Flashing USB device not supported message
Hi folks, I have a message flashing on my N800 that says 'USB device not supported' .. I have nothing in the USB port .. I have 5.2008.43-7 installed and haven't done any hacking of the device .. I tried power off and on and the message is still there .. Anyone have suggestions of how to get rid of this? It keeps the screen lit and kills the battery. Thanks -- Gary Baribault Courriel: g...@baribault.net GPG Key: 0xFA812835 GPG Fingerprint: 8597 4D3D 3C3D 4247 077C 9FF9 E412 CAC4 FA81 2835 ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: S6 benq
Wow .. where you just elected? Ease up a little, I think most users are curious about the other devices out there .. it was'nt that far off topic .. he was'nt talking about a new WII controler or something .. it's a device similar to ours .. Gary Baribault Courriel: [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG Key: 0x4346F013 GPG Fingerprint: BCE8 2E6B EB39 9B23 6904 1DF4 C4E6 2CF7 4346 F013 Ryan Abel wrote: On Oct 5, 2008, at 9:02 AM, John Holmblad wrote: lighten up. That was no off topic. You just need to think a bit more deeply and broadly about subject to conclude that is fits within the scope of this list. Does it run Maemo? (no) Can it run Maemo? (no) What does it have to do with Maemo? (nothing at all) What's the name of this list? (maemo-users) Quoting the list description from maemo.org[1] A list for users of maemo Development Platform. Share your experiences with the rest of the maemo community. How, exactly, is this thread on-topic, again? [1]http://lists.maemo.org/mailman//listinfo/maemo-users -- Ryan Abel Maemo Community Council chair ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: N800 RIP?
I have to agree with you there, there where compromises made between. I have an N800, and would love to have the keyboard from the 810, but would not give up the FM and second memory slot to get the keyboard and GPS. Gary Baribault Courriel: [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG Key: 0x4346F013 GPG Fingerprint: BCE8 2E6B EB39 9B23 6904 1DF4 C4E6 2CF7 4346 F013 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 11:12:37AM -0600, Denis Dimick wrote: Jeff, The n800 has been discontinued, about a year ago. You may find one on e-bay, or just pick up the n810. The n810 is *not* an adequate replacement for the 800, just as the 800 is *not* an adequate replacement for the 810. -- hendrik ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: GPE applications dont install in Diablo
Hey folks, Jonathan resolved it, the Extras repository by default leaves the Distribution field blank, I added chinook and diable and everything worked fine. Thanks Jonathan Gary B Jonathan Markevich wrote: These packages are not completely installed on upgrade... if you can, go to a root prompt and type apt-get -f install That should install them and let you proceed. On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 3:06 PM, Gary Baribault [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, I have flashed Diablo, but when it tries to re-install the applications, it fails on all GPE applications with missing dependencies: libsqlite0, flash-and-reboot, initfs-flasher and kernel-diablo-flasher Anyone else having this fun? Gary B ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org mailto:maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Sync with Thunderbird
Does anyone have a howto .. I want to sync gpe-contacts with Thunderbird .. I'm running the last daily of GPE-* and Evolution 2.x on openSuSE. Thanks -- Gary Baribault Courriel: [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG Key: 0x4346F013 GPG Fingerprint: BCE8 2E6B EB39 9B23 6904 1DF4 C4E6 2CF7 4346 F013 ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Postal address in Contacts?
