Browser Reload Tabs app?

[Randall]

As my N800 locks up sometimes, 2-3 times a day (I've got nothing running 
on it but the latest OS) is there a proggy that will re-open all my open 
Browser windows when I reboot the browser - ala Firefox?
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Re: N8xx ponderings

[James Knott]

kenneth marken wrote:
> Ognen Duzlevski wrote:
>   
>>> the only company that has given linux a fair chance in all this is asus, 
>>> and they have the worst linux distro in use...
>>>   
>>>   
>> Luckily, Ubuntu runs on Eee.
>> 
>
> while true, people will give xandros a spin, find it a nightmare and 
> then return the whole eeepc for the windows version...
>
> that is, if they didnt get talked out of buying based on price in the 
> first place by the staff at the local store...
>   

I got the bottom end 2G Surf for free, from my bank.  The Xandros Linux
on it is a bit of a pain and one thing I discovered is it doesn't like
to have a space or semi-colon in a WPA key.  I investigated installing
another distro on it, but found that due to limited hardware resources,
it would be very difficult to do.  I guess it's OK for kids, which was
it's intended market.


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Re: N8xx ponderings

[hendrik]

On Fri, Mar 06, 2009 at 07:53:28PM -0500, hend...@topoi.pooq.com wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 06, 2009 at 06:42:05PM -0300, Fernando Cassia wrote:
> > On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 5:28 PM, kenneth marken  
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > iirc, when first launched the linux variant was the lowest spec-ed one, 
> > > and
> > > the windows variants both came with rebates that made them as cheap or
> > > cheaper then the start out config of the linux one.
> > 
> > March 1, 2009
> > 
> > Dell offers Ubuntu-loaded Mini 9 netbook for $199
> > http://www.cheaplaptops.org.uk/20090301/dell-offer-mini-9-netbook-for-just-199/
> 
> And there's trouble with the openness of the video drivers, which may 
> make it difficult to upgrade or use nonUbuntu Linuxes.

Or have I mixed this up with another netbook?

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Re: Nokia device usage

[hendrik]

On Sat, Mar 07, 2009 at 02:41:04PM -0700, Mark wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 10:24 AM, John Holmblad
>  wrote:
> > Jean-Christian,
> >
> > you are, of course, correct in that Nokia has had tremendous success
> > with mass market mobile phones but not PDA's or IT's.
> >
> > Nokia might do well run the following experiment (in situ if you will)
> > to get a better (and sooner than 2 more generations from now) grasp of
> > what the mass market really expects/demands from an IT like product..
> >
> >    * Select a diversified (from janitor to exec level) sample of say
> >      100 NON-Technical employees of Nokia from around the world who do
> >      not already own/use an IT and provide them with a N810 + a mobile
> >      phone with data service but with all other apps besides voice on
> >      the mobile phone itself disabled. Disabling those apps obviously
> >      will force the user to "get to know" the N810.
> >
> >    * Provide no training, only the documentation in the product box.
> >
> >    * Let them use the combo for 90 days
> >
> >    * Run a focus group (or a few) at the end to record experiences,
> >      attitudes, perspectives on their use of the n810
> >
> > My own theory, so far unproven is that a truly successful IT product
> > should be able to take away market share from the smartphone market,
> > allowing the user to replace their smartphone with a less powerful
> > handset that supports voice + data (as a modem) + bluetooth + a very
> > strong battery and which for the most part, stays in the user's pocket.
> >
> 
> If Nokia had ever finished the software for the tablets, they would
> *already* have taken market share from the smartphone market. It makes
> a lot more sense to tether to a "dumb" phone (that is usually much
> smaller and lighter and is easily and cheaply replaced by a newer one)
> for Internet connectivity and have a device that is more or less open
> and very software upgradeable than an expensive smartphone that will
> be quickly outdated and basically not upgradeable. Sure, you may be
> able to get lots of apps, but you're pretty much stuck with the form
> factor and shipped OS.

Apple is certainly doing well with their ipods -- even though they're 
not phones.

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Re: Nokia device usage

[John Holmblad]

Andrew,

yes, I am being overly presumptuous as to what kind of radio technology 
will and will not be in the next turn of the IT hardware. I must have 
read it somewhere that it was going to be HSDPA only.

