RE: Where does development environment run?
Hi, The scratchbox is cross compilation environment for your PC. Because of the limited space on the device, it is very hard to put the development environment there and it would be very slow too. So the compilation usually happens on your PC where you can also test it until you see it it finished enough for testing on device. Then you simply copy the binary or package to the device and run it there. It is not hard. Best Regards, Karoliina -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12 April, 2007 20:08 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Where does development environment run? I'm not (yet) a maemo user, but a prospective one. Does the software development environment actually run on the Nokis 770 or 800, or is it necessary to cross-compile from another Linux machine (such as one of my my Debian etch PCs) -- hendrik ___ maemo-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Hildon Desktop for desktop Linux? Anybody tried yet?
Hello, Has anybody tried to compile Hildon Desktop for their Linux (e.g. Ubuntu?) yet? Lucas and I have blogged about it sometime ago. Any experiences/comments/questions/whatever to share? The instructions written by Lucas can be found through my lauchpad specification that I started when Lucas got some progress on his port: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/hildon-desktop-for-ubuntu I think the Hildon Desktop would be pretty good for use as user interface for UMPCs, tablet PCs etc. running some Linux distro (if operated using the touch screen). Added benefit would be that the applets/plugins made for Nokia devices would also run on the PC and also the applets made for the PC would run on the Nokia device (python applets would run out of the box without recompilation even). Best Regards, Karoliina ___ maemo-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Correction: [Fwd: Another Bluetooth Keyboard?]
All, here is the url to the www page for the tabletkiosk bluetooth keyboard that was missing from the attached message: http://www.tabletkiosk.com/tkstore/pc/viewPrd.asp?idcategory=24idproduct=155#details Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks Original Message Subject:Another Bluetooth Keyboard? Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2007 18:11:14 -0400 From: Acadia Secure Networks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: Acadia Secure Networks To: maemo-users [EMAIL PROTECTED] All, I found the following bluetooth keyboard at the Tabletkiosk www site. It looks like it may be rebadged/relogoed product of another supplier so their might be nothing new here: Also, for those considering the Igo Thinkoutside Bluetooth keyboard, here is the url to a video that demonstrates its use after some introduction video fluff: http://media.libsyn.com/media/gottabemobile/tokb.wmv -- Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks ___ maemo-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: VNC
On Fri, Apr 13, 2007 at 02:21:28PM +0100, Jim Avery wrote: On 02/04/07, Willie McKemie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone had any luck using the 800 VNC viewer on a Ubuntu server? I've tried both Ubuntu 6.10 and 7.04 and can only get could not connect to server. On the 7.04, I tried both the vncserver and vnc4server packages. To get vnc4server working on Ubuntu, I installed Xubuntu on top (to get the xfce window manager) then followed the instructions here: http://grumpymole.blogspot.com/2006/12/xubuntu-remote-desktop-with-vnc4server.html but found I also had to downgrade xvnc4server like so: http://grumpymole.blogspot.com/2007/02/edgy-and-feisty-vnc4server-still-not.html Works fine with my n770. Can't say if it would on the n800. Thanks for the information! After reading grumpymole, I installed x11vnc on one of my Ubuntus (7.04) and then vncviewer on my 770. It works well! My wife is out of town with my 800 right now. -- Willie, ONWARD! Through the fog! http://counter.li.org Linux registered user #228836 since 1995 Debian3.1/GNU/Linux system uptime 390 days 15 hours 53 minutes ___ maemo-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Where does development environment run?