I happen to have over 800 contacts and have been working with Graham on GPE-Contact and GPE_Calendar. He's very open to suggestions and help, I'm sure that if you gave him a clear explanation of which fields are imported wrong, he'll look into it and get it fixed. I just finally got the import to digest my contact file, and havent had a chance to get it cleaned up. I purchased the N800 as a mini laptop/PIM/MP3 player/and IP Phone. I've had it about a year or so and finally have a working PIM, even though like you I think the GPE-Contact part needs more work, but the whole GPE group are quite functional. Gary Baribault Courriel: [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG Key: 0x4346F013 GPG Fingerprint: BCE8 2E6B EB39 9B23 6904 1DF4 C4E6 2CF7 4346 F013 Mark wrote: On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 10:13 AM, Uwe Kaminski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Donnerstag, den 19.06.2008, 09:04 -0600 schrieb Mark: On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 2:10 AM, Uwe Kaminski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So I don't would agree if somebody says the contacts application is very poor. It's like a small flower which has to grow. And yes, it would grow faster if the contacts application would be open source. Ciao Uwe You're contradicting yourself and missing the point. If the application weren't so poor, it wouldn't *need* to grow. And if Pimlico does indeed use the exact same database, then clearly there is something going on here that is not aboveboard, and Contacts is deliberately crippled rather than simply a first effort. Where is the problem? There is an back-end (the db) wich supports more than the standard front-end application could display. So choose an other flower from the bouquet of available applications. The other way round (less db fields; more fields like postal adress in the apps) would be much more worse. Ciao Uwe There are two problems: 1) Whether Nokia wants to admit it or not, the tablets need a *good* PIM out of the box. Developers apparently don't need real PIMs, but consumers do. It doesn't qualify as a consumer device without it. 2) If you're willing to enter all your data by hand, or edit each and every imported field in order clean up the records, then gpe-contacts and Pimlico are great. However, if you need good import/export functionality, you're screwed regardless of which app you use, and that includes the built-in Contacts app. I have over 400 records (with many fields) that I need to transfer to from my N800, so I definitely fall under the category of you're screwed. Mark ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
(Resolved) (For me)Re: Decent PIM for the N8x0
A decade ago (Well maybe not quite), I started this thread complaining about the GPE-Calendar and then privately to Graham about gpesyncd. Like all good people, Graham took my rather bitter complaint like a true gentleman, he didn't get pissed off, just asked me privately, off list, for specific information about my problems. He then worked hard and found the problems and fixed them. My calendar no longer rings for nothing, and my contacts are all loaded up. The thread wandered off into some other valid discussions, and that's fun. The GPE suite is not perfect, but thanks to the Open Source developers I finally have what I consider to be a functional PIM, and can get on to playing/learning the system properly. Thanks Graham, and keep this discussion going, Gary Baribault ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Decent PIM for the N8x0
I remember a long time ago using a piece of software called TimeChaos .. it still exists, but they have no intention of making a Linux version, I've asked many times .. The alarms only go off once, you can start the week on Sunday or Monday, you can link a contact or many contacts to a calendar event, you can create all the categories you want and share them between TODO, Events, Contacts etc .. you can do searches on just about anything. but most of all, it just works! One other thing I would like is to be able to import my 600+ contacts that I exported from my CE to Outlook and then exported from there to a VCard file. BTW, my Calendar work me up at 5:45 AM this morning as expected and so far has also gone off for the same event at 8:05 this morning .. And I'm not knocking the efforts Graham is making either, he tried real hard to solve all of this about 6 months ago when I brought it up to him. Gary B Jonathan Markevich wrote: On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 9:40 PM, Gary Baribault [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So why can't we get a decent calendar and Contact manager? I've worked I don't mind the GPE contact manager, it lets me get at contacts fairly quickly. Entering them is quite frustrating, but I think a few bug fixes can remedy that. Maybe even just a first name and last name field would be enough! I find I can't leave GPE calendar running though, it tends to eat my battery overnight. It's farther off from what we want anyway... I wonder, is it that hard to show the week starting on Sunday, like the popdown calendars do? I kind of wish that someone would start up an oposing PIM .. Any takers? 450$ to play Mahjong or Blocks seems a little steep! I know, it frustrates me and quite a few others too. I wonder if we could start a wishlist and maybe even a bounty? We all know developers scratch their own itch, but give them some specific requirements and ideas and who knows? Where would we put this? Forward it to Thoughtfix? The ITT wiki? On here? Do we request these things from GPE or OpenedHand? Graham, I'd like to know a couple of things; 1) are you getting specific, practical requests from people and 2) is it even possible to push these upstream - or are you kinda stuck being a porter only? Thanks for your work. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Decent PIM for the N8x0
Hi all, I must say that I'm disapointed, I've had a Palm 3x, two Palm 5s, an Windows CE device and I was very happy to finally have a Linux based box .. I don't know Debian, but linux is linux right? So why can't we get a decent calendar and Contact manager? I've worked with Glen on the Celendar and I'm convinced that he's working hard, but what I need is quite simple ... I'm a good Christian boy, and every Friday night, Sunday morning and Sunday night I have an assembly, every Monday and Wednesday afternoon I teach an English course (I'm a French Canadian boy). I get up every morning at 5:45 AM and I've programmed all of that in the N800 (2008 OS) .. The software is right up to date, and never fails to warn me .. on time every time .. the problem is that it usually also warns me 60, 75, 90 and 120 minutes after the apointments .. not in a consistent fashion but just randomly every now and again .. you would think that it would be possible to get an alarm to work right? It is April 2008 .. (sorry Graham, as I said I know youre working hard). The fact of it is that I would go back to my Palm or CE, but I HATE giving up on a good Linux box .. I kind of wish that someone would start up an oposing PIM .. Any takers? 450$ to play Mahjong or Blocks seems a little steep! Gary B ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Decent PIM for the N8x0
I don't snooze .. I'm crazy but not stupid .. I do know the difference .. I've worked with Glen on these bugs and this is quite a bit more complex .. Gary B MoRpHeUz wrote: Hi, On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 9:40 PM, Gary Baribault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: never fails to warn me .. on time every time .. the problem is that it usually also warns me 60, 75, 90 and 120 minutes after the apointments .. not in a consistent fashion but just randomly every now and again .. I know that we lack PIM applications but this random warnings could be because you snooze the alarm, and dont actually stop it. BR, ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: FM radio on N800 running OS2008?
