A Race between the IPhone and the Nokia IT WE
All, fyi. Yesterday I found this news clip from Cnet concerning the Sprint XOHM Wimax launch and it features cameos of the N810 including an showdown between it and the Iphone (download speeds over XOHM on the one hand and ATT HSDPA on the other). Bad news for team XOHM/Nokia: Team ATT/Iphone one (granted it was a sample of 1). Nonetheless it is nice to see the N810 ITWE in a live network. http://news.cnet.com/1606-2-50004011.html Early in the video the commentator picks up a ITWE with a wire attached. Hey,,,what's that I thought we were doing wireless here? Hopefully that was a power cord and not an antenna cord. However that suggests that battery drain might be an issue here. We shall see. -- Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks, LLC * * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: A Race between the IPhone and the Nokia IT WE
On Saturday 11 October 2008 12:43:06 John Holmblad wrote: All, fyi. Yesterday I found this news clip from Cnet concerning the Sprint XOHM Wimax launch and it features cameos of the N810 including an showdown between it and the Iphone (download speeds over XOHM on the one hand and ATT HSDPA on the other). Bad news for team XOHM/Nokia: Team ATT/Iphone one (granted it was a sample of 1). Nonetheless it is nice to see the N810 ITWE in a live network. could be a network issue, lost packages or something like that. that the loading bar is jumping back and forth like its doing usually indicates that the browser have yet to get a proper handshake with the server. and even then, something like a flash ad or similar on that cnet page would send the browser into a near standstil if one is unlucky. and the cnet page is probably loaded with javascript as well, adding more to the workload. basically, even if the connection speed is fast, the device may be overloaded with rendering. webkit is known for being a fast page render, and the gecko engine isnt, even less so on the browser as it was frozen right before some optimization work. http://news.cnet.com/1606-2-50004011.html Early in the video the commentator picks up a ITWE with a wire attached. Hey,,,what's that I thought we were doing wireless here? Hopefully that was a power cord and not an antenna cord. However that suggests that battery drain might be an issue here. We shall see. thats the correct location for the power cord iirc. and would make sense for them to run the demo devices from a socket to avoid power issues in the middle of a demo. the video playing seemed jumpy tho... ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: A Race between the IPhone and the Nokia IT WE
I'm not impressed. That's like having a motorcycle race a scooter -- the motorcycle is on I-5 from Seattle to Portland (Sprint or ATT) and the scooter's on I-5 from Los Angeles to San Francisco (ATT or Sprint) and both are trying to get to Salt Lake City first (Akamai's data centers that are caching CNET's content). Show me some latency figures and network topology maps between the mobile devices and their end points then I might be just a tiny bit less annoyed. Otherwise, they might as well record a two legged dog chasing a mule hauled apple cart and pronounce, the apple hauler is faster than the kibble incinerator... I'm not sure if it's the network or the device. -Gary ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: A Race between the IPhone and the Nokia IT WE
Think it's more a matter of totally different device categories and markets. iPhone is a focused on a broad consumer market and the NIT is not. On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 7:30 PM, Gary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not impressed. That's like having a motorcycle race a scooter -- the motorcycle is on I-5 from Seattle to Portland (Sprint or ATT) and the scooter's on I-5 from Los Angeles to San Francisco (ATT or Sprint) and both are trying to get to Salt Lake City first (Akamai's data centers that are caching CNET's content). Show me some latency figures and network topology maps between the mobile devices and their end points then I might be just a tiny bit less annoyed. Otherwise, they might as well record a two legged dog chasing a mule hauled apple cart and pronounce, the apple hauler is faster than the kibble incinerator... I'm not sure if it's the network or the device. -Gary ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- Jonathan Greene +1.914.750.8740 AIM / iChat - atmasphere gtalk / jabber - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype / Gizmo - JonathanGreene blogs - http://www.atmasphere.net/wp / http://www.maemoapps.com ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: A Race between the IPhone and the Nokia IT WE
Jonathan Greene wrote: Think it's more a matter of totally different device categories and markets. iPhone is a focused on a broad consumer market and the NIT is not. To me, that sounds like you're saying the dog is a shelty and poodle mix while the mule is the offspring of an Abyssinian donkey bred with an Appaloosa horse. The CNET technical journalist never drew any distinction between the devices. She and her editor assumed that the only interest consumers would have in either device/network is how fast they can stream skateboarding dog videos from YouTube from the back of Governor Palin's mini-van. But that's just the unfiltered mood I'm in today; not cached at the edge of the network. -Gary ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
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I also think if there was flash on the cnet page the iphone would just skip it thus making the test easier for the iphone. I amazes me that a supposed educated tech review firm would miss this point entirely. I think they are just lame or they are slanted toward getting that next apple invite. Either way long live the NIT tim On Saturday 11 October 2008 04:30:18 pm Gary wrote: I'm not impressed. That's like having a motorcycle race a scooter -- the motorcycle is on I-5 from Seattle to Portland (Sprint or ATT) and the scooter's on I-5 from Los Angeles to San Francisco (ATT or Sprint) and both are trying to get to Salt Lake City first (Akamai's data centers that are caching CNET's content). Show me some latency figures and network topology maps between the mobile devices and their end points then I might be just a tiny bit less annoyed. Otherwise, they might as well record a two legged dog chasing a mule hauled apple cart and pronounce, the apple hauler is faster than the kibble incinerator... I'm not sure if it's the network or the device. -Gary ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: A Race between the IPhone and the Nokia IT WE
On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 11:10 PM, Tim Ashman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I also think if there was flash on the cnet page the iphone would just skip it thus making the test easier for the iphone. I amazes me that a supposed educated tech review firm would miss this point entirely. I think they are just lame or they are slanted toward getting that next apple invite. Either way long live the NIT tim Apple always preteds Linux doesn't exist... so it's kinda natural that fans of the JesusPhone and the Church of Cupertino itself would like to enlighten the masses about the superiority of their proprietary OS and solutions compared to that other OS that doesn't exist. FC ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users