RE: getting to a command line on the n800

[Jakub.Pavelek]

Hi,
 
there should be an xterm application available from extras repository
and also in the application catalogue, e.g. this one:
http://maemo.org/downloads/product/osso-xterm-advanced
 
Br,
 
--jakub




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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ext Christopher
Marshall
Sent: 11 July, 2007 06:35
To: maemo-users@maemo.org
Subject: getting to a command line on the n800


I am a long time linux user and just got my hands on my n800.

How do I get to a command line?

I put the n800 in red pill mode.  I can see that I have busy-box
installed already but I don't see how to get to it.

I attempted to install bash but I get a message that there is an
application conflict.

Chris Marshall



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RE: [Fwd: Re: weird? problem with memory reporting after firmwareupgrade]

[Jakub.Pavelek]

Hi,

Pretty much on spot. No silent updates. For critical updates a new
flashable image would be released. Obviously this is far from end-user's
optimal solution and a better solution is in the works but not deployed
yet.

Br,

--jakub


>
>I would doubt any updates are silent.
>
>These kinds of updates must be visible to end user so I would 
>assume AppManager...but this only shows apps needing 
>updating...not low level cruft.
>
>So perhaps user would need to be instructed to switch to red 
>pill mode temporarily to get a certain lib or whatnot.
>
>Then again nokia could certainly pkg fixes as a 1st class app 
>and not require red pill...which is what they would prob' have 
>to do for ease of use in general. For critical updates I would 
>have to assume user wouldn't need red pill.
>
>I am not most knowledgeable on this matter though...speculation.
>
>
>mike
>>  Original Message 
>> Subject: Re: weird? problem with memory reporting after 
>firmware upgrade
>> Date:Tue, 10 Jul 2007 20:01:26 -0400
>> From:Acadia Secure Networks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Reply-To:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Organization:Acadia Secure Networks
>> To:  Mike Klein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> References:  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>
>>
>>
>> Mike,
>>
>> how does Nokia incorporate/distribute bug fixes in between releases 
>> like the one which just occurred?
>>
>> Are bug fixes silently downloaded/installed automatically or 
>does the 
>> user have to take some action to install them, for example, by means 
>> of a special repository for Nokia bug fixes? How can I tell if I am 
>> getting the bug fixes in the Nokia firmware?
>>
>>
>> Best Regards,
>>
>>  
>>
>> John Holmblad
>>
>>  
>>
>> Acadia Secure Networks
>>
>>
>>  
>>
>>
>>
>> Mike Klein wrote:
>>   
>>> I'll be a good boy and starting visiting bug system from now on.
>>>
>>> I updated bug descr to indicate latest firmware still has 
>>> problem...it seems fix was applied 2 days before release of 
>firmware 
>>> (something like that) so I doubt it is in.
>>>
>>> Hopefully this is visual only and doesn't cause errors when you get 
>>> close to actual limits.
>>>
>>>
>>> mike
>>>
>>> Neil MacLeod wrote:
>>> 
 Mike Klein wrote:
   
   
> My memory usage was at 70% after loading all this stuff 
>per control 
> panel. I recalled thinking this was good as I had put damn near 
> everything I wanted and still had breathing room.
>
> I check this morning memory settings and I see I'm at 27% usage?!?
>
> 
> 
 Have you checked bug 1114[1] - it could be what you are 
>describing. 
 From the vague and confusing comments left in the bug by 
>Nokia/Maemo 
 it's hard to say if it's fixed in this firmware or not, but the 
 chances are it's not (I mean, what was?)

 1. https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1114

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Re: getting to a command line on the n800

[Kahlil Johnson]

get it from here:
http://mg.pov.lt/770/reflash-n800.html

On 7/10/07, Kahlil Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You need the right repository
>
> the app manager will eventually update and you will see it
>
> On 7/10/07, Christopher Marshall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > I am not sure what you mean by standard operations.  I want access to
> > standard linux command line utilities.
> >
> > When going through the application manager's list of installed applications,
> > I don't see osso-xterm, and when going through the list of installable
> > applications I also don't see osso-xterm.  I have repository.maemo.org
> > entered as one of my catalogues.
> >
> > Chris Marshall
> >
> >
> > Ryan Pavlik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >  You don't need the terminal on the N800 to perform standard operations,
> > as I'm sure you've already found out. If you want a terminal, you must
> > install osso-xterm: search maemo.org
> >
> > Ryan
> >
> > Christopher Marshall wrote:
> > > I am a long time linux user and just got my hands on my n800.
> > >
> > > How do I get to a command line?
> > >
> > > I put the n800 in red pill mode. I can see that I have busy-box
> > > installed already but I don't see how to get to it.
> > >
> > > I attempted to install bash but I get a message that there is an
> > > application conflict.
> > >
> > > Chris Marshall
> > >
> > >
> > 
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Re: getting to a command line on the n800

[Kahlil Johnson]

You need the right repository

the app manager will eventually update and you will see it

On 7/10/07, Christopher Marshall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I am not sure what you mean by standard operations.  I want access to
> standard linux command line utilities.
>
> When going through the application manager's list of installed applications,
> I don't see osso-xterm, and when going through the list of installable
> applications I also don't see osso-xterm.  I have repository.maemo.org
> entered as one of my catalogues.
>
> Chris Marshall
>
>
> Ryan Pavlik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  You don't need the terminal on the N800 to perform standard operations,
> as I'm sure you've already found out. If you want a terminal, you must
> install osso-xterm: search maemo.org
>
> Ryan
>
> Christopher Marshall wrote:
> > I am a long time linux user and just got my hands on my n800.
> >
> > How do I get to a command line?
> >
> > I put the n800 in red pill mode. I can see that I have busy-box
> > installed already but I don't see how to get to it.
> >
> > I attempted to install bash but I get a message that there is an
> > application conflict.
> >
> > Chris Marshall
> >
> >
> 
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Re: getting to a command line on the n800

[Christopher Marshall]

I am not sure what you mean by standard operations.  I want access to standard 
linux command line utilities.

When going through the application manager's list of installed applications, I 
don't see osso-xterm, and when going through the list of installable 
applications I also don't see osso-xterm.  I have repository.maemo.org entered 
as one of my catalogues.