Please let us know when the Radio works, I would like to test, but I too use the radio often! Gary B Frederic Crozat wrote: Le mardi 27 novembre 2007 à 09:49 +0100, Laurent MARTIN a écrit : Hi! Now that OS2008 is officially available for our N800 (even if it's a beta, thanks to people at Maemo and Nokia!), could anyone here let me know whether or not the FM radio applet is available and working on OS2008 running on the N800? It isn't available yet for IT2008/n800. Same for other Nokia projects like VideoCenter or Camera :( Maybe the beta for n800 was not only for contributor developpers after all ;) ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: N810 on a N800?
Does installing the 810 version affect the FM Tuner in the 800?
Gary Baribault
José Luís wrote:
Hi Alan,
I try and works.
Thanks for the tip. This new OS version is more fast and usable than the
later versions.
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mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
http://www.news.com/8301-10784_3-9816300-7.html?tag=nefd.only
Anyone tried this?
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Re: charger for the n800
I walked into the nearest Cellular store and asked for a Nokia phone charger and tried it. It worked great .. end of story, Gary B Peter Flynn wrote: Mike Klein wrote: I would strongly suggest a usb recharging solution Useless if you don't have a USB powered device. One of the objectives of getting the N800 was so I *didn't* have to trug my lapdog with me... But as I said, if regular Nokia phone chargers can supply the power the N800 needs, the problem is solved, as I can get a cable for my Instant-Power charger kit. ///Peter ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: N800 simple soft case mod
Does this case clip to the belt? I had my lady sew a rubber belt loop to the back of the gray soft case that the N800 came withand it works, but is not the best solution... I'm looking for a cellular type of clip on belt holder that would protect the N800 when I toss it in my laptop bag. Gary B Laurent MARTIN wrote: is this the case that you purchased? This looks like the official Nokia case. _http://www.amazon.com/Nokia-Inc-Carrying-Case-N800/dp/B000VMUHCI/ref=pd_sim_e_shvl_title_6/002-1216925-7086422?ie=UTF8qid=1193074556sr=8-5_ http://www.amazon.com/Nokia-Inc-Carrying-Case-N800/dp/B000VMUHCI/ref=pd_sim_e_shvl_title_6/002-1216925-7086422?ie=UTF8qid=1193074556sr=8-5 Yes, it is! -- *Laurent*, Nantes (FR) - *http://blog.lmartin.fr* http://blog.lmartin.fr/ /Apple MacBook Pro 15/ /Nokia Internet Tablet N800/ /Palm Treo 650 (unlocked GSM)/ ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: N800 simple soft case mod
Does anyone else clip it /want to clip it to their belt? Gary B Aniello Del Sorbo wrote: On 10/23/07, *Gary Baribault* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does this case clip to the belt? I had my lady sew a rubber belt loop to the back of the gray soft case that the N800 came withand it works, but is not the best solution... I'm looking for a cellular type of clip on belt holder that would protect the N800 when I toss it in my laptop bag. No, unfortunately it does not clip to the belt. -- anidel ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: N800 simple soft case mod
I find it a bit heavy for my shirt pocket for an entire day, as I stated I modified the grey soft case for my belt, but I think that this is a short term solution that will eventualy break/rip/fall off! Gary B Marius Gedminas wrote: On Tue, Oct 23, 2007 at 11:14:23AM -0400, Gary Baribault wrote: Does anyone else clip it /want to clip it to their belt? No, it's too big for that. Shirt pocket is the right place. When I have one. Marius Gedminas ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: N810 is here
Why the heck would they remove the FM Radio? And go down to 1 memory slot? I guess that one could be because of the placement of the keyboard. It sure would be nice if we could charge from the USB and host unpowered on the USB. I assume that the hosting is a question of support and battery life. Gary Baribault Courriel: [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG Key: 0x4346F013 GPG Fingerprint: BCE8 2E6B EB39 9B23 6904 1DF4 C4E6 2CF7 4346 F013 Jonathan Greene wrote: Been meaning to reply back to this thread been hectic here. My device is pre-release and has a slip case which I believe will be included. Ogg is not included for codec licensing issues... Form factor is excellent as is the build and it will apparently get a bit better over the course of the pre-release period along with the updates to the OS for release. Non-Powered USB...can't charge - not sure about keyboard, but I assume not and it's the micro-USB variety. MiniSD gives you up to 10GB storage with the internal ... US / Canada maps are preinstalled in much (think it's around1.8GB) of the 2GB internal and non-removable card which is how you get 256 free there. Wimax is next year... I've been told it's later. No FM radio either... Anything else - I'll likely have an overview blog post up in the next 24-48 hours once i get back to NY