Re: [maemo-developers] Sources and documentation
I know If I rebuild all from the source that I wont have Opera. Is there anything else besides Opera that is not at the repositories? Thanks -bob Tommi Komulainen wrote: On Mon, 2006-08-28 at 16:24 -0300, ext Alessandro Ikeuchi wrote: Bah... My future features are more realistic: -source codes; https://stage.maemo.org/svn/maemo/projects/haf/trunk/ http://repository.maemo.org/pool/mistral/ http://repository.maemo.org/pool/sardine/ You can also request the source codes on CD-ROM as per GPL. The offer naturally only covers the software that is not proprietary. I am not going argue with rants about whether $proprietary_application should or is going to be open sourced or not. Today things are the way they are. However if you could provide constructive comments about how open sourcing more (and which specifically) things would benefit Nokia (this is not free as in beer for us I'm afraid) I'm sure the discussion would be more fruitful. -more reliable API docs; -more reliable SDK docs; How are they not reliable? Missing something? What? Inaccurate? Where? Again, constructive comment are more likely to get something done. You could for example file bugs in https://maemo.org/bugzilla/ or add notes to http://maemo.org/maemowiki/DocumentationWanted . We can't work on the problems if we don't know what the real problems are. Please keep in mind that this is the first time Nokia has done open source on this scale. We're still taking baby steps. But we're willing to learn, and feedback from the community is appreciated. Unfortunately rants are rarely helping. What comes to console applications and such, I'd say that's subjective. I just can't see the market for such device these days (everyone wants flashy eye candy), but then again, I'm just a technical person so what do I know. We know about your concerns regarding Ogg (and probably BT and GStreamer as well -- I should probably poke the people in charge.) More often than not there are good reasons (priorities, resources, cost/benefit, ...) for these things, we're not doing this to spite you. It's just that some things are difficult to communicate outside, for whatever reason. ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] Sources and documentation
On Tue, Aug 29, 2006 at 07:38:16AM -0400, Bob Herrmann wrote: > I know If I rebuild all from the source that I wont have Opera. Is > there anything else besides Opera that is not at the repositories? As far as I can tell *all* of the standard apps (clock, calculator, notes, audio player, all the games, etc.) are closed-source. At least I cannot find them in http://repository.maemo.org/dists/mistral/free/source/Sources Marius Gedminas -- If something has not yet gone wrong then it would ultimately have been beneficial for it to go wrong. signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
[maemo-developers] Sources and documentation (was: Future features for Maemo Desktop)
On Mon, 2006-08-28 at 16:24 -0300, ext Alessandro Ikeuchi wrote: > Bah... > My future features are more realistic: > -source codes; https://stage.maemo.org/svn/maemo/projects/haf/trunk/ http://repository.maemo.org/pool/mistral/ http://repository.maemo.org/pool/sardine/ You can also request the source codes on CD-ROM as per GPL. The offer naturally only covers the software that is not proprietary. I am not going argue with rants about whether $proprietary_application should or is going to be open sourced or not. Today things are the way they are. However if you could provide constructive comments about how open sourcing more (and which specifically) things would benefit Nokia (this is not free as in beer for us I'm afraid) I'm sure the discussion would be more fruitful. > -more reliable API docs; > -more reliable SDK docs; How are they not reliable? Missing something? What? Inaccurate? Where? Again, constructive comment are more likely to get something done. You could for example file bugs in https://maemo.org/bugzilla/ or add notes to http://maemo.org/maemowiki/DocumentationWanted . We can't work on the problems if we don't know what the real problems are. Please keep in mind that this is the first time Nokia has done open source on this scale. We're still taking baby steps. But we're willing to learn, and feedback from the community is appreciated. Unfortunately rants are rarely helping. What comes to console applications and such, I'd say that's subjective. I just can't see the market for such device these days (everyone wants flashy eye candy), but then again, I'm just a technical person so what do I know. We know about your concerns regarding Ogg (and probably BT and GStreamer as well -- I should probably poke the people in charge.) More often than not there are good reasons (priorities, resources, cost/benefit, ...) for these things, we're not doing this to spite you. It's just that some things are difficult to communicate outside, for whatever reason. -- Tommi Komulainen<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers