Re: ANNOUNCE: Internet Communications Software Update 2 for N800/N810

2008-01-04 Thread Gabriel Schulhof
Hi!

On Fri, 2008-01-04 at 12:31 +0200, ext Naba Kumar wrote:
 ext Felipe Contreras wrote:
  On Jan 3, 2008 2:45 PM, olle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Great news!
 
  Does this mean that pidgin plugins such as OTR
  ref: https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1921
  will work OOTB or perhaps only require some minimal porting?
  
  From what I can see no port is needed, but some manual configuration
  needs to be done.
  
 That's right.

I think there's been a misunderstanding here (possibly on my part).
While libpurple's protocol support is now available via our chat app
THANKS TO TELEPATHY-HAZE, the pidgin-otr package on Maemo extras is
strictly a Pidgin user interface plugin, rather than a protocol plugin.
Thus, a second user interface would have to be written for OTR to work
with an application other than Pidgin.



Gabriel
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Re: ANNOUNCE: Internet Communications Software Update 2 for N800/N810

2008-01-04 Thread Gabriel Schulhof
Sorry ... dunno why that came out all-capped *shrug*
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Re: ANNOUNCE: Internet Communications Software Update 2 for N800/N810

2008-01-04 Thread Naba Kumar
ext Krischan Keitsch wrote:
 Answering my own post: I managed to install ICSU2. :-)
 However I had to download telepathy-salut and telepathy-idle from [1]
 manually and use 'force' ;-) to install these packages.
 My guess would be that these two packages are missing from the repository
 discription ?
 Could the Real Time Communications team @ maemo confirm this? Or is it 
 just my
 installation?
 
As I replied to the original announcement post, you just click the 
installer in http://rtcomm.garage.maemo.org . The link given in 
announcement was outdated hence doesn't work. You shouldn't need to 
install anything manually.

Thanks.

Regards,
-Naba
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Re: ANNOUNCE: Internet Communications Software Update 2 for N800/N810

2008-01-04 Thread Naba Kumar
ext Felipe Contreras wrote:
 On Jan 3, 2008 2:45 PM, olle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Great news!

 Does this mean that pidgin plugins such as OTR
 ref: https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1921
 will work OOTB or perhaps only require some minimal porting?
 
 From what I can see no port is needed, but some manual configuration
 needs to be done.
 
That's right.

As mentioned in http://rtcomm.garage.maemo.org/ page -

Note:You can also create profiles yourself by adding a profile 
description file (.profile) to the directory /usr/share/osso-rtcom/ (See 
existing profiles for an example).

Anyone is welcome to experiment with new profiles. And feel free to give 
that to us for subsequent updates.

Thanks.

Regards,
-Naba
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Re: ANNOUNCE: Internet Communications Software Update 2 for N800/N810

2008-01-04 Thread Naba Kumar
ext Arkady Glazov wrote:
 I try to use IM with ICQ protocol. Sorry, but is not possible becouse
 is wrong to encoding received messages. I live in Russia and most
 popular ICQ clients is Miranda and QIP. Both of them to use by default
 CP1251 encoding, not UTF-8. In Pidgin I can to set default encoding
 methods for account and after them I receive right messagess
 (readably), but with  ICSU2 a see only wrong symbols  :(
 
 Also I can not connect to chat rooms. It take long time and after them
 i only receive error messages.
 
Please file them as bugs in http://bugs.maemo.org/

Thanks.

Regards,
-Naba
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Re: ANNOUNCE: Internet Communications Software Update 2 for N800/N810

2008-01-04 Thread olle
On Fri, Jan 04, 2008 at 01:08:02PM +0200, Gabriel Schulhof wrote:
 
 While libpurple's protocol support is now available via our chat app
 THANKS TO TELEPATHY-HAZE, the pidgin-otr package on Maemo extras is
 strictly a Pidgin user interface plugin, rather than a protocol plugin.

Darn, so we're no closer to OTR support then. I was hoping for a free ride!

 Thus, a second user interface would have to be written for OTR to work
 with an application other than Pidgin.

Not sure what you mean by a second user interface...

IIRC pidgin-otr is based on libotr (http://www.cypherpunks.ca/otr/) so I
guess we're still back to the drawing board with bug 1921 and integration
of libotr within the existing maemo IM/chat framework. Any takers?

/olle
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ANNOUNCE: Internet Communications Software Update 2 for N800/N810

2008-01-03 Thread Naba Kumar
(The first announcement in maemo-developers didn't went through perhaps 
due to moderation. So here is it again).

Hi,

We are happy to announce the release of 'Internet Communications
Software development update 2' for Maemo. This update brings you the
latest developments in Internet messaging and call on Nokia n8x0
devices. http://rtcomm.garage.maemo.org/

This is a development release and therefore may not be suitable for
serious use. However, if you are interested in trying out cool things,
the update should be fairly usable.

What is it?
---
Internet Communications Software is an integrated subsystem of Internet
tablet OS 2008, running on Nokia n8x0 devices, that handles presence,
chat, voip and video call. It is based on Telepathy framework and
components as explained at http://telepathy.freedesktop.org/

What is new?