.

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John Holmblad

 

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Andrew Flegg wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 8:59 PM, Jean-Christian de Rivaz  wrote:
>   
>> I don't understand why the next tablet will not be able to make regular
>> phone call, since it will have 3G link. It's a non sense.
>> 
>
> You seem awfully sure about the features of a device which has yet to
> be announced, let alone released.
>
> Perhaps such certainty should be held in check until an announcement
> is actually made about what the RX-51 and RX-71 *are*?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Andrew
>
>   
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Re: Nokia device usage

[Andrew Flegg]

On Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 8:59 PM, Jean-Christian de Rivaz  wrote:
>
> I don't understand why the next tablet will not be able to make regular
> phone call, since it will have 3G link. It's a non sense.

You seem awfully sure about the features of a device which has yet to
be announced, let alone released.

Perhaps such certainty should be held in check until an announcement
is actually made about what the RX-51 and RX-71 *are*?

Cheers,

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Re: Nokia device usage

[Mark]

On Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 10:24 AM, John Holmblad
 wrote:
> Jean-Christian,
>
> you are, of course, correct in that Nokia has had tremendous success
> with mass market mobile phones but not PDA's or IT's.
>
> Nokia might do well run the following experiment (in situ if you will)
> to get a better (and sooner than 2 more generations from now) grasp of
> what the mass market really expects/demands from an IT like product..
>
>    * Select a diversified (from janitor to exec level) sample of say
>      100 NON-Technical employees of Nokia from around the world who do
>      not already own/use an IT and provide them with a N810 + a mobile
>      phone with data service but with all other apps besides voice on
>      the mobile phone itself disabled. Disabling those apps obviously
>      will force the user to "get to know" the N810.
>
>    * Provide no training, only the documentation in the product box.
>
>    * Let them use the combo for 90 days
>
>    * Run a focus group (or a few) at the end to record experiences,
>      attitudes, perspectives on their use of the n810
>
> My own theory, so far unproven is that a truly successful IT product
> should be able to take away market share from the smartphone market,
> allowing the user to replace their smartphone with a less powerful
> handset that supports voice + data (as a modem) + bluetooth + a very
> strong battery and which for the most part, stays in the user's pocket.
>

If Nokia had ever finished the software for the tablets, they would
*already* have taken market share from the smartphone market. It makes
a lot more sense to tether to a "dumb" phone (that is usually much
smaller and lighter and is easily and cheaply replaced by a newer one)
for Internet connectivity and have a device that is more or less open
and very software upgradeable than an expensive smartphone that will
be quickly outdated and basically not upgradeable. Sure, you may be
able to get lots of apps, but you're pretty much stuck with the form
factor and shipped OS.

I'm really beginning to wonder if the tablets are strictly a
teaching/testing exercise for Nokia's new hires to see if they can
produce something that works at all before turning them loose on
"real" products. They certainly don't seem to be at all serious about
selling them.

Mark
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Re: Nokia device usage

[Jean-Christian de Rivaz]

John Holmblad a écrit :
> Jean-Christian,

> Perhaps the forthcoming G4 of the IT, with its HSDPA support, if and 
> when it is released, will eliminate the need for the handset altogether 
> for those intrepid enough to replace their GSM voice provider with a 
> provider of SIP trunking services. Those of us, in the U.S. for 
> example,  who use CDMA/EVDO networks for our mobile service will either 
> have to switch to a mobile service provider that supports HSDPA or, 
> utilize the bluetooth interface on the G4 IT to our CDMA/EVDO mobile 
> phone, and live with the vestigial (for this particular use case) HSDPA 
> radio.

John,

I don't understand why the next tablet will not be able to make regular 
phone call, since it will have 3G link. It's a non sense. Of course it's 
possible to use SIP over HSDPA, but it's not a service that provides 
well know operators (at lest in Switzerland) where the vast majority of 
people already have there usual number (maybe this will change in the 
future). I hope the HSDPA is not the only protocol of the next tablet as 
there is still vast area where only the GSM signal will be available. 
And from my experience, I doubt that even the 3G IP link have acceptable 
quality of service to pass a SIP call if your are not is near ideal 
condition compared to a regular call.

