Re: Fwd: N900 is hot when charged & sucks battery life after updatingto PR1.2
On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 11:42 AM, Aldon Hynes wrote: > How hot is it? > > I've started running Kernel Power which I really like. > http://wiki.maemo.org/Kernel_Power > > Mostly because it gives me the ability to use IPv6. However, one of the > other features it provides is information about the battery. > > Specifically, if you run > modprobe bq27x00_battery > it will give you access to data about the battery, including capacity, > voltage_now, current_now and temp > > It seems like this might be useful in understanding what is going on with > the battery, if it has been damaged, etc. > > For example, right now, my battery is reporting: > > POWER_SUPPLY_VOLTAGE_NOW=3979 > POWER_SUPPLY_CURRENT_NOW=789 > POWER_SUPPLY_CAPACITY=83 > POWER_SUPPLY_TEMP=25 > > Yesterday, when I had drained it, the POWER_SUPPLY_TEMP climbed to 40. > > I'm curious about what other people are seeing for these numbers, as well as > what the acceptable ranges should be. > > Anyone else running Kernel_Power and care to report on the status of their > batteries? # cat /sys/class/power_supply/bq27200-0/capacity 92 # cat /sys/class/power_supply/bq27200-0/voltage_now 4026 # cat /sys/class/power_supply/bq27200-0/current_now 50 # cat /sys/class/power_supply/bq27200-0/temp 32 ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
RE: Fwd: N900 is hot when charged & sucks battery life after updatingto PR1.2
How hot is it? I've started running Kernel Power which I really like. http://wiki.maemo.org/Kernel_Power Mostly because it gives me the ability to use IPv6. However, one of the other features it provides is information about the battery. Specifically, if you run modprobe bq27x00_battery it will give you access to data about the battery, including capacity, voltage_now, current_now and temp It seems like this might be useful in understanding what is going on with the battery, if it has been damaged, etc. For example, right now, my battery is reporting: POWER_SUPPLY_VOLTAGE_NOW=3979 POWER_SUPPLY_CURRENT_NOW=789 POWER_SUPPLY_CAPACITY=83 POWER_SUPPLY_TEMP=25 Yesterday, when I had drained it, the POWER_SUPPLY_TEMP climbed to 40. I'm curious about what other people are seeing for these numbers, as well as what the acceptable ranges should be. Anyone else running Kernel_Power and care to report on the status of their batteries? Aldon > 2010/6/7 Kimmo Hämäläinen > On Sun, 2010-06-06 at 14:10 +0200, ext khalid khan wrote: > > In my N900 there is only two widget running on desktop AP > News & > > Foreca Weather with other shortcuts of contact icons & games > icon but > > do this eat up so much of battery that when it's been > charged for 2 - > > 3 hrs in every 7 or 11 hrs a day. > > > Could you check with "top" command in "X Terminal" if some > process has a > big number in the "%CPU" column? There has been some reports > about > Twitter applet before... > > -Kimmo > > > > > > I know if media (audio & video) is running it eat more > battery life. > > But i have tried not using it & always analyse with Battery > Eye App. > > > > I use normally emails (not mre than 10-20 emails, on > weekends) use to > > play some simple games,listen music & watch some > videos ,talk on gtalk > > voice & video.Browse Internet. > > > > I charge using normal USB Adapter & Battery gets full in 2-3 > hrs. > > > > Also notice that the pin converter provided in the nokia box > if > > charged through that it charges but once unplugged the > battery is > > drained. If charged with normal USB Adapter works fine & > with USB > > connected to laptop. > > > > What would be the real reason as i purchased N900 only 4 > months back > > so i dont think it should be problem with battery. > > > > Can over charging cause battery drain in 7-11 hrs? Please > let me > > know. > > > > Thanks > > Khalid > > -- > > Sent from my Nokia N900 using Nokia Messaging ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Maemo/Nokia n900
Thanks Andre. Sorry for cross posting. I wasn't sure where to ask this question. Thanks, flukebox On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 9:08 PM, Andre Klapper wrote: > Hi, > > Am Dienstag, den 08.06.2010, 20:50 +0530 schrieb fluke box: > >Are N900 propriety libraries API available for developers ? > > If Yes, where can i find the documentation for the same ? > > Either http://library.maemodocs.nokia.com/fremantle/index.jsp or > http://maemo.org/api_refs/5.0/5.0-final/ > > andre > > (PS: Please don't cross-post if there is no need to.) > -- > Andre Klapper (maemo.org bugmaster) > > ___ > maemo-users mailing list > maemo-users@maemo.org > https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users > ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Maemo/Nokia n900
