RE: Maemo Flasher-3.5 Tool Beta for Fremantle and Diablo released

2009-07-01 Thread Jarmo.Tikka
Hi, 

-Original Message-
From: ext Ryan Abel [mailto:rabe...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 01 July, 2009 03:05
Diablo released

On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 8:41 AM, jarmo.ti...@nokia.com wrote:
 The Maemo Eclipse Integration 2nd Edition project has 
released installation packages for Maemo Flasher-3.5 Tool Beta 
for Linuxes, Mac OS X and Windows. Maemo Flasher-3.5 tool 
supports flashing of N8x0 Diablo devices and coming Fremantle devices.


One step forward and two steps back.

Happy to see that you considered this Beta release to be at least one step 
forward (before ending up being one step backward :)


No PPC binary, and the installer will happily chug right along 
without telling users that they're installing something they 
can't even use.

Only x86 and 32-bit support with this beta release. Could you explain in more 
detailed your installation problems. E.g. do you try to install Windows XP or 
Windows Vista or Mac OS X 10.x or Debian Linux or some other Linux or ...

Or are you trying to install Mac flasher-3.5 to PPC Mac? I do not Mac myself 
well enoug to say if architecture can be defined to the Mac installation 
package so that you will get some sensible error message if you try to install 
wrong architecture binary. 

Cheers,
//Jarmo
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RE: Maemo Flasher-3.5 Tool Beta for Fremantle and Diablo released

2009-07-01 Thread Jarmo.Tikka
Hi,

From: ext Andre Klapper [mailto:aklap...@openismus.com] 
your email and the download page do not mention any architectures.
Can you please add that information to the download page?

We just updated Flasher-3.5 download page and readme file here 
http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/maemo-dev-env-downloads.php

With binary architecture information flasher-3.5 beta installation packages 
support.

Thanks about feedback so far.

I have updated my flasher backlog with request to have also PPC architecture 
supported for Mac OS X. If we find PPC Mac somewhere I think this can be done 
easily for final release.

I have not tested Windows version in Windows 7 RC yet. If somebody has latest 
Win7 RC installed I would be interested are there some problems?

Cheers,
//Jarmo
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Re: Maemo Flasher-3.5 Tool Beta for Fremantle and Diablo released

2009-07-01 Thread gary liquid
is it possible to do tablet-tablet flashing?

(serious question)

most of us now have more than one device and since not all of us have linux
or windows available (hiya GA), having a native solution would be a possible
quicker workaround

gary

On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 1:36 PM, Ryan Abel rabe...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 2:43 AM, jarmo.ti...@nokia.com wrote:

 One step forward and two steps back.
 
  Happy to see that you considered this Beta release to be at least one
 step forward (before ending up being one step backward :)
 

 It's hardly every anything else with Nokia. :(

 
 No PPC binary, and the installer will happily chug right along
 without telling users that they're installing something they
 can't even use.
 
  Only x86 and 32-bit support with this beta release. Could you explain in
 more detailed your installation problems. E.g. do you try to install Windows
 XP or Windows Vista or Mac OS X 10.x or Debian Linux or some other Linux or
 ...
 

 I don't use Windows, and, by and large, I don't use Linux.

  Or are you trying to install Mac flasher-3.5 to PPC Mac? I do not Mac
 myself well enoug to say if architecture can be defined to the Mac
 installation package so that you will get some sensible error message if you
 try to install wrong architecture binary.
 

 Yes, because PPC OS X is basically the only thing I have access to on
 a regular basis. Yes, you can tell the installer that it should check
 the architecture. No, you shouldn't be doing that because you should
 be compiling a PPC binary.
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RE: Maemo Flasher-3.5 Tool Beta for Fremantle and Diablo released

2009-07-01 Thread Jarmo.Tikka
Hi,

I found something to comment from this last email :). 

access to on a regular basis. Yes, you can tell the installer 
that it should check the architecture. No, you shouldn't be 

If same installer can be used to install both x86 and PCC binaries depending on 
which PC you run installation package that would be great. Anyhow I think we 
can make at least separate PCC installation package when we will have PCC Mac 
to make it.

that it should check the architecture. No, you shouldn't be 
doing that because you should be compiling a PPC binary.

Nobody has told me if PCC binary can be build on x86 Mac. If not it will take 
some time to make PCC version of flasher-3.5 even when it is just rebuilding 
(at least in theory it should be just rebuilding task).