Best regards,
-- 
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Re: Naive question , How I can control where applications are installed ?

[Kevin Neely]

not really, only thing you can do is run the OS from the mem card.

K
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Naive question , How I can control where applications are installed ?

[Samer Azmy]

All,

Sorry for the naive question, is there is a way to control where
Applications are installed on my Nokia N810.
I'd rather to install all applications on the Memory card instead of the
built-in memory

Thankx
Samer

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Re: Nokia device usage

[John Holmblad]

Jean-Christian,

you are, of course, correct in that Nokia has had tremendous success 
with mass market mobile phones but not PDA's or IT's. 

Nokia might do well run the following experiment (in situ if you will) 
to get a better (and sooner than 2 more generations from now) grasp of 
what the mass market really expects/demands from an IT like product..

* Select a diversified (from janitor to exec level) sample of say
  100 NON-Technical employees of Nokia from around the world who do
  not already own/use an IT and provide them with a N810 + a mobile
  phone with data service but with all other apps besides voice on
  the mobile phone itself disabled. Disabling those apps obviously
  will force the user to "get to know" the N810.

* Provide no training, only the documentation in the product box.

* Let them use the combo for 90 days

* Run a focus group (or a few) at the end to record experiences,
  attitudes, perspectives on their use of the n810

My own theory, so far unproven is that a truly successful IT product 
should be able to take away market share from the smartphone market, 
allowing the user to replace their smartphone with a less powerful 
handset that supports voice + data (as a modem) + bluetooth + a very 
strong battery and which for the most part, stays in the user's pocket.

Perhaps the forthcoming G4 of the IT, with its HSDPA support, if and 
when it is released, will eliminate the need for the handset altogether 
for those intrepid enough to replace their GSM voice provider with a 
provider of SIP trunking services. Those of us, in the U.S. for 
example,  who use CDMA/EVDO networks for our mobile service will either 
have to switch to a mobile service provider that supports HSDPA or, 
utilize the bluetooth interface on the G4 IT to our CDMA/EVDO mobile 
phone, and live with the vestigial (for this particular use case) HSDPA 
radio.



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Jean-Christian de Rivaz wrote:
> John Holmblad a écrit :
>> Jean-Chirstian,
>>
>> you have put into words a good operational definition of the mass 
>> market for the context of this discussion, that is:
>>
>>"...people that don't have some technical orientation"
>>
>> Like many companies, Nokia seems to have been fooled into thinking 
>> that the mass market as one that DOES have a technical orientation. 
>> Apple, a very experienced marketing as well as technology company 
>> does not make this mistake.
>>
>> I for one would like to see Apple acquire Nokia. That would be a 
>> great combination. Unfortunately, and in direct contrast to Cisco,  
>> Apple does not do acquisitions  and they have never been good at it.
>
> I was not talking about Apple. Nokia make a hug number of phone that 
> are buy by people without technical orientation. Theres phones are 
> easy to use and the interface is not frustrating as is the current 
> interface of too many applications of the tablet. Nokia, as a company, 
> can do a super tablet product, but this need strategic decision from 
> the top of the company to put the most skilled QA and interface 
> engineering resources there have to work with the current team.
>
> I think this is the good time to do so. Now the hardware and the 
> infrastructure of the tablet is mature enough. The market too.
>
> Best Regards.
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Re: Nokia device usage

[Matt Emson]

Sent from my iPhone

On 7 Mar 2009, at 16:05, Julius Szelagiewicz  wrote:

> Mark,
>You can substitute "Motorola cell phones" for "Nokia tablets" and
> your arguments will remain valid. Hardware is easier than software.
> julius


Now, that's just plain mean!! No company makes phones as bad as  
Motorola ;-)




>
>
> On Fri, 6 Mar 2009, Mark wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 3:52 PM, Andrew Flegg  wrote:
>>> John, you wrote:

>>> [snip]
 I have to agree with Mark that, implicitly, Nokia misleads the  
 public to
 the extent that it markets the IT's along side of its other mass  
 market
 mobile phone devices if, in fact, the IT's are a work in progress  
 (I
 agree, they are, unfortunately)  that will take 5 generations   
 and a few
 more years to get the product ready for the mass market.
>>>
>>> I don't think they're yet ready for the mainstream, but I don't  
>>> think they're an albatross around the neck of anyone who buys  
>>> them, as your Amazon figures show:
>>>
 N800
 4 stars out of 5 with a sample size of 172

