Re: Iphone + tethering - No Way

[Brad Midgley]

Hey

I've also used the iPhone sim for data etc in a less locked-down
device. Have you noticed the strange text messages you get whenever
there's a status change on the voicemailbox? It can be annoying. The
text message is a URL and appears to be related to iPhone's special
handling of voicemail.

It would be nice if we could figure out their special voicemail
handler, or, barring that, just filter out these messages.

Jonathan Greene  wrote:
> I've been using the original iPhone SIM in various devices for years
> now and I tether all kinds of mobile devices from laptops, N810,
> netbooks ... no issues. I've cleared 2Gb a few times, but 5 would be
> more like your only connection ...


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Re: Nokia device usage

[Mark]

On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 7:02 PM, James Knott  wrote:
> Mark wrote:
>> On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 7:14 PM, James Knott  wrote:
>>
>>> Bottom line, there are a lot of technical and usage reasons that make it
>>> much harder for malware to attack Linux/Unix.
>>>
>>>
>> But NOT impossible, and the fact remains that the overwhelming
>> majority of malware writers are either Mac or Linux fanboys and aren't
>> about to attack their own pet OS or they are simply gunning for the OS
>> that is installed on the overwhelming majority of PCs worldwide.
>>
>>
>
> I never claimed it was impossible.  However, how do you know the
> majority of malware writers run Linux or Mac
>

You're putting words in my mouth. I never said that. I said that they
were either Linux or Mac fanboys OR were simply targeting the most
common OS.

Mark
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Re: Iphone + tethering - No Way

[Kevin T. Neely]

RDP and VNC are pretty light as far as full graphical protocols go, although
you may be right about eating up the usage.  Still, I'd imagine actually
DOING the web browsing on a tethered phone would use just as much data.  I
can easily chew through 20-30MB on  train ride just doing my mail.

ICA is Citrix's lighter protocol.

K

On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 7:04 PM, John Holmblad <
jholmb...@acadiasecurenets.com> wrote:

> Jonathan,
>
> I did not ask the sales rep, HOW ATT prevents tethering on the iphone
> and it did not occur to me that they would use the user identity and
> account info derived from the SIM to prevent tethering. For that to
> work, the ATT network would have to be able to determine when a device
> was attempting to tether while authenticated with a SIM and user account
> that did not allow that. I just assume that the iphone hw+sw was
> designed to not include tethering capability, from Apple, at least. As
> Jose points out, there is at least one app available to turn the iphone
> into an IEEE 802.11 Access Point.
>
> Now, I have to ask, does "jailbreaking" the iphone violate the ATT
> commercial terms of its use on the ATT Network?
>
>
> And speaking of data volume limits for these plans, I have learned that
> a good way to exceed the 5gb limit per month of either ATT's or Verizon
> Wireless's data plan is to start doing RDP or VNC sessions to other
> computers/servers from a computer that is tethered to your mobile
> device. Then launch a www browser on the target computer/server and
> visit your typical www sites (I am not even talking about, say youtube
> here) using that browser on that computer/server. With all the rich
> graphics. and dancing baloney on today's typical www site you will
> quickly  consume that 5 gb on the mobile network with all the graphical
> content being played out over the RDP or VNC session. Actually I am
> making a bit of an assumption here, because so far I have only tried
> this using RDP. VNC may be more bit efficient.
>
>  I understand that Citrix, the original developer of the RDP components
> that Microsoft uses, themselves have a more efficient version of RDP
> (RDP+?} that is, well, more efficient when it comes to the video part of
> RDP.
>
> In fact, and speaking only based on my experience with the typical real
> bandwidths (~300kbps in the direction to the tethered device) that I get
> over the Verizon Wireless network in the locations where I use it, I get
> that old "dial up/slow-mo" feeling sometimes when using this service.
> The performance  is bad enough that I wish it would be better, but good
> enough that I keep using it.
>
>
> Best Regards,
>
>
>
> John Holmblad
>
>
>
> Acadia Secure Networks, LLC
>
> * *
>
>
> Jonathan Greene wrote:
> > I've been using the original iPhone SIM in various devices for years
> > now and I tether all kinds of mobile devices from laptops, N810,
> > netbooks ... no issues. I've cleared 2Gb a few times, but 5 would be
> > more like your only connection ...
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 4:40 PM, Kevin T. Neely
> >  wrote:
> >
> >> FWIW, I don't have an iphone, but I do have a $15/mo unlimited (which
> means
> >> 5GB) plan from AT&T and I tether my laptop to that.
> >>
> >> K
> >>
> >> On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 1:27 PM, John Holmblad
> >>  wrote:
> >>
> >>> All,
> >>>
> >>> I finally had a chance to visit an ATT store near me to check out
> iphone
> >>> service plan pricing. In the process I learned that the iphone does NOT
> >>> support tethering (via bluetooth or otherwise) of other devices to it
> >>> for the purpose of Internet access for such other devices. Furthermore
> I
> >>> learned that ATT, like Verizon Wireless, has 2 choices of data plans
> for
> >>> those devices that DO support tethering as explained to me by their
> >>> salesperson. These choices are
> >>>
> >>>1. Device only Internet access   $30
> >>>US/month
> >>>
> >>>2. #1 above + Device Tethering capability  $60 US/month^1
> >>>(there is a limit of 5gb/month put on this)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ATT also has a data only plan for users who just want to use a USB or
> >>> Cardbus adapter for mobile Internet access for their PC or other
> device.
> >>> The monthly charge for that plan, called "Data Connect" is $60/month
> >>> also with a 5gb limit but with overage charges for use beyond the 5
> >>> gb/month.
> >>>
> >>> I should note that the $60 US/month for  pricing plan #2 above from ATT
> >>> compares with a price of $44.99 US/month^2 from Verizon which has the
> >>> same 5gb monthly limit (stated in its fine print), a ~$15 US/month
> price
> >>> difference in favor of Verizon Wireless vs ATT.
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>>
> >>> Best Regards,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> John Holmblad
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Acadia Secure Networks, LLC
> >>>
> >>> * *
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> 
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Re: Nokia device usage

[John Holmblad]

James,

as you are well aware, a user of a Microsoft Desktop or Server OS is not 
required to use Outlook for email. Mozilla Thunderbird works quite well  
on Microsoft OS's and of course there is Evolution.