have time to think it out a bit with some extended use. If there's something specific you'd like to know, please let me know... On 10/18/07, *Steve Greenland* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: According to John Rudd [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: And, no, it's not about open and free. Since the developers in question are Nokia (since the comment was directed at the release of the N810 itself, and not a request for more 3rd party development), it's about how much effort the developers need to put into supporting something vs. the amount of return they get from supporting it. Actually, it is about being open and free. Nokia promotes the tablet as an open platform, and is using huge amounts of free software as the basis for its product. To ignore ogg-vorbis support, which *is* an important feature for many of us (and far more valuable, to *me*, than WMA and AAC support), and is pretty much the only free-as-in-freedom codec, is a bit of a slap in the face. Some of us do have political agendas, such as promoting the use of free software. That Nokia uses our software (as is their right, according to our licenses), but then promotes non-free codecs/software, is a bit sad. Regards, Steve -- Steve Greenland The irony is that Bill Gates claims to be making a stable operating system and Linus Torvalds claims to be trying to take over the world. -- seen on the net ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org mailto:maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- Jonathan Greene +1.914.750.8740 AIM / iChat - atmasphere gtalk / jabber - [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype / Gizmo - JonathanGreene blogs - http://www.atmasphere.net/wp / http://www.maemoapps.com ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo] ??
Yep, but that's exactly what I don't want to do. I have about 60 folders with mailing lists, I would like to keep the Maemo mails in my inbox and read them there. If I put them elsewhere I won't see them in real time. The problem I have of course is distinguishing Maemo mail in my inbox from SPAM that didn't get dropped... Gary Baribault Thomas Clavier wrote: Gary Baribault a écrit : Could le mailing list administrator add 'maemo' in square braces at the beginning of the subject for the list please, or something else simmilar? with Thunderbird (you use it) you can filter all mail from maemo-user list with header field List-Id: it's a good solution to put it in particular folder. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: BBC reviews N800 with 3 other devices
The other thing, is that I couldn't get it to work until I downloaded the presets by using the tower' icon in the botom right of the applet, after that it worked great! Gary Baribault Dr. Nicholas Shaw wrote: Thanks, Brad. I'll give that a try! Nick. -Original Message- From: Brad Midgley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 1:26 PM To: Dr. Nicholas Shaw Cc: John Rudd; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; maemo-users@maemo.org Subject: Re: BBC reviews N800 with 3 other devices Nicholas Regarding music, I have never gotten the FM radio to work fyi the headphones have to be in to act as an antenna even if you're using the speakers. since I'd rather have fewer wires I've been enjoying the itech bluetooth headset with an fm radio of its own. This will be great once the bluetooth drivers are in maemo. Brad ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
GPE-Contact import
Hi guys, I have an IPAQ with about 900 contacts .. I am trying to get them to the GPE-Contact program. I created a massive vcard file, but it wont import it. I then used BT to thansfer many of them, but GPE-Contact seems to only let me import one at a time .. does anyone know how to import about 900 vcard files at one time into the program? Thanks Gary Baribault ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: 4.2007.38-2 available
I have to agree with you, I aided another poster to start thin 'whining' thread, ut it's part of the development process .. I did this flash because my machine needed a fresh start and it did wonders. I just wish the OpenSSH was working! Gary Baribault Courriel: [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG Key: 0x4346F013 GPG Fingerprint: BCE8 2E6B EB39 9B23 6904 1DF4 C4E6 2CF7 4346 F013 James Sparenberg wrote: On Wednesday 03 October 2007 08:12:02 Fred C wrote: On Tue, 02 Oct 2007 22:36:10 -0700 Thomas Leavitt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What I'm not understanding here is that the tablet is a debian Linux system, in it's essence... what's the issue with just making the updated packages available, for the power users and tweakers willing to go through the work of a manual update? What I'm not understanding is the big rush to update for a few minor fixes, especially if there's the known potential of extra user overhead getting the update and apps all sorted out. If it aint broke, ... It was broke. It tended to brick SD cards. Want some? They make fair guitar pics now. Or put another way, my Clinc's software runs over 1000 per year