Chris Marshall

Ryan Pavlik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: You don't need the terminal on the N800 
to perform standard operations, 
as I'm sure you've already found out.  If you want a terminal, you must 
install osso-xterm: search maemo.org

Ryan

Christopher Marshall wrote:
> I am a long time linux user and just got my hands on my n800.
>
> How do I get to a command line?
>
> I put the n800 in red pill mode.  I can see that I have busy-box 
> installed already but I don't see how to get to it.
>
> I attempted to install bash but I get a message that there is an 
> application conflict.
>
> Chris Marshall
>
> 
>
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Re: getting to a command line on the n800

[Ryan Pavlik]

You don't need the terminal on the N800 to perform standard operations, 
as I'm sure you've already found out.  If you want a terminal, you must 
install osso-xterm: search maemo.org

Ryan

Christopher Marshall wrote:
> I am a long time linux user and just got my hands on my n800.
>
> How do I get to a command line?
>
> I put the n800 in red pill mode.  I can see that I have busy-box 
> installed already but I don't see how to get to it.
>
> I attempted to install bash but I get a message that there is an 
> application conflict.
>
> Chris Marshall
>
> 
>
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getting to a command line on the n800

[Christopher Marshall]

I am a long time linux user and just got my hands on my n800.

How do I get to a command line?

I put the n800 in red pill mode.  I can see that I have busy-box installed 
already but I don't see how to get to it.

I attempted to install bash but I get a message that there is an application 
conflict.

Chris Marshall

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Re: N800 Leather Case

[Mike Klein]

A funny thing I've noticed about the leather cases (and prob' most cases
in general) is none EVER fit perfectly.

On all leather cases I've used for N800 (tested like 4) subtle
imperfections always cause buttons to not exactly be lined up or exposed
fully...not a killer but a flaw nonetheless.

Even a Toshiba laptop bag supposedly MADE for my laptop is a complete
bitch to fit the damn laptop in...sigh. Does anybody use what they create?!?

Get an x-acto and be prepared to make minor cuts to expose buttons
better, etc. Sometimes they cover up with TOO much leather in spots.


mike

Paul Klapperich wrote:
> Oh, shoot!
> http://www.boxwave.com/products/dlsleeve/nokia-n800-designio-leather-sleeve_2569.htm
>
> On 7/10/07, Paul Klapperich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   
>> Is this it? It doesn't look like it has a flap to cover the screen at all in 
>> the pictures.
>>
>> --Paul
>>
>>
>>
>> On 7/10/07, Ryan Pavlik < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 
>>> BoxWave has both a rubberized N800 skin and a leather case - both of
>>> which allow use with the case on.  I have the leather one and it is nice
>>> - even has a magnetically-closed flap to allow the stand to open/be used
>>> with the case on.
>>>
>>> Apparently the official Nokia case is due in 2-3 weeks.
>>>
>>> Ryan
>>>
>>> Mike Klein wrote:
>>>   
 I normally don't get into case/keybd discussions...however I did find a
 fully in-case functional "case" (ahem) for N800.

 Nice black leather? with white stitching and all ports/buttons are
 visible. Case flap can even be flipped around to make it stand on desk
 without resorting to freeing stand on n800 itself.

  
 http://cgi.ebay.com/Leather-Case-for-Nokia-N800-Internet-Tablet-BK-Fully-Pr_W0QQitemZ150139265641QQihZ005QQcategoryZ75432QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

 Just search on nokie leather and black on ebay and you'll find them.
 Sellers are prompt and product is quality.

 I want cases to satisfy two requirements most of the time: ruggedizes
 device AND allows in-case usage.

 For when I'm fishing/kayaking I have a nice AquaPac and I bought a
 neoprene neck strap/lanyard system...can boogie while I'm paddling so
 it's quite effective...now I just need a2dp.


 mike

 Benjamí Villoslada wrote:

 
>>>  >> Finally l've located one leather case that is fine for the N800: CP61
>>>   
> for Nokia 9500.
>
>
>
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Re: N800 Leather Case

[Paul Klapperich]

Oh, shoot!
http://www.boxwave.com/products/dlsleeve/nokia-n800-designio-leather-sleeve_2569.htm

On 7/10/07, Paul Klapperich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Is this it? It doesn't look like it has a flap to cover the screen at all in 
> the pictures.
>
> --Paul
>
>
>
> On 7/10/07, Ryan Pavlik < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > BoxWave has both a rubberized N800 skin and a leather case - both of
> > which allow use with the case on.  I have the leather one and it is nice
> > - even has a magnetically-closed flap to allow the stand to open/be used
> > with the case on.
> >
> > Apparently the official Nokia case is due in 2-3 weeks.
> >
> > Ryan
> >
> > Mike Klein wrote:
> > > I normally don't get into case/keybd discussions...however I did find a
> > > fully in-case functional "case" (ahem) for N800.
> > >
> > > Nice black leather? with white stitching and all ports/buttons are
> > > visible. Case flap can even be flipped around to make it stand on desk
> > > without resorting to freeing stand on n800 itself.
> > >
> > >  
> > > http://cgi.ebay.com/Leather-Case-for-Nokia-N800-Internet-Tablet-BK-Fully-Pr_W0QQitemZ150139265641QQihZ005QQcategoryZ75432QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
> > >
> > > Just search on nokie leather and black on ebay and you'll find them.
> > > Sellers are prompt and product is quality.
> > >
> > > I want cases to satisfy two requirements most of the time: ruggedizes
> > > device AND allows in-case usage.
> > >
> > > For when I'm fishing/kayaking I have a nice AquaPac and I bought a
> > > neoprene neck strap/lanyard system...can boogie while I'm paddling so
> > > it's quite effective...now I just need a2dp.
> > >
> > >
> > > mike
> > >
> > > Benjamí Villoslada wrote:
> > >
> >  >> Finally l've located one leather case that is fine for the N800: CP61
> > >> for Nokia 9500.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
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Re: N800 Leather Case

[Paul Klapperich]

Is this it? It doesn't look like it has a flap to cover the screen at all in
the pictures.

--Paul

On 7/10/07, Ryan Pavlik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


BoxWave has both a rubberized N800 skin and a leather case - both of
which allow use with the case on.  I have the leather one and it is nice
- even has a magnetically-closed flap to allow the stand to open/be used
with the case on.

Apparently the official Nokia case is due in 2-3 weeks.

Ryan

Mike Klein wrote:
> I normally don't get into case/keybd discussions...however I did find a
> fully in-case functional "case" (ahem) for N800.
>
> Nice black leather? with white stitching and all ports/buttons are
> visible. Case flap can even be flipped around to make it stand on desk
> without resorting to freeing stand on n800 itself.
>
>
http://cgi.ebay.com/Leather-Case-for-Nokia-N800-Internet-Tablet-BK-Fully-Pr_W0QQitemZ150139265641QQihZ005QQcategoryZ75432QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
>
> Just search on nokie leather and black on ebay and you'll find them.
> Sellers are prompt and product is quality.
>
> I want cases to satisfy two requirements most of the time: ruggedizes
> device AND allows in-case usage.
>
> For when I'm fishing/kayaking I have a nice AquaPac and I bought a
> neoprene neck strap/lanyard system...can boogie while I'm paddling so
> it's quite effective...now I just need a2dp.
>
>
> mike
>
> Benjamí Villoslada wrote:
>
>> Finally l've located one leather case that is fine for the N800: CP61
>> for Nokia 9500.
>>
>>
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Re: [Fwd: Re: weird? problem with memory reporting after firmware upgrade]

[Mike Klein]

I would doubt any updates are silent.