Hi, Am Dienstag, den 08.06.2010, 20:50 +0530 schrieb fluke box: >Are N900 propriety libraries API available for developers ? > If Yes, where can i find the documentation for the same ? Either http://library.maemodocs.nokia.com/fremantle/index.jsp or http://maemo.org/api_refs/5.0/5.0-final/ andre (PS: Please don't cross-post if there is no need to.) -- Andre Klapper (maemo.org bugmaster) ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Maemo/Nokia n900
Hi All, Are N900 propriety libraries API available for developers ? If Yes, where can i find the documentation for the same ? Thanks &Regards, flukebox ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: wayfinder on n800 license expired
On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 2:23 AM, Paolo Casarini wrote: > > Two years ago I bought the navigation kit for Nokia N800 and last week when I > started the application a popup dialog tells me that the license is expired. > Does anybody know how to solve the problem? I don't remember any limit > declared when I bought the product. > > I wrote to the wayfinder support but nobody replies to me. Search "wayfinder" or "navicore" at talk.maemo.org forums, there are many threads about it. Apparently licenses were changed to 3 years expiry when Wayfinder was sold, and they have since effectively gone out of business, so your only apparent option is to find some workaround to the license (decide for yourself if it is moral or legal) or use another program like MaemoMapper. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Fwd: N900 is hot when charged & sucks battery life after updating to PR1.2
Hi, ext khalid khan wrote: I have attached the details that how it looks when i write top in X Terminal. Strangely you had multiple MEM & CPU lines, did you try to paste the output multiple times from a running "top" program? This output would also indicate that you did some extra activity (hald, maemo-xinput & pulseaudio are active) while top was monitoring the device: CPU: 32.0% usr 12.7% sys 0.0% nice 54.9% idle 0.0% io 0. Load average: 0.87 0.57 0.39 PID PPID USER STAT RSS %MEM %CPU COMMAND 2853 969 user R10296 4.1 16.2 /usr/bin/osso-xter 797 659 root S < 16324 6.6 14.6 /usr/bin/Xorg -log 1091 969 user S10484 4.2 8.2 /usr/bin/hildon-de 746 1 pulseS < 5016 2.0 2.3 /usr/bin/pulseaudi 842 769 root S 912 0.3 0.7 hald-addon-input: 1083 969 user S12560 5.1 0.5 /usr/bin/hildon-st 2857 2855 user R 736 0.3 0.5 top 10 2 root SW 0 0.0 0.5 [omap2_mcspi] 716 659 root S < 2244 0.9 0.3 /sbin/mce --force- 928 1 user S 2384 0.9 0.2 /usr/bin/maemo-xin - It's better if you do it like this: 1. start "top" 2. wait 10-15 secs for things to settle down 3. press "q" to quit "top" 4. tap the arrow icon to change into terminal's copy paste selection mode 5. copy top output step 3 above would make sure that your own copy-paste activity doesn't anymore change what top shows. Anyway, at least the above "top" output doesn't show any process using all the CPU constantly. Battery life can still be ruined by processes that use even a small amount of CPU, *if* they do it constantly (also when user isn't interacting with the device) though. Another reason for battery drain can be networking related issues (processes that talk to network too often, don't handle network disconnects/re-connects properly etc). > Can over charging cause battery drain in 7-11 hrs? Device should be protecting itself from over charging. Once the battery is full, it stops charging and waits until battery charge has dropped a certain amount until it start charging again. Btw. Charging always warms the device (as does using the device). Is the warming somehow exceptional after the PR1.2 update? - Eero ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
mafw-grilo-source available
I just uploaded a version of mafw-grilo-source that can be installed from the Fremantle App Manager in the N900. Grilo: http://live.gnome.org/Grilo . Grilo is a framework to provide centralized access to different multimedia sources. Currently, in Fremantle, it supports Youtube, filesystem, Jamendo and Shoutcast. MAFW: is the multimedia application framework used to build the Fremantle Media player. Now that https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9361 is fixed in Fremantle 1.2, we can enjoy third party plugins in the official media player and mafw-grilo-source is an example using grilo and therefore, providing browsing Youtube, filesystem, Jamendo and Shoutcast. Enjoy it! -- Xabier Rodríguez Calvar Enxeñeiro en Informática IGALIA http://www.igalia.com signature.asc Description: Esta é unha parte de mensaxe asinada dixitalmente ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Fwd: N900 is hot when charged & sucks battery life after updating to PR1.2
