Re: [maemo-users] Re: [maemo-developers] Future features for Maemo Desktop (Task Navigator, Home, Status bar)?

2006-08-18 Thread Larry Battraw

On 8/18/06, Marius Gedminas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Fri, Aug 18, 2006 at 08:15:12PM +0300, Igor Stoppa wrote:
> Done already, check the power management and drivers code. Next?

Cool!

By the way, I remember hearing somewhere that in OS2005 if you had the
audio player open and paused, the device would not enter into a full
power savings mode and would drain the battery faster.  Is this fixed in
OS2006?

Marius Gedminas


 I can't say authoritatively if it is, but my experience is that it
has been partially fixed.  Before if you even had the audio player
open it would drain your battery.  Now you can leave it open without
problems, but you must not leave it paused to avoid battery drain.

Larry
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[maemo-users] Add New Clock Timezone

2006-08-18 Thread Alex Crough
How can I add a new clock location to the  clock? My timezone is not in the system? Any help is apreiciated.
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Re: [maemo-users] Check battery level

2006-08-18 Thread Larry Battraw

Somebody knows how to do it but a message or attachment is missing:

[maemo-users] Check battery level
carles.bruguera carles.bruguera at guifi.net
Thu Aug 10 21:09:56 EEST 2006

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Thanks!

That's what i was searching.

have you tried to check value just in the moment the visual indicator
changes from 4 bars to 3, 3 to 2 and so on, to check the teoretical
75,50, and 25 % ob the battery?

Maybe with a litttle bit of patience i'll do it :)

En/na Matan Ziv-Av ha escrit:


You can read the raw analog battery level by running the attached
program (value returned in HEX):

./retu-adc 2 3

How to reasonably convert the value to percents is still an open
question. I use the followin function:

int batt_raw_to_pc( int r) {
   /* Linear, for now */
   if(r>=550) return 100;
   if(r>=500) return (r+450)/10;
   if(r<300) return 0;
   return (r-300)*96/200;
}


On 8/18/06, Ian Malcom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi,

I've been trying to figure out the battery power level
programmatically for weeks now :( Would it be possible
for someone to post the source of the program that
does this?

Thanks a lot!!
Ian


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Re: [maemo-users] Re: [maemo-developers] Future features for Maemo Desktop (Task Navigator, Home, Status bar)?

2006-08-18 Thread Marius Gedminas
On Fri, Aug 18, 2006 at 08:15:12PM +0300, Igor Stoppa wrote:
> On Fri, 2006-08-18 at 18:09 +0100, ext Peter Robinson wrote:
> 
> > - Expanded power management. This is more kernel than actual UI but
> > some of the things that I've seen around for projects like OLPC where
> > if the sound driver isn't used for a couple of seconds its shut down
> > etc. Things like the USB port, in the general scheme of things, aren't
> > used very often so could (not sure if they are all ready) be shut down
> > most of the time to save battery (saw a blog entry somewhere where
> > someone played with the shutdown of usb when not in use and saved a
> > couple of watts).
> Done already, check the power management and drivers code. Next?

Cool!

By the way, I remember hearing somewhere that in OS2005 if you had the
audio player open and paused, the device would not enter into a full
power savings mode and would drain the battery faster.  Is this fixed in
OS2006?

Marius Gedminas
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Re: [maemo-users] Re: [maemo-developers] Future features for Maemo Desktop (Task Navigator, Home, Status bar)?

2006-08-18 Thread Marius Gedminas
On Fri, Aug 18, 2006 at 04:00:31PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I can think of a couple of badly missing features such as:
> 
>An applet that would watch the resources availabitily and warn a user if
>launching yet another window or application would definitely cause
>a lockdown (followed by imminent reboot). I have seen enough reports
>from the end-users complaining that the system is not stable even with
>IT2006 update. The fact is that the most of them are not aware of the 
> scarce
>OS resources they hold in their hands. A notification applet to make them
>aware would help thwart off future negative reviews and general confusion.

Agreed.  The load applet from the application catalog does a pretty good
job at this.  If the memory is full, I try to close some app before
starting a new one.  If the CPU is busy, I know that I should wait,
instead of assuming that I didn't press the screen hard enough and
retrying.  osso-statusbar-cpu is not as good for this, because the
current stat is pretty much invisible -- it focuses more on showing
history.

By the way, in my experience OS2006 deals much better with low memory
situations than OS2005 did.  I don't remember when I got a reboot due to
running out of memory.  Instead, I get random unexplained reboots (the
task navigator bar disappears, the current application resizes and
redraws, then in a second the device reboots.  I think some statusbar
plugin may be at fault.)