These kinds of updates must be visible to end user so I would assume
AppManager...but this only shows apps needing updating...not low level
cruft.

So perhaps user would need to be instructed to switch to red pill mode
temporarily to get a certain lib or whatnot.

Then again nokia could certainly pkg fixes as a 1st class app and not
require red pill...which is what they would prob' have to do for ease of
use in general. For critical updates I would have to assume user
wouldn't need red pill.

I am not most knowledgeable on this matter though...speculation.


mike
>  Original Message 
> Subject:  Re: weird? problem with memory reporting after firmware upgrade
> Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 20:01:26 -0400
> From: Acadia Secure Networks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Organization: Acadia Secure Networks
> To:   Mike Klein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> References:   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>
>
> Mike,
>
> how does Nokia incorporate/distribute bug fixes in between releases like 
> the one which just occurred?
>
> Are bug fixes silently downloaded/installed automatically or does the 
> user have to take some action to install them, for example, by means of 
> a special repository for Nokia bug fixes? How can I tell if I am getting 
> the bug fixes in the Nokia firmware?
>
>
> Best Regards,
>
>  
>
> John Holmblad
>
>  
>
> Acadia Secure Networks
>
>
>  
>
>
>
> Mike Klein wrote:
>   
>> I'll be a good boy and starting visiting bug system from now on.
>>
>> I updated bug descr to indicate latest firmware still has problem...it 
>> seems fix was applied 2 days before release of firmware (something 
>> like that) so I doubt it is in.
>>
>> Hopefully this is visual only and doesn't cause errors when you get 
>> close to actual limits.
>>
>>
>> mike
>>
>> Neil MacLeod wrote:
>> 
>>> Mike Klein wrote:
>>>   
>>>   
 My memory usage was at 70% after loading all this stuff per control
 panel. I recalled thinking this was good as I had put damn near
 everything I wanted and still had breathing room.

 I check this morning memory settings and I see I'm at 27% usage?!?

 
 
>>> Have you checked bug 1114[1] - it could be what you are describing. From 
>>> the vague and confusing comments left in the bug by Nokia/Maemo it's hard 
>>> to say if it's fixed in this firmware or not, but the chances are it's not 
>>> (I mean, what was?)
>>>
>>> 1. https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1114
>>>
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Re: kind of off-topic, but not completely: some questions about the N800

[Dr . Nicholas Shaw]

During the day, while at the office, I leave my N800 on and plugged in.  On some occasions it's on and plugged in 7x24.  I've been running it this way since I bought it in January 8.  I've had no problems and the battery life is excellent.
I generally get an easy 5-6 hours.  Of course, I also turn my display brightness down very low when I'm unable to charge for whatever reason.

Nick.

On Tue Jul 10 17:32 , Mike Klein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>sent:


Some comments on 3rd party batter life and recharging below.

Larry Battraw wrote:
> On 4/2/07, andrei raevsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 2) Batteries: Nokia's documentation says that once the batteries are
>> charged
>> the unit should be disconnected (same thing for my Nokia phone,
>> BTW). So
>> does that mean that overnight recharge is not an option? Can/should
>> I run
>> the unit without a battery inside when/if I can? The battery life of
>> the
>> unit (and of my Nokia phone) is, alas, rather short. Has anyone tried
>> purchasing a non-Nokia battery for cheaper and possibly with a longer
>> battery life?
>
> The notice about disconnecting is from an older era in batteries and
> is no longer applicable. You can't run without a battery inside.
> It's really just gambling with your tablet to use non-Nokia batteries;
> some do it with success but it seems like battery life is not as much
> as you'd expect.
>
I purchased a CHEAP (I think $10 or $15) battery from eBay that was
nokia n800 compatible...on full charge I get at best 4 hours rather than
7 of nokia standard. Given it was so cheap this isn't a big deal.
>
>> 7) is there a car charger for the N800?
>
> It's possible to use a car charger intended for a Nokia phone with
> the same (small) power tip as opposed to the older 3.5mm size. It's
> also possible to purchase an adapter to convert the larger tip to the
> smaller type used by the n800.
>
I've found best solution is to use cigarette lighter to power either an
inverter (some come with usb plus 1 or 2 3-prong ac) or usb hub. Since
N800 isn't chargeable via usb (sigh) you need to get a converter on web
which turns usb (full) into mini-usb plus the nokia n800 power plug.
It's a tiny dongle.


mike
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[Fwd: Re: weird? problem with memory reporting after firmware upgrade]

[Acadia Secure Networks]

Mike,

for some reason the original post did not go to the list. Here it is again.

Best Regards,

 

John Holmblad

 

Acadia Secure Networks




 





 Original Message 
Subject:Re: weird? problem with memory reporting after firmware upgrade
Date:   Tue, 10 Jul 2007 20:01:26 -0400
From:   Acadia Secure Networks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Organization:   Acadia Secure Networks
To: Mike Klein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>



Mike,

how does Nokia incorporate/distribute bug fixes in between releases like 
the one which just occurred?

Are bug fixes silently downloaded/installed automatically or does the 
user have to take some action to install them, for example, by means of 
a special repository for Nokia bug fixes? How can I tell if I am getting 
the bug fixes in the Nokia firmware?


Best Regards,

 

John Holmblad

 

Acadia Secure Networks


 



Mike Klein wrote:
> I'll be a good boy and starting visiting bug system from now on.
>
> I updated bug descr to indicate latest firmware still has problem...it 
> seems fix was applied 2 days before release of firmware (something 
> like that) so I doubt it is in.
>
> Hopefully this is visual only and doesn't cause errors when you get 
> close to actual limits.
>
>
> mike
>
> Neil MacLeod wrote:
>> Mike Klein wrote:
>>   
>>> My memory usage was at 70% after loading all this stuff per control
>>> panel. I recalled thinking this was good as I had put damn near
>>> everything I wanted and still had breathing room.
>>>
>>> I check this morning memory settings and I see I'm at 27% usage?!?
>>>
>>> 
>> Have you checked bug 1114[1] - it could be what you are describing. From the 
>> vague and confusing comments left in the bug by Nokia/Maemo it's hard to say 
>> if it's fixed in this firmware or not, but the chances are it's not (I mean, 
>> what was?)
>>
>> 1. https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1114
>>
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Re: kind of off-topic, but not completely: some questions about the N800

[James Sparenberg]

On Tuesday 10 July 2007 16:32:56 Mike Klein wrote:

> >> 7) is there a car charger for the N800?


