Re: [maemo-developers] n800 camera specs
Hi! On 1/16/07, Peter Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Camera is vga. So that means 640 x 480. That is correct! However don't expect a good framerate when using VGA resolution since the camera is meant for videocalls. Use CIF (352x288) or QCIF (176,144) if you want an acceptable (~15) fps. -- Regards, Zeeshan Ali Design Engineer, SW Open Source Software Operations Nokia Multimedia ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] n800 camera specs
On mån, 2007-01-15 at 11:50 -0800, ext Ty Hoffman wrote: Y'all, I haven't seen any specs on the n800 camera (resolution, etc.). Can anybody point me in the right direction? Thanks. Oh, and for what it's worth, I'm now getting annoyed with the speed of the n800 developer discount program...I want to buy an 800, but of course would like to know if I'm one of the chosen ones for the discount. Don't want to buy one and then get the 'you're a winner!' email. I don't like to complain, because I know it's probably tough to manage a discount program and be fair, but a little more alacrity would be good. Meanwhile I'll just sit here on my hands for a few days more before I make the drive to CompUSA. Any ETA out there?? Yeah, I understand how annoying it is that it has been a whole week (gasp!) since the product launch without any decisions on what developers will be picked for the developer discount program. Oh and woes if it would take another week or two. Maybe not *all* virtues are lost, but patience certainly seem to be dead and buried. On a more serious note: the reason this is taking time is simple: we've spent enormous amounts of energy on getting the N800 out in time in the first place. We simply haven't had any time to focus on the developer discount program, since it did not have a firm deadline; CES did... Regards: David Weinehall ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] n800 camera specs
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 David Weinehall schreef: On mån, 2007-01-15 at 11:50 -0800, ext Ty Hoffman wrote: Y'all, I haven't seen any specs on the n800 camera (resolution, etc.). Can anybody point me in the right direction? Thanks. Oh, and for what it's worth, I'm now getting annoyed with the speed of the n800 developer discount program...I want to buy an 800, but of course would like to know if I'm one of the chosen ones for the discount. Don't want to buy one and then get the 'you're a winner!' email. I don't like to complain, because I know it's probably tough to manage a discount program and be fair, but a little more alacrity would be good. Meanwhile I'll just sit here on my hands for a few days more before I make the drive to CompUSA. Any ETA out there?? Yeah, I understand how annoying it is that it has been a whole week (gasp!) since the product launch without any decisions on what developers will be picked for the developer discount program. Oh and woes if it would take another week or two. Maybe not *all* virtues are lost, but patience certainly seem to be dead and buried. On a more serious note: the reason this is taking time is simple: we've spent enormous amounts of energy on getting the N800 out in time in the first place. We simply haven't had any time to focus on the developer discount program, since it did not have a firm deadline; CES did... I take nokia is going to refund the €300/$300 price difference for people that bought an n800 already but are going to be in the dev program? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (Darwin) iD8DBQFFrMitMkyGM64RGpERAl+UAKCUqTA7z5/FznOJQVGEyrOXlNPaRQCgjFC8 M9O5bo8qVWcSDv2pM2V7i/8= =LKbj -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] n800 camera specs
On tis, 2007-01-16 at 13:44 +0100, ext Koen Kooi wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 David Weinehall schreef: On mån, 2007-01-15 at 11:50 -0800, ext Ty Hoffman wrote: Y'all, I haven't seen any specs on the n800 camera (resolution, etc.). Can anybody point me in the right direction? Thanks. Oh, and for what it's worth, I'm now getting annoyed with the speed of the n800 developer discount program...I want to buy an 800, but of course would like to know if I'm one of the chosen ones for the discount. Don't want to buy one and then get the 'you're a winner!' email. I don't like to complain, because I know it's probably tough to manage a discount program and be fair, but a little more alacrity would be good. Meanwhile I'll just sit here on my hands for a few days more before I make the drive to CompUSA. Any ETA out there?? Yeah, I understand how annoying it is that it has been a whole week (gasp!) since the product launch without any decisions on what developers will be picked for the developer discount program. Oh and woes if it would take another week or two. Maybe not *all* virtues are lost, but patience certainly seem to be dead and buried. On a more serious note: the reason this is taking time is simple: we've spent enormous amounts of energy on getting the N800 out in time in the first place. We simply haven't had any time to focus on the developer discount program, since it did not have a firm deadline; CES did... I take nokia is going to refund the €300/$300 price difference for people that bought an n800 already but are going to be in the dev program? I have no idea... Regards: David ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] n800 camera specs
