Re: Fwd: Skype on N800
Skype seen (and pictured) working in the N800 in a Nokia stand at a public event. Isn't this a communication? But before someone jumps to my neck, I will share some ideas in order to put this thread in the right track: - Companies sign agreements when collaborating. In the agreements they define the levels of confidentiality of the collaboration among many other details. - Mixing commercial and proprietary software practices with free and open source software practices might lead very easily to a mismatch of expectations. - maemo is an open source development platform and the maemo team is willing to discuss any topic related to development or open source here or in maemo-developers. - It is fine to discuss in this list issues about proprietary applications for end users, hardware or even accessories. However, if you are looking for official Nokia answers about these topics you better try in the Nokia product page http://nokia.com/n800 and the support channels linked there. - We really don't want to force the community to beg/demand anything. We simply don't have answers for everything as fast as you would like. What we are having here is a complex (and generally fruitful) dialog between a corporation, its customers, a community of developers and a maemo core team. I would say we (all) are not doing bad, and it's improving. Comparing this dialog to the desired practices of community open source development is fine, this is a challenge we want to take. Let's not forget though that our picture is far more complex than most open source projects (volume of code, volume in general, hardware development, global competitors, mainstream products, corporate context, commercial partners...) The positive counterpart of this complexity is that Nokia can bring the open source technologies behind maemo to a next level if this project continues its way to a Nokia-size success. Upstream developers and wise/power users have seen some impact already in the Linux and free desktop context, only two years after maemo and the 770 was announced. PS: You would be surprised how many people work in Finland during July. -- Quim Gil - http://maemo.org ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Fwd: Skype on N800
MoRpHeUz schrieb: Just to say that something like that came to public when we had the announcement of Skype for N800. It said that at the end of the first semester we would have Skype for N800 and if I'm not wrong (I'm not sure about this), somewhere they pointed out that we also should have a firmware release, this is why everybody is talking about this imminent firmware. The end of the first semester was last week. A new announcement / status update wouldn't hurt. Regards, Hanno ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Think Outside Stowaway Bluetooth Wireless Keyboard
works fine, but the keyboard is, as others have pointed out, a little wierd. needs to be because of the limited size, but still gets me at least once a sentence :( On 7/1/07, Dr. Nicholas Shaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes. I have one. There are some anomalies; however, there are, I believe, related to the software on the N800. It works great with some apps and so-so with others. When I say so-so I mean specifically that the function keys may not be supported on the application. Nick. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Leandro Melo de Sales Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2007 10:09 AM To: maemo-users@maemo.org Subject: Think Outside Stowaway Bluetooth Wireless Keyboard Hi, here in the Ottawa Linux Symposium I saw a guy that was using the the Think Outside Stowaway Bluetooth keyboard on this 770. I'd like to know if this keyboard is also supported by N800. http://www.compusa.com/products/product_info.asp?pfp=SEARCHNtt=think+outsid e+keyboardN=0Dx=mode+matchallNty=1D=think+outside+keyboardNtk=Allprodu ct_code=50801445Pn=Stowaway_Bluetooth_Wireless_Keyboard_for_Select_Pocket_P Cs Thanks, Leandro. -- Leandro Melo de Sales. Pervasive and Embedded Computing Laboratory http://embedded.ufcg.edu.br/ +55 083 3310-1404 (extension 208) There are 10 types of people in this world: those who understand binary, those who don't ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Fwd: Skype on N800
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I want to apologize to the entire list and especially to the hardworking N800 folks. My original questions about release of information were misunderstood and were never intended to indict anyone involved. I didn't think that there was anything inflammatory in what I said but perhaps I could have taken more time than I did to better word it. Suffice to say I do understand well the need for secrecy and in no way intended to undermine that. Tablet users should understand that Nokia has reasons for keeping certain details proprietary. My goal was only to ask for some sort of official statement that could be provided to a community eager for any news at all, even bad. I in no way expected that secret details should be made available to the users in any way. I am sorry that I was not careful enough in the wording of my post and provided the wrong impression to some. For the record, I'm not flaming anyone in particular either - well OK, maybe just the whole Nokia Marketing Department! :) The secrecy is understandable where some aspects of development are concerned, but my main point is that Nokia could do more to build some hype about the forthcoming release by dropping a few hints in public, pretty much as Hanno pointed out. Nothing too detailed (although more detail would be nice) - just enough to whet the appetite, and if releases slip to give us a brief update. The Skype seen in public details seem to have been found by chance and not through any concious effort on behalf of Nokia to push this information into the public domain - it's interesting to note that someone found a YouTube video yesterday demonstrating Skype on N800, but it's already been taken down! What's so wrong with building a little interest in the product through some viral marketing? Tantalise your users, allow some word of mouth marketing to take place, torment us with hints, stimulate demand for this product. If something is secret then fair enough don't mention it but where you are able to discuss some great new features coming down the pipe let's hear it - maybe even a YouTube video so bloggers can write about it too! Let's build some (realistic) hype about the future releases in order to help promote this product! The current silence is deafening. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Fwd: Skype on N800
