A Race between the IPhone and the Nokia IT WE

2008-10-11 Thread John Holmblad
All,

fyi.  Yesterday I found this news clip from Cnet concerning the Sprint 
XOHM Wimax launch and it features cameos of the N810 including an  
showdown between it and the Iphone (download speeds over XOHM on the one 
hand and ATT HSDPA on the other). Bad news for team XOHM/Nokia: Team 
ATT/Iphone one (granted it was a sample of 1). Nonetheless it is nice to 
see the N810 ITWE in a live network.


http://news.cnet.com/1606-2-50004011.html


Early in the video the commentator picks up a ITWE with a wire attached. 
Hey,,,what's that I thought we were doing wireless here? Hopefully 
that was a power cord and not an antenna cord. However that suggests 
that battery drain might be an issue here. We shall see.

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Re: A Race between the IPhone and the Nokia IT WE

2008-10-11 Thread kenneth marken
On Saturday 11 October 2008 12:43:06 John Holmblad wrote:
 All,

 fyi.  Yesterday I found this news clip from Cnet concerning the Sprint
 XOHM Wimax launch and it features cameos of the N810 including an
 showdown between it and the Iphone (download speeds over XOHM on the one
 hand and ATT HSDPA on the other). Bad news for team XOHM/Nokia: Team
 ATT/Iphone one (granted it was a sample of 1). Nonetheless it is nice to
 see the N810 ITWE in a live network.


could be a network issue, lost packages or something like that. that the 
loading bar is jumping back and forth like its doing usually indicates that 
the browser have yet to get a proper handshake with the server.

and even then, something like a flash ad or similar on that cnet page would 
send the browser into a near standstil if one is unlucky. and the cnet page 
is probably loaded with javascript as well, adding more to the workload.

basically, even if the connection speed is fast, the device may be overloaded 
with rendering. webkit is known for being a fast page render, and the gecko 
engine isnt, even less so on the browser as it was frozen right before some 
optimization work.


 http://news.cnet.com/1606-2-50004011.html


 Early in the video the commentator picks up a ITWE with a wire attached.
 Hey,,,what's that I thought we were doing wireless here? Hopefully
 that was a power cord and not an antenna cord. However that suggests
 that battery drain might be an issue here. We shall see.

thats the correct location for the power cord iirc. and would make sense for 
them to run the demo devices from a socket to avoid power issues in the 
middle of a demo. the video playing seemed jumpy tho...
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Re: A Race between the IPhone and the Nokia IT WE

2008-10-11 Thread Gary
I'm not impressed. That's like having a motorcycle race a scooter -- the
motorcycle is on I-5 from Seattle to Portland (Sprint or ATT) and the
scooter's on I-5 from Los Angeles to San Francisco (ATT or Sprint) and both
are trying to get to Salt Lake City first (Akamai's data centers that are
caching CNET's content). Show me some latency figures and network topology
maps between the mobile devices and their end points then I might be just a
tiny bit less annoyed. Otherwise, they might as well record a two legged dog
chasing a mule hauled apple cart and pronounce, the apple hauler is faster
than the kibble incinerator... I'm not sure if it's the network or the
device.

-Gary
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Re: A Race between the IPhone and the Nokia IT WE

2008-10-11 Thread Jonathan Greene
Think it's more a matter of totally different device categories and
markets.  iPhone is a focused on a broad consumer market and the NIT
is not.

On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 7:30 PM, Gary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm not impressed. That's like having a motorcycle race a scooter -- the
 motorcycle is on I-5 from Seattle to Portland (Sprint or ATT) and the
 scooter's on I-5 from Los Angeles to San Francisco (ATT or Sprint) and both
 are trying to get to Salt Lake City first (Akamai's data centers that are
 caching CNET's content). Show me some latency figures and network topology
 maps between the mobile devices and their end points then I might be just a
 tiny bit less annoyed. Otherwise, they might as well record a two legged dog
 chasing a mule hauled apple cart and pronounce, the apple hauler is faster
 than the kibble incinerator... I'm not sure if it's the network or the
 device.

 -Gary

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Re: A Race between the IPhone and the Nokia IT WE

2008-10-11 Thread Gary
Jonathan Greene wrote:

 Think it's more a matter of totally different device categories and
 markets.  iPhone is a focused on a broad consumer market and the NIT
 is not.


To me, that sounds like you're saying the dog is a shelty and poodle mix
while the mule is the offspring of an Abyssinian donkey bred with an
Appaloosa horse. The CNET technical journalist never drew any distinction
between the devices. She and her editor assumed that the only interest
consumers would have in either device/network is how fast they can stream
skateboarding dog videos from YouTube from the back of Governor Palin's
mini-van. But that's just the unfiltered mood I'm in today; not cached at
the edge of the network.

-Gary
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Re: A Race between the IPhone and the Nokia IT WE

2008-10-11 Thread Tim Ashman
I also think if there was flash on the cnet page the iphone would just skip it 
thus making the test easier for the iphone.  I amazes me that a supposed 
educated tech review firm would miss this point entirely.  I think they are 
just lame or they are slanted toward getting that next apple invite.  Either 
way long live the NIT

tim

On Saturday 11 October 2008 04:30:18 pm Gary wrote:
 I'm not impressed. That's like having a motorcycle race a scooter -- the
 motorcycle is on I-5 from Seattle to Portland (Sprint or ATT) and the
 scooter's on I-5 from Los Angeles to San Francisco (ATT or Sprint) and
 both are trying to get to Salt Lake City first (Akamai's data centers that
 are caching CNET's content). Show me some latency figures and network
 topology maps between the mobile devices and their end points then I might
 be just a tiny bit less annoyed. Otherwise, they might as well record a two
 legged dog chasing a mule hauled apple cart and pronounce, the apple
 hauler is faster than the kibble incinerator... I'm not sure if it's the
 network or the device.

 -Gary



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Re: A Race between the IPhone and the Nokia IT WE

2008-10-11 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 11:10 PM, Tim Ashman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I also think if there was flash on the cnet page the iphone would just skip it
 thus making the test easier for the iphone.  I amazes me that a supposed
 educated tech review firm would miss this point entirely.  I think they are
 just lame or they are slanted toward getting that next apple invite.  Either
 way long live the NIT

 tim

Apple always preteds Linux doesn't exist... so it's kinda natural that
fans of the JesusPhone and the Church of Cupertino itself would like
to enlighten the masses about the superiority of their proprietary OS
and solutions compared to that other OS that doesn't exist.

FC
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