for updates and support. A couple month's ago the released a major update/upgrade which I've still not installed. It takes months to sort out the bugs in this sort of stuff, plus the staff has to be brought up to speed overnight. So I'm sitting back and waiting for the dust to settle so when I do the install (10 stations), it's rock solid so I don't have to hassle of training the staff how do deal with a lot of kludge workarounds to get work done, or (worse case) data crash which would caase everything to come to a halt. I'm paying decent bucks (along with 3 other clinics) for this update 'service', which I'm choosing to go slow on. Ditto for the megabuck software running my dental cad/cam system. Wow I have the luxury of running 4 data centers that I watch update themselves. Note, none of them are windows. I don't have the luxury of waiting for security updates etc. That would be for me, suicide. It's laughable that a bunch of whiner techno geeks fully expect their newly released, reasonably functional, internet tablet to be provided with instant FREE updates tto match their every whim. As far as I can tell (by clinical software standards), the OS that most of us are currently using is really a modestly stable early beta version of the final stable OS. This is linux. That's how we work, release early and often. No one is complaining about the idea of the fix. Just the way in which updates are managed. It's how we work. We not only complain we also discuss and solve. The whining you so fondly mention is for us a part of the process. Communication is the key. We're the guinea pigs of this project/product, complete with a significant segment of this user population who insist on running on their damn noisey treadmill all night, who then spend their days complaining about all the work they 'have' to do at night. It's seriously funny stuff guys... I stopped being a guinea ping in 1996 when I removed my last MS install and went Unix/Linux. I'm not at all a guinea pig now. I lost guinea pig status because I chose to be a partner in the development of the products future. I've already seen a number of changes made just because of others who chose to join in on this effort. (Note, I need to contribute more, I know). Once is a guinea pig only if you allow yourself to be experimented on. One is never the guinea pig if you are helping to run the experiment. James PS I'm finding a lot of things working much nicer in the new update beyond the documented updates. Like tabs in the browser! Then again I'm just glad I decided to wait recently. I'd done a number of fixes that I unfixed and I needed a clean install almost did it the day before the release! *whew* ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
OpenSSH
Hi all, I am trying to install OpenSSH after re-flashing the latest version of our OS. maemo.org has links to once click installs that no longer work .. Anyone have a recent link that works? I've done the google thing with no success.. Thanks Gary Baribault ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: 4.2007.38-2 available
I have a cell and have had one for a long time .. I use it to make phone calls and ignore the MP3/WEB and Camera. I also have three digital cameras I don't need another one. I have a Creative Zen M with a 30Gig drive that I'm looking forward to giving to my son when I start to use my N800 for MP3s. I didn't buy the Apple IPhone because it's closed and forces me to buy DRM laden MP3s from a snooty Apple. Sorry not interested .. I bought the N800, because it runs Linux, it's open and it's just about perfect. I bought it because I want a mobile Internet browser, with enough memory, and I wanted a WiFi XTerm portable that could play MP3s and make VoIP calls. The built in camera is a nice bonus, for chatting ... not for pictures. I'm sure that I'm not the only person who was waiting for this, I was even tempted with the IPhone, but would never have used the ITunes. Nokia is very close to perfect with this, but it is NOT a phone, it's a very small laptop or a big Palm/IPaQ .. it should be treated as such. I know that it's ressource constrained, but I would be surprised if anyone doesn't have a free 2/4 Gig external card that they would gladly insert during upgrades to give Nokia a little extra storage during upgrades if that's what they need. I'm not that pissed off, but am making a suggestion that would allow me to suggest to about 20 or 30 friends in IT that THE device is finally here. Heck, my dad is near 80, was in IT for 30 years and would love to have one for his travels rather that his Thinkpad T23, but not if he has to re-install everything every time he updates it. Gary Baribault Courriel: [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG Key: 0x4346F013 GPG Fingerprint: BCE8 2E6B EB39 9B23 6904 1DF4 C4E6 2CF7 4346 F013 Michael Wiktowy wrote: On 10/2/07, Gary Baribault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK then, can I beat up on them? I agree, this is a lousy way of doing the updates, I cannot suggest this device to anyone if every time there is an update, all applications have to be