Re: starting up - ruggedizing
> I've been using a Nintendo DS Lite case. (got it on sale too!) has > lots of extra "pockets". > I looked at that & psp cases, amongst other options. The notebook deal from Target was the best fit I ran into with about a half inch of excess in width or length. Plus it doesn't look like a game case that some bozo might want to steal. However the notebook dealy not big enough for a charger or usb cable. I just swap out the card for transfers and plug it into the car charger away from the house while in the case, if the charge runs down -- which is rare. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: ATARASHI - n800 optimized ezine is out!
On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 23:06:51 +0100 "Carlos Pinto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Folks, > as January will be very busy for me, i thought to publish the first > issue of my "new-media lifestyle" ezine in 800x480 format not just > next month, but now. > > This is what you get: 66 pages presenting some new gadgest, new > software, new wallpapers, new websites that fit on your n770, n800 > and n810. > > You can read the ezine online or download it as ZIP file and then open > it through your browser. > The link is http://www.cyberholic.de/atarashi I gather there's now a zipper for 2008 OS? I don't recall one a couple weeks ago. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: ATARASHI - n800 optimized ezine is out!
Carlos Pinto wrote: > To answer a few questions, that already have been posted to me: > Q: Can i view it with my 770? > A: I have been informed today that it needs the Flash 9.x Plugin. So you just jump on the Nokia-train of not supporting any hardware that isn't manufactured any more? (even if it isn't really a hardware-issue, but only a software-issue...) -> That's really pitty! Makes me not want to read your e-zine at all! Thanks for spoiling any interest in advance & kind regards, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
ATARASHI - n800 optimized ezine is out!
Hi Folks, as January will be very busy for me, i thought to publish the first issue of my "new-media lifestyle" ezine in 800x480 format not just next month, but now. This is what you get: 66 pages presenting some new gadgest, new software, new wallpapers, new websites that fit on your n770, n800 and n810. You can read the ezine online or download it as ZIP file and then open it through your browser. The link is http://www.cyberholic.de/atarashi To answer a few questions, that already have been posted to me: Q: Why is it in Flash and not as PDF? A: Because it has the so called Page-Flip effect and in future issues will have Video and mp3 implemented. Q: Can i view it with my 770? A: I have been informed today that it needs the Flash 9.x Plugin. If you have any further questions, do not hesitate to ask me. Hope you like it and thanks for your time, Carlos ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: starting up - ruggedizing
On Wednesday 19 December 2007 09:13:43 am Fred Chittenden wrote: > On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 08:55:00 -0500 > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I've just ordered my first N800, and it should arrive in a few > > days. I've read this list enough to know that it will do the > > things I want it to do (and more) once I write a few minor > > applications for it... Is it possible to ruggedize the N800? > > I've already destroyed several Nokia cell phones and a Palm pilot > > by letting them drop out of my pocket onto the floor when I bend > > over. (My Palm is still limping along with gratuitous blobs of > > orange pixels and uneven backlighting after several falls. Kudos > > to the manufacturer!) > > My ruggedizing solution finding a smallish zippered $6 day planner > like deal at Target by Franklin-Coveys #365. Fits in a large > pocket. Finds a easy home in my brief case/day pack. > > * It holds the n800 real snuggly, with cushioning in every > dimension, comes with a small pen, a pad of paper which I divided > in half to make a little more room, and a few slots for > business/credit cards and some $. > > * It cushions drops quite well. > * Google up some screen protectors. The case protects the screen > well if you put the screen on the paper pad side of the case, but > you'll want to protect the screen from stylus scratches. > * You can open the zipper on one end to charge the device in the > case. * The case is snug enough of a fit to not > allow the n800 to slip out an unzipped end. > * There's just enough spare room for the ear piece. > * For quick access, when you put the n800 in the case, lock the > touch screen and keys. Unlocking is much quicker than booting up > and saves battery time over just leaving it on. > > Any who, that's worked for me. I'm sure there's other solutions to > ruggedizing use. I've been using a Nintendo DS Lite case. (got it on sale too!) has lots of extra "pockets". Also I noted the first line... "I just ordered my FIRST n800. Sounds like someone has plans ;) James ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: starting up - ruggedizing
On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 08:55:00 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I've just ordered my first N800, and it should arrive in a few days. > I've read this list enough to know that it will do the things I want > it to do (and more) once I write a few minor applications for it... > Is it possible to ruggedize the N800? I've already destroyed several > Nokia cell phones and a Palm pilot by letting them drop out of > my pocket onto the floor when I bend over. (My Palm is still limping > along with gratuitous blobs of orange pixels and uneven backlighting > after several falls. Kudos to the manufacturer!) My ruggedizing solution finding a smallish zippered $6 day planner like deal at Target by Franklin-Coveys #365. Fits in a large pocket. Finds a easy home in my brief case/day pack. * It holds the n800 real snuggly, with cushioning in every dimension, comes with a small pen, a pad of paper which I divided in half to make a little more room, and a few slots for business/credit cards and some $. * It cushions drops quite well. * Google up some screen protectors. The case protects the screen well if you put the screen on the paper pad side of the case, but you'll want to protect the screen from stylus scratches. * You can open the zipper on one end to charge the device in the case. * The case is snug enough of a fit to not allow the n800 to slip out an unzipped end. * There's just enough spare room for the ear piece. * For quick access, when you put the n800 in the case, lock the touch screen and keys. Unlocking is much quicker than booting up and saves battery time over just leaving it on. Any who, that's worked for me. I'm sure there's other solutions to ruggedizing use. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: starting up.