Yes there is ...sorta.  The phone Nokia 6103 and the n800 use the same 
charger.  I know because I have this phone (it does gprs networking ) So 
the cigarette lighter charger available online or at t-mobile for this phone 
works fine with my n800 and the n770 of my wife.

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Re: kind of off-topic, but not completely: some questions about the N800

[Mike Klein]

Some comments on 3rd party batter life and recharging below.

Larry Battraw wrote:
> On 4/2/07, andrei raevsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 2) Batteries: Nokia's documentation says that once the batteries are
>> charged
>> the unit should be disconnected (same thing for my Nokia phone,
>> BTW).  So
>> does that mean that overnight recharge is not an option?  Can/should
>> I run
>> the unit without a battery inside when/if I can?  The battery life of
>> the
>> unit (and of my Nokia phone) is, alas, rather short.  Has anyone tried
>> purchasing a non-Nokia battery for cheaper and possibly with a longer
>> battery life?
>
>  The notice about disconnecting is from an older era in batteries and
> is no longer applicable.  You can't run without a battery inside.
> It's really just gambling with your tablet to use non-Nokia batteries;
> some do it with success but it seems like battery life is not as much
> as you'd expect.
>
I purchased a CHEAP (I think $10 or $15) battery from eBay that was
nokia n800 compatible...on full charge I get at best 4 hours rather than
7 of nokia standard. Given it was so cheap this isn't a big deal.
>
>> 7) is there a car charger for the N800?
>
>  It's possible to use a car charger intended for a Nokia phone with
> the same (small) power tip as opposed to the older 3.5mm size.  It's
> also possible to purchase an adapter to convert the larger tip to the
> smaller type used by the n800.
>
I've found best solution is to use cigarette lighter to power either an
inverter (some come with usb plus 1 or 2 3-prong ac) or usb hub. Since
N800 isn't chargeable via usb (sigh) you need to get a converter on web
which turns usb (full) into mini-usb plus the nokia n800 power plug.
It's a tiny dongle.


mike
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Re: Flaky connection after upgrade

[Neil MacLeod]

Duncan MacCallum wrote:
> HI,
> Previous ver used to give rock solid wifi connection.
> However after latest firmware upgrade now find connection speeds slow
> and that behind a Belkin preN router connected to 20mb cable
> connection.
> Skype loads but unable to activate calls. Web browsing can at time be
> painfully slow in fact at time notice little difference between wifi
> and gprs connection
> Connection to my wifi router shows at max but something not getting through...
> Unfortunately very much an end user with no previous on linux so
> floundering somewhat.
> Good point is sometimes all is well, but not often enough.
> Just wondering if other are having same problems afters recent upgrade.
> 
> Cheers

Quite a few people have had problems with WiFi following the most recent 
N800/4.2007 release.

Have you checked bug #1636[1]?

1. https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1636

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Re: weird? problem with memory reporting after firmware upgrade

[Mike Klein]

I'll be a good boy and starting visiting bug system from now on.

I updated bug descr to indicate latest firmware still has problem...it
seems fix was applied 2 days before release of firmware (something like
that) so I doubt it is in.

Hopefully this is visual only and doesn't cause errors when you get
close to actual limits.


mike

Neil MacLeod wrote:
> Mike Klein wrote:
>   
>> My memory usage was at 70% after loading all this stuff per control
>> panel. I recalled thinking this was good as I had put damn near
>> everything I wanted and still had breathing room.
>>
>> I check this morning memory settings and I see I'm at 27% usage?!?
>>
>> 
> Have you checked bug 1114[1] - it could be what you are describing. From the 
> vague and confusing comments left in the bug by Nokia/Maemo it's hard to say 
> if it's fixed in this firmware or not, but the chances are it's not (I mean, 
> what was?)
>
> 1. https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1114
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Re: weird? problem with memory reporting after firmware upgrade

[Neil MacLeod]

Mike Klein wrote:
> My memory usage was at 70% after loading all this stuff per control
> panel. I recalled thinking this was good as I had put damn near
> everything I wanted and still had breathing room.
> 
> I check this morning memory settings and I see I'm at 27% usage?!?
> 
Have you checked bug 1114[1] - it could be what you are describing. From the 
vague and confusing comments left in the bug by Nokia/Maemo it's hard to say if 
it's fixed in this firmware or not, but the chances are it's not (I mean, what 
was?)

1. https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1114

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Re: https client auth failing after firmware upgrade?

[Mike Klein]

I didn't restore from backup after firmware upgrade...but yes I tried
clearing all stored data in opera...no go.

Made sure "redirect" was checked in addition to ssl2...tried all combos
and get same results.

CertMgr definitelys shows 2 good (unexpired) user certs signed by CA
name is shows up in my trust store. My web server is DEFINITELY
returning a server cert signed by this CA.

Alas there is no "Tools->Log" in opera ui as there is for
ApplicationManager.

Do we even have centralized logging on n800? I notice /var/logs is
basically empty...I realize memory is  limited...but an
aggresive log rotation policy should solve this I would think.


mike

Josh Smith wrote:
> That's too bad... That's the easy fix.  Does it work if you clear your
> cache, reboot, and then go directly to the web site that wasn't
> working?  Also - have you looked at the certificate manager in the
> control panel for clues?
>
> On 7/10/07, Mike Klein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>  My date/time exactly matches my laptop (and both are correct).
>> 7/10/07 and
>> 1:30 pm...time of post.
>>
>>
>>  mike
>>
>>
>>  Josh Smith wrote:
>>  This seems to be a chronic problem with Opera on the N800. One common
>> fix is to make sure your date and time are set properly - including
>> the date format.
>>
>> I am rather sure there is a bug report on this issue - I think I
>> started it... It seems to have gotten worse though since the upgrade.
>>
>> On 7/10/07, Piotr Zagorowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>  I'm seeing probably the same issue. I'm having problem e.g. with
>> https://www.t-mobile.co.uk
>>
>> first:
>> "This site has sent an untrusted certificate
>> * Certificate cannot identify the server"
>>
>> and then:
>>
>> "Unable to complete secure transaction
>> https://www.t-mobile.co.uk/service/your-account/login/";
>>
>>
>> Pit
>>
>> On 7/10/07, Mike Klein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>  I have a couple of clients certs imported signed by self-signed CA
>> which
>> is also imported as trusted root.
>>
>> My server shows client isn't returning a certificate. The imported certs
>> are trusted for web, email and wlan.
>>
>> Since /var/log is empty I'm not sure where to check on nokia side.
>>
>> Has this been reported or are others seeing this?
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Re: N800 Leather Case

[hendrik]

I've heard that cases for the Nintendo DS work for the Nokia 800.