Because of the limited space on the device, it is very hard to put the development environment there and it would be very slow too. So the compilation usually happens on your PC where you can also test it until you see it it finished enough for testing on device. Another bonus: it's much more difficult to put your PC into an infinite reboot loop with a bug in your code. ;-) -- It doesn't take a nukular scientist to pronounce foilage! --Marge Simpson http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/shouldbefree.html ___ maemo-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [SPAM?] Re: Wifi vrs Bluetooth power = maemo mapper experience
I use the Nokia LD-3W which is a SiRF chipset, but there's no display and no way to select options I'm aware of... Maemo is OK for me... My main issue is retaining the GPS connection -- not to mention the cellular connection around my house as there are big dark areas without coverage. I wish Maemo was better for Point to Point Navigation, rather than you are here. The NavKit looks cool, but it's going to be $239 here in the US which is a lot considering similar applications on S60 are more like $99 - though annually. Even with a 1GB card, it seems way overpriced. On 4/13/07, Michel Brabants [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I wasn't downloading maps automatically. I didn't have all the locations cached. Only around the area where I started I did have the roads cached. I wouldn't want to enable auto-download when I'm mapping, because it will crash maemo-mapper when I want to save the track then (I openened 2 bugs at the maemo-mapper-tracker). It sometimes indeed moves a little bit when standing still. It will depend on your gps-receiver probably. The sirf-ones have to be set in a special mode when you're walking (going slowly, ..). Else they may jump some metres or so sudenly, I thought. Normally mine (mtk-chipset), there isn't such an option and it should work well always. I want to promote it a little bit indeed :). Maemo-mapper is a nice program, but it crashes too much to my taste. I would like to adapt it or write a new program to make it (also) more suitable for openstreetmap-mapping. Greetings, Michel Op Friday 13 April 2007, schreef Jonathan Greene: were you downloading maps on the go over cellular or had you cached in advance? I find Maemo (or perhaps my GPS) seems to think I am moving at times when I am sitting still -- like at my desk. With tracks on, I can see my location float a bit... otherwise, it's a very cool program. On 4/12/07, Michel Brabants [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I just had a trip to Frankfurt for my company and took the N800 with me. I used it to map the road and a colleague used it to browse the web for a second (ebay). I looked at the screen from time to time, ... The trip took around 3 hours, but I also used it during the evening to get some food and back and also to go to the hotel. In total maybe around 5 hours for mapping and looking where to go (Tomtom failed at a moment and we didn't know that a reset would help ... and radio-navigationsystem doesn't have precise maps of Germany. So, 2 gps-systems and maemo-mapper to the rescue :).). Anyway, I'm very pleased of battery-time. I didn't use Wlan really yet however. So, I can't comment on the Wlan. For the rest, I'm very happy up till now to have bought the device. Greetings, Michel Op Thursday 12 April 2007, schreef Laurent GUERBY: FWIW, my globalsat BT-359 GPS linked via bluetooth to my N800 running maemo mapper on during a whole Paris-Toulouse-Castres TGV (high speed train) trip ran on one charge taking 19910 data points from 2007-04-06T08:25:02+02:00 to 2007-04-06T15:11:46+02:00 so a bit less than 7 hours, resulting .gpx file is 2.6MB for about one data point per second. I turned the N800 off with one bar left when I reached the end of my trip. I turned on the screen from time to time to see the speed of the train so this is not a bluetooth only check, and maemo mapper was running of course. The only thing is that I had to switch sound off because top speed warning in maemo mapper is limited to 300 km/hour and the TGV is sometimes above it during the trip :). All in all I assume bluetooth doesn't consume that much. Let us know your experience. Laurent http://guerby.org/blog/ On Thu, 2007-04-12 at 12:37 +0900, Brenton Bills wrote: Greetings folks, Well there has been a bit of talk on WIFI power usage for the N800, just wondering if it uses less power than bluetooth or the same or what? Also wondering if the N800 can listen to bluetooth requests while in sleep mode or if that would just kill the battery too quick or even if thats possible? I was thinking of seeing how difficult it would be to be to push say nagios alerts to the N800 over bluetooth and cause it to wake up if it gets such a request? Pushing stuff from my computer to the N800 would be cool. ___ maemo-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- Jonathan Greene m 917.560.3000 AIM / iChat - atmasphere gtalk / jabber - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gizmo - JonathanGreene blogs -
Pimlico
Just saw this: URL:http://maemo.o-hand.com/ Prebuilt N800 / N770 packages at URL:http://maemo.o-hand.com/ Calendar and Contacts so far. mathew -- URL:http://www.pobox.com/~meta/ ___ maemo-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
N800 Now available at Amazon.com
All, fyi. http://www.amazon.com/Nokia-N800-Internet-Tablet-PC/dp/B000MK4GGM/ref=pd_sim_e_2/104-8012879-4200723?ie=UTF8qid=1176494479sr=8-1 with plenty of commentary on pros and cons. -- Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks ___ maemo-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Hildon Desktop for desktop Linux? Anybody tried yet?