Zeeshan Ali wrote: Hi! On 1/16/07, Peter Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Camera is vga. So that means 640 x 480. That is correct! However don't expect a good framerate when using VGA resolution since the camera is meant for videocalls. Use CIF (352x288) or QCIF (176,144) if you want an acceptable (~15) fps. Thanks for the info! ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] n800 camera specs
On 1/16/07, Zeeshan Ali [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! On 1/16/07, Peter Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Camera is vga. So that means 640 x 480. That is correct! However don't expect a good framerate when using VGA resolution since the camera is meant for videocalls. Use CIF (352x288) or QCIF (176,144) if you want an acceptable (~15) fps. Has anyone done any testing to see what the max [EMAIL PROTECTED] is? Is the bottleneck with the internal memory bandwidth or CPU speed. Also, is it accessible as a v4l2 device so that other apps can be easily written to use it? /Mike ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] n800 camera specs
David Weinehall wrote: On mån, 2007-01-15 at 11:50 -0800, ext Ty Hoffman wrote: Y'all, I haven't seen any specs on the n800 camera (resolution, etc.). Can anybody point me in the right direction? Thanks. Oh, and for what it's worth, I'm now getting annoyed with the speed of the n800 developer discount program...I want to buy an 800, but of course would like to know if I'm one of the chosen ones for the discount. Don't want to buy one and then get the 'you're a winner!' email. I don't like to complain, because I know it's probably tough to manage a discount program and be fair, but a little more alacrity would be good. Meanwhile I'll just sit here on my hands for a few days more before I make the drive to CompUSA. Any ETA out there?? Yeah, I understand how annoying it is that it has been a whole week (gasp!) since the product launch without any decisions on what developers will be picked for the developer discount program. Oh and woes if it would take another week or two. Maybe not *all* virtues are lost, but patience certainly seem to be dead and buried. On a more serious note: the reason this is taking time is simple: we've spent enormous amounts of energy on getting the N800 out in time in the first place. We simply haven't had any time to focus on the developer discount program, since it did not have a firm deadline; CES did... Regards: David Weinehall Well, David, I tried to be as nice as possible with my comment about the wait, which is why I said I understand it's not easy to manage a program like this, and get it going. So I'm thinking that the (gasp!) crap is uncalled for. Again, I know it's a tough thing to find the time. I also am sure that it would not have been difficult to decide on and publish a date saying 'notifications will be sent out by date', so that everything is not a riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma. --Ty ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] n800 camera specs
I take nokia is going to refund the €300/$300 price difference for people that bought an n800 already but are going to be in the dev program? Wow, that's a wonderfully well developed sense of entitlement you've got there. ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] n800 camera specs
On 16 Jan 2007, at 18:27, Ty Hoffman wrote: Well, David, I tried to be as nice as possible with my comment about the wait, which is why I said I understand it's not easy to manage a program like this, and get it going. So I'm thinking that the (gasp!) crap is uncalled for. Again, I know it's a tough thing to find the time. I also am sure that it would not have been difficult to decide on and publish a date saying 'notifications will be sent out by date', so that everything is not a riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma. Surely you either need one _now_ for business reasons (in which case you can buy one), or you just want one, in which case whining about how Nokia won't tell you right now whether or when they're going to give you one on the cheap is likely to be counterproductive at best. Christmas was last month. Nokia do need to start taking 'open' seriously if they want this platform to be a true success - just look how many questions on this list are about the closed aspects of the code and how many people there are itching to work on those issues. We need to persuade them to open the source, not complain about how they don't give out enough free hardware. M ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] n800 camera specs