re-installed!! Why can't the update take a proper#full backup to a flash card, dump a list of applications, and after the flash, re-install the latest updated applications? It would have to be possible to overide, since some applications would need to be updated, and it should be possible to tell the device to go aheah and wipe everything out, but what where going to have here soon is many devices out of date because people don't want to go through with the update and then 2 - 4 hours of re-installs. That's not only dangerous but very lousy for the reputation of the device. This conversation has been had many times in the past and Nokia has resisted it since it complicates updates in a huge way. It is a fact that it is more difficult to do this on a resource constrained system like the Internet Tablets than on a regular desktop. Now Nokia realizes that users really really want this and are putting in the resources to make it happen according to their presentations. I suspect that we will see it in Chinook or (more likely) Diablo. However, I think people's perceptions that Nokia not offering this functionality in the first place is an outrage against Nature are born from their mistaken belief that the Internet Tablets are just a small desktop machine and have the same constraints and should behave the same way. Reality is that they are much closer to the resource constrains of a cell phone and I don't know of a single cell phone that doesn't just wipe everything that isn't on the SIM or external memory card on a firmware update ... if they offer a firmware updates at all. Just look at the iPhone firmware fiasco happening right now. The iPhone has about the same resource contraints as an N800. Apple is not even letting users *install* third party apps and are intentionally bricking them if they have hacked it open. So compared to that user-hostile treatment, living with a Nokia device is not so hard to take. All that being said, I am not sure how many apps you have but reloading my IT after a firmware update has never taken me 2-4 hours. There are things that you can do to make it much quicker. Make a backup on the external card. That will save your bookmarks, preferences ... pretty much everything except your installed apps. If you save the .install file (or the .deb file for those apps without one) each time you install an app, it is trivial to figure out what you need to install again after a firmware update. If you keep your application data on an external memory card, it will be nearly instantly accessible once you do reinstall. The data on the internal card will be instantly accessible once you restore the backup. Just a few thoughts to make your update less traumatic. /Mike ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users
Re: 4.2007.38-2 available
I'm sure that some of the N800 owners can backup/flash/restore in 20 minutes, but I would really be curious how many people take over 90 minutes. I'm near there and have only had the toy for about 20 days. By the time I'm finished customizing the application load, configurations, ssh keys, and assorted other things, I will be well over that 90 minutes, and I'm sure many other owners are even more customized! Anyone care to host a survey of all applications that we load and how much time it takes to reflash/customize/restore? (Not to mention re-test the restore!) Gary Baribault Courriel: [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG Key: 0x4346F013 GPG Fingerprint: BCE8 2E6B EB39 9B23 6904 1DF4 C4E6 2CF7 4346 F013 Jac Kersing wrote: On Tue, 2 Oct 2007, Michael Wiktowy wrote: Reality is that they are much closer to the resource constrains of a cell phone and I don't know of a single cell phone that doesn't just wipe everything that isn't on the SIM or external memory card on a firmware update ... Sorry, not true. All (recent) S60 devices are firmware upgradable, backup before, flash new firmware, restore and all applications are available. (Somehow they forget to save/restore the bluetooth pairing information, but everything works just fine) All that being said, I am not sure how many apps you have but reloading my IT after a firmware update has never taken me 2-4 hours. Having to reinstall is a pain. Enabling blue pill mode for some packages. Resetting the root password after install of sshd. It is not cool to have to do every OS upgrade. Regards, Jac --- Jac KersingTechnical Consultant The-Box Development [EMAIL PROTECTED] CISSP RHCEhttp://www.the-box.com ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: 4.2007.38-2 available