Welcome to the club :) On 12/19/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I've just ordered my first N800, and it should arrive in a few days. > I've read this list enough to know that it will do the things I want it > to do (and more) once I write a few minor applications for it. I've > been programming since the 60's, am a long-time Unix and emacs user, and > am currently using Debian on several machines. (I've started writing > the crucial minor applications on a Debian system). > > My questions are: > > Where do I go to get started as an end-user of the N800? - User manual for N800 - http://www.internettablettalk.com/ - http://maemo.org/news/planet-maemo/ Where do I go to get started as a programmer on the N800? What's the > recommended UI library? http://maemo.org/development/documentation/ Software repositories for the N800 seem to be scattered among many > sites. Where should I look? Is there an index somewhere? http://www.gronmayer.com/it/ Is it possible to brick the N800 by flashing with a bad kernel? Or > does the N800 have a nonreflashable flasher? The flasher does some basic validation. But it's better to use only official images from Nokia or Maemo. Is it possible to ruggedize the N800? I've already destroyed several > Nokia cell phones and a Palm pilot by letting them drop out of > my pocket onto the floor when I bend over. (My Palm is still limping > along with gratuitous blobs of orange pixels and uneven backlighting > after several falls. Kudos to the manufacturer!) You can buy some case for your N800 - http://stepanoff.org/wordpress/archives/tag/case It'll save it. -- hendrik > > > ___ > maemo-users mailing list > maemo-users@maemo.org > https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users > -- Cheers, Michael ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: starting up.
On Dec 19, 2007 8:55 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've just ordered my first N800, and it should arrive in a few days. > I've read this list enough to know that it will do the things I want it > to do (and more) once I write a few minor applications for it. I've > been programming since the 60's, am a long-time Unix and emacs user, and > am currently using Debian on several machines. (I've started writing > the crucial minor applications on a Debian system). > > My questions are: > > Where do I go to get started as an end-user of the N800? http://www.internettablettalk.com is the definitive resource for general information and questions. > > Where do I go to get started as a programmer on the N800? What's the > recommended UI library? http://maemo.org and there's really only one standard UI library, which is a modified form of GTK called "Hildon" > Software repositories for the N800 seem to be scattered among many > sites. Where should I look? Is there an index somewhere? http://www.gronmayer.com/it/index.php?lang=en&system=maemo4 > Is it possible to brick the N800 by flashing with a bad kernel? Or > does the N800 have a nonreflashable flasher? No, you can't brick it (AFAIK) with a bad kernel; I've gotten it to a state where the kernel wouldn't boot it but then the "flasher" utility you use to install updates or rescue yourself can always restore a broken kernel, using the one included in a standard OS image published on maemo.org > Is it possible to ruggedize the N800? I've already destroyed several > Nokia cell phones and a Palm pilot by letting them drop out of > my pocket onto the floor when I bend over. (My Palm is still limping > along with gratuitous blobs of orange pixels and uneven backlighting > after several falls. Kudos to the manufacturer!) Do not wait, go and buy one of the silicone "skins" sold for it. They make it very slightly larger and the leg to prop it up will not come out when it's on but it will make it virtually impossible to slide out of your pocket. I got mine off of eBay for around $3.00 plus $4.00 for shipping. Here's an example (I believe this is similar or identical to what I bought): http://cgi.ebay.com/Nokia-800-N800-Silicone-Silicon-Skin-Case-Tube-Black_W0QQitemZ320192302320QQihZ011QQcategoryZ20367QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItem?_trksid=p1638.m118 Have fun, and make sure you install OpenSSH server first thing to make installation of packages and generally mucking around a lot easier! Larry ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
starting up.