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Re: https client auth failing after firmware upgrade?

[Josh Smith]

That's too bad... That's the easy fix.  Does it work if you clear your
cache, reboot, and then go directly to the web site that wasn't
working?  Also - have you looked at the certificate manager in the
control panel for clues?

On 7/10/07, Mike Klein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  My date/time exactly matches my laptop (and both are correct). 7/10/07 and
> 1:30 pm...time of post.
>
>
>  mike
>
>
>  Josh Smith wrote:
>  This seems to be a chronic problem with Opera on the N800. One common
> fix is to make sure your date and time are set properly - including
> the date format.
>
> I am rather sure there is a bug report on this issue - I think I
> started it... It seems to have gotten worse though since the upgrade.
>
> On 7/10/07, Piotr Zagorowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>  I'm seeing probably the same issue. I'm having problem e.g. with
> https://www.t-mobile.co.uk
>
> first:
> "This site has sent an untrusted certificate
> * Certificate cannot identify the server"
>
> and then:
>
> "Unable to complete secure transaction
> https://www.t-mobile.co.uk/service/your-account/login/";
>
>
> Pit
>
> On 7/10/07, Mike Klein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>  I have a couple of clients certs imported signed by self-signed CA which
> is also imported as trusted root.
>
> My server shows client isn't returning a certificate. The imported certs
> are trusted for web, email and wlan.
>
> Since /var/log is empty I'm not sure where to check on nokia side.
>
> Has this been reported or are others seeing this?
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Re: Status of SyncEvolution and PIM applications

[Peter Bart]

On Sun, 2007-07-08 at 11:22 -0500, Ryan Pavlik wrote: 
> I recently documented the process of syncing GPE (a very well-rounded, 
> stable PIM suite) on the N800 with Evolution on the PC, step by step.  
> (I had searched around and found no such specific instructions 
> beforehand.)  It requires no compilation (in most cases), no use of 
> Scratchbox (in all cases), and can be done without using R&D mode, 
> AFAIK, so it is a good "end-user" solution.  The daily syncs are also 
> handled through a GUI!
> 
> The link to the instructions is: 
> http://cleardefinition.com/page/Sync_Evolution_and_GPE_on_N800/
> 
> There are a few minor issues with the setup, which I have documented on 
> that page and plan to report to the projects soon as soon as I can tell 
> which bugs go to which projects :D  You probably could try it out in 
> Scratchbox (using, for instance, the INdT Maemo VMWare Appliance for 
> ease of installation), but the risk to your device is very low.
> 
> Hope this helps!  If you find any parts of that tutorial that need 
> corrections, or if you notice additional issues with the system, please 
> let me know and file a bug with the upstream projects, if applicable.  
> Thanks!

Hi Ryan!
Thanks again for taking this on. This really helps me. On to the
peculiarities of my system, opensuse 10.2. Under the heading:

Set up passwordless logon to N800 SSH

3. Let's test to make sure this works. Run ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] - it
should log you on and give you a busybox prompt without asking for a
password. If this worked, you're golden, move on. If not, well, I'm not
sure what the deal is. Make sure /home/user/.ssh/ exists on the n800,
maybe.

I had to create the directory /home/user/.ssh and I think (yeah, I know)
the file /home/user/.ssh/id_dsa.pub with vi.

Under the heading:
Prerequisites For Sync Setup:

I'm getting the necessary files from the repository here
. 
This was linked from  which has links 
for several prebuilt distros as well as several other things. I'm currently 
gathering the correct files as you listed. I wanted to get completely through 
the process before I answered, but this might help someone in my situation.

Thanks Florian, Graham, Ryan, Nils, and all the other developers!

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Re: https client auth failing after firmware upgrade?

[Mike Klein]

My date/time exactly matches my laptop (and both are correct). 7/10/07
and 1:30 pm...time of post.


mike

Josh Smith wrote:
> This seems to be a chronic problem with Opera on the N800.  One common
> fix is to make sure your date and time are set properly - including
> the date format.
>
> I am rather sure there is a bug report on this issue - I think I
> started it...  It seems to have gotten worse though since the upgrade.
>
> On 7/10/07, Piotr Zagorowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   
>> I'm seeing probably the same issue. I'm having problem e.g. with
>> https://www.t-mobile.co.uk
>>
>> first:
>> "This site has sent an untrusted certificate
>> * Certificate cannot identify the server"
>>
>> and then:
>>
>> "Unable to complete secure transaction
>> https://www.t-mobile.co.uk/service/your-account/login/";
>>
>>
>> Pit
>>
>> On 7/10/07, Mike Klein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 
>>> I have a couple of clients certs imported signed by self-signed CA which
>>> is also imported as trusted root.
>>>
>>> My server shows client isn't returning a certificate. The imported certs
>>> are trusted for web, email and wlan.
>>>
>>> Since /var/log is empty I'm not sure where to check on nokia side.
>>>
>>> Has this been reported or are others seeing this?
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Re: Status of SyncEvolution and PIM applications

[Patrick Ohly]

On Mon, 2007-07-09 at 09:08 +0200, Lars Persson Fink wrote:
> 5. I have seen a post announcing SyncEvolution (I currently use this for
> syncing Evolution with ScheduleWorld) for N800. The status at the time
> of announcing was that it could synchronize addresses from the built-in
> address book. Is there anyone that has any experience with this
> solution.

The binary has been downloaded quite often without any complaints or bug
reports about contact syncing, but also very little other feedback. So
either a) people didn't get it to work and are afraid of asking for help
or b) it just works. Of course I prefer the second interpretation...

One user indeed said that contacts worked fine for him whereas he
couldn't get calendar syncs to work [1]. This is the known problem with
the EDS-DBus calendar backend. There are no news about that as far as I
know.

I am about to release 0.6 after testing on my Nokia 770 with the
original IT OS2006. My plan is to compile for the official OS so that it
runs on that and all more recent releases, but because recent OpenedHand
packages of "Dates" and "Contacts" are only available for Bora/OS2007 I
might reflash my Nokia 770 with the hacker edition and stop testing with
OS2006. Is this what all the power users have done already anyway or are
there users left who would prefer my testing on a genuine OS2006?

[1] 
http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1734977&group_id=146288&atid=764733

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Re: https client auth failing after firmware upgrade?

[Josh Smith]

This seems to be a chronic problem with Opera on the N800.  One common
fix is to make sure your date and time are set properly - including
the date format.

I am rather sure there is a bug report on this issue - I think I
started it...  It seems to have gotten worse though since the upgrade.