Yeah, and as I said, I just got it, I assume (yep I know .. ass of you and me) that I will get better at doing this, but it will also get more customized. So .. I don't expect my time to get better, and I wonder if Nokia could not change their priorities and give us this fuctionality earlier .. sorry guys, but I think it's important. Gary Baribault Courriel: [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG Key: 0x4346F013 GPG Fingerprint: BCE8 2E6B EB39 9B23 6904 1DF4 C4E6 2CF7 4346 F013 Thomas Leavitt wrote: Would take me at least that long... took that long when I had to re-flash my N770 after a system crash, just a few days after I bought the thing. Now? Much longer, I'm sure. Probably several hours, continuous, and then several days of fiddling and oh I forgot that, etc. Thomas Dr. Nicholas Shaw wrote: I'm 3-4 hours. Nick. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Baribault Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 3:44 PM To: Jac Kersing Cc: maemo-users@maemo.org Subject: Re: 4.2007.38-2 available I'm sure that some of the N800 owners can backup/flash/restore in 20 minutes, but I would really be curious how many people take over 90 minutes. I'm near there and have only had the toy for about 20 days. By the time I'm finished customizing the application load, configurations, ssh keys, and assorted other things, I will be well over that 90 minutes, and I'm sure many other owners are even more customized! Anyone care to host a survey of all applications that we load and how much time it takes to reflash/customize/restore? (Not to mention re-test the restore!) Gary Baribault Courriel: [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG Key: 0x4346F013 GPG Fingerprint: BCE8 2E6B EB39 9B23 6904 1DF4 C4E6 2CF7 4346 F013 Jac Kersing wrote: On Tue, 2 Oct 2007, Michael Wiktowy wrote: Reality is that they are much closer to the resource constrains of a cell phone and I don't know of a single cell phone that doesn't just wipe everything that isn't on the SIM or external memory card on a firmware update ... Sorry, not true. All (recent) S60 devices are firmware upgradable, backup before, flash new firmware, restore and all applications are available. (Somehow they forget to save/restore the bluetooth pairing information, but everything works just fine) All that being said, I am not sure how many apps you have but reloading my IT after a firmware update has never taken me 2-4 hours. Having to reinstall is a pain. Enabling blue pill mode for some packages. Resetting the root password after install of sshd. It is not cool to have to do every OS upgrade. Regards, Jac --- Jac KersingTechnical Consultant The-Box Development [EMAIL PROTECTED] CISSP RHCEhttp://www.the-box.com ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: 4.2007.38-2 available
Yep, that's exactly what I mean, some people have put down 430$ (in Canada) for a nice toy, and they can flash and restore in 20 minutes, but most people (I think, and I may be wrong) have put down 430$ for a fully customised device .. I'm not looking to be skewing information, if i'm wrong, then I'm wrong, no prob, then Nokia is right! Gary Baribault Courriel: [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG Key: 0x4346F013 GPG Fingerprint: BCE8 2E6B EB39 9B23 6904 1DF4 C4E6 2CF7 4346 F013 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm sure that some of the N800 owners can backup/flash/restore in 20 minutes, but I would really be curious how many people take over 90 minutes. If you limit your curiosity to those over 90 minutes, you'll purposefully skew the results, which really isn't appropriate. I'm a 20 minute flash and restore kind of guy, back in August when I got the unit back from warranty service due to it's brick like behavior. Most of that time was spent watching TV while the unit and laptop did their work. However, it's possible that it's easy and short for me because I've kept things relatively simple on my N800 with a couple games, Gizmo Project, Quiver photo viewer and Claws mail being just about the only additions. I've configured about 20 RSS feeds and 4 weather stations. I've tested a fair amount of other stuff from Maemo, but then when I find it of limited value or unfunctional, I remove it to keep the clutter down. It seems to speed boot up keeping things simple. I gather it may also help the restore process... I guess the fine print is I've only recently started messing around getting Claws Mail up to full speed with filters and stuff, so it might be possible that I might have to spend some time fussing with restoring some Claws settings there from a restore, but then again, perhaps not. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: 4.2007.38-2 available
Hey Mike, I think most people who are minimalists would not get involved in a Linux device, they would have gone for the IPhone. Sure there will be some of them who purchase a 400$+ device for minimal functionality, but, and I may be mistaken, the red wine is getting to me here, most of us have purchased this N800 for the power features, I have a Debian based device with BT and WiFi and 2 SD slots!!! YEAH As I said, the wine could be getting to me here in Montreal, but THAT'S why I bought this toy, and that translates to 90 minutes plus if I have to reconfigure it at each flash!! And I repeat, Nokia, I'm not bitching, thatks for the great toy, it's already making my life much better, but please re-arange your priorities to give us this feature before others. Gary Baribault Courriel: [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG Key: 0x4346F013 GPG Fingerprint: BCE8 2E6B EB39 9B23 6904 1DF4 C4E6 2CF7 4346 F013 Mike Klein wrote: These #s