Re: Fremantle won't run on N800/N810?! (was Maemo for commercial development (was Re: N810 RIP) )
- Original message - I don't recall if there was talk about a Nokia-provided hacker edition of Fremantle. I suspect there won't be, as it didn't gather a lot of community development on the 770 and with projects like Mer creating a community-supported build already, I suspect Nokia will focus on getting them the resources they need to improve their offering. Yes, there's been quite a lot of talk and it's been decided that Mer is the best way forward. No silly Nokia 'quality' requirements, so the community will be much more capable of bringing the backport to OMAP2 (and other) hardware. Nokia is going to be providing an unprecidented level of support to facilitate Mer.___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Fremantle won't run on N800/N810?! (was Maemo for commercial development (was Re: N810 RIP) )
> Whoa! backup. > > Would someone else please confirm that freemantle will NOT run on the > N800 or N810? This is the first that I have noticed this. I don't have links handy, but as a lurker on planet and the dev-list I know it's been mentioned several times. It's been a while since I've looked at projected specs for the new device, but significantly increased CPU horsepower, hardware 3D, and accellerometers all vaguely ring bells for me, any of which could be deeply integrated into Fremantle in such a way as to make backporting to older hardware a significant amount of work. I don't recall if there was talk about a Nokia-provided hacker edition of Fremantle. I suspect there won't be, as it didn't gather a lot of community development on the 770 and with projects like Mer creating a community-supported build already, I suspect Nokia will focus on getting them the resources they need to improve their offering. Thanks, Mike Lococo ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Fremantle won't run on N800/N810?! (was Maemo for commercial development (was Re: N810 RIP) )
On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 6:12 PM, Anderson Lizardo wrote: > On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 10:35 AM, Andrew Flegg wrote: >> >> An example of this is Mer: > > Are those "open-source elements of Nokia's Maemo platform" already > coming from maemo 5? Yes. As I said, you can already play with the kinetic scrolling goodness of Maemo 5 on an 770 or N8x0 today; through the newer version of libhildon which is in Mer. Cheers, Andrew -- Andrew Flegg -- mailto:and...@bleb.org | http://www.bleb.org/ Maemo Community Council member ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Fremantle won't run on N800/N810?! (was Maemo for commercial development (was Re: N810 RIP) )
On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 10:35 AM, Andrew Flegg wrote: > On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 2:01 PM, Ville M. Vainio wrote: >> On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 3:50 PM, Jason Edgecombe >> wrote: >> >>> Would someone else please confirm that freemantle will NOT run on the >>> N800 or N810? This is the first that I have noticed this. >> >> It is implied that official support won't be there, but it could be >> made to work [...] >> >>> This early release comes with an invitation to build variants based on >>> Maemo 5 compatible with existing hardware like the N800 and N810. > > An example of this is Mer: > >http://wiki.maemo.org/Mer Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Mer based on Ubuntu? from the wiki: "Mer is a new Linux operating system, built upon a thin base of Ubuntu Jaunty combined with the best open-source elements of Nokia's Maemo platform." Are those "open-source elements of Nokia's Maemo platform" already coming from maemo 5? Thanks in advance, -- Anderson Lizardo Instituto Nokia de Tecnologia (INdT) Manaus - Brazil ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Fremantle won't run on N800/N810?! (was Maemo for commercial development (was Re: N810 RIP) )
On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 2:01 PM, Ville M. Vainio wrote: > On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 3:50 PM, Jason Edgecombe > wrote: > >> Would someone else please confirm that freemantle will NOT run on the >> N800 or N810? This is the first that I have noticed this. > > It is implied that official support won't be there, but it could be > made to work [...] > >> This early release comes with an invitation to build variants based on >> Maemo 5 compatible with existing hardware like the N800 and N810. An example of this is Mer: http://wiki.maemo.org/Mer It's still in development, and isn't ready for end-users yet, but already allows you to play with some of the new kinetic scrolling Hildon widgets and have fun building up a new Ubuntu & Maemo-inspired platform. Cheers, Andrew -- Andrew Flegg -- mailto:and...@bleb.org | http://www.bleb.org/ Maemo Community Council member ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Fremantle won't run on N800/N810?! (was Maemo for commercial development (was Re: N810 RIP) )
On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 3:50 PM, Jason Edgecombe wrote: > Whoa! backup. > > Would someone else please confirm that freemantle will NOT run on the > N800 or N810? This is the first that I have noticed this. It is implied that official support won't be there, but it could be made to work: http://maemo.org/news/announcements/first_maemo_5_sdk_release_targeting_platform_developers/ QQQ Maemo 5 comes today as an SDK only since it targets the OMAP3 architecture and no OMAP2 compatibility will be officially provided. The revamped UI relying on graphics acceleration and the new functionality built around the new supported hardware made it too complex to keep the compatibility between both architectures. This early release comes with an invitation to build variants based on Maemo 5 compatible with existing hardware like the N800 and N810. Maemo SW can't promise commercial quality for such configurations but through maemo.org we are able to collaborate at a community level with technical support, license changes and code. QQQ -- Ville M. Vainio http://tinyurl.com/vainio ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Fremantle won't run on N800/N810?! (was Maemo for commercial development (was Re: N810 RIP) )
Keywan Najafi Tonekaboni wrote: > Hi, > > as far as we no, Freemantle won't run on N810/N800 because of the new > UI. The interesting question for 3rd-party developers could be: Does > applications written for Diablo run in Freemantle? Which dependencies > are deprecated and which new they had to comply. > > Maybe they could be some not so important for the marketing, but > interesting for the developers details about the hardware reported (like > HD-camera). For e.g. does it have a hardware keyboard or the default > screen orientation.. > Whoa! backup. Would someone else please confirm that freemantle will NOT run on the N800 or N810? This is the first that I have noticed this. Thanks, Jason ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
