Re: [maemo-developers] Alsa on IT2006 beta

2006-06-22 Thread Jaime Ruiz Frontera

 - can anyone offer insight as to why I can no-longer reflash the n770?


Try to do it with flasher-2.0. You can find it in the same web page.
Good luck!

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Re: [maemo-developers] Alsa on IT2006 beta

2006-06-22 Thread Frantisek Dufka

Steve Landers wrote:


So, I have a few questions
- are the plans for alsa support to be re-added to IT2006?
- does anyone have the alsa driver built as a module that can be added 
to IT2006?


some things previously in kernel are modules now, have a look in 
/mnt/initfs/lib/modules/current there are some sound modules there



- can anyone offer insight as to why I can no-longer reflash the n770?


flasher-2.0

BTW the mailing list is searchable
http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/engine?list=maemo
see also
http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/engine?list=maemodo=search_resultssearch_forum=allsearch_string=unsupported+boardsearch_type=AND

Regards
Frantisek
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Re: [maemo-developers] Alsa on IT2006 beta

2006-06-22 Thread Frantisek Dufka

Steve Landers wrote:

Yes - I looked there. Nothing that stands out as being an alsa driver - 
snd_hwdep and snd_rawmidi being the closest but neither appears to 
provide the functionality of the inbuilt Alsa drivers in IT2005 nor the 
Alsa support referred to in the Maemo documentation.  And, 
unfortunately, I cannot find any documentation on how to use these modules.




Tha basic support is in kernel
Nokia770-22:~# cat /proc/asound/version
Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.11rc2 (Wed Jan 04 
08:57:20 2006 UTC).
and with the rest in modules I think it is the same functionality as it 
was in IT2005 (i.e almost none). What exactly did work in IT2005 out of 
box? I thought alsa is not working yet for the internal audio and people 
should use gstreamer or esd deamon for that as the audio chip is used 
only by DSP (via gstreamer) directly. Am I wrong? Was there really alsa 
to DSP audio driver in kernel in IT2005?


Frantisek
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Re: [maemo-developers] Alsa on IT2006 beta

2006-06-22 Thread Steve Landers


On 22/06/2006, at 7:10 PM, Frantisek Dufka wrote:


Steve Landers wrote:

Yes - I looked there. Nothing that stands out as being an alsa  
driver - snd_hwdep and snd_rawmidi being the closest but neither  
appears to provide the functionality of the inbuilt Alsa drivers  
in IT2005 nor the Alsa support referred to in the Maemo  
documentation.  And, unfortunately, I cannot find any  
documentation on how to use these modules.


Tha basic support is in kernel
Nokia770-22:~# cat /proc/asound/version
Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.11rc2 (Wed Jan  
04 08:57:20 2006 UTC).
and with the rest in modules I think it is the same functionality  
as it was in IT2005 (i.e almost none). What exactly did work in  
IT2005 out of box? I thought alsa is not working yet for the  
internal audio and people should use gstreamer or esd deamon for  
that as the audio chip is used only by DSP (via gstreamer)  
directly. Am I wrong? Was there really alsa to DSP audio driver in  
kernel in IT2005?


I'll answer that question in a few hours when I rebuild the Maemo 1.1  
scratchbox and try building and running aplayer.  I've just reflashed  
to 1.1 (oh how I miss IT2006 already :)) and note that the /proc/ 
asounds directory has a subdir card0 with a symlink Dummy -  card0.   
Inside card0 is a device file id which just returns dummy. So at  
this stage I'm not sure if that indicates there is or isn't an Alsa  
driver present.


What I do know is that the documentation (http://www.maemo.org/ 
platform/docs/multimedia/multimedia_architecture.html) explicitly  
states that Alsa is supported and seems to discourage one from using  
ESD.


I've looked into Gstreamer but quickly got bogged down in the  
complexity and it isn't obvious if it is even possible to get it  
working in the way I need (basically, playing midi notes - ideally  
with soundfont support) without developing a plugin. I could go down  
the SDL path as an alternative but given I use a library that  
supports Alsa (Fluidsynth) and the Maemo multimedia documentation  
says that it supports Alsa then I'm naive enough to believe it should  
be possible :)


Don't get me wrong - I love the 770 and think that it is a great  
device. I'm just a bit frustrated at the moment with the quality of  
the available documentation (I can live with missing documentation, I  
find incorrect documentation a little harder to deal with).


In any case, I appreciate your input.

Steve


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Re: [maemo-developers] Alsa on IT2006 beta

2006-06-22 Thread Charles 'Buck' Krasic
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Look for my earlier post to the list.  

Summary: the 770 kernel is linux-2.6.16-omap1 which does have generic
ALSA, but not specific support for the 770.   There was a patch posted
to the linux-omap-open-source list which was supposed to enable the
AIC23 ALSA driver for the 770.   I buillt a kernel with that patch and
installed it on my 770.I did get it to make sound, but it was not
at the right speed, so I think the driver would need some work.

As far I can tell, the 2.0 beta definitely does not provide ALSA
support for the built-in sound.   

- -- Buck

Steve Landers wrote:

 G'day,

 I'm currently porting a Fluidsynth based program to the n770 and
 notice that the Alsa driver appears to be missing from IT2006 beta.


 No big deal, except I can't seem to regress my n770 to the previous
 OS release - Nokia_770_SE2005_5_2006_13_7, which does have the
 Alsa drivers. When flashing I get a message Unsupported board (id
 = 0x)

 So, I have a few questions - are the plans for alsa support to be
 re-added to IT2006? - does anyone have the alsa driver built as a
 module that can be added to IT2006? - can anyone offer insight as
 to why I can no-longer reflash the n770?

 Many thanks

 Steve

 -- Steve Landers Software Design Solutions
 Digital Smarties [EMAIL PROTECTED] Perth,
 Western Australia DigitalSmarties.com

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