I should add that, just as Microsoft has mitigated/eliminated well known 
vulnerabilities in earlier versions of the Microsoft OS's  through the 
release of improved versions of their OS's  including Sever 2003/2008, 
XP SP1/2/3, and Vista and Vista SP1, Microsoft has also 
mitigated/eliminated many vulnerabilities in the components of earlier 
versions of Microsoft Office with the release of Microsoft Office 2007.


Best Regards,

 

John Holmblad

 

Acadia Secure Networks, LLC




James Knott wrote:
> kenneth marken wrote:
>   
>>> Bottom line, there are a lot of technical and usage reasons that make it
>>> much harder for malware to attack Linux/Unix.
>>>
>>>
>>>   
>> the "big" problem here is that the target for said malware have
>> changed...
>>
>> its no longer about bringing down whole systems. these days its the
>> users data they are after. credit card info, codes of all kinds, and
>> just about anything else.
>>
>> was there not a sweep of ransom attacks where a worm would archive the
>> whole content of the users document dir, and encrypt the archive?
>> leaving a message to send x amount of money to some account for the
>> password?
>>
>> under these situations, read access is more then enough access, most
>> of the time.
>>
>> the only option i can see for the user then is to run every program he
>> tries to make use of online, inside some kind of chroot can. but even
>> thats not perfect.
>>
>> basically, the only really safe option is to yank that plug, and use
>> only home-coded apps...
>> 
>
> Again, it's harder.  In Outlook, for example, a virus attached to an
> email could run as soon as the message was read, without the user having
> to do anything.  For a virus to run in Linux, the user would have to:
> 1) detach the file
> 2) make it executable
> 3) manually run it
>
> In short, it won't run without the user taking 3 deliberate steps to run it.
>
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Re: Iphone + tethering - No Way

[John Holmblad]

Jonathan,

I did not ask the sales rep, HOW ATT prevents tethering on the iphone 
and it did not occur to me that they would use the user identity and 
account info derived from the SIM to prevent tethering. For that to 
work, the ATT network would have to be able to determine when a device 
was attempting to tether while authenticated with a SIM and user account 
that did not allow that. I just assume that the iphone hw+sw was 
designed to not include tethering capability, from Apple, at least. As 
Jose points out, there is at least one app available to turn the iphone 
into an IEEE 802.11 Access Point.

Now, I have to ask, does "jailbreaking" the iphone violate the ATT 
commercial terms of its use on the ATT Network?


And speaking of data volume limits for these plans, I have learned that  
a good way to exceed the 5gb limit per month of either ATT's or Verizon 
Wireless's data plan is to start doing RDP or VNC sessions to other 
computers/servers from a computer that is tethered to your mobile 
device. Then launch a www browser on the target computer/server and 
visit your typical www sites (I am not even talking about, say youtube 
here) using that browser on that computer/server. With all the rich 
graphics. and dancing baloney on today's typical www site you will 
quickly  consume that 5 gb on the mobile network with all the graphical 
content being played out over the RDP or VNC session. Actually I am 
making a bit of an assumption here, because so far I have only tried 
this using RDP. VNC may be more bit efficient.

 I understand that Citrix, the original developer of the RDP components 
that Microsoft uses, themselves have a more efficient version of RDP 
(RDP+?} that is, well, more efficient when it comes to the video part of 
RDP.

In fact, and speaking only based on my experience with the typical real 
bandwidths (~300kbps in the direction to the tethered device) that I get 
over the Verizon Wireless network in the locations where I use it, I get 
that old "dial up/slow-mo" feeling sometimes when using this service. 
The performance  is bad enough that I wish it would be better, but good 
enough that I keep using it.


Best Regards,

 

John Holmblad

 

Acadia Secure Networks, LLC

* *


Jonathan Greene wrote:
> I've been using the original iPhone SIM in various devices for years
> now and I tether all kinds of mobile devices from laptops, N810,
> netbooks ... no issues. I've cleared 2Gb a few times, but 5 would be
> more like your only connection ...
>
> On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 4:40 PM, Kevin T. Neely
>  wrote:
>   
>> FWIW, I don't have an iphone, but I do have a $15/mo unlimited (which means
>> 5GB) plan from AT&T and I tether my laptop to that.
>>
>> K
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 1:27 PM, John Holmblad
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> All,
>>>
>>> I finally had a chance to visit an ATT store near me to check out iphone
>>> service plan pricing. In the process I learned that the iphone does NOT
>>> support tethering (via bluetooth or otherwise) of other devices to it
>>> for the purpose of Internet access for such other devices. Furthermore I
>>> learned that ATT, like Verizon Wireless, has 2 choices of data plans for
>>> those devices that DO support tethering as explained to me by their
>>> salesperson. These choices are
>>>
>>>1. Device only Internet access   $30
>>>US/month
>>>
>>>2. #1 above + Device Tethering capability  $60 US/month^1
>>>(there is a limit of 5gb/month put on this)
>>>
>>>
>>> ATT also has a data only plan for users who just want to use a USB or
>>> Cardbus adapter for mobile Internet access for their PC or other device.
>>> The monthly charge for that plan, called "Data Connect" is $60/month
>>> also with a 5gb limit but with overage charges for use beyond the 5
>>> gb/month.
>>>
>>> I should note that the $60 US/month for  pricing plan #2 above from ATT
>>> compares with a price of $44.99 US/month^2 from Verizon which has the
>>> same 5gb monthly limit (stated in its fine print), a ~$15 US/month price
>>> difference in favor of Verizon Wireless vs ATT.
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> John Holmblad
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Acadia Secure Networks, LLC
>>>
>>> * *
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>>
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Fwd: Iphone + tethering - No Way

[Jose Vargas]

Funny Apple hasn't sued them.  The developer explicitly states you'll have
to jailbreak.

Jose

http://www.junefabrics.com/iphone/index.php


On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 8:17 PM, John Holmblad <
jholmb...@acadiasecurenets.com> wrote:

> Jose,
>
> Interesting. I have to wonder though if ATT considers that a hack as
> legitimate as it might be that violates the use policy of its service
> for the iphone. There is a similar app that installs/runs on 802.11
> enabled Windows Mobile devices.
>
>
> Best Regards,
>
>
>
> John Holmblad
>
>
>
> Acadia Secure Networks, LLC
>
>
>
>
> Jose Vargas wrote:
> > Read PDA.net is now available for iPhone that for around $40 turns it
> > into a wireless router.
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 4:27 PM, Jonathan Greene
> > mailto:atmasph...@atmasphere.net>> wrote:
> >
> > I've been using the original iPhone SIM in various devices for years
> > now and I tether all kinds of mobile devices from laptops, N810,
> > netbooks ... no issues. I've cleared 2Gb a few times, but 5 would be
> > more like your only connection ...
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 4:40 PM, Kevin T. Neely
> > mailto:ktne...@astroturfgarden.com>>
> > wrote:
> > > FWIW, I don't have an iphone, but I do have a $15/mo unlimited
> > (which means
> > > 5GB) plan from AT&T and I tether my laptop to that.
> > >
> > > K
> > >
> > > On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 1:27 PM, John Holmblad
> > >  > > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> All,
> > >>
> > >> I finally had a chance to visit an ATT store near me to check
> > out iphone
> > >> service plan pricing. In the process I learned that the iphone
> > does NOT
> > >> support tethering (via bluetooth or otherwise) of other devices
> > to it
> > >> for the purpose of Internet access for such other devices.
> > Furthermore I
> > >> learned that ATT, like Verizon Wireless, has 2 choices of data
> > plans for
> > >> those devices that DO support tethering as explained to me by
> their
> > >> salesperson. These choices are
> > >>
> > >>1. Device only Internet access
> $30
> > >>US/month
> > >>
> > >>2. #1 above + Device Tethering capability  $60
> > US/month^1
> > >>(there is a limit of 5gb/month put on this)
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> ATT also has a data only plan for users who just want to use a
> > USB or
> > >> Cardbus adapter for mobile Internet access for their PC or
> > other device.
> > >> The monthly charge for that plan, called "Data Connect" is
> > $60/month
> > >> also with a 5gb limit but with overage charges for use beyond the
> 5
> > >> gb/month.
> > >>
> > >> I should note that the $60 US/month for  pricing plan #2 above
> > from ATT
> > >> compares with a price of $44.99 US/month^2 from Verizon which
> > has the
> > >> same 5gb monthly limit (stated in its fine print), a ~$15
> > US/month price
> > >> difference in favor of Verizon Wireless vs ATT.
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >>
> > >> Best Regards,
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> John Holmblad
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Acadia Secure Networks, LLC
> > >>
> > >> * *
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> >
> > >>
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> >
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> > 
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> > 
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Re: N8xx ponderings

[hendrik]

On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 02:41:25PM -0700, lakestevensdental wrote:
> hend...@topoi.pooq.com wrote:
> > On Mon, Mar 09, 2009 at 01:15:58PM -0700, lakestevensdental wrote:
> >   
> >> * W7 requires 4 partitions, leaving only 1 partition for a dual boot
> >>   to Ubuntu or other OS.  Ubuntu currently recommends an separate
> >>   partition for swap memory, but W7 isn't going to allow it.
> >> 
> >
> > Has the partitioning system changed?  I thought that we were limited to 
> > four primary partitions, leaving *no* partitions free for dual boot.  Or 
> > else one of them could be the extended partition, which can contain 
> > *lots* of secondary partitions.
> >   
> Possibly it's changed with 1T hds taking the market?   When I installed 
> Ubuntu after W7, there were 4 W7 partitions and one free for Ubuntu.  I 
> didn't really pay attention to whether the W7s were all primary 
> partitions or not.  I do know there were no additional primary 
> partitions left after installing Ubuntu, cutting a chunk out of the 
> largest W7 partition, at least according to the Ubuntu partitioner.
> 
>   I figured with 4Gs of RAM, the need for a swap partition for Ubuntu 
> was minimized, at least for now. 
> I'm going to overwrite W7 in a couple days, which should free up a 
> couple partitions.

Before you remove w7, just to be clear, could you go superuser in
ubuntu and fdisk -l the relevant drive?  That would probably tell us 
just what is going on with the mysterious extra partition.

>  If I've got a spare partition, I suppose I could 
> then go back and tweak Ubuntu to add a swap partition.  Or reinstall it 
> from scratch.  Having only installed Ubuntu a couple weeks ago,  I 
> haven't done much with Ubuntu other than browse around a bit and check 
> if it works with all of the devices I've attached to check against W7 
> beta's poor ability to recognize drivers and stuff.  Ubuntu 8.1 did just 
> fine finding everything -- no BS M$ W& driver $ignature enforcement. 

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Re: Iphone + tethering - No Way

[John Holmblad]

Jose,

Interesting. I have to wonder though if ATT considers that a hack as 
legitimate as it might be that violates the use policy of its service 
for the iphone. There is a similar app that installs/runs on 802.11 
enabled Windows Mobile devices.


Best Regards,

 

John Holmblad

 

Acadia Secure Networks, LLC




Jose Vargas wrote:
> Read PDA.net is now available for iPhone that for around $40 turns it 
> into a wireless router.
>
> On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 4:27 PM, Jonathan Greene 
> mailto:atmasph...@atmasphere.net>> wrote:
>
> I've been using the original iPhone SIM in various devices for years
> now and I tether all kinds of mobile devices from laptops, N810,
> netbooks ... no issues. I've cleared 2Gb a few times, but 5 would be
> more like your only connection ...
>
> On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 4:40 PM, Kevin T. Neely
> mailto:ktne...@astroturfgarden.com>>
> wrote:
> > FWIW, I don't have an iphone, but I do have a $15/mo unlimited
> (which means
> > 5GB) plan from AT&T and I tether my laptop to that.
> >
> > K
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 1:27 PM, John Holmblad
> >  > wrote:
> >>
> >> All,
> >>
> >> I finally had a chance to visit an ATT store near me to check
> out iphone
> >> service plan pricing. In the process I learned that the iphone
> does NOT
> >> support tethering (via bluetooth or otherwise) of other devices
> to it
> >> for the purpose of Internet access for such other devices.
> Furthermore I
> >> learned that ATT, like Verizon Wireless, has 2 choices of data
> plans for
> >> those devices that DO support tethering as explained to me by their
> >> salesperson. These choices are
> >>
> >>1. Device only Internet access   $30
> >>US/month
> >>
> >>2. #1 above + Device Tethering capability  $60
> US/month^1
> >>(there is a limit of 5gb/month put on this)
> >>
> >>
> >> ATT also has a data only plan for users who just want to use a
> USB or
> >> Cardbus adapter for mobile Internet access for their PC or
> other device.
> >> The monthly charge for that plan, called "Data Connect" is
> $60/month
> >> also with a 5gb limit but with overage charges for use beyond the 5
> >> gb/month.
> >>
> >> I should note that the $60 US/month for  pricing plan #2 above
> from ATT
> >> compares with a price of $44.99 US/month^2 from Verizon which
> has the
> >> same 5gb monthly limit (stated in its fine print), a ~$15
> US/month price
> >> difference in favor of Verizon Wireless vs ATT.
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >> Best Regards,
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> John Holmblad
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Acadia Secure Networks, LLC
> >>
> >> * *
> >>
> >>
> >> >
> >>
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> >
>
>
>
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Re: Nokia device usage