 N810
 4 stars out of 5 with a sample size of 93
>>>
>>> Anyway, let's remember the "not ready for mainstream" point...
>>>
 Over a period of three years, I can count on one finger the  
 number
 of individuals besides myself that I have actually seen
 carrying/using an IT
>>>
>>> As you say, the mainstream aren't buying them yet. If they're not  
>>> ready for the mainstream, that's a good thing, no?
>>>
>>
>> Not really, because as long as they can keep selling them in
>> relatively small numbers to fanboys they don't have to worry about
>> supporting them or ever polishing them to the point that they are
>> living up to their full potential. Do you really think the successors
>> will be any better? They'll keep updating the hardware, and keep
>> spending far too little time finishing the software. No generation
>> will ever be better than the current ones in that respect.
>>
>> What good is fantastic hardware without software that can make full  
>> use of it?
>>
>> The N800 has been discontinued for a while already, and at this point
>> there's zero chance that I'll ever be able to use the hardware to its
>> full potential. Nokia has already moved on, and once the next
>> generation comes out most of the kind and generous developers who are
>> supplying us with apps for the current crop will move most of their
>> attention to the new device. They've already said that there will be
>> zero backwards compatibility with the OS and software because the
>> hardware is going to be fundamentally different.
>>
>> Do you not understand that as long as they keep coming out with new
>> devices and dropping the old ones there will NEVER be one that is
>> ready for consumers? In order for a device to be ready for consumers
>> they have to stand by it long enough to finish the software.
>>
>> Mark
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Re: Nokia device usage

[kenneth marken]

hend...@topoi.pooq.com wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 07, 2009 at 01:06:58PM +, Matt Emson wrote:
>>> 3. Apple does not support Free Software in general
>>> (if you know any Apple software released under the GNU GPL Free
>>> Software license, let me know)
>>> that puts it at odds with the N8xx tablets Linux OS foundation.
>> Free software does not require GPL.
> 
> squeak is a smalltalk inmplementation.  It was apparently put together 
> in an Apple research facility, and appears to be free, but not GPL'd
> 
> ...
> ...
> ...
>>>
>>> So please don´t. I wouldn´t buy any device from Apple corp.
>> Apple Corp is the Beatles record label, isn't it?
> 
> Yes.  Apple licenced the name to build their computers.  There was
> legal dispute about the scope of the licence when Apple started with 
> itunes.
> 
iirc, apple computers got sued by apple records when they first got the 
media spotlight with the appleII (oh how the mighty have fallen, that 
thing was basically as open as one could get when it came to tinkering), 
but settled with the agreement that apple computers would not go into 
the music biz.

so not surprising that there was a whole lot of noise and lawyers when 
itms opened up...
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Re: Nokia device usage

[kenneth marken]