Hi Eero, I have attached the details that how it looks when i write top in X Terminal. Thanks Khalid On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 11:10 AM, Eero Tamminen wrote: > Hi, > > > ext khalid khan wrote: > >> Thanks for your reply.I typed " top " in X Terminal there are so many >> processes running some are using less 10 - 30 % & few are using 70 - 80% >> & very hard to recognize the path & don't know exactly what are these >> & how to close it. >> > > "top" being started and running in the terminal naturally consumes > some resources from the system, but you don't need to care about that. > > Just wait 10 secs after starting "top" for things to stabilize a bit > and then paste the output from top here so that people can comment > on what looks to be wrong. > > >- Eero Mem: 238648K used, 6892K free, 0K shrd, 4700K buff, 72468K c CPU: 8.7% usr 3.7% sys 0.0% nice 87.4% idle 0.0% io 0.0 Mem: 239488K used, 6052K free, 0K shrd, 4704K buff, 72472K c CPU: 1.5% usr 0.7% sys 0.0% nice 97.6% idle 0.0% io 0.0 Mem: 240816K used, 4724K free, 0K shrd, 4816K buff, 72632K CPU: 32.0% usr 12.7% sys 0.0% nice 54.9% idle 0.0% io 0. Load average: 0.87 0.57 0.39 PID PPID USER STAT RSS %MEM %CPU COMMAND 2853 969 user R10296 4.1 16.2 /usr/bin/osso-xter 797 659 root S < 16324 6.6 14.6 /usr/bin/Xorg -log 1091 969 user S10484 4.2 8.2 /usr/bin/hildon-de 746 1 pulseS < 5016 2.0 2.3 /usr/bin/pulseaudi 842 769 root S 912 0.3 0.7 hald-addon-input: 1083 969 user S12560 5.1 0.5 /usr/bin/hildon-st 2857 2855 user R 736 0.3 0.5 top 10 2 root SW 0 0.0 0.5 [omap2_mcspi] 716 659 root S < 2244 0.9 0.3 /sbin/mce --force- 928 1 user S 2384 0.9 0.2 /usr/bin/maemo-xin ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: USB keyboard and Nokia N 810
Yes In fact with setxkbmap -layout fr -model pc105 everything works like a charm ! ( I tried before to set "pc105" and "fr" in the "Bluetooth keyboard" section of the Control Panel but without any success ) Thanks for your help ! Le 08.06.2010 11:33, Damien Challet a écrit : >> Begins to work ! >> >> After doing >> >> setxkbmap -layout fr ( as root ) >> >> I get "azerty" when typing "azerty" >> >> But I cannot get any accent or symbols like @ | or ] ! >> >> I must have to say to X that it is s generic 105 keyboard >> >> I look at the manpage of setxkbmap ! > > try to set the hardware keyboard to pc105 in the control panel, it might work. > > ___ > maemo-users mailing list > maemo-users@maemo.org > https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users > ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: USB keyboard and Nokia N 810
> Begins to work ! > > After doing > > setxkbmap -layout fr ( as root ) > > I get "azerty" when typing "azerty" > > But I cannot get any accent or symbols like @ | or ] ! > > I must have to say to X that it is s generic 105 keyboard > > I look at the manpage of setxkbmap ! try to set the hardware keyboard to pc105 in the control panel, it might work. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: USB keyboard and Nokia N 810
Begins to work ! After doing setxkbmap -layout fr ( as root ) I get "azerty" when typing "azerty" But I cannot get any accent or symbols like @ | or ] ! I must have to say to X that it is s generic 105 keyboard I look at the manpage of setxkbmap ! Thanks Le 08.06.2010 10:50, Damien Challet a écrit : >> I have succedded to connect my USB keyborqd on my Nokia N 810 using >> USB-Control in Host mode. >> >> Everything works fine except .. my AZERTY keyboard is understood >> like a QWERTY keyboard !!! >> >> I tried to make a "loadkeys fr" as root but loadkeys is unknown to >> busybox !!! > > does > > setxkbmap -layout fr > > work ? > > ___ > maemo-users mailing list > maemo-users@maemo.org > https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users > ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: USB keyboard and Nokia N 810
> I have succedded to connect my USB keyborqd on my Nokia N 810 using > USB-Control in Host mode. > > Everything works fine except .. my AZERTY keyboard is understood > like a QWERTY keyboard !!! > > I tried to make a "loadkeys fr" as root but loadkeys is unknown to > busybox !!! does setxkbmap -layout fr work ? ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: how to update Nokia N810 to maemo 5