[James Knott]

Mark wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 7:14 PM, James Knott  wrote:
>   
>> Bottom line, there are a lot of technical and usage reasons that make it
>> much harder for malware to attack Linux/Unix.
>>
>> 
> But NOT impossible, and the fact remains that the overwhelming
> majority of malware writers are either Mac or Linux fanboys and aren't
> about to attack their own pet OS or they are simply gunning for the OS
> that is installed on the overwhelming majority of PCs worldwide.
>
>   

I never claimed it was impossible.  However, how do you know the
majority of malware writers run Linux or Mac


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Re: Iphone + tethering - No Way

[Kevin T. Neely]

I did set it up last year, so I am sure my pricing is pretty good.  It's not
so good that it is the *real* unlimited data which some people still enjoy.

I get just over 100kbps, but that's because I have an N82 and it's Edge only
in the US.  When I swap my SIM to my N75, I get 400+kbps

K

On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 3:45 PM, John Holmblad <
jholmb...@acadiasecurenets.com> wrote:

> Kevin,
>
> you may have legacy pricing because it now appears from the ATT www site
> that it is $30/month for the "Data Connect" service. Do you actually get
> bit rates above 100kbps in your location? I suspect that the ATT
> service, similar to Verizon Wireless's service, will automatically
> downhift to  GPRS/Edge bit rates (on Verizon Wireless's network it is
> referred to as 1xRTT). Maybe ATT had a lower price for those geographic
> locations that were not yet upgraded to HSDPA.
>
> Best Regards,
>
>
>
> John Holmblad
>
>
>
> Acadia Secure Networks, LLC
>
> * *
>
>
> Kevin T. Neely wrote:
> > FWIW, I don't have an iphone, but I do have a $15/mo unlimited (which
> > means 5GB) plan from AT&T and I tether my laptop to that.
> >
> > K
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 1:27 PM, John Holmblad
> >  > > wrote:
> >
> > All,
> >
> > I finally had a chance to visit an ATT store near me to check out
> > iphone
> > service plan pricing. In the process I learned that the iphone
> > does NOT
> > support tethering (via bluetooth or otherwise) of other devices to it
> > for the purpose of Internet access for such other devices.
> > Furthermore I
> > learned that ATT, like Verizon Wireless, has 2 choices of data
> > plans for
> > those devices that DO support tethering as explained to me by their
> > salesperson. These choices are
> >
> >1. Device only Internet access   $30
> >US/month
> >
> >2. #1 above + Device Tethering capability  $60 US/month^1
> >(there is a limit of 5gb/month put on this)
> >
> >
> > ATT also has a data only plan for users who just want to use a USB or
> > Cardbus adapter for mobile Internet access for their PC or other
> > device.
> > The monthly charge for that plan, called "Data Connect" is $60/month
> > also with a 5gb limit but with overage charges for use beyond the 5
> > gb/month.
> >
> > I should note that the $60 US/month for  pricing plan #2 above
> > from ATT
> > compares with a price of $44.99 US/month^2 from Verizon which has the
> > same 5gb monthly limit (stated in its fine print), a ~$15 US/month
> > price
> > difference in favor of Verizon Wireless vs ATT.
> >
> > --
> >
> > Best Regards,
> >
> >
> >
> > John Holmblad
> >
> >
> >
> > Acadia Secure Networks, LLC
> >
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Re: Nokia device usage

[James Knott]

kenneth marken wrote:
>>
>> Bottom line, there are a lot of technical and usage reasons that make it
>> much harder for malware to attack Linux/Unix.
>>
>>
> the "big" problem here is that the target for said malware have
> changed...
>
> its no longer about bringing down whole systems. these days its the
> users data they are after. credit card info, codes of all kinds, and
> just about anything else.
>
> was there not a sweep of ransom attacks where a worm would archive the
> whole content of the users document dir, and encrypt the archive?
> leaving a message to send x amount of money to some account for the
> password?
>
> under these situations, read access is more then enough access, most
> of the time.
>
> the only option i can see for the user then is to run every program he
> tries to make use of online, inside some kind of chroot can. but even
> thats not perfect.
>
> basically, the only really safe option is to yank that plug, and use
> only home-coded apps...

Again, it's harder.  In Outlook, for example, a virus attached to an
email could run as soon as the message was read, without the user having
to do anything.  For a virus to run in Linux, the user would have to:
1) detach the file
2) make it executable
3) manually run it

In short, it won't run without the user taking 3 deliberate steps to run it.

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Re: 3G + iphone - not so fast

[Peter Bart]

On Tue, 2009-03-10 at 22:11 +, Matt Emson wrote:
> HSDPA (3.5G)? Also, was this comparing 3G to EVDO? In the UK, all the  
> 3G that O2 provides is HSDPA and it is blazingly fast.
> 
> No offence to the people in the States, but your GSM network is in the  
> stone age. I'd def go for EVDO if I was in the States.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone

None taken. Our pricing structure on the other hand seems to be quite
current and very related to being shaken down. I still don't get the
handset only data plans vs the tethering plans. Isn't data just data, no
matter where it's sent from? Of course if I tether I am not required to
go through my carriers portal. I'm still not coughing up another $60 on
top of my voice plan. I'd still like to figure out a way to use my
handset to dial my included dialup internet access.

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Re: Nokia device usage

[John Holmblad]

Jean. Christian,

yes I do while at the same time realizing that I could be wrong on this. 