Matt Emson wrote:
> See online reply.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 7 Mar 2009, at 02:08, Fernando Cassia  wrote:
> 
>> On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 7:37 PM, John Holmblad
>>  wrote:
>>> I for one would like to see Apple acquire Nokia. That would be a  
>>> great
>>> combination.
>> A couple points:
>>
>> 1. Apple makes proprietary, closed solutions. Try to reverse engineer
>> Apple´s firmware for compatibility reasons and you´ll see Apple
>> lawyers coming to get you.
> 
> 
> You don't need to. This is the point. There are only two types of  
> people that need to do tho : 1) people who don't want Apple hardware  
> but want Apple Software, 2) iPhone users Who cant live in the sade  
> world Apple created.
>>
>> 2. Apple makes expensive, not cheap, hardware.
> 
> This is a misconception Apple makes expensive hardware that is well  
> specified. Apple does not cater to PC builder types.
> 
>>
>> 3. Apple does not support Free Software in general
>> (if you know any Apple software released under the GNU GPL Free
>> Software license, let me know)
>> that puts it at odds with the N8xx tablets Linux OS foundation.
> 
> Free software does not require GPL.
> 
>> 4. Apple continues pretending Linux doesn´t exist (Quicktime for Lin 
>> ux, anyone).
> 
> Lots of companies ignore Linux. It's not an Apple exclusive.
> 
>>
>> 5. Apple charges an arm and a leg for software upgrades
> 
> No, no it doesn't. Apple charges for major releases. But point  
> releases (eg. Ubuntu 8.04 to 8.10) are free. 10.4 to 10.5 was a major  
> release. Microsoft charges way more for the same type of upgrade.
> 
> 
>>
>> 6. Apple doesn´t like people tinkering with its OS.
> 
> There's not a lot you need to tinker with. It just works.
> 
>>
>> 7. Apple is just a Microsoft with a sense of style.
>> There´s plenty of "not invented here syndrome", like Microsoft does
>> with WMV, Apple does with Quicktime. Why not embrace OpenOffice.org?
>> Not invented at Apple, so it must suck, right?.
> 
> 
> Because Apple have iWork, which is pretty much better that OpenOffice  
> for most users.
>>
>> So please don´t. I wouldn´t buy any device from Apple corp.
> 
> Apple Corp is the Beatles record label, isn't it?
> 
> Each to their own.
> 
> 
>> FC
>>
>>> not do acquisitions  and they have never been good at it.
>>>

i would simply say, if you want a iphone, buy a iphone, if you want a 
tablet, buy a tablet. but do not buy a tablet, expecting to get a  iphone!
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Re: N8xx ponderings

[kenneth marken]

lakestevensdental wrote:
>> On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 5:28 PM, kenneth marken  
>> wrote:
 iirc, when first launched the linux variant was the lowest spec-ed 
 one, and
 the windows variants both came with rebates that made them as cheap or
 cheaper then the start out config of the linux one.
> FYI, you can install Ubuntu Easy Peasy on a Linux netbook with a couple 
> easy steps.  Dual boot to XP or Xandros is possible. 
> 
> Also, if you've got a spare XP license floating around, it's relatively 
> simple to install XP on a linux netbook 
> ,
>  
> nLited or not.  FYI, my nLited XP eee netbook running at a modest 600M 
> speed boots from solid state memory in about 15 seconds, about a minute 
> faster than most any other XP I've used.  It's truly impressive how well 
> XP runs when you nLite and remove all the MS junk you never use or 
> need.  I also just upgraded from 500M to a SODIMM 2G internal memory 
> card for $25.  Meanwhile, my ntablet appears stuck with a whopping 128M... 
> 
fully aware of it, but does that info help a customer that may not even 
have restored the os of any previous computer without grabbing a nearby 
geek?
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Re: Nokia device usage

[Julius Szelagiewicz]

Mark,
You can substitute "Motorola cell phones" for "Nokia tablets" and
your arguments will remain valid. Hardware is easier than software.
julius

On Fri, 6 Mar 2009, Mark wrote:

> On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 3:52 PM, Andrew Flegg  wrote:
> > John, you wrote:
> >>
> > [snip]
> >> I have to agree with Mark that, implicitly, Nokia misleads the public to
> >> the extent that it markets the IT's along side of its other mass market
> >> mobile phone devices if, in fact, the IT's are a work in progress (I
> >> agree, they are, unfortunately)? that will take 5 generations? and a few
> >> more years to get the product ready for the mass market.
> >
> > I don't think they're yet ready for the mainstream, but I don't think 
> > they're an albatross around the neck of anyone who buys them, as your 
> > Amazon figures show:
> >
> >> N800
> >>? ? 4 stars out of 5 with a sample size of 172
> >>
> >> N810
> >>? ? 4 stars out of 5 with a sample size of 93
> >
> > Anyway, let's remember the "not ready for mainstream" point...
> >
> >>? ? Over a period of three years, I can count on one finger the number
> >>? ? of individuals besides myself that I have actually seen
> >>? ? carrying/using an IT
> >
> > As you say, the mainstream aren't buying them yet. If they're not ready for 
> > the mainstream, that's a good thing, no?
> >
>
> Not really, because as long as they can keep selling them in
> relatively small numbers to fanboys they don't have to worry about
> supporting them or ever polishing them to the point that they are
> living up to their full potential. Do you really think the successors
> will be any better? They'll keep updating the hardware, and keep
> spending far too little time finishing the software. No generation
> will ever be better than the current ones in that respect.
>
> What good is fantastic hardware without software that can make full use of it?
>
> The N800 has been discontinued for a while already, and at this point
> there's zero chance that I'll ever be able to use the hardware to its
> full potential. Nokia has already moved on, and once the next
> generation comes out most of the kind and generous developers who are
> supplying us with apps for the current crop will move most of their
> attention to the new device. They've already said that there will be
> zero backwards compatibility with the OS and software because the
> hardware is going to be fundamentally different.
>
> Do you not understand that as long as they keep coming out with new
> devices and dropping the old ones there will NEVER be one that is
> ready for consumers? In order for a device to be ready for consumers
> they have to stand by it long enough to finish the software.
>
> Mark
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Re: Nokia device usage

