Re: [maemo-developers] FLTK

2005-06-23 Thread Kalle Vahlman
On 6/23/05, Chris Warren-Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  It looks like FLTK apps could be fully integrated if either - 1. the hildon
 UI code was available and
  ported to use FLTK or 2, FLTK was ported to use GTK+ as the underlying
 system. (like 
  wxGTK+) 
  
  Does any of this sound feasable?

I wonder why one would want to bolt a toolkit on top of another one?
Does FLTK have some overly fantastic widgets that Gtk is missing?
  
FLTK is Fast Light ToolKit, making it use Gtk sounds like it
wouldn't be too Light anymore.

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Re: [maemo-developers] FLTK

2005-06-23 Thread Jose Manrique Lopez de la Fuente
2005/6/23, Kalle Vahlman [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 I wonder why one would want to bolt a toolkit on top of another one?
 Does FLTK have some overly fantastic widgets that Gtk is missing?

I think that main advantage of FLTK is the 'L? in its name: Light. The
fltklib could be 1 to 2 MB I think, so it has been used in some
embedded projects before as GUI tool kit, like Pixil [1]

As you can see in the fltk shots[2] there is a GUI designer, called
Fluid, and a lot of widgets. It is designed for C++ programming.

Do we really need another GUI environment in such device? That's the
question. My first answer would be we don't need it, but I think that
programmers could compile it easily for arm (it is already available)
and use it and distribute it with their apps. That's freedom.

Best regards,

[1] http://www.pixil.org/screenshots.php
[2] http://www.fltk.org/shots.php

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Re: [maemo-developers] FLTK

2005-06-23 Thread Kalle Vahlman
On 6/23/05, Jose Manrique Lopez de la Fuente [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 2005/6/23, Kalle Vahlman [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  I wonder why one would want to bolt a toolkit on top of another one?
  Does FLTK have some overly fantastic widgets that Gtk is missing?
 
 I think that main advantage of FLTK is the 'L? in its name: Light.

Yes, and as I pointed out, if it's ported to use gtk it won't be just that.

 Do we really need another GUI environment in such device? That's the
 question.

Well, you'd have to rewrite the whole UI if you want to take advantage
of FLTK, since the UI is all gtk.

So to use FLTK, install the rootstrap, remove any gtk-related packages
and start porting/coding :)

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Re: [maemo-developers] FLTK

2005-06-23 Thread Chris Warren-Smith
On 6/23/05, Jose Manrique Lopez de la Fuente [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 2005/6/23, Kalle Vahlman [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  I wonder why one would want to bolt a toolkit on top of another one?
  Does FLTK have some overly fantastic widgets that Gtk is missing?

 I think that main advantage of FLTK is the 'L? in its name: Light.

Yes, and as I pointed out, if it's ported to use gtk it won't be just that.
 Do we really need another GUI environment in such device? That's the
 question.
Well, you'd have to rewrite the whole UI if you want to take advantage
of FLTK, since the UI is all gtk.
So to use FLTK, install the rootstrap, remove any gtk-related packages
and start porting/coding :)

FLTK has its own UI and the demo fltk apps that I tried looked pretty
nice in the scatchbox environment. At a minimun it would really just need
a way to integrate the application icon to be usable.
Calling gtk routines from a fltk app would only increase the exe size if 
they were statically linked. 
Could someone please provide a link to the hildon code (is it available?)
so I can investigate this further. 
Thanks
Chris




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[maemo-developers] FLTK

2005-06-22 Thread Chris Warren-Smith
Hi, 
I tried building FLTK r2 (www.fltk.org) in the maemo scratchbox and the demo's seemedto run ok.

The menus and application icon obviously didn't integrate with the system. When maemopad 
was activated there didn't seem to be any way to switch back to the running fltk sample app. 

It looks like FLTK apps could be fully integrated if either - 1. the hildon UI code was available and
ported to use FLTK or 2, FLTK was ported to use GTK+ as the underlying system. (like 
wxGTK+) 

Does any of this sound feasable?

Regards,
Chris

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