Depending upon how Nokia product management intends to position the G4 
IT product (eg is it going to be a direct substitute for the iphone with 
additional superior features like tethering support and high quality 
video that the iphone does not have/support) will determine what 
hardware and software goes into the device.

As Nokia and the other device designers fully understand, device 
physical dimensions are  a key constraint in mobile device design. Here, 
for example, is the url to an Adobe Acrobat .pdf of a powerpoint 
presentation from a company that specializes in analytical  "teardowns" 
of devices, especially mobile ones and toward the end there is a section 
that discusses the technology in the iphone:


http://www.smta.org/files/CTEA_High_Density_Pkg_Trends-Carey-Portelligent.pdf

You can see,  from viewing the iphone PCB discussed on pp 13-17 of that 
presentation. that, in addition to having separate power amps for each 
of 3 frequency band groupings (it is a quad band device). the device 
also has a Multi-chip package (MCP) to handle both a GSM/EDGE chip as 
well as a WCDMA chip needed for 3g baseband processing.  I could foresee 
that another designer, with an application that did not require 2G 
"backward compatibility", might :design out:   the 2G chip ( "hold the 
2g" if you will) in order to save space and power in the design. This, 
however, would make the device un-useable in a network that was not 100% 
3G/UMTS, UNLESS the device was being used ONLY for non-voice data access 
and not for "traditional" voice.


The point here is that given the constraints of packaging, weight, power 
consumption and intend use (is it primarily a non-voice data device or 
is it mostly  a voice device with the need for some non-voice data 
capability?), the product designer will have to make design tradeoffs.

Of course with each "turn" of Moores Law, every 18 months or so, the 
technology constraints are relaxed by that proverbial factor of 2 but 
somehow it does seem that the expectations for the intended use (the 
product requirements if you will)  increase by a like amount to absorb 
whatever performance/size/cost/power consumption benefits accrue from  
the corresponding "turn" of Moores Law.

Best Regards,

John Holmblad

Acadia Secure Networks, LLC

* *



Jean-Christian de Rivaz wrote:
> John Holmblad a écrit :
>> Jean-Christian,
>>
>> the term "3g radio" is a fairly broad term. The key is what software 
>> is going to be in the new G4 IT above the radio/physical layer.  It 
>> would make sense, especially if Nokia decides that the G4 IT is going 
>> to go after the market served by the iphone, to  give the G4 IT, full 
>> 2G/3G voice functionality in addition to  HSDPA. The rub here with 
>> such a decision may be the impact on the product cost of having to 
>> use a presumably more expensive radio of the kind that are contained 
>> in 2G/3G dual mode handsets. I would think that for a product 
>> released in 2009 2G support would still be essential.
> [...]
>
> John,
>
> It seem that you think that there exists 3G chip that make only HSPA, 
> without voice, and/or without 2G compatibility. You can be right, but 
> I have a big doubt on that.
>
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Re: Iphone + tethering - No Way

[John Holmblad]

Kevin,

you may have legacy pricing because it now appears from the ATT www site 
that it is $30/month for the "Data Connect" service. Do you actually get 
bit rates above 100kbps in your location? I suspect that the ATT 
service, similar to Verizon Wireless's service, will automatically 
downhift to  GPRS/Edge bit rates (on Verizon Wireless's network it is 
referred to as 1xRTT). Maybe ATT had a lower price for those geographic 
locations that were not yet upgraded to HSDPA.

Best Regards,

 

John Holmblad

 

Acadia Secure Networks, LLC

* *


Kevin T. Neely wrote:
> FWIW, I don't have an iphone, but I do have a $15/mo unlimited (which 
> means 5GB) plan from AT&T and I tether my laptop to that.
>
> K
>
> On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 1:27 PM, John Holmblad 
>  > wrote:
>
> All,
>
> I finally had a chance to visit an ATT store near me to check out
> iphone
> service plan pricing. In the process I learned that the iphone
> does NOT
> support tethering (via bluetooth or otherwise) of other devices to it
> for the purpose of Internet access for such other devices.
> Furthermore I
> learned that ATT, like Verizon Wireless, has 2 choices of data
> plans for
> those devices that DO support tethering as explained to me by their
> salesperson. These choices are
>
>1. Device only Internet access   $30
>US/month
>
>2. #1 above + Device Tethering capability  $60 US/month^1
>(there is a limit of 5gb/month put on this)
>
>
> ATT also has a data only plan for users who just want to use a USB or
> Cardbus adapter for mobile Internet access for their PC or other
> device.
> The monthly charge for that plan, called "Data Connect" is $60/month
> also with a 5gb limit but with overage charges for use beyond the 5
> gb/month.
>
> I should note that the $60 US/month for  pricing plan #2 above
> from ATT
> compares with a price of $44.99 US/month^2 from Verizon which has the
> same 5gb monthly limit (stated in its fine print), a ~$15 US/month
> price
> difference in favor of Verizon Wireless vs ATT.
>
> --
>
> Best Regards,
>
>
>
> John Holmblad
>
>
>
> Acadia Secure Networks, LLC
>
> * *
>
>
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Re: 3G + iphone - not so fast

[Matt Emson]

HSDPA (3.5G)? Also, was this comparing 3G to EVDO? In the UK, all the  
3G that O2 provides is HSDPA and it is blazingly fast.

No offence to the people in the States, but your GSM network is in the  
stone age. I'd def go for EVDO if I was in the States.

Sent from my iPhone

On 10 Mar 2009, at 19:48, John Holmblad  
 wrote:

> All,
>
> maybe some of you have seen this already. but today I came across the
> following utube video which attempts to separate fact from fiction  
> with
> respect to ATT's 3g service when used with the Iphone
>
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oaN1Nz1Dyls&eurl=http://www.jasonball.com/techbytes/2008/09/would-the-real-iphone-please-stand-up.html&feature=player_embedded
>
>
> According to the video's creator, the unscientific measurement of
> performance was done in an area of Boston, Ma that has a strong 3g  
> signal.
>
>
> -- 
>
> Best Regards,
>
>
>
> John Holmblad
>
>
>
> Acadia Secure Networks, LLC
>
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>
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Re: Iphone + tethering - No Way

[Jose Vargas]

Read PDA.net is now available for iPhone that for around $40 turns it into a
wireless router.