1) Thank you very much for your tone of voice 2) I see your point is valid on the Bug fixes not a new GUI, but is this relevant to the Nx platform, I do not know 3) Sorry to have Nokia disappointed by the geeks and Maemo community,I wish that the community replies you here 4) Sorry again to know that working for Open Source is boring,M$ has some vacancy go and enjoy yourself there 2010/6/8 Kimmo Hämäläinen > On Tue, 2010-06-08 at 09:29 +0200, ext Samer Azmy wrote: > > what is the life cycle of Nokia Nx series ? how many years ?! > > Can you compare it to the rest of the hardware manufactures ? > > You get bug fixes for a year or two, but that's different than porting a > whole new software release. Or do you get new user interfaces for other > N series phones? > > > can you compare to other Nokia mobile phones ? > > Yes. It's called maintenance, fixing of nasty bugs. Not rewriting the > whole UI. > > > it seems that Nokia creates such hardware and make it for geeks to > > have kinda of free R&D research community, imagining that geeks do not > > care about money, they just care about the toy/gadget > > If that would be the case, Nokia would be very disappointed by these > geeks by now :) > Maemo/MeeGo is based on open-source and free software, yes, but most of > this free software is written by companies, such as Nokia, not by > teenage geeks with shiny foreheads. This is because most of the work is > boring, endless debugging stuff and no-one wants to do it for free :) > > > I still appreciate that some1 from nokia gets into this discussion LOL > > I'm not speaking for Nokia since I'm just a lowly, poor software > developer doing the boring parts of open-source ;) > > -Kimmo > > > please when you say Meego is supported on N900, send references and > > links > > > > kind regards > > Sam > > > > 2010/6/8 Kimmo Hämäläinen > > On Tue, 2010-06-08 at 09:09 +0200, ext Samer Azmy wrote: > > > thanks for ur reply > > > but the question here, why they stop the support for it that > > fast, > > > even if Maemo5 is dragon > > > they stopped the others > > > and for me it sounds like a trend, please read history > > > Nokia N77, Nokia N800, Nokia N820,Nokia N900 > > > > > > I've been around since the Nokia 770, so you don't need to > > tell me... > > Technology moves on and if Nokia would stop developing new > > devices, > > competitors would go ahead and get the advantage. If > > something does not > > sell, you have to try something else. > > > > > and if im not mistaken Meego support is not Official for > > N900, now > > > Nokia plays the game again > > > > > > What I've read, N900 is the official ARM platform for MeeGo > > and > > certainly supported. You can install MeeGo platform on N900 > > already now. > > > > > it is a pitty > > > > Money comes from sales. How many people would be enthusiastic > > of buying > > something like N810 nowadays? You cannot sell the same device > > for years > > and years, it just gets old at some point. > > > > -Kimmo > > > > > > > > > > Sam > > > > > > 2010/6/8 Kimmo Hämäläinen > > > On Tue, 2010-06-08 at 08:04 +0200, ext Samer Azmy > > wrote: > > > > now I have a question > > > > 1) Why Nokia do that to us ? it is a modern device > > and they > > > kill it in > > > > less than two years > > > > 2) is that customer oriented attitude from Nokia ? > > > > 3) is Nokia an Ethical company , specially that we > > have seen > > > the same > > > > scenario with N770 > > > > > > > > > The main obstacle is that the N810 does not have > > powerful > > > enough OpenGL > > > hardware for Maemo 5 user interface. So Maemo 5 > > would be > > > really slow in > > > N810, making it worse than the original UI. Nokia > > is in > > > device selling > > > business, so making devices worse is not in its > > interest.. :) > > > > > > -Kimmo > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kind Regards > > > > Samer > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 2:30 AM, Erik Hovland > > > wrote: > > > > > I would like to know if it is possible > > update > > > Nokia N810 to > > > > Maemo5. > > > > > > > > > > > > You can't. > > > > > > > >
Re: how to update Nokia N810 to maemo 5
On Tue, 2010-06-08 at 09:29 +0200, ext Samer Azmy wrote: > what is the life cycle of Nokia Nx series ? how many years ?! > Can you compare it to the rest of the hardware manufactures ? You get bug fixes for a year or two, but that's different than porting a whole new software release. Or do you get new user interfaces for other N series phones? > can you compare to other Nokia mobile phones ? Yes. It's called maintenance, fixing of nasty bugs. Not rewriting the whole UI. > it seems that Nokia creates such hardware and make it for geeks to > have kinda of free R&D research community, imagining that geeks do not > care about money, they just care about the toy/gadget If that would be the case, Nokia would be very disappointed by these geeks by now :) Maemo/MeeGo is based on open-source and free software, yes, but most of this free software is written by companies, such as Nokia, not by teenage geeks with shiny foreheads. This is because most of the work is boring, endless debugging stuff and no-one wants to do it for free :) > I still appreciate that some1 from nokia gets into this discussion LOL I'm not speaking for Nokia since I'm just a lowly, poor software developer doing the boring parts of open-source ;) -Kimmo > please when you say