Fortunately a forum user at ITT downloaded the original Skype on N800 YouTube video and has reposted it[1] - power to the people! ;) Skype appears 36 seconds into the video - it's not very clear and quite brief but this kind of thing (or a much improved version) would do wonders to get people talking about the N800... 1. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcrcLSae-t0 ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
HP iPAQ BT keyboard
I haven't been able to pair the subject keyboard with my 800. I'm pretty sure it's just cockpit error. Can someone tell my what I'm doing wrong? The 800 searches for and finds the BT-foldableKB. I select that device and it the 800 assigns a passcode. I then touch OK and then type in the four digit pass code plus return as fast as I can. Invariably, I get Pairing failed Authentication failed Try again?, usually before I've finished typing the five key sequence. And again. And again. -- Willie, ONWARD! Through the fog! http://counter.li.org Linux registered user #228836 since 1995 Debian3.1/GNU/Linux system uptime 28 days 13 hours 47 minutes ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
RE: HP iPAQ BT keyboard
I encountered the same problem with my Nokia bt keyboard and the N800. Took something like 20 tries to get past the authentication, but I was eventually successful. Note that I only used 4 characters of my own choosing. Definitely seemed to be a timing issue. Randall (Randy) Arnold Quality Feedback Analyst Nokia-CMO/Dallas -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ext Willie McKemie Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 1:27 PM To: maemo-users@maemo.org Subject: HP iPAQ BT keyboard I haven't been able to pair the subject keyboard with my 800. I'm pretty sure it's just cockpit error. Can someone tell my what I'm doing wrong? The 800 searches for and finds the BT-foldableKB. I select that device and it the 800 assigns a passcode. I then touch OK and then type in the four digit pass code plus return as fast as I can. Invariably, I get Pairing failed Authentication failed Try again?, usually before I've finished typing the five key sequence. And again. And again. -- Willie, ONWARD! Through the fog! http://counter.li.org Linux registered user #228836 since 1995 Debian3.1/GNU/Linux system uptime 28 days 13 hours 47 minutes ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: HP iPAQ BT keyboard
On Mon, Jul 02, 2007 at 01:08:34PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I encountered the same problem with my Nokia bt keyboard and the N800. Took something like 20 tries to get past the authentication, but I was eventually successful. Note that I only used 4 characters of my own choosing. Definitely seemed to be a timing issue. Thanks for the comments. After reading them, I discovered that I could specify a passcode. I tried again, this time with a passcode of to make the typing go faster. Now, instead of Authentication failed, I get Device resources exceeded. Also tried a single digit passcode of 9. It now seems random whether I get resources exceeded or Authentication failed. Come on, someone out there, either there is something I don't understand about BT pairing or there is a bug. Someone tell me! I haven't been able to pair the subject keyboard with my 800. I'm pretty sure it's just cockpit error. Can someone tell my what I'm doing wrong? The 800 searches for and finds the BT-foldableKB. I select that device and it the 800 assigns a passcode. I then touch OK and then type in the four digit pass code plus return as fast as I can. Invariably, I get Pairing failed Authentication failed Try again?, usually before I've finished typing the five key sequence. And again. And again. -- Willie, ONWARD! Through the fog! http://counter.li.org Linux registered user #228836 since 1995 Debian3.1/GNU/Linux system uptime 28 days 14 hours 16 minutes ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
RE: HP iPAQ BT keyboard
I encountered that error a few times too... Sorry, I forgot to mention that. Sounds like our experiences are identical-- I just hope you get the best of it like I did. Randall (Randy) Arnold Quality Feedback Analyst Nokia-CMO/Dallas -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ext Willie McKemie Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 2:00 PM To: maemo-users@maemo.org Subject: Re: HP iPAQ BT keyboard On Mon, Jul 02, 2007 at 01:08:34PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I encountered the same problem with my Nokia bt keyboard and the N800. Took something like 20 tries to get past the authentication, but I was eventually successful. Note that I only used 4 characters of my own choosing. Definitely seemed to be a timing issue. Thanks for the comments. After reading them, I discovered that I could specify a passcode. I tried again, this time with a passcode of to make the typing go faster. Now, instead of Authentication failed, I get Device resources exceeded. Also tried a single digit passcode of 9. It now seems random whether I get resources exceeded or Authentication failed. Come on, someone out there, either there is something I don't understand about BT pairing or there is a bug. Someone tell me! I haven't been able to pair the subject keyboard with my 800. I'm pretty sure it's just cockpit error. Can someone tell my what I'm doing wrong? The 800 searches for and finds the BT-foldableKB. I select that device and it the 800 assigns a passcode. I then touch OK and then type in the four digit pass code plus return as fast as I can. Invariably, I get Pairing failed Authentication failed Try again?, usually before I've finished typing the five key sequence. And again. And again. -- Willie, ONWARD! Through the fog! http://counter.li.org Linux registered user #228836 since 1995 Debian3.1/GNU/Linux system uptime 28 days 14 hours 16 minutes ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: HP iPAQ BT keyboard
Willie McKemie wrote: Can someone tell my what I'm doing wrong? Perhaps going onward through the fog without consulting manual or doing basic google search? ;-) http://www.google.com/search?q=n800+HP+iPAQ+BT+keyboard Frantisek ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