On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 4:27 PM, Jonathan Greene
wrote:

> I've been using the original iPhone SIM in various devices for years
> now and I tether all kinds of mobile devices from laptops, N810,
> netbooks ... no issues. I've cleared 2Gb a few times, but 5 would be
> more like your only connection ...
>
> On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 4:40 PM, Kevin T. Neely
>  wrote:
> > FWIW, I don't have an iphone, but I do have a $15/mo unlimited (which
> means
> > 5GB) plan from AT&T and I tether my laptop to that.
> >
> > K
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 1:27 PM, John Holmblad
> >  wrote:
> >>
> >> All,
> >>
> >> I finally had a chance to visit an ATT store near me to check out iphone
> >> service plan pricing. In the process I learned that the iphone does NOT
> >> support tethering (via bluetooth or otherwise) of other devices to it
> >> for the purpose of Internet access for such other devices. Furthermore I
> >> learned that ATT, like Verizon Wireless, has 2 choices of data plans for
> >> those devices that DO support tethering as explained to me by their
> >> salesperson. These choices are
> >>
> >>1. Device only Internet access   $30
> >>US/month
> >>
> >>2. #1 above + Device Tethering capability  $60 US/month^1
> >>(there is a limit of 5gb/month put on this)
> >>
> >>
> >> ATT also has a data only plan for users who just want to use a USB or
> >> Cardbus adapter for mobile Internet access for their PC or other device.
> >> The monthly charge for that plan, called "Data Connect" is $60/month
> >> also with a 5gb limit but with overage charges for use beyond the 5
> >> gb/month.
> >>
> >> I should note that the $60 US/month for  pricing plan #2 above from ATT
> >> compares with a price of $44.99 US/month^2 from Verizon which has the
> >> same 5gb monthly limit (stated in its fine print), a ~$15 US/month price
> >> difference in favor of Verizon Wireless vs ATT.
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >> Best Regards,
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> John Holmblad
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Acadia Secure Networks, LLC
> >>
> >> * *
> >>
> >>
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Re: videos on n810

[lakestevensdental]

Olavo Junior wrote:
> hi, 
>
>   which video format is better for n810 (avi, mpg, ...) ? I have a
> N95, but our videos (mpg4) don't play in n810, sound ok, but images is
> too slow
>
>   How to I convert .mp4 to  with linux? 
>   
As others have noted, there's an encoder available for mp4s. 

Handbrake works for unprotected DVDs, which, in my experience, provides 
a wide variety of options for changing resolution and formats.  I think 
there's both Linux and Windows versions available.  Processing can take 
a long time (hours) so find a fast box to do that work if possible. 
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Re: N8xx ponderings

[lakestevensdental]

hend...@topoi.pooq.com wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 09, 2009 at 01:15:58PM -0700, lakestevensdental wrote:
>   
>> * W7 requires 4 partitions, leaving only 1 partition for a dual boot
>>   to Ubuntu or other OS.  Ubuntu currently recommends an separate
>>   partition for swap memory, but W7 isn't going to allow it.
>> 
>
> Has the partitioning system changed?  I thought that we were limited to 
> four primary partitions, leaving *no* partitions free for dual boot.  Or 
> else one of them could be the extended partition, which can contain 
> *lots* of secondary partitions.
>   
Possibly it's changed with 1T hds taking the market?   When I installed 
Ubuntu after W7, there were 4 W7 partitions and one free for Ubuntu.  I 
didn't really pay attention to whether the W7s were all primary 
partitions or not.  I do know there were no additional primary 
partitions left after installing Ubuntu, cutting a chunk out of the 
largest W7 partition, at least according to the Ubuntu partitioner.

  I figured with 4Gs of RAM, the need for a swap partition for Ubuntu 
was minimized, at least for now. 
I'm going to overwrite W7 in a couple days, which should free up a 
couple partitions.  If I've got a spare partition, I suppose I could 
then go back and tweak Ubuntu to add a swap partition.  Or reinstall it 
from scratch.  Having only installed Ubuntu a couple weeks ago,  I 
haven't done much with Ubuntu other than browse around a bit and check 
if it works with all of the devices I've attached to check against W7 
beta's poor ability to recognize drivers and stuff.  Ubuntu 8.1 did just 
fine finding everything -- no BS M$ W& driver $ignature enforcement. 

  FYI, on another thread drift -- when I run W7s performance checker, 
the slowest part of the two new boxes I installed are the hard drives.   
One came out as a 5.5, the other as a 3.0.  Both SATAs supposedly have 
similar specs.  It's possible the problem could be related to W7 SATA 
driver BS, since I wasn't able to load the Shuttle Vista MB drivers from 
the Shuttle MB CD.  Which also prevented me from accessing the LAN port 
to look for updates.

  Fed up with W7 on my brand new Shuttle, I overwrote W7 with XPPro with 
PC_BSD installed as intermediate step to check device operations in case 
MS fooled around with me in XPPro.  BSD's partition manager also allowed 
me to wipe out the four W7 partitions.  Both XPPro and BSD installed and 
worked fine.  

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Re: Iphone + tethering - No Way

[Jonathan Greene]

I've been using the original iPhone SIM in various devices for years
now and I tether all kinds of mobile devices from laptops, N810,
netbooks ... no issues. I've cleared 2Gb a few times, but 5 would be
more like your only connection ...

On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 4:40 PM, Kevin T. Neely
 wrote:
> FWIW, I don't have an iphone, but I do have a $15/mo unlimited (which means
> 5GB) plan from AT&T and I tether my laptop to that.
>
> K
>
> On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 1:27 PM, John Holmblad
>  wrote:
>>
>> All,
>>
>> I finally had a chance to visit an ATT store near me to check out iphone
>> service plan pricing. In the process I learned that the iphone does NOT
>> support tethering (via bluetooth or otherwise) of other devices to it
>> for the purpose of Internet access for such other devices. Furthermore I
>> learned that ATT, like Verizon Wireless, has 2 choices of data plans for
>> those devices that DO support tethering as explained to me by their
>> salesperson. These choices are
>>
>>    1. Device only Internet access                               $30
>>    US/month
>>
>>    2. #1 above + Device Tethering capability          $60 US/month^1
>>    (there is a limit of 5gb/month put on this)
>>
>>
>> ATT also has a data only plan for users who just want to use a USB or
>> Cardbus adapter for mobile Internet access for their PC or other device.
>> The monthly charge for that plan, called "Data Connect" is $60/month
>> also with a 5gb limit but with overage charges for use beyond the 5
>> gb/month.
>>
>> I should note that the $60 US/month for  pricing plan #2 above from ATT
>> compares with a price of $44.99 US/month^2 from Verizon which has the
>> same 5gb monthly limit (stated in its fine print), a ~$15 US/month price
>> difference in favor of Verizon Wireless vs ATT.
>>
>> --
>>
>> Best Regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> John Holmblad
>>
>>
>>
>> Acadia Secure Networks, LLC
>>
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>>
>>
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Re: Iphone + tethering - No Way

[Kevin T. Neely]

FWIW, I don't have an iphone, but I do have a $15/mo unlimited (which means
5GB) plan from AT&T and I tether my laptop to that.