On 7/10/07, Piotr Zagorowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm seeing probably the same issue. I'm having problem e.g. with
> https://www.t-mobile.co.uk
>
> first:
> "This site has sent an untrusted certificate
> * Certificate cannot identify the server"
>
> and then:
>
> "Unable to complete secure transaction
> https://www.t-mobile.co.uk/service/your-account/login/";
>
>
> Pit
>
> On 7/10/07, Mike Klein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I have a couple of clients certs imported signed by self-signed CA which
> > is also imported as trusted root.
> >
> > My server shows client isn't returning a certificate. The imported certs
> > are trusted for web, email and wlan.
> >
> > Since /var/log is empty I'm not sure where to check on nokia side.
> >
> > Has this been reported or are others seeing this?
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Flaky connection after upgrade

[Duncan MacCallum]

HI,
Previous ver used to give rock solid wifi connection.
However after latest firmware upgrade now find connection speeds slow
and that behind a Belkin preN router connected to 20mb cable
connection.
Skype loads but unable to activate calls. Web browsing can at time be
painfully slow in fact at time notice little difference between wifi
and gprs connection
Connection to my wifi router shows at max but something not getting through...
Unfortunately very much an end user with no previous on linux so
floundering somewhat.
Good point is sometimes all is well, but not often enough.
Just wondering if other are having same problems afters recent upgrade.

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https client auth failing after firmware upgrade?

[Piotr Zagorowski]

I'm seeing probably the same issue. I'm having problem e.g. with
https://www.t-mobile.co.uk

first:
"This site has sent an untrusted certificate
* Certificate cannot identify the server"

and then:

"Unable to complete secure transaction
https://www.t-mobile.co.uk/service/your-account/login/";


Pit

On 7/10/07, Mike Klein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have a couple of clients certs imported signed by self-signed CA which
> is also imported as trusted root.
>
> My server shows client isn't returning a certificate. The imported certs
> are trusted for web, email and wlan.
>
> Since /var/log is empty I'm not sure where to check on nokia side.
>
> Has this been reported or are others seeing this?
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weird? problem with memory reporting after firmware upgrade

[Mike Klein]

After reflashing I install my usual 1st class apps: ror, metasploit,
geomapper?, solitaire, j2me, osgi, claws and a few network utils not
with firmware.

My memory usage was at 70% after loading all this stuff per control
panel. I recalled thinking this was good as I had put damn near
everything I wanted and still had breathing room.

I check this morning memory settings and I see I'm at 27% usage?!?

Something weird appears to be going on...also it would appear memory
stats/totals don't add up.

Anybody else seeing this or is my math bad (or I'm otherwuise consfused).

I did NOT restore backup after firmware upgrade and only use mmc1 for
backups and mmc2 for music/videos.


thanks in advance,

mike
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Re: N800 Leather Case

[Mike Klein]

Yeah...a week after I ordered mine I saw they removed a "button" and now
top flap is magnetic. However with this version I don't think you can
bend flap back and make it "stick" for use as stand...did they put
another magnet on back for this?

My "primary" carry for N800 and mini-bt keyboard (cc-sized...forget
manuf.) is an "under arm" holster with two pockets (one for n800 and
other for keyboard or my 8525/hermes).

Under arm holster is hot as it NEVER gets in the way...but is uber
geeky...but works. During 4th of july in hot sun...I didn't want holster
under "naked" armpit for obvious reasons. So I switched to unit in
AquaPac if I'm near the water or just have unit on neck strap. I feared
in 110 temps that unit in leather case might be a tad much.

I detest cases which snap to belt as often getting in and out of car or
chair the damn things pop off or get hit.


mike

Ryan Pavlik wrote:
> BoxWave has both a rubberized N800 skin and a leather case - both of
> which allow use with the case on.  I have the leather one and it is
> nice - even has a magnetically-closed flap to allow the stand to
> open/be used with the case on.
>
> Apparently the official Nokia case is due in 2-3 weeks.
>
> Ryan
>
> Mike Klein wrote:
>> I normally don't get into case/keybd discussions...however I did find a
>> fully in-case functional "case" (ahem) for N800.
>>
>> Nice black leather? with white stitching and all ports/buttons are
>> visible. Case flap can even be flipped around to make it stand on desk
>> without resorting to freeing stand on n800 itself.
>>
>> http://cgi.ebay.com/Leather-Case-for-Nokia-N800-Internet-Tablet-BK-Fully-Pr_W0QQitemZ150139265641QQihZ005QQcategoryZ75432QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
>>
>>
>> Just search on nokie leather and black on ebay and you'll find them.
>> Sellers are prompt and product is quality.
>>
>> I want cases to satisfy two requirements most of the time: ruggedizes
>> device AND allows in-case usage.
>>
>> For when I'm fishing/kayaking I have a nice AquaPac and I bought a
>> neoprene neck strap/lanyard system...can boogie while I'm paddling so
>> it's quite effective...now I just need a2dp.
>>
>>
>> mike
>>
>> Benjamí Villoslada wrote:
>>  
>>> Finally l've located one leather case that is fine for the N800: CP61
>>> for Nokia 9500.
>>>
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Re: N800 Leather Case

[Ryan Pavlik]

BoxWave has both a rubberized N800 skin and a leather case - both of 
which allow use with the case on.  I have the leather one and it is nice 
- even has a magnetically-closed flap to allow the stand to open/be used 
with the case on.

Apparently the official Nokia case is due in 2-3 weeks.

Ryan

Mike Klein wrote:
> I normally don't get into case/keybd discussions...however I did find a
> fully in-case functional "case" (ahem) for N800.
>
> Nice black leather? with white stitching and all ports/buttons are
> visible. Case flap can even be flipped around to make it stand on desk
> without resorting to freeing stand on n800 itself.
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/Leather-Case-for-Nokia-N800-Internet-Tablet-BK-Fully-Pr_W0QQitemZ150139265641QQihZ005QQcategoryZ75432QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
>
> Just search on nokie leather and black on ebay and you'll find them.
> Sellers are prompt and product is quality.
>
> I want cases to satisfy two requirements most of the time: ruggedizes
> device AND allows in-case usage.
>
> For when I'm fishing/kayaking I have a nice AquaPac and I bought a
> neoprene neck strap/lanyard system...can boogie while I'm paddling so
> it's quite effective...now I just need a2dp.
>
>
> mike
>
> Benjamí Villoslada wrote:
>   
>> Finally l've located one leather case that is fine for the N800: CP61
>> for Nokia 9500.
>>
>>   
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Re: Skype's sound volume too low

[Nedim Cholich]

I opened a ticket for this: https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1645
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Re: N800 Leather Case

[Mike Klein]

I normally don't get into case/keybd discussions...however I did find a
fully in-case functional "case" (ahem) for N800.

