu-entry and logic.

The Load-Plugin runs as 'user', swapon and swapoff need 'root',
thus you have to add the following line to /etc/sudoers manually:
user ALL = NOPASSWD: /sbin/swapon *, /sbin/swapoff *

Hopefully my changes are picked up, cleaned up, tested, and make it
into the next main release.

(Btw., I dropped auto-discovery of active swaps, because I think
there is no need to auto-activate a swap on reboot via /etc/rc2.d/
anymore, when swapon/off is just one click away...)

  Armin.

P.S.: With 'dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot' - how can I make sure the
produced shared object is 'stripped' before packaging occurs?



  



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Re: [maemo-developers] Adding swapon/off to Jakub's Load-Plugin applet

2006-02-24 Thread Dave Neuer
On 2/23/06, David D. Hagood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Koen Kooi wrote:

  Please tell me I'm reading this wrong: 'swap file on the internal
  flash'. You do know that flash is broken after ~100k writes/cell, right?
  And you know that will break your 770, right?
 
 

 I think you are living in the past. Modern flash chips have a write
 endurance of greater than a million cycles. Also, wear leveling means
 that even if you repeatedly write to the same logical sector number a
 million times, you will NOT have written to any one flash location over
 a million times. Life cycle endurance is not a reason not to use
 internal flash as swap.

 Now, the fact that internal flash is a very limited resource and is not
 expandable, as is external flash - that is a reason not to use internal
 flash for swap.

Wear leveling on the internal flash depends on FS (i.e., software)
support, doesn't it? I wonder what the performance overhead of that
is, and also the stability of the swap + JFFS2 path vs. the swap +
swap partition path (of course, my ignorance of the swap code shows
here; my big assumption is that in the case of a swap partition, the
swap code goes straight from memory to blocks on a block device,
skipping the FS layer altogether).

Wear leveling on MMC is done by the hardware, isn't it? So we're
really talking about the difference between swapping to a file on a
JFFS2 fs on internal flash vs. swapping to a swap partition on MMC?

I really think for most people, the decision is really more of a
commodity hardware vs. non-commodity hardware one. I.e., can you
more afford to replace a non-standard part (the 770, or the internal
flash of the 770) or a standard part (mmc card) in the event that
something goes wrong.

Dave
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Re: [maemo-developers] Adding swapon/off to Jakub's Load-Plugin applet - deb-package

2006-02-24 Thread Armin M. Warda
On Friday 24 February 2006 11:33, Tapani Pälli wrote:
 Please modify your version to something else because
 the package differs from original 0.2.5-1 ..

Can you tell me how I can do it?

I would like to rename it to 'load-plugin-aw-0.2.6-1'.

  Armin.

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Re: [maemo-developers] Adding swapon/off to Jakub's Load-Plugin applet - deb-package

2006-02-24 Thread Eduardo de Barros Lima
On 2/24/06, Armin M. Warda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Can you tell me how I can do it?

 I would like to rename it to 'load-plugin-aw-0.2.6-1'.

Just edit your changelog file located inside the 'debian' directory.

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Re: [maemo-developers] Adding swapon/off to Jakub's Load-Plugin applet - deb-package

2006-02-24 Thread Armin M. Warda
  Hi,

it took some more files to modify besides the changelog, 
but I think I finally succeeded to fork Jakub's release:

http://www.arminwarda.mynetcologne.de/load-plugin-aw_0.2.6-1_arm.deb
http://www.arminwarda.mynetcologne.de/load-plugin-aw_0.2.6-1.tar.gz 

I posted the patches earlier on this list, still hope that Jakub
will pick  clean them up and continue to maintain the package.

Please remember, this modified Load-Plugin applet has only 
been tested by me and could ruin your device. Be careful.
I will not add the modified Load-Plugin applet to the Maemo 
ApplicationCatalog Wiki until at least some positive test reports 
have been posted here.

  Armin.

On Friday 24 February 2006 16:43, I wrote:
 On Friday 24 February 2006 11:33, Tapani Pälli wrote:
  Please modify your version to something else because
  the package differs from original 0.2.5-1 ..

 Can you tell me how I can do it?

 I would like to rename it to 'load-plugin-aw-0.2.6-1'.

On Friday 24 February 2006 17:34, Eduardo de Barros Lima wrote:
 Just edit your changelog file located inside the 'debian'
 directory.

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Re: [maemo-developers] Adding swapon/off to Jakub's Load-Plugin applet

2006-02-23 Thread Armin M. Warda
On Thursday 23 February 2006 01:34, David D. Hagood wrote:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Any suggestions?
 
  How about hooking swapoff to the hotplug event for the MMC card
  cover opening? Maybe even insertion also.

Yes, I really would like to try this, but I do not know how this has 
to be done. Can anybody lend me a hand? (Of cause I would make 
this feature optional, with an enable/disable checkbox in the 
settings.)

 Yes, *please* hook the cover open/cover close events and
 enable/disable swap as appropriate.