>And lastly, the Task Navigator bar width should be configurable.
>There is no reason for its fattness as it is - it is just a waste
>of desktop realstate, IMHO.

Actually, there is a reason -- so that you could hit the icons with your
thumb.  It would be difficult if the bar was slimmer, or the icons
smaller.

>Also, perhaps a docking station developed by Nokia for future models
>might be a boon for the end-users.

Yes, please.  A cradle that my 770 does not fall out of, if I press a
hardware key.  With the ability to plug a charger into the cradle so
that I can charge the device without the power cable sticking out
inconveniently downwards and having to bend it and risk damaging it.

Marius Gedminas
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Re: [maemo-developers] RE: [maemo-users] Future features for Maemo Desktop (Task Navigator, Home, Status bar)?

2006-08-18 Thread Larry Battraw

On 8/18/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hello,

Thanks for your feature proposals for Maemo Desktop so far.
I'll be collecting them next week, so please keep posting them over the
weekend.




 Hi Karoliina,

I would really enjoy seeing (As others have described) to be able to
have an arbitrary number of icons for the task bar and status bar,
perhaps with arrows to scroll through them.  Ditto on the idea to have
icons on the desktop/home screen to start applications.  First-class
support for keyboards is important so that it's not something that
mostly works and is an afterthought.  Things like the ability to set
the key repeat rate and a icon indicating a keyboard is detected on
the status bus, etc.
 Finally, it would be great to have a context menu for application
icons (that are running) on the taskbar to minimize, restore, go
full-screen, and close.

Thanks,
Larry Battraw
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Re: [maemo-users] Re: [maemo-developers] Future features for Maemo Desktop (Task Navigator, Home, Status bar)?

2006-08-18 Thread Igor Stoppa
On Fri, 2006-08-18 at 18:09 +0100, ext Peter Robinson wrote:

> - Expanded power management. This is more kernel than actual UI but
> some of the things that I've seen around for projects like OLPC where
> if the sound driver isn't used for a couple of seconds its shut down
> etc. Things like the USB port, in the general scheme of things, aren't
> used very often so could (not sure if they are all ready) be shut down
> most of the time to save battery (saw a blog entry somewhere where
> someone played with the shutdown of usb when not in use and saved a
> couple of watts).
Done already, check the power management and drivers code. Next?


Cheers,
   Igor

Igor Stoppa (Nokia M - OSSO / Tampere)
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[maemo-users] Re: [maemo-developers] Future features for Maemo Desktop (Task Navigator, Home, Status bar)?

2006-08-18 Thread Peter Robinson

On 8/18/06, Karoliina Salminen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hello everybody,

I am now collecting some ideas for future development of the UI framework.

If you have any features that you'd like to see in the future in the
components mentioned on the topic (Task Navigator, Home, Status bar),
please send your feature requests/ideas to me: karoliina.t.salminen at
nokia.com or reply them on this list for further discussion. So now is
your chance to affect to which direction you'd like us to develop the
desktop UI framework. Also if you have any ideas for plug-in APIs,
bindings etc. anything you'd wish  to see there in the future, please let
me know. The sooner the better, so if you have something in your mind now,
please let me know now (meaning Today if possible).

No matter if you are developer or end user or both, I am waiting for your
ideas and comments with a great interest - "What do you want?". Thanks in
advance!


A couple of things that I'd like to see are (possibly not entirely desktop):
- Expansion of the contacts app to support phone numbers etc. for voip apps etc
- Expanded power management. This is more kernel than actual UI but
some of the things that I've seen around for projects like OLPC where
if the sound driver isn't used for a couple of seconds its shut down
etc. Things like the USB port, in the general scheme of things, aren't
used very often so could (not sure if they are all ready) be shut down
most of the time to save battery (saw a blog entry somewhere where
someone played with the shutdown of usb when not in use and saved a
couple of watts).
- More details in the wireless device section.
- Support for speex/ogg/vorbis/theora
- Support for BT Headsets, better support for other BT things such as
keyboards/gpses

Peter
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[maemo-users] Re: [maemo-developers] Future features for Maemo Desktop (Task Navigator, Home, Status bar)?

2006-08-18 Thread 3rdshift
Karoliina,

I can think of a couple of badly missing features such as:

   An applet that would watch the resources availabitily and warn a user if
   launching yet another window or application would definitely cause
   a lockdown (followed by imminent reboot). I have seen enough reports
   from the end-users complaining that the system is not stable even with
   IT2006 update. The fact is that the most of them are not aware of the scarce
   OS resources they hold in their hands. A notification applet to make them
   aware would help thwart off future negative reviews and general confusion.