Cheers,
//Jarmo

-Original Message-
From: ext Ryan Abel [mailto:rabe...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 01 July, 2009 15:37
To: Tikka Jarmo (Nokia-D/Helsinki)
Cc: maemo-develop...@maemo.org; maemo-users@maemo.org
Subject: Re: Maemo Flasher-3.5 Tool Beta for Fremantle and 
Diablo released

On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 2:43 AM, jarmo.ti...@nokia.com wrote:

One step forward and two steps back.

 Happy to see that you considered this Beta release to be at 
least one 
 step forward (before ending up being one step backward :)


It's hardly every anything else with Nokia. :(


No PPC binary, and the installer will happily chug right 
along without 
telling users that they're installing something they can't even use.

 Only x86 and 32-bit support with this beta release. Could 
you explain in more detailed your installation problems. E.g. 
do you try to install Windows XP or Windows Vista or Mac OS X 
10.x or Debian Linux or some other Linux or ...


I don't use Windows, and, by and large, I don't use Linux.

 Or are you trying to install Mac flasher-3.5 to PPC Mac? I 
do not Mac myself well enoug to say if architecture can be 
defined to the Mac installation package so that you will get 
some sensible error message if you try to install wrong 
architecture binary.


Yes, because PPC OS X is basically the only thing I have 
access to on a regular basis. Yes, you can tell the installer 
that it should check the architecture. No, you shouldn't be 
doing that because you should be compiling a PPC binary.

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RE: Maemo Flasher-3.5 Tool Beta for Fremantle and Diablo released

2009-07-01 Thread Jarmo.Tikka
Hi,

[jot] some answers below...

From: ext gary liquid [mailto:liq...@gmail.com]
Sent: 01 July, 2009 15:58
To: Ryan Abel
Cc: Tikka Jarmo (Nokia-D/Helsinki); maemo-users@maemo.org; 
maemo-develop...@maemo.org
Subject: Re: Maemo Flasher-3.5 Tool Beta for Fremantle and Diablo released

is it possible to do tablet-tablet flashing?

(serious question)

[jot]  I think it is not possible because Tablet USB port drivers do not 
support it but I am not sure. What is possible is to use 
/usr/sbin/fiasco_flasher available from Tablet to flash images from mmc card.

most of us now have more than one device and since not all of us have linux or 
windows available (hiya GA), having a native solution would be a possible 
quicker workaround

[jot] The easies way to do flashing we be from PC but maybe it would be enough 
for you to flash from inside Tablet. BTW no quarantine this will work as I have 
not tested this myself.

Cheers,
//Jarmo

gary

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Re: replacement battery for N810

2009-07-01 Thread Peter Flynn
Kevin T. Neely wrote:
 Nokia uses the same charger for all its batteries, so I'm sure that 
 wouldn't be a problem.

But you can get several differently-rated Nokia chargers with the same 
micro-plug (like the N800) intended for other devices like phones. So 
they'll fit, but the weaker (phone) ones won't give the heavier devices 
(N800) the full charge -- as I discovered to my cost when we went away 
last year and I forgot my N800 charger and couldn't buy one anywhere and 
had to rely on my daughter's phone charger twice a day...

///Peter
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Re: replacement battery for N810

2009-07-01 Thread Kevin T. Neely
Not sure that's true.  I use the same charger for all my devices, and my E63
battery is definitely bigger than the N800.  Both are 3.7V.  N800 1300mAh,
E63 1500mAh.  Just wish they had the leads in the same place so I could swap
them back and forth.

I would think any charger from a Nokia smartphone would be fine on the
tablets.  Of course, I have no empirical evidence for any of this.  :)

K

On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 1:28 PM, Peter Flynn peter.fl...@mars.ucc.ie wrote:

 Kevin T. Neely wrote:
  Nokia uses the same charger for all its batteries, so I'm sure that
  wouldn't be a problem.

 But you can get several differently-rated Nokia chargers with the same
 micro-plug (like the N800) intended for other devices like phones. So
 they'll fit, but the weaker (phone) ones won't give the heavier devices
 (N800) the full charge -- as I discovered to my cost when we went away
 last year and I forgot my N800 charger and couldn't buy one anywhere and
 had to rely on my daughter's phone charger twice a day...

 ///Peter
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