Number of things have improved since the public release (Internet tablet
OS 2008). Following are some of them:

1) Telepathy-haze:
--
Now you can use nearly all of the great IM services supported by pidgin
(formerly known as gaim) open-source application - all from the comfort
for your native IM/Voip client in your N8x0 device.

To see the list of services/protocols supported by pidgin, visit:
http://www.pidgin.im/. Please note that not all protocols are enabled
for now, but they can be added later on.

To use it, simply create your IM account in the device normally and the
wizard will let you select the type of service you want (you will see
more services listed there).

2) Telepathy-salut:
---
Be connected to your neighbourhood instantly. This is a link-local
instant messaging that requires no external service or server. Your
buddy list (roster) will automatically consist of everyone present in
the local network. Extremely useful for on-the-spot social networking in
parties or conferences :) .

Oh, and it is zero configuration IM. You only set your full name for
others to see. To use it, simply create an account using the wizard in
and select 'link-local (xmpp)' as the service.

3) Chat log viewer:
---
If you have wished you could see your past chat messages for reference
or simply to recall some important information, worry no more. With
IMLogViewer application (installed in 'Extra' application menu), you
will be able to see all your past chat messages exchanged with your friends.

4) SIP profiles:

There are now some pre-configured SIP profiles for some major providers.
This would ease configuring SIP accounts in the device. They are:

   * Ekiga.net
   * FreeWorldDialup
   * Sipphone.com (Gizmo's SIP service)

Note:You can also create profiles yourself by adding a profile
description file (.profile) to the directory /usr/share/osso-rtcom/ (See
existing profiles for an example).

Installation:
-
1) You need to enable 'red pill mode' in device's Application Manager.
 - Start Settings  Application Manager,
 - Go to Tools  Application catalogue and click New,
 - Enter matrix into the Web Address field and click Cancel.
 - Choosing the red pill will activate the red pill mode.
 - Obviously, and choosing the blue one will deactivate it.

2) Open (while on your N8x0 device):
http://rtcomm.garage.maemo.org/deb/rtcomm-beta-installer-os2008_0.3_armel.deb

3) Install the installer from there.
4) Once installed, select the menu item Extras/RTCom update installer
and continue
5) When asked, reboot
6) Once rebooted, make sure to disable 'red pill mode' by repeating
step (1) and selecting 'blue pill' instead.

Limitations:

1. No audio/video calls with either telepathy-haze or telepathy-salut
2. No avatars support yet in telepathy-salut
3. No authorization of new contacts in telepathy-haze. Adding/removing
buddies won't work from it yet.

Known issues:
-

WARNING: This software upgrade disables some of the Application Manager
functionality, so the official system packages won't get updated
automatically. But still you can update these packages manually using
the apt-get utility or the Application Manager in the red pill mode.

Credits:

Thanks to: Will Thompson (telepathy-haze guy) and Sjoerd Simons
(telepathy-salut guy) for their great telepathy connection managers.
Telepathy community for improving everything in general. Collabora,
OpenHand teams and everyone else who has helped it get through.

Feedback

You are welcome to give your feedback on this software to:

* maemo-devel mailing list: maemo-developers[at]maemo.org
* Maemo bugzilla, RTCom component: http://bugzilla.maemo.org/
* Rtcomm mailing address: rtcomm[at]maemo.org

Thanks and Happy new year!

Regards,
- Real Time Communications team, Maemo

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Re: ANNOUNCE: Internet Communications Software Update 2 for N800/N810

2008-01-03 Thread Krischan Keitsch
Am Donnerstag, 3. Januar 2008 schrieb Naba Kumar:
 (The first announcement in maemo-developers didn't went through perhaps
 due to moderation. So here is it again).

 Hi,

 We are happy to announce the release of 'Internet Communications
 Software development update 2' for Maemo. This update brings you the
 latest developments in Internet messaging and call on Nokia n8x0
 devices. http://rtcomm.garage.maemo.org/

...

 Installation:
 -
 1) You need to enable 'red pill mode' in device's Application Manager.
  - Start Settings  Application Manager,
  - Go to Tools  Application catalogue and click New,
  - Enter matrix into the Web Address field and click Cancel.
  - Choosing the red pill will activate the red pill mode.
  - Obviously, and choosing the blue one will deactivate it.

 2) Open (while on your N8x0 device):
 http://rtcomm.garage.maemo.org/deb/rtcomm-beta-installer-os2008_0.3_armel.d
eb

 3) Install the installer from there.
 4) Once installed, select the menu item Extras/RTCom update installer
 and continue
 5) When asked, reboot
 6) Once rebooted, make sure to disable 'red pill mode' by repeating
 step (1) and selecting 'blue pill' instead.

...

 Feedback
 
 You are welcome to give your feedback on this software to:

 * maemo-devel mailing list: maemo-developers[at]maemo.org
 * Maemo bugzilla, RTCom component: http://bugzilla.maemo.org/
 * Rtcomm mailing address: rtcomm[at]maemo.org

 Thanks and Happy new year!