   Also, I would love to have a voice recorder developed by Nokia integrated
   for the next desktop update. It seems like the developers try and don't 
   have enough information about gstreamer/DSP to come up with robust
   recorder. All hardware elements are there - I guess the general lack of
   knowledge about its internals and gstreamer framework in general have
   prevented from developing such an application so far.

   And lastly, the Task Navigator bar width should be configurable. There is 
   no reason for its fattness as it is - it is just a waste of desktop 
realstate, IMHO.

   Also, perhaps a docking station developed by Nokia for future models
   might be a boon for the end-users.

Thanks for all the tireless good work, responsiveness, and a chance for 
community to comment and participate in 770's evolvment process.

-Vlad

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From: "Karoliina Salminen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Hello everybody,
> 
> I am now collecting some ideas for future development of the UI framework.
> 
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Re: [maemo-users] Check battery level

2006-08-18 Thread Ian Malcom
Hi,

I've been trying to figure out the battery power level
programmatically for weeks now :( Would it be possible
for someone to post the source of the program that
does this?

Thanks a lot!!
Ian

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Re: [maemo-users] Future features for Maemo Desktop (Task Navigator, Home, Status bar)?

2006-08-18 Thread Jack Jansen
Probably mainly interesting to developers (and other Linux-savvy  
people) but I'd like better integration between the desktop  
applications and the XTerm.


This doesn't have to be very fancy, MacOSX provides pretty good  
integration with just a few minimal measures:
- The "open" command (from the command line) will open lots of files  
(and directories, and urls), selecting the application to use with  
the same database as used for double-clicking.
- Dragging an  icon from the finder to XTerm will paste the pathname  
there.
- Desktop apps can be started from the command line, and will accept  
a filename to open when run in that way (implemented in the GUI  
framework by simulating an open command, not something every app  
needs to care about).
- Even though the Finder doesn't normally show the geeky unix  
directories you can open them with the shell "open" command or by  
typing their pathname into a special dialog. This allows you to use  
standard UI tools (such as the minimal text editor) on things they  
can't normally reach.

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[maemo-users] Python Serial

2006-08-18 Thread Michael Duergner
Hi there,

could anyone tell me which steps I would have to do in order to be able to make 
a serial connection with the Python for Maemo? I read that I would have to 
reintroduce the termios packages but to be honest I`m not that familiar with 
that stuff.

Thanks a lot.

Michael

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RE: [maemo-users] Future features for Maemo Desktop (Task Navigator, Home, Status bar)?

2006-08-18 Thread Karoliina.T.Salminen
Hello,

Thanks for your feature proposals for Maemo Desktop so far.
I'll be collecting them next week, so please keep posting them over the
weekend.

I am glad to note that some of the proposed features are by the way
already being implemented to Sardine. But more on that later. 

Anything about the basic usability of Task Navigator & Status bar combo
for example. Would you like to see some other kind of arrangement or is
this current one good? Also how about the application switcher, would
you like it to be something different or are you happy with the current
one, if you would like it to be different, please describe how?

Please keep posting your ideas, your opinion does matter!

Best Wishes,
Karoliina
http://www.karoliinasalminen.com/blog

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[maemo-users] Future features for Maemo Desktop

2006-08-18 Thread crawdad
I'd like to see the "home" button rotate among the desktop and all running apps rather than merely min- and max-imizing the last app to get the screen...
Perhaps with a 1 second (better, user-configurable delay) popup identifying _which_ app will maximize (pop to the desktop) unless home is pressed again.
 
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[maemo-users] Re: [maemo-developers] Future features for Maemo Desktop (Task Navigator, Home, Status bar)?

2006-08-18 Thread Vladislav Grinchenko
On Fri, 2006-08-18 at 15:33 +0200, koos vriezen wrote:
> 2006/8/18, Karoliina Salminen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > Hello everybody,
> >
> > I am now collecting some ideas for future development of the UI framework.
> >
> > If you have any features that you'd like to see in the future in the
> > components mentioned on the topic (Task Navigator, Home, Status bar),
> > please send your feature requests/ideas to me: karoliina.t.salminen at
> > nokia.com or reply them on this list for further discussion. So now is
> > your chance to affect to which direction you'd like us to develop the
> > desktop UI framework.
> 
> What I would like is the filedialog keeping it's current directory, so
> not starting at scratch all the time within an application. That also
> includes the loading of the iconlist, which btw. is rather slow as
> well.
> 

I would second that request. Also, while on a subject, the file browser
needs an optional 'View as list' option similar to the one found in
nautilus.

