Re: [maemo-developers] radio?!

2007-02-07 Thread Matthew Allum

On 2/7/07, Andrew Flegg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


A user suggests it is:

http://maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-users/2007-February/003605.html

 The repoository link did work well for me. Furthermore ive tested the
 fm-radio app from o-hand.com rep. Didnt ever know that it is possible to
 hear radiio with headset connected.

However, I can't see an fm-radio app in the Opened Hand repo from
looking at Packages.gz.



Um, I dont know where this confusion is coming from, but we at OH have
never written an app called fm-radio (or even heard of one). We know
nothing about the radio. Sorry :(

 -- Matthew
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Re: [maemo-developers] radio?!

2007-02-07 Thread David Hagood
Nokia JUST released an application that activates an FM radio chip in 
the unit.


No, this isn't an April Fools - I'm listening to FM radio on my N800 
right now.


The application plugs into the desktop, so you have to activate it on 
the desktop rather than from the application menu.


Nokia really kept that one under their hats - kudos.

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Re: [maemo-developers] radio?!

2007-02-07 Thread Andrew Barr
On Wed, 2007-02-07 at 18:42 -0600, David Hagood wrote:
 Nokia JUST released an application that activates an FM radio chip in 
 the unit.

What's the license and where can I get it? :-)

 No, this isn't an April Fools - I'm listening to FM radio on my N800 
 right now.
 
 The application plugs into the desktop, so you have to activate it on 
 the desktop rather than from the application menu.
 
 Nokia really kept that one under their hats - kudos.

Indeed

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Re: [maemo-developers] radio?!

2007-02-07 Thread Paul Klapperich

On 2/7/07, Andrew Barr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On Wed, 2007-02-07 at 18:42 -0600, David Hagood wrote:
 Nokia JUST released an application that activates an FM radio chip in
 the unit.

What's the license and where can I get it? :-)




Not sure on the license, but Andrew Flegg posted it on the maemo-users list.
It seems the packages list isn't up to date yet, so use the direct download
for now.

-- Forwarded message --

From: Andrew Flegg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Feb 7, 2007 9:04 AM
Subject: [maemo-users] Radio (was: Contacts on N800)
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: maemo-users@maemo.org

On 2/7/07, Jens Becker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 It was in the Catalogue 3rd party software

 Nokia Catalogue (3rd party software)

 * Web address
   http://catalogue.tableteer.nokia.com/non-certified/

 * Distribution
   bora

 * Components
   user

Direct download:


http://repository.maemo.org/catalogue/certified/pool/bora/user/f/fmradio/fmradio_1.2.0_armel.deb

Once installed, start XTerm and run fmradio. Headphones are required
to be plugged in to act as an aerial, but it will output to either the
speakers or the headphones - there are toolbar buttons to select.

HTH,

Andrew

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Re: [maemo-developers] radio?!

2007-02-07 Thread Andrew Barr

On 2/7/07, Andrew Barr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Wed, 2007-02-07 at 18:42 -0600, David Hagood wrote:
 Nokia JUST released an application that activates an FM radio chip in
 the unit.

What's the license and where can I get it? :-)



Ummm, there's a click-through license *groans* That's not a good sign.

Good news is that AFAIK the radio uses the V4L2 API so a free rewrite
or port of existing code should not be such a big deal.

Andrew
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Re: [maemo-developers] radio?!

2007-02-07 Thread David Hagood

For me, it just showed up in the applications manager when I did a refresh.

The license seems to be a closed license from Nokia - however, the 
drivers are all exported to userspace, so I would guess that you could 
roll your own pretty easily.


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Re: [maemo-developers] radio?!

2007-02-07 Thread Andrew Barr

On 2/7/07, David Hagood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

For me, it just showed up in the applications manager when I did a refresh.

The license seems to be a closed license from Nokia - however, the
drivers are all exported to userspace, so I would guess that you could
roll your own pretty easily.


I suspect it has not cleared the legal department and Nokia wanted to
put it in tablet owners' hands instead of waiting.

There is no reason for such a thing not to be open source, there is
absolutely _nothing_ secret here that I could think of...

Lawyers, gotta love 'em.

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Re: [maemo-developers] radio?!

2007-02-06 Thread Andrew J. Barr
On Tue, 2007-02-06 at 22:05 -0500, John B. Holmblad wrote:
 Andrew,
 
 maybe that is the hardware equivalent/ instantiation  of an easter
 egg!
 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Easter_egg_(virtual)


Nope.

radio-tea5761.c is a real driver as far as I can tell. It lives in
drivers/media/radio in the 2.6.18-osso29 source code from maemo.org.

Somehow I don't see easter eggs in the kernel as an acceptable
practice. :-)

The question is whether or not it's wired in and functional.

 Best Regards,

 John Holmblad
  
 
  
 
 
 
 
 Andrew J. Barr wrote: 
  Am I crazy or does the N800 have an FM radio in it?
  
  /sys/devices/platform/i2c_omap.2/i2c-0/0-0010 # cat name 
  TEA5761 FM-Radio
  
  Andrew
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Re: [maemo-developers] radio?!

2007-02-06 Thread inode0

On 2/6/07, Paul Klapperich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Is this a TI chip? I know TI has some bluetooth/FM tuner dual purpose chips
[1]. Maybe this is related? I doubt the antenna is hooked up, though, but
maybe it shares the antenna with the BT and we can just have one or the
other operating...

[1] http://linuxdevices.com/news/NS9262656554.html


Or perhaps it is this one?

http://www.nxp.com/news/infocus/fm_radio_solutions/index.html

John
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Re: [maemo-developers] radio?!

2007-02-06 Thread Acadia Secure Networks

Andrew,

actually what I mean is easter eggs in the hardware, waiting to be 
discovered.


Best Regards,



John Holmblad





Andrew J. Barr wrote:

On Tue, 2007-02-06 at 22:05 -0500, John B. Holmblad wrote:
  

Andrew,

maybe that is the hardware equivalent/ instantiation  of an easter
egg!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Easter_egg_(virtual)




Nope.

radio-tea5761.c is a real driver as far as I can tell. It lives in
drivers/media/radio in the 2.6.18-osso29 source code from maemo.org.

Somehow I don't see easter eggs in the kernel as an acceptable
practice. :-)

The question is whether or not it's wired in and functional.

  

Best Regards,

John Holmblad
 

 





Andrew J. Barr wrote: 


Am I crazy or does the N800 have an FM radio in it?

/sys/devices/platform/i2c_omap.2/i2c-0/0-0010 # cat name 
TEA5761 FM-Radio


Andrew
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Re: [maemo-developers] radio?!

2007-02-06 Thread Paul Klapperich

On 2/6/07, inode0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On 2/6/07, Paul Klapperich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Is this a TI chip? I know TI has some bluetooth/FM tuner dual purpose
chips
 [1]. Maybe this is related? I doubt the antenna is hooked up, though,
but
 maybe it shares the antenna with the BT and we can just have one or the
 other operating...

 [1] http://linuxdevices.com/news/NS9262656554.html

Or perhaps it is this one?

http://www.nxp.com/news/infocus/fm_radio_solutions/index.html



I'm betting on the NXP BGB260FM [1]. I took your lead, then did some
googling. It's a combined Bluetooth and FM stereo on a chip, but uses the
TEA5671 as it's FM component. From the block diagram it has seems to have
separate antenna inputs, so I'd assume it's not connected. Or maybe the
quality is just lower than that cheap camera so Nokia left it disabled ;)

[1] - http://www.nxp.com/acrobat_download/literature/9397/75015439.pdf

--Paul
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