Nice black leather? with white stitching and all ports/buttons are
visible. Case flap can even be flipped around to make it stand on desk
without resorting to freeing stand on n800 itself.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Leather-Case-for-Nokia-N800-Internet-Tablet-BK-Fully-Pr_W0QQitemZ150139265641QQihZ005QQcategoryZ75432QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Just search on nokie leather and black on ebay and you'll find them.
Sellers are prompt and product is quality.

I want cases to satisfy two requirements most of the time: ruggedizes
device AND allows in-case usage.

For when I'm fishing/kayaking I have a nice AquaPac and I bought a
neoprene neck strap/lanyard system...can boogie while I'm paddling so
it's quite effective...now I just need a2dp.


mike

Benjamí Villoslada wrote:
> Finally l've located one leather case that is fine for the N800: CP61
> for Nokia 9500.
>
>   
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Re: N800 Leather Case

[Mike Klein]

I normally don't get into case/keybd discussions...however I did find a
fully in-case functional "case" (ahem) for N800.

Nice black leather? with white stitching and all ports/buttons are
visible. Case flap can even be flipped around to make it stand on desk
without resorting to freeing stand on n800 itself.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Leather-Case-for-Nokia-N800-Internet-Tablet-BK-Fully-Pr_W0QQitemZ150139265641QQihZ005QQcategoryZ75432QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Just search on nokie leather and black on ebay and you'll find them.
Sellers are prompt and product is quality.

I want cases to satisfy two requirements most of the time: ruggedizes
device AND allows in-case usage.

For when I'm fishing/kayaking I have a nice AquaPac and I bought a
neoprene neck strap/lanyard system...can boogie while I'm paddling so
it's quite effective...now I just need a2dp.


mike

Benjamí Villoslada wrote:
> Finally l've located one leather case that is fine for the N800: CP61
> for Nokia 9500.
>
>   
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Re: WTF!?! "Camera did not support taking movies"?

[Tim]

David, 

Message: 1
 Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 06:23:27 -0500
 From: David Hagood 
 Subject: WTF!?! "Camera did not support taking movies"?
 To: maemo-developers , maemo-users
 Message-ID: 
 Content-Type: text/plain
 I submitted the following bug:
 https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1638
 "The camera app in the latest software, while behaving MUCH BETTER
for taking
 still pictures, no longer seems to support recording movies. If this
feature is
 being deleted for some reason it would be nice if it were noted
somewhere, like
 in the camera help."
 I received the following reply:
 RESOLVED INVALID:
 Camera application did not support video before and does not support
it now.
 It's just for taking still pictures.
 What the FSCK? The camera application MOST CERTAINLY DID support
taking
 movies (albeit at a very low resolution) in the 2006 release.
Yeah, I brought this up a while back, but no one has responded to
ANY of these items. :( - Original Message -
 Subject: A whole bunch of issues (new firmware)...
 From:  Tim 
 To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" 
 Date: 07/08/2007 12:35 pm
Hi, 

I sent a couple of these already, but got no response. Now, I have a
new issue (which is at the bottom).  

- Original Message -
 Subject: Camera v2.9 loses video functionality?!
 Date: 07/06/2007 8:01 am 

Has anyone noticed that the latest version of the Nokia Camera app
doesn't have the video option anymore?  

- Original Message -
 Subject: Arg! My backup doesn't work!!!
 Date: 07/06/2007 8:05 pm
 Ok, so, I made my bsckup before flashing the new firmware... I
checked the
 backup directory on the MMC -- everything appeared ok (although, I
didn't
 look any "deeper"). Now, after upgrading, the Backup/Restore app
doesn't see
 the backup. So, I checked the contents of my backup.metadata file
and, guess
 what... It's completely blank (no XML data, nothing).
 Now, my question is... What can I do?  

NEW... 

The Application Manager crashed while trying to install Python 2.5.
Actually, it has crashed on a few different occasions since
upgrading, but not like this time. This time, my desktop graphics
didn't redraw properly and the touch screen didn't work. Upon
restart, the Nokia Logo/Status Bar did it's thing, but then froze
when the Status Bar got to the end of the load animation. The startup
sound played (which usually plays during the "hands" graphic, but
nothing actually happened onscreen -- it is still on the Nokia Logo.
The N800 still goes into power save mode if I leave it alone -- and
comes back on when I tap the screen -- but it's just frozen on the
Nokia Logo. 

I guess I'm going to need to reflash again. :( 

Has anyone else experience any of these (three) items? 

Thanks, 

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N800 Leather Case

[Benjamí Villoslada]

Finally l've located one leather case that is fine for the N800: CP61
for Nokia 9500.

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Re: recommended SD card for N800

[Andreas Poisel]

* Neil MacLeod <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [070709 16:10]:

> Personally I'd be a little cautious about using the new update with
> any expensive SD/SDHC cards until Nokia comment against bug #1204[1]
> or in the mailing list with further details explaining why the update
> is killing cards and what can be done about it (and how to revive
> "dead" cards).

I didn't experience filesystem or hardware related issues with my
SD-cards (opposed to MMC-cards, where the filesystem gets corrupted
frequently on N770 and N800, any firmware version) using
RX-34_2007SE_4.2007.26-8_PR_MR0.

My problem is the metalayer-crawler eating up the CPU resources (as
discussed here: https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=978).

The metalayer-crawler process is running with a niceness of 19 and I
applied a custom path.  This is the command line (as listed by htop):

/usr/bin/metalayer-crawler -F -c 
/home/user/MyDocs/.video,/home/user/MyDocs/.sounds,/home/user/MyDocs/.images

Nevertheless metalayer-crawler seems to block the touch-screen almost
completely for about 10 minutes after system startup.

The filesystem on my card is OK, neither the high niceness nor the
custom path applied to metalayer-crawler affects the touch-screen issue
in a positive way.

The only fix which works for me is to switch off metalayer-crawler
completely (I don't care about the mediaplayer).

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SDHC card for n800

[Anders Karlsson]

I saw a question about working SDHC cards on the list, and thought that 
i should share my experince so far. I just got two TwinMOS 8GB SDHC 
cards (Art no: FSD8GBU-CLASS2) and now have them in my n800, I have 
copied all data from my old 2GB cards and so far they seem to work just 
fine.
Nokia-N800-26:~# df -h
FilesystemSize  Used Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/mtdblock42.0M  2.0M 0 100% /mnt/initfs
none512.0k 84.0k428.0k  16% /mnt/initfs/tmp
/dev/mtdblock4  251.5M126.3M125.2M  50% /
none512.0k 84.0k428.0k  16% /tmp
none  1.0M 60.0k964.0k   6% /dev
/dev/mmcblk1p17.5G  1.7G  5.8G  22% /media/mmc1
/dev/mmcblk0p17.5G  1.6G  5.9G  21% /media/mmc2


/Anders



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Re: Skype's sound volume too low

[MoRpHeUz]

I have this problem only with the speakers...