-Vlad

P.S. Also, a native desktop support for landscape->portrait rotation
would be really nice.
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[maemo-users] Future features for Maemo Desktop (Task Navigator, Home, Status bar)?

2006-08-18 Thread Andrew Turner

Not sure if this fits into the "desktop" - but I would like the
ability to rotate the entire screen to hold it "vertically".

- Reorder, hide/show toolbar items

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[maemo-users] Re: [maemo-developers] Future features for Maemo Desktop (Task Navigator, Home, Status bar)?

2006-08-18 Thread koos vriezen

2006/8/18, Karoliina Salminen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

Hello everybody,

I am now collecting some ideas for future development of the UI framework.

If you have any features that you'd like to see in the future in the
components mentioned on the topic (Task Navigator, Home, Status bar),
please send your feature requests/ideas to me: karoliina.t.salminen at
nokia.com or reply them on this list for further discussion. So now is
your chance to affect to which direction you'd like us to develop the
desktop UI framework.


What I would like is the filedialog keeping it's current directory, so
not starting at scratch all the time within an application. That also
includes the loading of the iconlist, which btw. is rather slow as
well.

The second issue is more a think-about thingy and that's the
scrollbar. I think that scrollbars don't port so well for touch
screens (and no mouse). Scroll keys would help but are often for other
usages.
I think the old X style MMB, that when cliched actually scrolled to
that position, is already a big improvement. Maybe it's already
configurable somewhere?
A quick idea is eg.
 |   a   |  b | c  |d|e|XX|f|g| h | i | j   |
where XX is the scrollbutton, e and g the area when clicked a half
page scroll, d and g a full page scroll, c and h two pages scroll,
etc. and finally a and j are acting like MBB when clicked. Has to be
recalculated on each position/viewport sizes changes.

The above reminds me that dragging, like with the home applets, simply
are unusable.

Regards,
Koos
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Re: [maemo-users] Future features for Maemo Desktop (Task Navigator, Home, Status bar)?

2006-08-18 Thread Marius Gedminas
On Fri, Aug 18, 2006 at 11:39:17AM +0300, Karoliina Salminen wrote:
> I am now collecting some ideas for future development of the UI framework.

My wishes/ideas:

* An option to reorder/hide statusbar icons

* An ability to close an application without switching to it.  Holding
  down the stylus on an app icon shows a popup with the app name; it
  could be a menu with an additional "Close" option

* A "Blank screen" option in the device mode menu (without locking the
  keyboard).

* Home key to open the task menu (the one at the bottom left, labeled >>)
  instead of showing the desktop

* Application launchers on the home screen

* An option to connect to the Internet using the default/strongest wifi
  network in the popup menu of the connectivity statusbar icon.

* Battery applet popup showing a more precise charge percentage and
  estimated time left.

* Robustness when plugins crash: currently the device reboots, which
  causes a certain problem when a home page applet crashes immediatelly
  on boot.

Marius Gedminas
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Re: [maemo-users] Re: [maemo-developers] Future features for Maemo Desktop (Task Navigator, Home, Status bar)?

2006-08-18 Thread Jorge Salamero Sanz
On Friday 18 August 2006 13:18, Alfonso F R wrote:
> Some have been posted to Karoliina'a blog at:
> http://www.karoliinasalminen.com/blog/?p=133

also posted in the blog, but:

In the Nokia770 like every PDA, PIM is a very important target, these are some 
points I think are missing:
* support and integrate gpg support: mail reader, im client, passwd wallet
 * mail client doesn’t fetch all imap4 folders from the server
 * im is very important: we need aim, msn, icq and yahoo
 * voip is more important: we need a free sip client
 * contact should store personal information about the contact, not only for 
email and im: website, birthday, phone numbers, address, relationships …
GPE port it’s nice, also gaim. but in a PDA users want integration: im, mail, 
voip, contacts, tasks, calendar …
some other things:
 * signal level for wifi and bluetooth, yes i would be nice
 * battery apple should show time to complete the charge
 * i still question myself why i’ve to disconnect to change the ip from the 
gui. network configuration is too far from the desktop
 * the default player should support all formats that gstreamer can play, not 
only mp3: vorbis, flac, speex, musepack …
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[maemo-users] Re: [maemo-developers] Future features for Maemo Desktop (Task Navigator, Home, Status bar)?