I've just ordered my first N800, and it should arrive in a few days. I've read this list enough to know that it will do the things I want it to do (and more) once I write a few minor applications for it. I've been programming since the 60's, am a long-time Unix and emacs user, and am currently using Debian on several machines. (I've started writing the crucial minor applications on a Debian system). My questions are: Where do I go to get started as an end-user of the N800? Where do I go to get started as a programmer on the N800? What's the recommended UI library? Software repositories for the N800 seem to be scattered among many sites. Where should I look? Is there an index somewhere? Is it possible to brick the N800 by flashing with a bad kernel? Or does the N800 have a nonreflashable flasher? Is it possible to ruggedize the N800? I've already destroyed several Nokia cell phones and a Palm pilot by letting them drop out of my pocket onto the floor when I bend over. (My Palm is still limping along with gratuitous blobs of orange pixels and uneven backlighting after several falls. Kudos to the manufacturer!) -- hendrik ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Disappearing Widgets.
Hi, ext James Sparenberg wrote: > On Tuesday 18 December 2007 01:10:02 am you wrote: >> ext James Sparenberg wrote: >>> On Monday 17 December 2007 07:02:57 am you wrote: ext James Sparenberg wrote: >First, Yes I understand 2008 is a beta. So please don't > anyone get defensive. But I think I have a case somehow of > application vs 2008 and I'm trying to track it down. Can't file > a bug until I can say "do this and that happens" or at least > say what is happening. > > I'm about to do a 3rd re-install this weekend. Each one is > promted by the same thing. After a restart (last on promted by > a need to change battery for a charged one while out) I loose > all visible widgets. No buttons (I've the text) no progress or > scroll bars, nothing. Now the functionality is still there. > If I guess the location of a scroll button it will scroll, > Buttons though only defined by the text that was on them still > push. >> Did you see this issue right after boot, or only after using >> the device for a while? > > Usually withing about 10 or 12 hours of use (yes I use it heavily > probably 6-8 hours a day.) > I seem to recall someone having this kind of event in the > past and a cure existing. Though for the life of me I can't > remember what it was. > > Any suggestions would be appreciated as this is #3 event in 3 > days. Though the "remember what was installed" feature of 2008 > is working well. I've never heard of this issue, so I assume it's 3rd party SW issue. What you have installed? Any 3rd party themes for example? >> Hm. I just remembered that I saw an effect like this in some devel >> version of ITOS2006 on N770. The reason was that some process had >> used all the file descriptors and therefore Gtk apps couldn't get >> shared memory segments with the X server and sapwood server >> couldn't load new theme images. >> >> However, Chinook has a large enough amount of file descriptors that >> you can have all the pre-installed apps in use and one that has >> leaked as many file descriptors as a single process can (thousand) >> and the device still works. So, this might not be the cause. But >> to make sure, please mail what this gives: >> cat /proc/sys/fs/file-nr > > Yes! I knew I'd seen something about this ... Thanks! OK I'll try > doing some of the things I was doing (once the load on the > repositories clears up.) I'll actually try and force it since I'm > going to update to the newer version anyway. One of the things > that I didn't mention that does come to mind now is that in each case > I did have some kind of desktop application lockup and had to do a > shutdown using the long power button method. > > >>> Not yet. Havent found any for 2008. Though I am begining to >>> suspect either Xournal or OMWeather. (or both.) >> OMWeather was earlier leaking very badly (and because it's a >> Desktop plugin and Desktop is OOM-protected, the applet could force >> device to get very slow and eventually to reboot). >> >> Please attach /proc/meminfo file contents from the situation when >> this happens. > > Eero I will and can. Like I said I've narrowed it down to 2 apps > giving me problems in running right, OMWeather and Xournal. > > Additionally is there any way to reset file descriptors in GTK? Inside the process causing this issue, from the code? Just close the files (if the code still retains their FD or FILE pointer). If you just want to get more file descriptors to the system, either kill the offending process or echo a larger number to /proc/sys/fs/file-max. (it can be increased at runtime) To get the already running processes to re-load the (graphics) files they couldn't get earlier, you might need to restart them. > If I > could I could then run tests over and over quickly without reflash > and narrow down the problem. - Eero ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
