Re: N800 Camera Motion Detector w/HTTP server

2007-02-23 Thread Kon Wilms

Text-based should work fine.

Cheers
Kon

On 2/23/07, Michael Wiktowy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


On 2/22/07, Jeremiah Summers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 2/22/07, Acadia Secure Networks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Thu, 2007-02-22 at 11:25 -0700, Jeremiah Summers wrote:
> > "To configure via the web, load Opera and hit the N800
> > on port 8080"
> > why is opera necessary? Would it also be possible to connect
> > to the N800 on port 8080 from another computer using, say
> >
> > Firefox?
> >
> > Because Opera is on the N800 by default not FireFox! (sorry I normally
> > just listen but this was to obvious)
> >
> > Um, he's asking if he can connect to the server from another computer
> > (e.g. he wants to know if the server on the N800 is just listening on
> > localhost or not) It has nothing to do with the browser used.
> > But that was obvious to me. ;-)
> Yes that is what I was saying but obviously opera is used because if you
are
> configuring it on the n800 that's your only choice right? That would be
why
> opera is necessary at least on the N800 and that is why it was stated.
> There's no other reason why Opera would be mentioned when above he
mentioned
> both Firefox and Opera. Maybe the question should then be restated to
can
> you access the configuration from something outside the local loopback
> instead of focusing on using opera or not. If that's the case Opera
> wouldn't, nor shouldn't matter. So I answered the question about Opera,
why
> it was mentioned. In a joking way that would be the reason, would it
not?

To answer the question ... it is configurable but these things usually
bind to localhost only by default just to be secure by default:
See
http://www.lavrsen.dk/twiki/bin/view/Motion/ConfigOptionControlLocalhost

... and you can probably get away with using minimo on the NokIT too.
I am not sure if the control interface is simple enough to use one of
the text-based browsers but it might be.

/Mike
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Re: N800 Camera Motion Detector w/HTTP server

2007-02-23 Thread Michael Wiktowy

On 2/22/07, Jeremiah Summers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On 2/22/07, Acadia Secure Networks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, 2007-02-22 at 11:25 -0700, Jeremiah Summers wrote:
> "To configure via the web, load Opera and hit the N800
> on port 8080"
> why is opera necessary? Would it also be possible to connect
> to the N800 on port 8080 from another computer using, say
>
> Firefox?
>
> Because Opera is on the N800 by default not FireFox! (sorry I normally
> just listen but this was to obvious)
>
> Um, he's asking if he can connect to the server from another computer
> (e.g. he wants to know if the server on the N800 is just listening on
> localhost or not) It has nothing to do with the browser used.
> But that was obvious to me. ;-)
Yes that is what I was saying but obviously opera is used because if you are
configuring it on the n800 that's your only choice right? That would be why
opera is necessary at least on the N800 and that is why it was stated.
There's no other reason why Opera would be mentioned when above he mentioned
both Firefox and Opera. Maybe the question should then be restated to can
you access the configuration from something outside the local loopback
instead of focusing on using opera or not. If that's the case Opera
wouldn't, nor shouldn't matter. So I answered the question about Opera, why
it was mentioned. In a joking way that would be the reason, would it not?


To answer the question ... it is configurable but these things usually
bind to localhost only by default just to be secure by default:
See
http://www.lavrsen.dk/twiki/bin/view/Motion/ConfigOptionControlLocalhost

... and you can probably get away with using minimo on the NokIT too.
I am not sure if the control interface is simple enough to use one of
the text-based browsers but it might be.

/Mike
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Re: N800 Camera Motion Detector w/HTTP server

2007-02-22 Thread Jeremiah Summers

On 2/22/07, Acadia Secure Networks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


 On Thu, 2007-02-22 at 11:25 -0700, Jeremiah Summers wrote:


   "To configure via the web, load Opera and hit the N800
on port 8080"

why is opera necessary? Would it also be possible to connect
to the N800 on port 8080 from another computer using, say
Firefox?