BR,

On 7/10/07, Piotr Zagorowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I can confirm. I thought this is something wrong with my headphones,
> but this is the case both with built-in speakers and headphones I use.
>
> Pit
>
> On 7/10/07, Nedim Cholich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I turned up both system and Skype's volume but I still can barely hear the
> > person on the other side. Sound from other apps comes out just fine. I've
> > looked through Skype's settings but there is nothing related.
> >
> > Is anyone else experiencing this?
> >
> > Thanks.
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Re: Skype's sound volume too low

[Piotr Zagorowski]

I can confirm. I thought this is something wrong with my headphones,
but this is the case both with built-in speakers and headphones I use.

Pit

On 7/10/07, Nedim Cholich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I turned up both system and Skype's volume but I still can barely hear the
> person on the other side. Sound from other apps comes out just fine. I've
> looked through Skype's settings but there is nothing related.
>
> Is anyone else experiencing this?
>
> Thanks.
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Re: OpenSSH on OS 2006 repository problem?

[Piotr Zagorowski]

If you have ssh server and xterm installed, you can:
- run xterm
- ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
- cp  /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.oryg
- add all repositories you want or copy from internet ready file
- or if you have already "extended" version: cp
/etc/apt/sources.list."extended" /etc/apt/sources.list
- apt-get update
Usually if something is wrong with repositories sites/files/keys  it
shows some error and it helps with further investigation.


Pit

On 7/10/07, Kevin T. Neely <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 08:23:31 -0400
> Theodore Tso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > I figured this out by eliminating all non-essential categories until
> > the package information was getting properly updated, and then I was
> > able to figure out that the problem was the extra, non-existent
> > component.  Once I eliminated that, I was able to install skype,
> > openssh, etc.
>
> I have run into this problem before and have found it is best to just
> periodically purge all but the most "official-looking" repositories I
> have in the Application Manager.  This is annoying, as then I have to
> go back and find and re-enter the repositories that I need.
>
> Mayber there is some logging somewhere that tells you exactly what is
> failing.  I haven't found it yet.
>
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Skype's sound volume too low

[Nedim Cholich]

I turned up both system and Skype's volume but I still can barely hear the
person on the other side. Sound from other apps comes out just fine. I've
looked through Skype's settings but there is nothing related.

Is anyone else experiencing this?

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Re: OpenSSH on OS 2006 repository problem?

[Kevin T. Neely]

On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 08:23:31 -0400
Theodore Tso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I figured this out by eliminating all non-essential categories until
> the package information was getting properly updated, and then I was
> able to figure out that the problem was the extra, non-existent
> component.  Once I eliminated that, I was able to install skype,
> openssh, etc. 

I have run into this problem before and have found it is best to just
periodically purge all but the most "official-looking" repositories I
have in the Application Manager.  This is annoying, as then I have to
go back and find and re-enter the repositories that I need.

Mayber there is some logging somewhere that tells you exactly what is
failing.  I haven't found it yet.

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Re: Claws-Mail offline usage

[Kevin T. Neely]

(CC:ing the maemo-users list the solution below)

Thank you Colin, this pretty much points me to all the confifguration
settings I could not find.  Synchronization seems to work just right,
and I am sure I'll be able to create a local store for the outbound
messages.  

One thing I will have to figure out is turning off the Claws-mail
alerts, since even in offline/disconnected mode, it seems to want to
connect to the IMAP server about every couple minutes or so, which is
annoying.

Thank you for the great response!
Kevin

On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 09:31:28 +0200
Colin Leroy  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I've read your mail at
> http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/maemo/users/24666
> 
> > I have played arouind with Claws for a little while, but now i am
> > looking to make it my primary offline mail reader for my Nokia 770.
> > I have it setup to use my IMAP server and everything works well
> > there. However, when I go to synchronise the folders, the option is
> > grayed out, and I cannot find a place to enable it in the options.
> 
> "Synchronise for offline use" is a per-folder option; you can enable
> it for every folder you want readable offline, in folders Properties
> (use tap-n-hold to get the folders contextual menu). 
> 
> > Is there a way to get this working in Claws for Maemo?
> > 
> > Also, in composing this message and clicking the send later button,
> > claws tells me it cannot queue the message. 
> 
> You mean always, or only when you're disconnected? If always, it means
> that Claws didn't find a Queue folder in your IMAP account, and you
> can solve that by specifying it in account preferences, Advanced
> section.
> 
> If only when disconnected, it's because the IMAP queue folder is
> unreachable; you can ask Claws to queue your mails on a local mailbox:
> 1) add a local mailbox (from File menu, Add Mailbox, MH)
> 2) specify this new mailbox's Queue folder in your account
> preferences, Advanced section.
> 
> HTH!
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Re: OpenSSH on OS 2006 repository problem?

[Theodore Tso]

On Mon, Jul 09, 2007 at 12:10:33PM -0400, dasDasein wrote:
> When I click the installer for OpenSSH from Maemo download site, it fails to
> add repository and install.  I manually entered the repository, and try to
> install openssh-installer I get ... "Unable to download. Package not found."

I ran into one problem because I had the following in my application
catalog

Catalog name:   Maemo
Web address:http://repository.maemo.org
Distribution:   bora
Components: free non-free extras
  ^^

The problem was that extras is a non-existent component in
repository.maemo.org.  Previous versions of the firmware would just
ignore the non-existent component.

The latest version seems to abort the "apt-get update" process and
leave you with the old package information --- for all catalogs, not
just the one with the bogus extra component.

I figured this out by eliminating all non-essential categories until
the package information was getting properly updated, and then I was
able to figure out that the problem was the extra, non-existent
component.  Once I eliminated that, I was able to install skype,
openssh, etc. 

Don't know if this is the problem you ran into, but maybe it will help
some others

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WTF!?! "Camera did not support taking movies"?

[David Hagood]

I submitted the following bug:

https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1638

"The camera app in the latest software, while behaving MUCH BETTER for taking
still pictures, no longer seems to support recording movies. If this feature is
being deleted for some reason it would be nice if it were noted somewhere, like
in the camera help."

I received the following reply:

RESOLVED INVALID:
Camera application did not support video before and does not support it now.
It's just for taking still pictures.

What the FSCK? The camera application MOST CERTAINLY DID support taking
movies (albeit at a very low resolution) in the 2006 release.

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