Meego is supported on N900, send references and > links > > kind regards > Sam > > 2010/6/8 Kimmo Hämäläinen > On Tue, 2010-06-08 at 09:09 +0200, ext Samer Azmy wrote: > > thanks for ur reply > > but the question here, why they stop the support for it that > fast, > > even if Maemo5 is dragon > > they stopped the others > > and for me it sounds like a trend, please read history > > Nokia N77, Nokia N800, Nokia N820,Nokia N900 > > > I've been around since the Nokia 770, so you don't need to > tell me... > Technology moves on and if Nokia would stop developing new > devices, > competitors would go ahead and get the advantage. If > something does not > sell, you have to try something else. > > > and if im not mistaken Meego support is not Official for > N900, now > > Nokia plays the game again > > > What I've read, N900 is the official ARM platform for MeeGo > and > certainly supported. You can install MeeGo platform on N900 > already now. > > > it is a pitty > > Money comes from sales. How many people would be enthusiastic > of buying > something like N810 nowadays? You cannot sell the same device > for years > and years, it just gets old at some point. > > -Kimmo > > > > > > Sam > > > > 2010/6/8 Kimmo Hämäläinen > > On Tue, 2010-06-08 at 08:04 +0200, ext Samer Azmy > wrote: > > > now I have a question > > > 1) Why Nokia do that to us ? it is a modern device > and they > > kill it in > > > less than two years > > > 2) is that customer oriented attitude from Nokia ? > > > 3) is Nokia an Ethical company , specially that we > have seen > > the same > > > scenario with N770 > > > > > > The main obstacle is that the N810 does not have > powerful > > enough OpenGL > > hardware for Maemo 5 user interface. So Maemo 5 > would be > > really slow in > > N810, making it worse than the original UI. Nokia > is in > > device selling > > business, so making devices worse is not in its > interest.. :) > > > > -Kimmo > > > > > > > > > > Kind Regards > > > Samer > > > > > > On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 2:30 AM, Erik Hovland > > wrote: > > > > I would like to know if it is possible > update > > Nokia N810 to > > > Maemo5. > > > > > > > > > You can't. > > > > > > But there is a community effort to make > sure MeeGo > > is ported > > > to the N8x0: > > > http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/N8x0 > > > > > > Hopefully in the near future there can be > a MeeGo > > 1.x on the > > > N810. > > > > > > E > > > > > > -- > > > Erik Hovland > > > e...@
Re: USB keyboard and Nokia N 810
I have succedded to connect my USB keyborqd on my Nokia N 810 using USB-Control in Host mode. Everything works fine except .. my AZERTY keyboard is understood like a QWERTY keyboard !!! I tried to make a "loadkeys fr" as root but loadkeys is unknown to busybox !!! How to put Xomap in Azerty mode ? Didier > > - Original Message - > Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2010 19:14:18 +0200 >> From: Luca Olivetti >> Subject: Re: USB keyboard and Nokia N 810 >> To: maemo-users@maemo.org >> Message-ID: <4c09346a.50...@ventoso.org> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed >> >> Al 04/06/10 11:06, En/na COURTAUD Didier ha escrit: >>> Hello all >>> >>> Is it possible to connect and use a USB keyboard to the Nokia N 810 >>> using its mini-USB adapter ? >> >> yes >> http://wiki.maemo.org/USB_host_mode >> >> Bye >> -- >> Luca >> > > ___ > maemo-users mailing list > maemo-users@maemo.org > https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users > ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Fwd: N900 is hot when charged & sucks battery life after updating to PR1.2
On Tue, 2010-06-08 at 07:57 +0200, ext khalid khan wrote: > Dear Kimmo, > > > How do i close all (which ever is using more % CPU) application by > command in X Terminal. I am new to this. > Because when I write top in X Terminal it pulls all the processes > running & i cannot do anything later,If click on the scroll keys up & > down it keeps scrolling & get backs to same. I cannot find page end to > type anything there. > > > Also the on screen key like Ctrl , Esc, Page Up , Page Down doesn't > seems to help. Pressing 'q' quits it. See http://linux.die.net/man/1/top > Is there any other way to close this more % CPU apps to close. Please tell us which ones are taking the CPU and we tell you if you can kill them or what you should do. You cannot just blindly kill stuff and expect the device to still work. -Kimmo > > > Regards, > Khalid > > 2010/6/7 Kimmo Hämäläinen > On Mon, 2010-06-07 at 15:12 +0200, ext khalid khan wrote: > > Thanks for your reply.I typed " top " in X Terminal there > are so many > > processes running some are using less 10 - 30 % & few are > using 70 - > > 80% & very hard to recognize the path & don't know exactly > what are > > these & how