K

On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 1:27 PM, John Holmblad <
jholmb...@acadiasecurenets.com> wrote:

> All,
>
> I finally had a chance to visit an ATT store near me to check out iphone
> service plan pricing. In the process I learned that the iphone does NOT
> support tethering (via bluetooth or otherwise) of other devices to it
> for the purpose of Internet access for such other devices. Furthermore I
> learned that ATT, like Verizon Wireless, has 2 choices of data plans for
> those devices that DO support tethering as explained to me by their
> salesperson. These choices are
>
>1. Device only Internet access   $30
>US/month
>
>2. #1 above + Device Tethering capability  $60 US/month^1
>(there is a limit of 5gb/month put on this)
>
>
> ATT also has a data only plan for users who just want to use a USB or
> Cardbus adapter for mobile Internet access for their PC or other device.
> The monthly charge for that plan, called "Data Connect" is $60/month
> also with a 5gb limit but with overage charges for use beyond the 5
> gb/month.
>
> I should note that the $60 US/month for  pricing plan #2 above from ATT
> compares with a price of $44.99 US/month^2 from Verizon which has the
> same 5gb monthly limit (stated in its fine print), a ~$15 US/month price
> difference in favor of Verizon Wireless vs ATT.
>
> --
>
> Best Regards,
>
>
>
> John Holmblad
>
>
>
> Acadia Secure Networks, LLC
>
> * *
>
>
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Iphone + tethering - No Way

[John Holmblad]

All,

I finally had a chance to visit an ATT store near me to check out iphone 
service plan pricing. In the process I learned that the iphone does NOT 
support tethering (via bluetooth or otherwise) of other devices to it 
for the purpose of Internet access for such other devices. Furthermore I 
learned that ATT, like Verizon Wireless, has 2 choices of data plans for 
those devices that DO support tethering as explained to me by their 
salesperson. These choices are

1. Device only Internet access   $30
US/month

2. #1 above + Device Tethering capability  $60 US/month^1  
(there is a limit of 5gb/month put on this)


ATT also has a data only plan for users who just want to use a USB or 
Cardbus adapter for mobile Internet access for their PC or other device. 
The monthly charge for that plan, called "Data Connect" is $60/month 
also with a 5gb limit but with overage charges for use beyond the 5 
gb/month.

I should note that the $60 US/month for  pricing plan #2 above from ATT 
compares with a price of $44.99 US/month^2 from Verizon which has the 
same 5gb monthly limit (stated in its fine print), a ~$15 US/month price 
difference in favor of Verizon Wireless vs ATT.

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3G + iphone - not so fast

[John Holmblad]

All,

maybe some of you have seen this already. but today I came across the 
following utube video which attempts to separate fact from fiction with 
respect to ATT's 3g service when used with the Iphone


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oaN1Nz1Dyls&eurl=http://www.jasonball.com/techbytes/2008/09/would-the-real-iphone-please-stand-up.html&feature=player_embedded


According to the video's creator, the unscientific measurement of 
performance was done in an area of Boston, Ma that has a strong 3g signal.


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Re: videos on n810

[Olavo Junior]

On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 01:01:48PM -0600, Mark wrote:
> >
> >        which video format is better for n810 (avi, mpg, ...) ? I have a
> > N95, but our videos (mpg4) don't play in n810, sound ok, but images is
> > too slow
> >
> >        How to I convert .mp4 to  with linux?
> >
> >
> > thx
> >
> 
> It's not the format so much as the resolution. See quoted previous
> post below for more info on two methods; mencoder and tablet-encode.
> 
> Mark
> 
> On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 8:24 PM, Ognen Duzlevski  >
> > Andrew Daviel wrote:
> >
> >> I think I used
> >> mencoder dvd://5 -oac twolame -twolameopts br=64 -ovc lavc -lavcopts
> >> vcodec=mpeg4:aspect=4/3:vbitrate=512 -vf scale=480:288 -idx -ffourcc
> >> DIVX -quiet -o jackjack2.avi
> >
> > This actually worked. Thank you very much.
> 
> If you forgive the plug, with tablet-encode[1] that'd be:
> 
>tablet-encode -p best dvd: Incredibles.avi

I try it, but doesn't work, look:

lala$ du -ms 1234567890.mp4 
168 1234567890.mp4

lala$ tablet-encode -p best 1234567890.mp4 foo.avi
...
...
Video stream: 2573.281 kbit/s  (321660 B/s)  size: 32938 bytes  0.102
secs  2442 frames
Audio stream:  191.993 kbit/s  (23999 B/s)  size: 15046 bytes  0.627
secs

lala$ du -ms foo.avi 
1   foo.avi

Any idea?


> 
> (Or you could use the basic GUI to the same effect)
> 
> It's got a feature I'm quite proud of (simple, really): if you just
> specify "dvd://", it'll find the longest title and rip that.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Andrew
> 
> [1] http://mediautils.garage.maemo.org/tablet-encode.html
> 
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Re: videos on n810

[Felipe Contreras]

On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 8:54 PM, Olavo Junior  wrote:
> hi,
>
>        which video format is better for n810 (avi, mpg, ...) ? I have a
> N95, but our videos (mpg4) don't play in n810, sound ok, but images is
> too slow
>
>        How to I convert .mp4 to  with linux?