 Regards,
 - Real Time Communications team, Maemo


Hi,

sounds good! I tried to install but it failed: telepathy-salut 
and telepathy-idle are missing. What I am I doing wrong?

Best regards and an happy new maemo-year to you as well!

Krischan 

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Re: ANNOUNCE: Internet Communications Software Update 2 for N800/N810

2008-01-03 Thread Naba Kumar
Hi,

Naba Kumar wrote:
 2) Open (while on your N8x0 device):
 http://rtcomm.garage.maemo.org/deb/rtcomm-beta-installer-os2008_0.3_armel.deb 
 
Sorry, this link should instead be:

http://rtcomm.garage.maemo.org

and install the installer given on the page.

Thanks.

Regards,
-Naba
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Re: ANNOUNCE: Internet Communications Software Update 2 for N800/N810

2008-01-03 Thread Krischan Keitsch
Am Donnerstag, 3. Januar 2008 schrieb Krischan Keitsch:
 Am Donnerstag, 3. Januar 2008 schrieb Naba Kumar:
  (The first announcement in maemo-developers didn't went through perhaps
  due to moderation. So here is it again).
 
  Hi,
 
  We are happy to announce the release of 'Internet Communications
  Software development update 2' for Maemo. This update brings you the
  latest developments in Internet messaging and call on Nokia n8x0
  devices. http://rtcomm.garage.maemo.org/

 ...

  Installation:
  -
  1) You need to enable 'red pill mode' in device's Application Manager.
   - Start Settings  Application Manager,
   - Go to Tools  Application catalogue and click New,
   - Enter matrix into the Web Address field and click Cancel.
   - Choosing the red pill will activate the red pill mode.
   - Obviously, and choosing the blue one will deactivate it.
 
  2) Open (while on your N8x0 device):
  http://rtcomm.garage.maemo.org/deb/rtcomm-beta-installer-os2008_0.3_armel
 .d eb
 
  3) Install the installer from there.
  4) Once installed, select the menu item Extras/RTCom update installer
  and continue
  5) When asked, reboot
  6) Once rebooted, make sure to disable 'red pill mode' by repeating
  step (1) and selecting 'blue pill' instead.

 ...

  Feedback
  
  You are welcome to give your feedback on this software to:
 
  * maemo-devel mailing list: maemo-developers[at]maemo.org
  * Maemo bugzilla, RTCom component: http://bugzilla.maemo.org/
  * Rtcomm mailing address: rtcomm[at]maemo.org
 
  Thanks and Happy new year!
 
  Regards,
  - Real Time Communications team, Maemo

 Hi,

 sounds good! I tried to install but it failed: telepathy-salut
 and telepathy-idle are missing. What I am I doing wrong?

 Best regards and an happy new maemo-year to you as well!

 Krischan

Answering my own post: I managed to install ICSU2. :-)
However I had to download telepathy-salut and telepathy-idle from [1] 
manually and use 'force' ;-) to install these packages. 
My guess would be that these two packages are missing from the repository 
discription ? 
Could the Real Time Communications team @ maemo confirm this? Or is it just my 
installation?

Krischan

[1] 
http://packages.collabora.co.uk/maemo/pool/salut/t/telepathy-salut_0.2.0-1_armel.deb
http://packages.collabora.co.uk/maemo/pool/idle/t/telepathy-idle_0.1.2-1_armel.deb




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Re: ANNOUNCE: Internet Communications Software Update 2 for N800/N810

2008-01-03 Thread olle
Great news!

Does this mean that pidgin plugins such as OTR
ref: https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1921
will work OOTB or perhaps only require some minimal porting?

/olle
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Re: ANNOUNCE: Internet Communications Software Update 2 for N800/N810

2008-01-03 Thread Felipe Contreras
On Jan 3, 2008 2:45 PM, olle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Great news!

 Does this mean that pidgin plugins such as OTR
 ref: https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1921
 will work OOTB or perhaps only require some minimal porting?

From what I can see no port is needed, but some manual configuration
needs to be done.

I think both telepathy-haze and missioncontrol need these.

Best regards.

-- 
Felipe Contreras
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Re: ANNOUNCE: Internet Communications Software Update 2 for N800/N810

2008-01-03 Thread Arkady Glazov
I try to use IM with ICQ protocol. Sorry, but is not possible becouse
is wrong to encoding received messages. I live in Russia and most
popular ICQ clients is Miranda and QIP. Both of them to use by default
CP1251 encoding, not UTF-8. In Pidgin I can to set default encoding
methods for account and after them I receive right messagess
(readably), but with  ICSU2 a see only wrong symbols  :(

Also I can not connect to chat rooms. It take long time and after them
i only receive error messages.

 1) Telepathy-haze:
 --
 Now you can use nearly all of the great IM services supported by pidgin
 (formerly known as gaim) open-source application - all from the comfort
 for your native IM/Voip client in your N8x0 device.

 To see the list of services/protocols supported by pidgin, visit:
 http://www.pidgin.im/. Please note that not all protocols are enabled
 for now, but they can be added later on.

 To use it, simply create your IM account in the device normally and the
 wizard will let you select the type of service you want (you will see
 more services listed there).
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