mean nothing without taking into account target user as you mention. Do Nothing: This person buys device, installs a few apps and nothing else. (TARGET AUDIENCE) Minimal: These users install bunches of apps, certificates, pgp keys (SECONDARY) Maxmimum: Power Users/Devt who fully tweak device, custom drivers, conf edits, perhaps beyond restore-ability So for primary audience...what is prob' 30min. reinstall time isn't too bad. mike Gary Baribault wrote: Yep, that's exactly what I mean, some people have put down 430$ (in Canada) for a nice toy, and they can flash and restore in 20 minutes, but most people (I think, and I may be wrong) have put down 430$ for a fully customised device .. I'm not looking to be skewing information, if i'm wrong, then I'm wrong, no prob, then Nokia is right! Gary Baribault Courriel: [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG Key: 0x4346F013 GPG Fingerprint: BCE8 2E6B EB39 9B23 6904 1DF4 C4E6 2CF7 4346 F013 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm sure that some of the N800 owners can backup/flash/restore in 20 minutes, but I would really be curious how many people take over 90 minutes. If you limit your curiosity to those over 90 minutes, you'll purposefully skew the results, which really isn't appropriate. I'm a 20 minute flash and restore kind of guy, back in August when I got the unit back from warranty service due to it's brick like behavior. Most of that time was spent watching TV while the unit and laptop did their work. However, it's possible that it's easy and short for me because I've kept things relatively simple on my N800 with a couple games, Gizmo Project, Quiver photo viewer and Claws mail being just about the only additions. I've configured about 20 RSS feeds and 4 weather stations. I've tested a fair amount of other stuff from Maemo, but then when I find it of limited value or unfunctional, I remove it to keep the clutter down. It seems to speed boot up keeping things simple. I gather it may also help the restore process... I guess the fine print is I've only recently started messing around getting Claws Mail up to full speed with filters and stuff, so it might be possible that I might have to spend some time fussing with restoring some Claws settings there from a restore, but then again, perhaps not. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: gpe-calendar sounds!!!
Well folks, things did not quite go off as planned... I have the latest OS immage, 2007, version 4.2007.26.8, and other than the base library (Nokia catalog) I also have GPE Stable .. when I install gpe-contacts and gpe-calendar, I get messages saying that installation failed. The software IS installed, and mostly working, but contacts fails to import basic vcards that are imported by the built in contact manager and the calendar freezes, fails (aborts) and does not reliably have an audible alarm. I don't normaly sign EMails with my certs, because I find that obnoxious, but I would like everyone to understand that I'm not a rank amateur! I know SuSE and Red hat real well and have been in the industry for 32 yeard ( Yep, I'm old!) Gary Baribault CISSP, RHCE, CCNP, MCSE Consultant en sécurité informatique / Computer security consultant Gary Baribault inc.ourriel: [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG Key: 0xEF3EBD1C GPG Fingerprint: 5B1F 899B 4A7C A586 8388 6AFD 796B E68D EF3E 8D1C Ryan Pavlik wrote: Use a newer version - 2.8 and newer have sounds. (You do have to leave GPE Calendar running.) Make sure you're using the cobb.uk.net version - http://linuxtogo.org/~florian/maemo/ - follow the instructions at http://cleardefinition.com/page/Sync_Evolution_and_GPE_on_N800/ Ryan Lars Persson Fink wrote: Gary, There is a bug #39 for this over at gpe.linuxtogo.org. I have no idea what the current status is. Regards, Lars Persson Fink On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 19:04:29 -0400 Gary Baribault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey guys, I have been at Linux since 1998, but have worked RedHat and SuSE, this is my first shot at Debian. I have an IPaq, and laptop, and MP3 (Creative), but I would love to replace all that with the N800. I bought one three weeks ago and just love it. I'm quite hopefull that the ca-100 will soon be available in Canada. I would love if the GPE-Calendar would scream(make a sound) when an alarm was due .. is that possible? This is the last thing keeping the other devices in my laptop bag!! Thanks Gary B ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
gpe-calendar sounds!!!
Hey guys, I have been at Linux since 1998, but have worked RedHat and SuSE, this is my first shot at Debian. I have an IPaq, and laptop, and MP3 (Creative), but I would love to replace all that with the N800. I bought one three weeks ago and just love it. I'm quite hopefull that the ca-100 will soon be available in Canada. I would love if the GPE-Calendar would scream(make a sound) when an alarm was due .. is that possible? This is the last thing keeping the other devices in my laptop bag!! Thanks Gary B ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