Because Opera is on the N800 by default not FireFox! (sorry I normally
just listen but this was to obvious)

 Um, he's asking if he can connect to the server from another computer
(e.g. he wants to know if the server on the N800 is just listening on
localhost or not) It has nothing to do with the browser used.

But that was obvious to me. ;-)



Yes that is what I was saying but obviously opera is used because if you are
configuring it on the n800 that's your only choice right? That would be why
opera is necessary at least on the N800 and that is why it was stated.
There's no other reason why Opera would be mentioned when above he mentioned
both Firefox and Opera. Maybe the question should then be restated to can
you access the configuration from something outside the local loopback
instead of focusing on using opera or not. If that's the case Opera
wouldn't, nor shouldn't matter. So I answered the question about Opera, why
it was mentioned. In a joking way that would be the reason, would it not?
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Re: N800 Camera Motion Detector w/HTTP server

2007-02-22 Thread Acadia Secure Networks

Andrew,

correct.

Best Regards,



John Holmblad








[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Thu, 2007-02-22 at 11:25 -0700, Jeremiah Summers wrote:

  

"To configure via the web, load Opera and hit the N800
on port 8080"

why is opera necessary? Would it also be possible to connect

to the N800 on port 8080 from another computer using, say
Firefox?

Because Opera is on the N800 by default not FireFox! (sorry I normally
just listen but this was to obvious)



Um, he's asking if he can connect to the server from another computer
(e.g. he wants to know if the server on the N800 is just listening on
localhost or not) It has nothing to do with the browser used.

But that was obvious to me. ;-)

  
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Re: N800 Camera Motion Detector w/HTTP server

2007-02-22 Thread Andrew Barr
On Thu, 2007-02-22 at 11:25 -0700, Jeremiah Summers wrote:

> "To configure via the web, load Opera and hit the N800
> on port 8080"
> 
> why is opera necessary? Would it also be possible to connect
> to the N800 on port 8080 from another computer using, say
> Firefox?
> 
> Because Opera is on the N800 by default not FireFox! (sorry I normally
> just listen but this was to obvious)

Um, he's asking if he can connect to the server from another computer
(e.g. he wants to know if the server on the N800 is just listening on
localhost or not) It has nothing to do with the browser used.

But that was obvious to me. ;-)

-- 
Andrew Barr

"My life is an open book, but I'm not going to read it to you."
-- David Hyde Pierce
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Re: N800 Camera Motion Detector w/HTTP server

2007-02-22 Thread Jeremiah Summers

On 2/22/07, Acadia Secure Networks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


 Kon,

I have two questions for you:

1. re: the following comment at the Internet Tablet talk www page, i.e.

"To configure via the web, load Opera and hit the N800 on port
8080"

why is opera necessary? Would it also be possible to connect to the N800
on port 8080 from another computer using, say Firefox?



Because Opera is on the N800 by default not FireFox! (sorry I normally just
listen but this was to obvious)


2.  I am already running nginx, so will  the embedded www server interfere

in your app in any way with that already installed www server, as far as you
know?

 Best Regards,



John Holmblad





Kon Wilms wrote:

Hi folks,

I have compiled Motion and put it here with some info:
http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4869

I will build up a mud package and frontend UI when I have some time :-)

Cheers
Kon

-- snip

This is a quick compilation of Motion with V4L2 support.

Motion is a flexible motion detection and image capture application that
can capture from input video devices, perform motion analysis, and output
the resulting postprocessed images to files, external processes, or straight
to HTTP using its built-in HTTP server.

You can use it with your N800 and turn your device into a motion capture
device, automated snapshot device, or anything else you can think of.

I have customized the binary to overcome some issues with V4L2 on the N800
(buffer read errors), and modified the motion.conf to accomodate for the
N800 (hur offset, capture delay to give minimum amount of errors, etc.)

To use:

1. Unzip and copy motion and motion.conf to your N800
2. Using xterm, start motion
3. Hit the IP of your N800 with a web browser on port 8081 (use firefox!)
4. To configure via the web, load Opera and hit the N800 on port 8080

You must use mozilla or firefox as the stream is motion jpeg and IE cannot
parse the stream (being the pile it is).