2006-08-18 Thread Alfonso F R
Some have been posted to Karoliina'a blog at:http://www.karoliinasalminen.com/blog/?p=133Additionaly:- X-eyes? (just joking, obviously a tactile screen does not take advantage of such)  - It is not directly related, but we are still starving for having Flash 8 embedded into Opera so we can play streamed video from YouTube and other sites. If just people know they could use Nokia 770 as a wifi portable global TV apparatus...A copy of the feature request follows:It would be very useful to have:  -A WiFi (and Bluetotth) signal strength indicator embedded into the top right “connectivity” icon similar to the battery and brightness ones -Official task manager integrating RAM/CPU load and clock -Easy drag&drop repositioning of app-links, specially for moving around installed applications between menu folders and for arranging them within a folder -Ability to reduce the menu font size -I’d move the
 “Contacts” menu folder contents to the second top left icon for simplicity -Definitely having the option for easily creating a link to a executable program file or script would be of great help -Having the posibility to navigate the whole linux file system from the graphical file manager (maybe inactive by default and activable through an option within the control panel or something like that) -2 or more Virtual Desktops as in linux-powered desktop-PCs -Not related, but having a different “fortune cookie” message and salutation displayed every time I powered on my device would be great for me (using the traditional fortunes from Unix, with the option to turn it off) Can’t think of more know. Getting half of these implemented would be gorgeus =)Regards   ###  VISITA MI BLOG:  http://alfonsoycia.blogspot.com/  ### 
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[maemo-users] RE:Future features for Maemo Desktop (Task Navigator, Home, Status bar)?

2006-08-18 Thread Vern Gillespie
Karoliina,

Thanks for asking for input.  I would appreciate if you made it easier on
the Nokia 770 to go into "USB Host" mode.  A simple script that is somewhat
hidden but could be easily be invoked in a manner like the Palm OS's
graffiti shortcuts would be great.   I realize Nokia configured the USB port
to slave only to save battery life.
http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,16650-page,2/article.html

Please also add more functionality to the "Notes" application and add a
spreadsheet, small database or wiki to your bundled OS applications.   Think
how useful a database or wiki would be for tracking recipes, incident
tickets...  Thanks for coming out with the Nokia 770.  It is such a very
innovative device.

Thanks - Vern Gillespie
Productivity For Handhelds, LLC
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Subject: [maemo-users] Future features for Maemo Desktop (Task
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To: maemo-developers@maemo.org
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Hello everybody,

I am now collecting some ideas for future development of the UI framework.

If you have any features that you'd like to see in the future in the
components mentioned on the topic (Task Navigator, Home, Status bar),
please send your feature requests/ideas to me: karoliina.t.salminen at
nokia.com or reply them on this list for further discussion. So now is
your chance to affect to which direction you'd like us to develop the
desktop UI framework. Also if you have any ideas for plug-in APIs,
bindings etc. anything you'd wish  to see there in the future, please let
me know. The sooner the better, so if you have something in your mind now,
please let me know now (meaning Today if possible).

No matter if you are developer or end user or both, I am waiting for your
ideas and comments with a great interest - "What do you want?". Thanks in
advance!

Best Wishes,
Karoliina Salminen
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Re: [maemo-users] Application manager review