On 1/16/07, Matt Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I take nokia is going to refund the €300/$300 price difference for people that bought an n800 already but are going to be in the dev program? Wow, that's a wonderfully well developed sense of entitlement you've got there. Getting beyond the easily misinterpreted intentions of mailing list participants, he does have a very good idea. If Nokia just sends 500 worthy developers mail-in rebates for store-bought n800's then there is no issue of waiting anymore. It is probably the easiest thing to handle logistically on Nokia's side also. On another note, one beneficial thing that this delay has generated is a lot of developer activity on the 770 as devs fight to get noticed via project updates :] So as a simple user I say, Nokia, delay all you want ;] /Mike ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] n800 camera specs
Michael Wiktowy wrote: On 1/16/07, Matt Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I take nokia is going to refund the €300/$300 price difference for people that bought an n800 already but are going to be in the dev program? Wow, that's a wonderfully well developed sense of entitlement you've got there. Getting beyond the easily misinterpreted intentions of mailing list participants, he does have a very good idea. If Nokia just sends 500 worthy developers mail-in rebates for store-bought n800's then there is no issue of waiting anymore. It is probably the easiest thing to handle logistically on Nokia's side also. On another note, one beneficial thing that this delay has generated is a lot of developer activity on the 770 as devs fight to get noticed via project updates :] So as a simple user I say, Nokia, delay all you want ;] /Mike ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers Yes, I also noticed the flurry of dev projects after the announcement. Interesting. Maybe the whole discount program is just a psychological experiment on motivation and reward, and there are no discounted units. Perhaps it's a first test for the 'bounty' program discussed earlier...(please don't misinterpret my intentions! I'm just kidding!) --Ty ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] n800 camera specs
On Tue, Jan 16, 2007 at 12:18:52PM -0500, ext Michael Wiktowy wrote: Has anyone done any testing to see what the max [EMAIL PROTECTED] is? Is the bottleneck with the internal memory bandwidth or CPU speed. Depends: if you're attempting to display the result on-screen as well, then it greatly drops. Bus bandwidth is generally the limiting factor (memory, DMAing from camera, copying to framebuffer and subsequently to the LCD controller). Also, is it accessible as a v4l2 device so that other apps can be easily written to use it? Yeah, it is. Cheers, Daniel signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
[maemo-developers] n800 camera specs
Y'all, I haven't seen any specs on the n800 camera (resolution, etc.). Can anybody point me in the right direction? Thanks. Oh, and for what it's worth, I'm now getting annoyed with the speed of the n800 developer discount program...I want to buy an 800, but of course would like to know if I'm one of the chosen ones for the discount. Don't want to buy one and then get the 'you're a winner!' email. I don't like to complain, because I know it's probably tough to manage a discount program and be fair, but a little more alacrity would be good. Meanwhile I'll just sit here on my hands for a few days more before I make the drive to CompUSA. Any ETA out there?? --Ty ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] n800 camera specs
Camera is vga. So that means 640 x 480. Peter On 1/15/07, Ty Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Y'all, I haven't seen any specs on the n800 camera (resolution, etc.). Can anybody point me in the right direction? Thanks. Oh, and for what it's worth, I'm now getting annoyed with the speed of the n800 developer discount program...I want to buy an 800, but of course would like to know if I'm one of the chosen ones for the discount. Don't want to buy one and then get the 'you're a winner!' email. I don't like to complain, because I know it's probably tough to manage a discount program and be fair, but a little more alacrity would be good. Meanwhile I'll just sit here on my hands for a few days more before I make the drive to CompUSA. Any ETA out there?? --Ty ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