But this will only make sense for a swap living on the RS-MMC.
If you are running with a swap file on the internal flash,
you would not want to swapoff when the RS-MMC lid is opened...

Do you think, detection of the prefix /dev/mmcblk0 for a swap device -
or /media/mmc1/ for a swap file - in /proc/swaps, is good enough to 
conclude, that the swap lives on the RS-MMC? Is absense of these 
prefixes good enough to conclude, that the swap down _not_ live on 
the RS-MMC?

 Also, please scan not just for swap files, but also for swap
 partitions -

Yes, via /proc/swaps I autodetect an active swap-file or -device, 
if none has been configured in the Load-Plugin applet settings. 

 I prefer to have a swap partition

Me too, I use /dev/mmcblk0p2 - I repartitioned the RS-MMC with two
partitions: mmcblk0p1 with 480MB FAT and mmcblk0p2 with 30 MB swap.
USB-plugging the N770 to the PC only umounts the 1st partition,
the swap on the seconds remains available.

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Re: [maemo-developers] Adding swapon/off to Jakub's Load-Plugin applet

2006-02-23 Thread Kimmo Hämäläinen
On Thu, 2006-02-23 at 15:01, ext Armin M. Warda wrote:
 On Thursday 23 February 2006 01:34, David D. Hagood wrote:
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Any suggestions?
  
   How about hooking swapoff to the hotplug event for the MMC card
   cover opening? Maybe even insertion also.
 
 Yes, I really would like to try this, but I do not know how this has 
 to be done. Can anybody lend me a hand? (Of cause I would make 
 this feature optional, with an enable/disable checkbox in the 
 settings.)

The easiest way is probably to use the GConf key
/system/osso/af/mmc-cover-open that is updated then the MMC cover is
opened and closed. GConf allows you to be notified when the value of the
key changes.

BR; Kimmo

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Re: [maemo-developers] Adding swapon/off to Jakub's Load-Plugin applet

2006-02-23 Thread Koen Kooi
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Armin M. Warda wrote:
 On Thursday 23 February 2006 01:34, David D. Hagood wrote:
 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Any suggestions?

How about hooking swapoff to the hotplug event for the MMC card
cover opening? Maybe even insertion also.
 
 
 Yes, I really would like to try this, but I do not know how this has 
 to be done. Can anybody lend me a hand? (Of cause I would make 
 this feature optional, with an enable/disable checkbox in the 
 settings.)
 
 
Yes, *please* hook the cover open/cover close events and
enable/disable swap as appropriate.
 
 
 But this will only make sense for a swap living on the RS-MMC.
 If you are running with a swap file on the internal flash,
 you would not want to swapoff when the RS-MMC lid is opened...

Please tell me I'm reading this wrong: 'swap file on the internal
flash'. You do know that flash is broken after ~100k writes/cell, right?
And you know that will break your 770, right?

regards,

Koen
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Re: [maemo-developers] Adding swapon/off to Jakub's Load-Plugin applet

2006-02-23 Thread Kimmo Hämäläinen
On Thu, 2006-02-23 at 15:51, ext Jonathan Matthews-Levine wrote:
 On 2/23/06, Kimmo Hämäläinen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Thu, 2006-02-23 at 15:01, ext Armin M. Warda wrote:
   On Thursday 23 February 2006 01:34, David D. Hagood wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Any suggestions?

 How about hooking swapoff to the hotplug event for the MMC card
 cover opening? Maybe even insertion also.
  
   Yes, I really would like to try this, but I do not know how this has
   to be done. Can anybody lend me a hand? (Of cause I would make
   this feature optional, with an enable/disable checkbox in the
   settings.)
 
  The easiest way is probably to use the GConf key
  /system/osso/af/mmc-cover-open that is updated then the MMC cover is
  opened and closed. GConf allows you to be notified when the value of the
  key changes.
 
 Shirley there's an issue where the swapoff operation takes longer
 than the physical open cover // remove MMC operation?

Yes, and if there is not enough RAM to swapoff, it will probably crash
some applications and daemons (even the kernel?), causing a reboot...

BR, Kimmo

 With an explicit toolbar click, at least you can put up an immediate
 prompt saying don't remove the MMC! and replace it with Finished!
 when the swapoff has completed ...
 
 Cheers,
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Re: [maemo-developers] Adding swapon/off to Jakub's Load-Plugin applet

2006-02-22 Thread alterego

 Any suggestions?
 

How about hooking swapoff to the hotplug event for the MMC card cover 
opening? Maybe even insertion also.

  - Thomas Swindell
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Re: [maemo-developers] Adding swapon/off to Jakub's Load-Plugin applet

2006-02-22 Thread David D. Hagood

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Any suggestions?



How about hooking swapoff to the hotplug event for the MMC card cover 
opening? Maybe even insertion also.




Yes, *please* hook the cover open/cover close events and enable/disable 
swap as appropriate.


Also, please scan not just for swap files, but also for swap partitions 
- I prefer to have a swap partition since the time the FAT file system 
on the card got corrupted and trying to swap to the swap file was, let 
us say, rather ugly.

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