[hendrik]

On Sat, Mar 07, 2009 at 01:06:58PM +, Matt Emson wrote:
> >
> > 3. Apple does not support Free Software in general
> > (if you know any Apple software released under the GNU GPL Free
> > Software license, let me know)
> > that puts it at odds with the N8xx tablets Linux OS foundation.
> 
> Free software does not require GPL.

squeak is a smalltalk inmplementation.  It was apparently put together 
in an Apple research facility, and appears to be free, but not GPL'd

...
...
...
> >
> >
> > So please don´t. I wouldn´t buy any device from Apple corp.
> 
> Apple Corp is the Beatles record label, isn't it?

Yes.  Apple licenced the name to build their computers.  There was
legal dispute about the scope of the licence when Apple started with 
itunes.

-- hendrik
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Re: sync with google calendar?

[Laura Conrad]

> "Graham" == Graham Cobb  writes:
Graham> On Saturday 07 March 2009 01:09:15 Mark wrote:
>> Ah, now I remember... that's the same problem I had. It is due to a
>> feature/bug with the onscreen keyboard where it always wants to
>> capitalize the first letter of every entry "for you". It seems to be
>> aware of MicroB and doesn't do that for Web logins, but does for text
>> entry in most other intstalled apps. 

Graham> This doesn't help you but it is actually a bug in the
Graham> application.  The program is supposed to tell the keyboard
Graham> whether or not to capitalise the first letter.  It sounds
Graham> as though MicroB does do this for the password but Erming
Graham> does not.

Yes, I've reported it on the bug tracker, as well as my workaround.
(I worked around the problem by entering another letter in front of
the real password, and then deleting the extraneous letter.)

The problem with the time zone turned out to be that I hadn't set my
time zone on the 810.  

I still haven't found a way to get GPE to display evening appointments
on the day view, but I can live without that.  

-- 
Laura   (mailto:lcon...@laymusic.org http://www.laymusic.org/ )
(617) 661-8097  233 Broadway, Cambridge, MA 02139   

We had a young pitcher on that club named Jimmy St. Vrain.  He was a
left-handed pitcher and a right-handed batter.  But an absolutely
terrible hitter -- never even got a loud foul off anybody.

...he came back after striking out the second time, Frank Sele, our
manager, said, "Jimmy, you're a left-handed pitcher, why don't you
turn around and bat from the left side, too?"

Actually, Frank was half kidding, but Jimmy took him seriously.  So
the next time he went up he batted left-handed.  Turned around and
stood on the opposite side of  the plate from where he was used to,
you know.  And darned if he didn't actually hit the ball.  He tapped a
slow roller down to Honus Wagner at shortstop and took  off as fast as
he could go...but instead of running to first base, he headed for
*third*! 

Oh, my God! What bedlam! Everybody yelling and screaming at poor Jimmy
as he raced to third base, head down, spikes flying, determined to get
there ahead of the throw.  Later on, Honus told us that as a matter of
fact he almost *did* throw the ball to third.

"I'm standing there with the ball in my hand," Honus said, "looking at
this guy running from home to third, and for an instant there I swear
I didn't know *where* to throw the damn ball.  And when I finally did
throw to first, I wasn't at all sure it was the right thing to do!"