to close it. > > > Which ones are using 70-80%? Close all applications (except X > Terminal) > before checking. > > -Kimmo > > > > > > > > Is there any short key to turn off un-necessary processes. > > > > > > Thanks > > -- > > Khalid Khan > > > > 2010/6/7 Kimmo Hämäläinen > > On Sun, 2010-06-06 at 14:10 +0200, ext khalid khan > wrote: > > > In my N900 there is only two widget running on > desktop AP > > News & > > > Foreca Weather with other shortcuts of contact > icons & games > > icon but > > > do this eat up so much of battery that when it's > been > > charged for 2 - > > > 3 hrs in every 7 or 11 hrs a day. > > > > > > Could you check with "top" command in "X Terminal" > if some > > process has a > > big number in the "%CPU" column? There has been > some reports > > about > > Twitter applet before... > > > > -Kimmo > > > > > > > > > > I know if media (audio & video) is running it eat > more > > battery life. > > > But i have tried not using it & always analyse > with Battery > > Eye App. > > > > > > I use normally emails (not mre than 10-20 emails, > on > > weekends) use to > > > play some simple games,listen music & watch some > > videos ,talk on gtalk > > > voice & video.Browse Internet. > > > > > > I charge using normal USB Adapter & Battery gets > full in 2-3 > > hrs. > > > > > > Also notice that the pin converter provided in the > nokia box > > if > > > charged through that it charges but once unplugged > the > > battery is > > > drained. If charged with normal USB Adapter works > fine & > > with USB > > > connected to laptop. > > > > > > What would be the real reason as i purchased N900 > only 4 > > months back > > > so i dont think it should be problem with battery. > > > > > > Can over charging cause battery drain in 7-11 hrs? > Please > > let me > > > know. > > > > > > Thanks > > > Khalid > > > -- > > > Sent from my Nokia N900 using Nokia Messaging ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: how to update Nokia N810 to maemo 5
what is the life cycle of Nokia Nx series ? how many years ?! Can you compare it to the rest of the hardware manufactures ? can you compare to other Nokia mobile phones ? it seems that Nokia creates such hardware and make it for geeks to have kinda of free R&D research community, imagining that geeks do not care about money, they just care about the toy/gadget I still appreciate that some1 from nokia gets into this discussion LOL please when you say Meego is supported on N900, send references and links kind regards Sam 2010/6/8 Kimmo Hämäläinen > On Tue, 2010-06-08 at 09:09 +0200, ext Samer Azmy wrote: > > thanks for ur reply > > but the question here, why they stop the support for it that fast, > > even if Maemo5 is dragon > > they stopped the others > > and for me it sounds like a trend, please read history > > Nokia N77, Nokia N800, Nokia N820,Nokia N900 > > I've been around since the Nokia 770, so you don't need to tell me... > Technology moves on and if Nokia would stop developing new devices, > competitors would go ahead and get the advantage. If something does not > sell, you have to try something else. > > > and if im not mistaken Meego support is not Official for N900, now > > Nokia plays the game again > > What I've read, N900 is the official ARM platform for MeeGo and > certainly supported. You can install MeeGo platform on N900 already now. > > > it is a pitty > > Money comes from sales. How many people would be enthusiastic of buying > something like N810 nowadays? You cannot sell the same device for years > and years, it just gets old at some point. > > -Kimmo > > > > > Sam > > > > 2010/6/8 Kimmo Hämäläinen > > On Tue, 2010-06-08 at 08:04 +0200, ext Samer Azmy wrote: > > > now I have a question > > > 1) Why Nokia do that to us ? it is a modern device and they > > kill it in > > > less than two years > > > 2) is that customer oriented attitude from Nokia ? > > > 3) is Nokia an Ethical company , specially that we have seen > > the same > > > scenario with N770 > > > > > > The main obstacle is that the N810 does not have powerful > > enough OpenGL > > hardware for Maemo 5 user interface. So Maemo 5 would be > > really slow in > > N810, making it worse than the original UI. Nokia is in > > device selling > > business, so making devices worse is not in its interest.. :) > > > > -Kimmo > > > > > > > > > > Kind Regards > > > Samer > > > > > > On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 2:30 AM, Erik Hovland > > wrote: > > > > I would like to know if it is possible update > > Nokia N810 to > > > Maemo5. > > > > > > > > > You can't. > > > > > > But there is a community effort to make sure MeeGo > > is ported > > > to the N8x0: > > > http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/N8x0 > > > > > > Hopefully in the near future there can be a MeeGo > > 1.x on the > > > N810. > > > > > > E > > > > > > -- > > > Erik Hovland > > > e...