Am Fri, 13 Apr 2007 14:13:02 +0300 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello, Has anybody tried to compile Hildon Desktop for their Linux (e.g. Ubuntu?) yet? Lucas and I have blogged about it sometime ago. Any experiences/comments/questions/whatever to share? Hello, i played with that a couple days ago. The first problem was fixed by a hint from Lucas. The last problem was ( was and is, because i had no time to examine the error ) a error with the jhbuild. - [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/maemo-gtk-2-10/hildon-1/hildon-desktop/maemo-af-desktop-l10n/hildon-theme-cacher/hildon-theme-tools/hildon-theme-layout-4/hildon-theme-plankton/sapwood/libmatchbox/matchbox-window-manager/jhbuild$ svn co https://stage.maemo.org/svn/maemo/projects/haf/jhbuild_modules Ajhbuild_modules/maemo_freedesktop.modules A jhbuild_modules/maemo.modules Ajhbuild_modules/ChangeLog Ajhbuild_modules/hildon-desktop.jhbuildrc Ajhbuild_modules/hildon-desktop.modules Ajhbuild_modules/README Ausgecheckt, Revision 10983. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/maemo-gtk-2-10/hildon-1/hildon-desktop/maemo-af-desktop-l10n/hildon-theme-cacher/hildon-theme-tools/hildon-theme-layout-4/hildon-theme-plankton/sapwood/libmatchbox/matchbox-window-manager/jhbuild$ cd [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/maemo-gtk-2-10/hildon-1/hildon-desktop/maemo-af-desktop-l10n/hildon-theme-cacher/hildon-theme-tools/hildon-theme-layout-4/hildon-theme-plankton/sapwood/libmatchbox/matchbox-window-manager/jhbuild/jhbuild_modules$ jhbuild -f ./hildon-desktop.jhbuildrc -m ./hildon-desktop.modules build bash: jhbuild: command not found [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/maemo-gtk-2-10/hildon-1/hildon-desktop/maemo-af-desktop-l10n/hildon-theme-cacher/hildon-theme-tools/hildon-theme-layout-4/hildon-theme-plankton/sapwood/libmatchbox/matchbox-window-manager/jhbuild/jhbuild_modules$ cd libhildon bash: cd: libhildon: No such file or directory [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/maemo-gtk-2-10/hildon-1/hildon-desktop/maemo-af-desktop-l10n/hildon-theme-cacher/hildon-theme-tools/hildon-theme-layout-4/hildon-theme-plankton/sapwood/libmatchbox/matchbox-window-manager/jhbuild/jhbuild_modules$ jhbuild -f ./hildon-desktop.jhbuildrc -m ./hildon-desktop.modules build bash: jhbuild: command not found [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/maemo-gtk-2-10/hildon-1/hildon-desktop/maemo-af-desktop-l10n/hildon-theme-cacher/hildon-theme-tools/hildon-theme-layout-4/hildon-theme-plankton/sapwood/libmatchbox/matchbox-window-manager/jhbuild/jhbuild_modules$ --- The installation from the repository seems to be done but there is no jhbuild command found. I think i will try it again this week so i will report more experiences in the next few days. br Mathias ___ maemo-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: VNC
On Friday 13 April 2007 06:21:28 Jim Avery wrote: On 02/04/07, Willie McKemie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone had any luck using the 800 VNC viewer on a Ubuntu server? I've tried both Ubuntu 6.10 and 7.04 and can only get could not connect to server. On the 7.04, I tried both the vncserver and vnc4server packages. The repository for doom that is pointed to from downloads.maemo.org seems not to be working correctly. Anyone know another source of doom for OS2007? To get vnc4server working on Ubuntu, I installed Xubuntu on top (to get the xfce window manager) then followed the instructions here: http://grumpymole.blogspot.com/2006/12/xubuntu-remote-desktop-with-vnc4serv er.html but found I also had to downgrade xvnc4server like so: http://grumpymole.blogspot.com/2007/02/edgy-and-feisty-vnc4server-still-not .html Works fine with my n770. Can't say if it would on the n800. Cheers, Jim I use VNC all the time to connect to Ubuntu/Kubuntu RHEL SuSE and WinXP (even via a vpn) It works without effort for me. In an xterm on the remote box do vncxerver -depth 16 -geometry 800x348 that starts a session with a window/desktop the size of my 770 screen ( minux the hildon area's) then I do (from the Nokia using xterm so I can watch for errors) vncviewer [ip or FQDN of remote box]:1 (your desktop number may vary it will tell you what number to use read the xterm output) enter the password when asked and connect. On windows you have to click icons and fuss with gui's so it's a bit longer to connect and it is always :0 It works with any WM around. James -- (o_ //\ V_/_ Linuxrebel ___ maemo-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Pimlico
The distro information is slightly confused, for N800 it is: Web address: http://maemo.o-hand.com Distribution: packages Components: bora - Original Message From: mathew [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: maemo-users [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 4:02:35 AM Subject: Pimlico Just saw this: URL:http://maemo.o-hand.com/ Prebuilt N800 / N770 packages at URL:http://maemo.o-hand.com/ Calendar and Contacts so far. mathew -- URL:http://www.pobox.com/~meta/ ___ maemo-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ maemo-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
