Music Player Exasperation

2008-11-30 Thread Hal Vaughan
I'm frustrated with the music players available for my N800 and home I'm 
just not getting something basic.  First, before I go into feature 
issues, I'm using FLAC files.  I've ripped my entire CD collection to 
flac on my LAN so I keep it lossless and want to copy those files to an 
SD card so I can play them on my N800.  I do have a number of old time 
radio shows in MP3, but those aren't an issue.

I've tried KMPlayer, but it won't let me edit playlists like it claims 
to.   I'm using MediaBoxMediaCenter for now.  I've tried UKMP and it 
doesn't do flac as is the problem with several others.

I don't want much, but I'd like to be able to copy my flac files, which 
I know have all the tags in them, to the SD card, then play that album 
on a music player with the tracks in order.  I can't remember the track 
order on my own and don't want to have to go through, each time I copy 
an album, and sort the tracks.  I just want to be able to load a media 
player, say, This is the directory, be a nice program and add all the 
tracks, then have it play the album tracks in order.  (It's a major 
pain to have to add each track of a symphony or all of Wish You Were 
Here, for examples, to a playlist EVERY TIME I start MBMC and in some 
cases I can't remember track order until I listen to it.)

Is there a music player for the N800 that plays flac and is aware of 
track sequence for an album so if I have an album on the SD card, it's 
easy to get them to play back in order?

I'm rather surprised I haven't seen that on the players I've looked at.

Thanks!


Hal
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Unzip utility for endusers

2008-11-30 Thread Lake Stevens Dental
OK, perhaps I've missed it -- perhaps it's ready to bite my nose off 
while poking around Maemo.  As a enduser, I can't find an unzip program 
that works with a single click to unzip downloaded files. Is there one?  
Or am I missing something when it comes to using it?

 Yes, there's unzip utility I downloaded from Maemo that apparently 
works at the command line mode -- it's got 5 stars (from some self 
appointed linux command line geek reviewers).  However, for most end 
users stepping back into command line world is like purposely stepping 
in dog poo then walking over your living room carpet. 

  I figured unzip would work with the native FileManager so that when I 
clicked on a zip file, FM would automatically open the file with unzip.  
But no, after installing unzip, when clicking on a file.zip in FM, I get 
to choose what program to use to unzip, without unzip being listed as a 
choice.  However, from FM, I can select xterm and access the command 
line, and access unzip, but hey, forgive me linux nerds, virtually all 
end-users kissed their command line bye bye back in the early 90s... 

  Is there some simple click and unzip utility for the tablets? Or do I 
have to walk thru the stinky side of linux command line to unzip a file?  

-- 

Always, Dr Fred C
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Re: Unzip utility for endusers

2008-11-30 Thread Hal Vaughan
It might help if you ask in a new and separate thread, since many people 
won't see this since it's replying to a music thread.

Hal

On Sunday 30 November 2008, Lake Stevens Dental wrote:
 OK, perhaps I've missed it -- perhaps it's ready to bite my nose off
 while poking around Maemo.  As a enduser, I can't find an unzip
 program that works with a single click to unzip downloaded files. Is
 there one? Or am I missing something when it comes to using it?

  Yes, there's unzip utility I downloaded from Maemo that apparently
 works at the command line mode -- it's got 5 stars (from some self
 appointed linux command line geek reviewers).  However, for most end
 users stepping back into command line world is like purposely
 stepping in dog poo then walking over your living room carpet.

   I figured unzip would work with the native FileManager so that when
 I clicked on a zip file, FM would automatically open the file with
 unzip. But no, after installing unzip, when clicking on a file.zip in
 FM, I get to choose what program to use to unzip, without unzip being
 listed as a choice.  However, from FM, I can select xterm and access
 the command line, and access unzip, but hey, forgive me linux nerds,
 virtually all end-users kissed their command line bye bye back in the
 early 90s...

   Is there some simple click and unzip utility for the tablets? Or do
 I have to walk thru the stinky side of linux command line to unzip a
 file?


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Re: Music Player Exasperation

2008-11-30 Thread Dmitry S. Makovey
Hal Vaughan wrote:
 Just a note to all who responded or are reading this topic:

 I've gotten a few responses privately, but it seems people are 
 forgetting to reply to the list instead of to me.

 So far the best solution is that I wrote a Perl script to go through my 
 entire music collection (which is all in flac, as I've said) and rename 
 each file so the track number precedes the track title.  It works for 
 now, but there's still a deficiency in media players that it leaves 
 open.
   
just in case that didn't come up yet - Canola2 seems to be adequate 
solution sorting by album etc. using tags. Don't have any Flac files to 
test, but seems to work properly with MP3s. You can also create 
playlists that it seems to follow (not much testing on my part though ;) ).
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Re: Music Player Exasperation

2008-11-30 Thread Martin Grimme
Hi,

I'm the the developer of MediaBox. Thanks for your mail. The next
version of MediaBox will read FLAC tags and sort by track number, so
that you don't have to encode the number in the filenames. Your mail
reminded me to make track number sorting work with FLAC properly.


Regards,
Martin


2008/12/1, Hal Vaughan [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 On Monday 01 December 2008, Dmitry S. Makovey wrote:
 Hal Vaughan wrote:
  Just a note to all who responded or are reading this topic:
 
  I've gotten a few responses privately, but it seems people are
  forgetting to reply to the list instead of to me.
 
  So far the best solution is that I wrote a Perl script to go
  through my entire music collection (which is all in flac, as I've
  said) and rename each file so the track number precedes the track
  title.  It works for now, but there's still a deficiency in media
  players that it leaves open.

 just in case that didn't come up yet - Canola2 seems to be adequate
 solution sorting by album etc. using tags. Don't have any Flac files
 to test, but seems to work properly with MP3s. You can also create
 playlists that it seems to follow (not much testing on my part though
 ;) ).

 It doesn't read flac at all.  I checked it out!  (That's one thing I
 love about Debian -- so easy to install and uninstall a package!)


 Hal


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Re: Music Player Exasperation

2008-11-30 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Monday 01 December 2008, Martin Grimme wrote:
 Hi,

 I'm the the developer of MediaBox. Thanks for your mail. The next
 version of MediaBox will read FLAC tags and sort by track number, so
 that you don't have to encode the number in the filenames. Your mail
 reminded me to make track number sorting work with FLAC properly.

Glad it helped!  Overall I like the program.  This one feature was a 
real pain for me at first.  I wanted to take the soundtrack to 
Umbrellas of Cherbourg with me to listen to and it includes the entire 
vocal track to the film, so I wanted it in order and was having a fit 
trying to add the tracks in order.  As I said, renaming them solved it.  
But if you add reading in FLAC tags and letting us sort, that's going to 
be just fantastic and I don't think any other players out there let you 
do it.

Just an interesting note.  When I had only one album loaded in and was 
trying to sort my tracks, I didn't see much to it, which was mainly 
because I couldn't do the one thing I needed.  Once I added a number of 
albums to the memory card, including a number of old radio shows and a 
lot of pics (I had just grabbed an SD card that had been in a camera), I 
was amazed at how easy it was to flip through albums, find what I 
needed, and play that album.  The same for photos.

Thanks for the hard work on it!


Hal
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