Davy Jones, quoted in "The Glory of their Times" by Lawrence S. Ritter

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Re: sync with google calendar?

[Graham Cobb]

On Saturday 07 March 2009 01:09:15 Mark wrote:
> Ah, now I remember... that's the same problem I had. It is due to a
> feature/bug with the onscreen keyboard where it always wants to
> capitalize the first letter of every entry "for you". It seems to be
> aware of MicroB and doesn't do that for Web logins, but does for text
> entry in most other intstalled apps. 

This doesn't help you but it is actually a bug in the application.  The 
program is supposed to tell the keyboard whether or not to capitalise the 
first letter.  It sounds as though MicroB does do this for the password but 
Erming does not.

Graham
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Re: Nokia device usage

[Matt Emson]

See online reply.

Sent from my iPhone

On 7 Mar 2009, at 02:08, Fernando Cassia  wrote:

> On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 7:37 PM, John Holmblad
>  wrote:
>>
>> I for one would like to see Apple acquire Nokia. That would be a  
>> great
>> combination.
>
> A couple points:
>
> 1. Apple makes proprietary, closed solutions. Try to reverse engineer
> Apple´s firmware for compatibility reasons and you´ll see Apple
> lawyers coming to get you.


You don't need to. This is the point. There are only two types of  
people that need to do tho : 1) people who don't want Apple hardware  
but want Apple Software, 2) iPhone users Who cant live in the sade  
world Apple created.
>
>
> 2. Apple makes expensive, not cheap, hardware.

This is a misconception Apple makes expensive hardware that is well  
specified. Apple does not cater to PC builder types.

>
>
> 3. Apple does not support Free Software in general
> (if you know any Apple software released under the GNU GPL Free
> Software license, let me know)
> that puts it at odds with the N8xx tablets Linux OS foundation.

Free software does not require GPL.

>
> 4. Apple continues pretending Linux doesn´t exist (Quicktime for Lin 
> ux, anyone).

Lots of companies ignore Linux. It's not an Apple exclusive.

>
>
> 5. Apple charges an arm and a leg for software upgrades

No, no it doesn't. Apple charges for major releases. But point  
releases (eg. Ubuntu 8.04 to 8.10) are free. 10.4 to 10.5 was a major  
release. Microsoft charges way more for the same type of upgrade.


>
>
> 6. Apple doesn´t like people tinkering with its OS.

There's not a lot you need to tinker with. It just works.

>
>
> 7. Apple is just a Microsoft with a sense of style.
> There´s plenty of "not invented here syndrome", like Microsoft does
> with WMV, Apple does with Quicktime. Why not embrace OpenOffice.org?
> Not invented at Apple, so it must suck, right?.


Because Apple have iWork, which is pretty much better that OpenOffice  
for most users.
>
>
> So please don´t. I wouldn´t buy any device from Apple corp.

Apple Corp is the Beatles record label, isn't it?

Each to their own.


>
> FC
>
>> not do acquisitions  and they have never been good at it.
>>
>>
>> Best Regards,
>>
>>
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Re: Nokia device usage

[Jean-Christian de Rivaz]

John Holmblad a écrit :
> Jean-Chirstian,
> 
> you have put into words a good operational definition of the mass market 
> for the context of this discussion, that is:
> 
>"...people that don't have some technical orientation"
> 
> Like many companies, Nokia seems to have been fooled into thinking that 
> the mass market as one that DOES have a technical orientation. Apple, a 
> very experienced marketing as well as technology company does not make 
> this mistake.
> 
> I for one would like to see Apple acquire Nokia. That would be a great 
> combination. Unfortunately, and in direct contrast to Cisco,  Apple does 
> not do acquisitions  and they have never been good at it.

I was not talking about Apple. Nokia make a hug number of phone that are 
buy by people without technical orientation. Theres phones are easy to 
use and the interface is not frustrating as is the current interface of 
too many applications of the tablet. Nokia, as a company, can do a super 
tablet product, but this need strategic decision from the top of the 
company to put the most skilled QA and interface engineering resources 
there have to work with the current team.

I think this is the good time to do so. Now the hardware and the 
infrastructure of the tablet is mature enough. The market too.

Best Regards.
-- 
Jean-Christian de Rivaz
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