See the FAQ for more info on setting up motion to auto-ftp images, email,
postprocess, redirect, draw image boxes around motion detected, ...

If you file bug reports to this thread I will do my best to fix the code.

CAVEATS: non-graceful termination may hang the camera device and reboot
the N800 (harmless but beware).

Download here http://geopacket.com/maemo/

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Re: N800 Camera Motion Detector w/HTTP server

2007-02-22 Thread Acadia Secure Networks

Kon,

I have two questions for you:

1. re: the following comment at the Internet Tablet talk www page, i.e.

   "To configure via the web, load Opera and hit the N800 on port 8080"

why is opera necessary? Would it also be possible to connect to the N800 
on port 8080 from another computer using, say Firefox?


2.  I am already running nginx, so will  the embedded www server 
interfere in your app in any way with that already installed www server, 
as far as you know?


Best Regards,



John Holmblad







Kon Wilms wrote:

Hi folks,

I have compiled Motion and put it here with some info:
http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4869

I will build up a mud package and frontend UI when I have some time :-)

Cheers
Kon

-- snip

This is a quick compilation of Motion with V4L2 support.

Motion is a flexible motion detection and image capture application 
that can capture from input video devices, perform motion analysis, 
and output the resulting postprocessed images to files, external 
processes, or straight to HTTP using its built-in HTTP server.


You can use it with your N800 and turn your device into a motion 
capture device, automated snapshot device, or anything else you can 
think of.


I have customized the binary to overcome some issues with V4L2 on the 
N800 (buffer read errors), and modified the motion.conf to accomodate 
for the N800 (hur offset, capture delay to give minimum amount of 
errors, etc.)


To use:

1. Unzip and copy motion and motion.conf to your N800
2. Using xterm, start motion
3. Hit the IP of your N800 with a web browser on port 8081 (use firefox!)
4. To configure via the web, load Opera and hit the N800 on port 8080

You must use mozilla or firefox as the stream is motion jpeg and IE 
cannot parse the stream (being the pile it is).


See the FAQ for more info on setting up motion to auto-ftp images, 
email, postprocess, redirect, draw image boxes around motion detected, ...


If you file bug reports to this thread I will do my best to fix the code.

CAVEATS: non-graceful termination may hang the camera device and 
reboot the N800 (harmless but beware).


Download here http://geopacket.com/maemo/


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N800 Camera Motion Detector w/HTTP server

2007-02-22 Thread Kon Wilms

Hi folks,

I have compiled Motion and put it here with some info:
http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4869

I will build up a mud package and frontend UI when I have some time :-)

Cheers
Kon

-- snip

This is a quick compilation of Motion with V4L2 support.

Motion is a flexible motion detection and image capture application that can
capture from input video devices, perform motion analysis, and output the
resulting postprocessed images to files, external processes, or straight to
HTTP using its built-in HTTP server.

You can use it with your N800 and turn your device into a motion capture
device, automated snapshot device, or anything else you can think of.

I have customized the binary to overcome some issues with V4L2 on the N800
(buffer read errors), and modified the motion.conf to accomodate for the
N800 (hur offset, capture delay to give minimum amount of errors, etc.)

To use:

1. Unzip and copy motion and motion.conf to your N800
2. Using xterm, start motion
3. Hit the IP of your N800 with a web browser on port 8081 (use firefox!)
4. To configure via the web, load Opera and hit the N800 on port 8080

You must use mozilla or firefox as the stream is motion jpeg and IE cannot
parse the stream (being the pile it is).

See the FAQ for more info on setting up motion to auto-ftp images, email,
postprocess, redirect, draw image boxes around motion detected, ...

If you file bug reports to this thread I will do my best to fix the code.

CAVEATS: non-graceful termination may hang the camera device and reboot the
N800 (harmless but beware).

Download here http://geopacket.com/maemo/
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