All that is explained here:
http://maemo.org/development/documentation/manuals/3-x/transcoding_how-to/

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Re: videos on n810

[Mark]

On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 12:54 PM, Olavo Junior  wrote:
> hi,
>
>        which video format is better for n810 (avi, mpg, ...) ? I have a
> N95, but our videos (mpg4) don't play in n810, sound ok, but images is
> too slow
>
>        How to I convert .mp4 to  with linux?
>
>
> thx
>

It's not the format so much as the resolution. See quoted previous
post below for more info on two methods; mencoder and tablet-encode.

Mark

On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 8:24 PM, Ognen Duzlevski  >
> Andrew Daviel wrote:
>
>> I think I used
>> mencoder dvd://5 -oac twolame -twolameopts br=64 -ovc lavc -lavcopts
>> vcodec=mpeg4:aspect=4/3:vbitrate=512 -vf scale=480:288 -idx -ffourcc
>> DIVX -quiet -o jackjack2.avi
>
> This actually worked. Thank you very much.

If you forgive the plug, with tablet-encode[1] that'd be:

   tablet-encode -p best dvd: Incredibles.avi

(Or you could use the basic GUI to the same effect)

It's got a feature I'm quite proud of (simple, really): if you just
specify "dvd://", it'll find the longest title and rip that.

Cheers,

Andrew

[1] http://mediautils.garage.maemo.org/tablet-encode.html

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videos on n810

[Olavo Junior]

hi, 

which video format is better for n810 (avi, mpg, ...) ? I have a
N95, but our videos (mpg4) don't play in n810, sound ok, but images is
too slow

How to I convert .mp4 to  with linux? 


thx

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Re: Nokia device usage

[Mark]

On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 9:21 AM, kenneth marken  wrote:
>
> basically, the only really safe option is to yank that plug, and use
> only home-coded apps...

Provided you *never* make any mistakes or overlook any bugs... ;-)

Mark
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Re: Nokia device usage

[Mark]

On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 7:14 PM, James Knott  wrote:
> Bottom line, there are a lot of technical and usage reasons that make it
> much harder for malware to attack Linux/Unix.
>
But NOT impossible, and the fact remains that the overwhelming
majority of malware writers are either Mac or Linux fanboys and aren't
about to attack their own pet OS or they are simply gunning for the OS
that is installed on the overwhelming majority of PCs worldwide.

Mark
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Re: N8xx ponderings

[Mark]

On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 8:05 AM, Matt Emson  wrote:
> Mark wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 4:20 PM, kenneth marken 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> i wish i could point you to the law text, but sadly its only in
>>> norwegian...
>>>
>>>
>>
>> To quote Dickens, "the law is an ass".
>
> Remember that Dickens was English and in British English, "Ass" is a kind of
> Donkey, where as "arse" is you "back-side", posteria, butt or whatever you
> want to call it. An Ass is a stubborn animal, which is what he was alluding
> to. (i.e. what Dickens said doesn't mean the same as the modern US English
> reading of that statement...)
>

I knew that, but it's pretty much irrelevant as to the meaning of the
statement. The point is that the law has little to do with morality or
justice.

Mark
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Re: Nokia device usage

[kenneth marken]

James Knott wrote:
> Mark wrote:
>> And the only reason that Linux and Macs are so relatively safe from
>> viruses and worms is because they aren't targeted, not because they
>> are fundamentally more secure.
>>
>>   
> Well, considering that most web sites run Apache on Linux or Unix, I'm
> not so sure about that.  And if you investigate the way Windows and
> Linux/Unix are designed, I'm certain you're wrong.  You might want to
> read up on how IE became so tightly coupled with the OS.  You can start
> with the Netscape vs Microsoft trial, where MS claimed IE could not be
> removed, because it was part of the OS.  At that time it wasn't, but
> next version of Windows (W98 IIRC) it was and as a result, Windows has
> been wide open to attack via IE.  Then you can look at how difficult it
> is for a virus to propagate in Linux/Unix because a user cannot write to
> files outside his authorized areas etc.  And, of course, Unix was
> designed from the ground up to be multiuser and had appropriate
> protection mechansims built in.  Windows was built on top of single user
> DOS and then tried to have all the holes fixed.
> 
> Bottom line, there are a lot of technical and usage reasons that make it
> much harder for malware to attack Linux/Unix.
> 
> 
the "big" problem here is that the target for said malware have changed...

its no longer about bringing down whole systems. these days its the 
users data they are after. credit card info, codes of all kinds, and 
just about anything else.

was there not a sweep of ransom attacks where a worm would archive the 
whole content of the users document dir, and encrypt the archive? 
leaving a message to send x amount of money to some account for the 
password?

under these situations, read access is more then enough access, most of 
the time.

the only option i can see for the user then is to run every program he 
tries to make use of online, inside some kind of chroot can. but even 
thats not perfect.

basically, the only really safe option is to yank that plug, and use 
only home-coded apps...
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Re: N8xx ponderings

[Matt Emson]

Mark wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 4:20 PM, kenneth marken  wrote:
>   
>> i wish i could point you to the law text, but sadly its only in norwegian...
>>
>> 
>
> To quote Dickens, "the law is an ass". 
Remember that Dickens was English and in British English, "Ass" is a 
kind of Donkey, where as "arse" is you "back-side", posteria, butt or 
whatever you want to call it. An Ass is a stubborn animal, which is what 
he was alluding to. (i.e. what Dickens said doesn't mean the same as the 
modern US English reading of that statement...)
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Re: N8xx ponderings

[hendrik]

On Mon, Mar 09, 2009 at 01:15:58PM -0700, lakestevensdental wrote:
> 
> * W7 requires 4 partitions, leaving only 1 partition for a dual boot
>   to Ubuntu or other OS.  Ubuntu currently recommends an separate
>   partition for swap memory, but W7 isn't going to allow it.

Has the partitioning system changed?  I thought that we were limited to 
four primary partitions, leaving *no* partitions free for dual boot.  Or 
else one of them could be the extended partition, which can contain 
*lots* of secondary partitions.

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Re: Nokia device usage

[Alberto Garcia]

On Mon, Mar 09, 2009 at 03:56:48PM -0600, Mark wrote:

> And the only reason that Linux and Macs are so relatively safe from
> viruses and worms is because they aren't targeted, not because they
> are fundamentally more secure.

This would make sense if creating a virus required a significant
effort...

Berto
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