2006-08-18 Thread Alfonso F R
I'm answering you below:That looks like a problem with your network in general.  I have neverseen the AM block on its own when a download fails for some reason.It is, however, very possible that the download itself blocksbecause of bad connectivity.  The download will eventually timeout inthe kernel.That is surely the reason, as I was connected against a router handling many P2P connections. ¿Any chance of pushing up the timeout window for the AM?Also, the AM will attempt to download from different servers inparallel, just like "apt-get update".  So, if one of the servers doesnot respond, and the download doesn't finish, you should be able tocancel it at that point and the already downloaded repository indicesshould be used (contrary to the error message that says that the "Lastrefreshed list is shown".)So, the indices are updated for all the repos except for the ones which do fail, OR for all the repos before the one that fails? How do I know if the AM is actually doing something or just waiting until timeout occurs for all the missed repositories?There is a new feature coming where repositories can be added to theAM by just clicking on a link in the web browser.  (You can alsoinstall packages that way.)Looking forward this feature =) Somewhere in list I read that users should forget the previous proccess for installing packages and do it all through repositories. Is there any danger in using .DEB/.ARM files instead of the AM? Maybe any of them would not be listed/ posible to uninstall/get their dependencies checked?I agree that the error reporting when a "Refresh list of packages"fails could be much improved.  It's in the queue...I'm
 pretty sure that queue is miles long... is one of the wonderful things about open source software that it may and shall be improved in so many different ways, all round the world, all round the clock :)))Hmm, a tree-view doesn't fit with the "bread crumb trail" (or"navbar") approach of the AM according to our UI people.  However,they seem to like the "Tag Cloud"idea... (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tag_cloud).Haha, my vote goes for the flickr-like tag-cloud (if it does not burst the 250 MHz CPU down to ashes, of course ;)Hopefully, it iseasy enough for developers to put packages into the
 "contrib"repository associated with garage.maemo.org, for example.  Also, the"single-click-install" feature mentioned above should help.I am also wondering whether there will be easy-to-update kernel, libraries & applications updated for this platform. Surely many Linux users are looking forward a visual user-friendly tool for the updating of their kernels and that could initiate a two-way applications-porting flux from maemo to the rest of the linux universe...Thanks for your time and attention!Regards,P.S: I`m too looking forward a lightweight port of the gnumeric spreadsheet for IT2006 -> one of the most useful application of all times on the palm of my hand  ###  VISITA
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[maemo-users] Re: [maemo-developers] Future features for Maemo Desktop (Task Navigator, Home, Status bar)?

2006-08-18 Thread Chris Lord
On Fri, 2006-08-18 at 11:39 +0300, Karoliina Salminen wrote:
> Hello everybody,
> 
> I am now collecting some ideas for future development of the UI framework.
> 
> If you have any features that you'd like to see in the future in the
> components mentioned on the topic (Task Navigator, Home, Status bar),
> please send your feature requests/ideas to me: karoliina.t.salminen at
> nokia.com or reply them on this list for further discussion. So now is
> your chance to affect to which direction you'd like us to develop the
> desktop UI framework. Also if you have any ideas for plug-in APIs,
> bindings etc. anything you'd wish  to see there in the future, please let
> me know. The sooner the better, so if you have something in your mind now,
> please let me know now (meaning Today if possible).
> 
> No matter if you are developer or end user or both, I am waiting for your
> ideas and comments with a great interest - "What do you want?". Thanks in
> advance!

I'd like to see a launcher home-applet - something that'd provide an
icon-view of applications on the home screen. Also, an official clock
systray applet would be nice. A better API for hibernation would be nice
too :)

I guess Opera feature requests are out of your hands, but if not, I'd
really like a 'close window' or 'window chooser' button in the toolbar
for full-screen mode - it's the only thing missing for me (currently
only accessible via the menu hardware key).

--Chris


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[maemo-users] Future features for Maemo Desktop (Task Navigator, Home, Status bar)?

2006-08-18 Thread Karoliina Salminen
Hello everybody,

I am now collecting some ideas for future development of the UI framework.

If you have any features that you'd like to see in the future in the
components mentioned on the topic (Task Navigator, Home, Status bar),
please send your feature requests/ideas to me: karoliina.t.salminen at
nokia.com or reply them on this list for further discussion. So now is
your chance to affect to which direction you'd like us to develop the
desktop UI framework. Also if you have any ideas for plug-in APIs,
bindings etc. anything you'd wish  to see there in the future, please let
me know. The sooner the better, so if you have something in your mind now,
please let me know now (meaning Today if possible).

No matter if you are developer or end user or both, I am waiting for your
ideas and comments with a great interest - "What do you want?". Thanks in
advance!

Best Wishes,
Karoliina Salminen
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http://www.karoliinasalminen.com/blog
_karoliina.t.salminen at nokia.com_


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[maemo-users] WPA-PSK: hex key vs. passphrase

2006-08-18 Thread David Carbonell
I'd like to request support for EAP-TTLS support for the Nokia 770.  At Columbia University Medical Center, we only use EAP-TTLS for wireless/mobile internet.  I want to connect to the internet via the EAP-TTLS to find medicines or check conditions of patients, much less check my email while I'm rounding.  Thanks! David Carbonell[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___
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[maemo-users] can't write on mmc

2006-08-18 Thread Krischan Keitsch
Hi List,

the filemanager as well as mc tells me that I can't write on my 1g mmc. It 
pretends to be 'write only'.
How can that be? Even as root. mount doesn't tell me anything about ro or rw. 
Does it have to do with the vfat filesystem? Could I also use ext2 or even 
ext3? 
any help is aprechiated. Thank you!

Krischan


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