@hovland.org > > > http://hovland.org/ > > > ___ > > > maemo-users mailing list > > > maemo-users@maemo.org > > > https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > __ > > > http://geek2live.blogspot.com/ > > > http://www.geeksconsultancy.com > > > http://www.urvpn.com > > > http://www.siteheed.com > > > - You pick the level of your suffering yourself - Budha- > > > - Meditate. Live purely. Be quiet. Do your work with > > mastery. Like the > > > moon, come out from behind the clouds! Shine. -- Buddha > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > __ > > http://geek2live.blogspot.com/ > > http://www.geeksconsultancy.com > > http://www.urvpn.com > > http://www.siteheed.com > > - You pick the level of your suffering yourself - Budha- > > - Meditate. Live purely. Be quiet. Do your work with mastery. Like the > > moon, come out from behind the clouds! Shine. -- Buddha > > -- __ http://geek2live.blogspot.com/ http://www.geeksconsultancy.com http://www.urvpn.com http://www.siteheed.com - You pick the level of your suffering yourself - Budha- - Meditate. Live purely. Be quiet. Do your work with mastery. Like the moon, come out from behind the clouds! Shine. -- Buddha ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: how to update Nokia N810 to maemo 5
On Tue, 2010-06-08 at 09:09 +0200, ext Samer Azmy wrote: > thanks for ur reply > but the question here, why they stop the support for it that fast, > even if Maemo5 is dragon > they stopped the others > and for me it sounds like a trend, please read history > Nokia N77, Nokia N800, Nokia N820,Nokia N900 I've been around since the Nokia 770, so you don't need to tell me... Technology moves on and if Nokia would stop developing new devices, competitors would go ahead and get the advantage. If something does not sell, you have to try something else. > and if im not mistaken Meego support is not Official for N900, now > Nokia plays the game again What I've read, N900 is the official ARM platform for MeeGo and certainly supported. You can install MeeGo platform on N900 already now. > it is a pitty Money comes from sales. How many people would be enthusiastic of buying something like N810 nowadays? You cannot sell the same device for years and years, it just gets old at some point. -Kimmo > > Sam > > 2010/6/8 Kimmo Hämäläinen > On Tue, 2010-06-08 at 08:04 +0200, ext Samer Azmy wrote: > > now I have a question > > 1) Why Nokia do that to us ? it is a modern device and they > kill it in > > less than two years > > 2) is that customer oriented attitude from Nokia ? > > 3) is Nokia an Ethical company , specially that we have seen > the same > > scenario with N770 > > > The main obstacle is that the N810 does not have powerful > enough OpenGL > hardware for Maemo 5 user interface. So Maemo 5 would be > really slow in > N810, making it worse than the original UI. Nokia is in > device selling > business, so making devices worse is not in its interest.. :) > > -Kimmo > > > > > > Kind Regards > > Samer > > > > On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 2:30 AM, Erik Hovland > wrote: > > > I would like to know if it is possible update > Nokia N810 to > > Maemo5. > > > > > > You can't. > > > > But there is a community effort to make sure MeeGo > is ported > > to the N8x0: > > http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/N8x0 > > > > Hopefully in the near future there can be a MeeGo > 1.x on the > > N810. > > > > E > > > > -- > > Erik Hovland > > e...@hovland.org > > http://hovland.org/ > > ___ > > maemo-users mailing list > > maemo-users@maemo.org > > https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users > > > > > > > > -- > > __ > > http://geek2live.blogspot.com/ > > http://www.geeksconsultancy.com > > http://www.urvpn.com > > http://www.siteheed.com > > - You pick the level of your suffering yourself - Budha- > > - Meditate. Live purely. Be quiet. Do your work with > mastery. Like the > > moon, come out from behind the clouds! Shine. -- Buddha > > > > > > -- > __ > http://geek2live.blogspot.com/ > http://www.geeksconsultancy.com > http://www.urvpn.com > http://www.siteheed.com > - You pick the level of your suffering yourself - Budha- > - Meditate. Live purely. Be quiet. Do your work with mastery. Like the > moon, come out from behind the clouds! Shine. -- Buddha ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
wayfinder on n800 license expired
Two years ago I bought the navigation kit for Nokia N800 and last week when I started the application a popup dialog tells me that the license is expired. Does anybody know how to solve the problem? I don't remember any limit declared when I bought the product. I wrote to the wayfinder support but nobody replies to me. TIA, Paolo. -- GPG key: 1024D/9C5AE886 2004-10-21 Paolo Casarini ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Fwd: N900 is hot when charged & sucks battery life after updating to PR1.2
Hi, ext khalid khan wrote: Thanks for your reply.I typed " top " in X Terminal there are so many processes running some are using less 10 - 30 % & few are using 70 - 80% & very hard to recognize the path & don't know exactly what are these & how to close it. "top" being started and running in the terminal naturally consumes some resources from the system, but you don't need to care about that. Just wait 10 secs after starting "top" for things to stabilize a bit and then paste the output from top here so that people can comment on what looks to be wrong. - Eero ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: how to update Nokia N810 to maemo 5
thanks for ur reply but the question here, why they stop the support for it that fast, even if Maemo5 is dragon they stopped the others and for me it sounds like a trend, please read history Nokia N77, Nokia N800, Nokia N820,Nokia N900 and if im not mistaken Meego support is not Official for N900, now Nokia plays the game again it is a pitty Sam 2010/6/8 Kimmo Hämäläinen > On Tue, 2010-06-08 at 08:04 +0200, ext Samer Azmy wrote: > > now I have a question > > 1) Why Nokia do that to us ? it is a modern device and they kill it in > > less than two years > > 2) is that customer oriented attitude from Nokia ? > > 3) is Nokia an Ethical company , specially that we have seen the same > > scenario with N770 > > The main obstacle is that the N810 does not have powerful enough OpenGL > hardware for Maemo 5 user interface. So Maemo 5 would be really slow in > N810, making it worse than the original UI. Nokia is in device selling > business, so making devices worse is not in its interest.. :) > > -Kimmo > > > > > Kind Regards > > Samer > > > > On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 2:30 AM, Erik Hovland wrote: > > > I would like to know if it is possible update Nokia N810 to > > Maemo5. > > > > > > You can't. > > > > But there is a community effort to make sure MeeGo is ported > > to the N8x0: > > http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/N8x0 > > > > Hopefully in the near future there can be a MeeGo 1.x on the > > N810. > > > > E > > > > -- > > Erik Hovland > > e...@hovland.org > > http://hovland.org/ > > ___ > > maemo-users mailing list > > maemo-users@maemo.org > > https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users > > > > > > > > -- > > __ > > http://geek2live.blogspot.com/ > > http://www.geeksconsultancy.com > > http://www.urvpn.com > > http://www.siteheed.com > > - You pick the level of your suffering yourself - Budha- > > - Meditate. Live purely. Be quiet. Do your work with mastery. Like the > > moon, come out from behind the clouds! Shine. -- Buddha > > -- __ http://geek2live.blogspot.com/ http://www.geeksconsultancy.com http://www.urvpn.com http://www.siteheed.com - You pick the level of your suffering yourself - Budha- - Meditate. Live purely. Be quiet. Do your work with mastery. Like the moon, come out from behind the clouds! Shine. -- Buddha ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: how to update Nokia N810 to maemo 5
On Tue, 2010-06-08 at 08:04 +0200, ext Samer Azmy wrote: > now I have a question > 1) Why Nokia do that to us ? it is a modern device and they kill it in > less than two years > 2) is that customer oriented attitude from Nokia ? > 3) is Nokia an Ethical company , specially that we have seen the same > scenario with N770 The main obstacle is that the N810 does not have powerful enough OpenGL hardware for Maemo 5 user interface. So Maemo 5 would be really slow in N810, making it worse than the original UI. Nokia is in device selling business, so making devices worse is not in its interest.. :) -Kimmo > > Kind Regards > Samer > > On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 2:30 AM, Erik Hovland wrote: > > I would like to know if it is possible update Nokia N810 to > Maemo5. > > > You can't. > > But there is a community effort to make sure MeeGo is ported > to the N8x0: > http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/N8x0 > > Hopefully in the near future there can be a MeeGo 1.x on the > N810. > > E > > -- > Erik Hovland > e...@hovland.org > http://hovland.org/ > ___ > maemo-users mailing list > maemo-users@maemo.org > https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users > > > > -- > __ > http://geek2live.blogspot.com/ > http://www.geeksconsultancy.com > http://www.urvpn.com > http://www.siteheed.com > - You pick the level of your suffering yourself - Budha- > - Meditate. Live purely. Be quiet. Do your work with mastery. Like the > moon, come out from behind the clouds! Shine. -- Buddha ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
